Justice for Ahmaud Arbery: The GOP lost 3 very fine people today to life in prison. Sad!

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The ONLY acceptable time to use deadly force against anyone is if they are perusing you, attacking you or you see them in the act of attacking/brutalizing another human being.

Outside of that our taxes pay police for a reason and we need to let them handle business.

"Citizens arrest" is fucking stupid. Irresponsible. It gets people killed unessesarily.

None of us have anyway of knowing why we would be persued or "detained" by some rando fucktard trying a "citizens arrest". I would be TERRIFIED. I can only imagine how poor Arbery felt with these strange ass men running him down with guns. NO SHIT he attacked.

Who the fuck wouldnt? I know I would because I'd believe I was gonna die anyway and I wouldnt have let them take me ANYWHERE. Any ever tries to detain me? I'm gonna fight like hell and theyll have to kill me right there.

It's always so much worse of a death if you go with them. That's where my mind would be.
 

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Here's just a part of his criminal record. The one at the bottom was a felony (Obstructing law enforcement using threats or violence):


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Here's just a part of his criminal record. The one at the bottom was a felony:


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Yanno I DO remember hearing about the weapons charge.

To be honest I didnt really look into it, because I found irrelevant to the case.

He probably was looking to commit some petty theft. He wasnt any active threat though. Those men though.....gotdamn lol. They belong in prison.
 

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It doesn't say if he was convicted...see on misdemeanor and another that might say felony, but not entirely clear...
Bottom one is a felony (Obstructing law enforcement using threats or violence).

He had to have been found guilty, as the judge specifically excluded his record from being introduced into the trial. He was also on parole, and you don't end up on parole if you're found not guilty...
 

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It doesn't say if he was convicted...see on misdemeanor and another that might say felony, but not entirely clear...
Bottom one is a felony (Obstructing law enforcement using threats or violence).

He had to have been found guilty, as the judge specifically excluded his record from being introduced into the trial. He was also on parole, and you don't end up on parole if you're found not guilty...

It says bond posted. He has a history, regardless of convictions.

The fact remains that he was murdered.
 

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Yanno I DO remember hearing about the weapons charge.

To be honest I didnt really look into it, because I found irrelevant to the case.

He probably was looking to commit some petty theft. He wasnt any active threat though. Those men though.....gotdamn lol. They belong in prison.
You may think that carrying a gun onto school grounds is petty, but I consider it a pretty serious crime, considering Armed Robbery was a no good thug to begin with.
 

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It says bond posted. He has a history, regardless of convictions.

The fact remains that he was murdered.
I don't disagree.

I just don't like seeing you Americans prop some nigger up onto a pedestal like he's fucking Jesus or something (which you Americans always do with niggers), when in reality he was a drug dealing, thugging, thieving piece of shit...
 

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It says bond posted. He has a history, regardless of convictions.

The fact remains that he was murdered.
I don't disagree.

I just don't like seeing you Americans prop some nigger up onto a pedestal like he's fucking Jesus or something (which you Americans always do with niggers), when in reality he was a drug dealing, thugging, thieving piece of shit...

Only low rent trash say "nigger" for your information.
 

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No. I don't expect anything from bigots like you.
Here's the thing... I used to be less bigoted at one time many years ago, but then things started to change all around me. I was slowly expected to stomach more and more bullshit.

I wasn't hired for a job simply because I'm a straight White male. I have to now accept homosexuals doing their thing in public. I have to now learn and remember 30 different god damn genders, and fear the public backlash should I misidentify you. I have to personally feel bad about the bad things I did to Native Injuns only because I'm White, and not because I actually ever did anything bad to Injuns. Every fucking ad I watch has to be filled with biracial families, with at least one nigger. It's best if they cast gay niggers though, because it's just the thing to be I guess...

I am a product of my environment... An environment that's quickly resembling Weimar 2.0... Clown world. And there are many more out there like me... HONK HONK!
 

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No. I don't expect anything from bigots like you.
Here's the thing... I used to be less bigoted at one time many years ago, but then things started to change all around me. I was slowly expected to stomach more and more bullshit.

I wasn't hired for a job simply because I'm a straight White male. I have to now accept homosexuals doing their thing in public. I have to now learn and remember 30 different god damn genders, and fear the public backlash should I misidentify you. I have to personally feel bad about the bad things I did to Native Injuns only because I'm White, and not because I actually ever did anything bad to Injuns. Every fucking ad I watch has to be filled with biracial families, with at least one nigger. It's best if they cast gay niggers though, because it's just the thing to be I guess...

I am a product of my environment... An environment that's quickly resembling Weimar 2.0... Clown world. And there are many more out there like me... HONK HONK!

I haven't ever seen homosexuals do their thing in public and I live in the SF Bay Area. I suggest you stop watching gay porn. I have yet to use "new" pronouns.

What you're uncomfortable with seems to be anyone non-white, non-straight having a voice in society. That's your actual problem.

Get the fuck over yourself. It's a big world out there and it's not just for you.
 

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Yanno I DO remember hearing about the weapons charge.

To be honest I didnt really look into it, because I found irrelevant to the case.

He probably was looking to commit some petty theft. He wasnt any active threat though. Those men though.....gotdamn lol. They belong in prison.
You may think that carrying a gun onto school grounds is petty, but I consider it a pretty serious crime, considering Armed Robbery was a no good thug to begin with.

No, that's not what I said

I meant this particular incident where he was chased. That was just petty at best.

Taking a gun onto school property is another issue entirely. It just isnt a factor in THIS case.

It does show he has a history of threatening behavior. Though here.....anyone would have fought people who were chasing them.
 
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He had prior felonies?
Yup! Your media does a really good job of distorting the truth when it comes to black crime, but the truth can be found if one looks...
How much American medias do you consume in a day?

I mostly stay away from most media and I always vet what I do read.

American media is garbage. Its hate mongering lies most of the time, sadly.
 

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He had prior felonies?
Yup! Your media does a really good job of distorting the truth when it comes to black crime, but the truth can be found if one looks...
How much American medias do you consume in a day?

I'm guessing he watches a lot of youtubes...cause FACTS.
The stoopidity in Merica seems to be on the verge of spiraling out of control


It's too late. I really believe that. We're going down.
 
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Yanno I DO remember hearing about the weapons charge.

To be honest I didnt really look into it, because I found irrelevant to the case.

He probably was looking to commit some petty theft. He wasnt any active threat though. Those men though.....gotdamn lol. They belong in prison.
You may think that carrying a gun onto school grounds is petty, but I consider it a pretty serious crime, considering Armed Robbery was a no good thug to begin with.

No, that's not what I said

I meant this particular incident where he was chased. That was just petty at best.

Taking a gun onto school property is another issue entirely. It just isnt a factor in THIS case.

It does show he has a history of threatening behavior. Though here.....anyone would have fought people who were chasing them.
Yeah exactly, just like those 3 dudes in Kenosha!
 

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Yanno I DO remember hearing about the weapons charge.

To be honest I didnt really look into it, because I found irrelevant to the case.

He probably was looking to commit some petty theft. He wasnt any active threat though. Those men though.....gotdamn lol. They belong in prison.
You may think that carrying a gun onto school grounds is petty, but I consider it a pretty serious crime, considering Armed Robbery was a no good thug to begin with.

No, that's not what I said

I meant this particular incident where he was chased. That was just petty at best.

Taking a gun onto school property is another issue entirely. It just isnt a factor in THIS case.

It does show he has a history of threatening behavior. Though here.....anyone would have fought people who were chasing them.
Yeah exactly, just like those 3 dudes in Kenosha!

No.

Those three dudes in Kenosha were the equivalent of the men who chased Arbery.

If THOSE men(who chased Arbery) had violent criminal histories and were participating in a riot when they targeted a person to chase him down and attack him like they did to Arbery, it WOULD be relevant.

The men who shot Arbery were the perps... just like the men who attacked Kyle.

Kyle and Arbery have that in common. They were chased and attacked by random men.

You arent seeing parallels correctly because your political biases are involved.
 
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He had prior felonies?
Yup! Your media does a really good job of distorting the truth when it comes to black crime, but the truth can be found if one looks...
How much American medias do you consume in a day?

I mostly stay away from most media and I always vet what I do read.

American media is garbage. Its hate mongering lies most of the time, sadly.
Actual News, not so much, the talking head pundits, your Hannity's your Tuckers and Bonginos you know the fear and angry mongers. If I was the King guys like that would have their wings clipped.
 

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He had prior felonies?
Yup! Your media does a really good job of distorting the truth when it comes to black crime, but the truth can be found if one looks...
How much American medias do you consume in a day?

I mostly stay away from most media and I always vet what I do read.

American media is garbage. Its hate mongering lies most of the time, sadly.
Actual News, not so much, the talking head pundits, your Hannity's your Tuckers and Bonginos you know the fear and angry mongers. If I was the King guys like that would have their wings clipped.

No....Admin. They happen to agree with me on this. I'm not agreeing with them. And if they said anything different I would have no issue disagreeing.

I actually dont even watch most of that outside an occasional Tucker show. I like how Tucker is fair and will talk to anyone and LET them talk. I really disagree they are fear and hate mongers....I dont see that at all. At least not with Tucker.

Forget all the politcs and look at this situation.

BOTH Kyle and Arbery were CHASED and attacked by strange men. The reasons dont matter .....because neither Kyle or Arbery were actively harming or perusing anyone. THEY were BOTH persued themselves.

BOTH had a right to defend themselves.

Both sets of strange men who did the chasing were in the WRONG. That's why Kyle isnt in prison and why Arberys killers ARE in prison.

See what I'm saying?
 

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I haven't ever seen homosexuals do their thing in public and I live in the SF Bay Area. I suggest you stop watching gay porn. I have yet to use "new" pronouns.

What you're uncomfortable with seems to be anyone non-white, non-straight having a voice in society. That's your actual problem.

Get the fuck over yourself. It's a big world out there and it's not just for you.
I'm resistant to change, and that's because almost all change has been for the worse.

And I'm not resistant to people having a voice. I'm resistant to the ultra-left trying to drown out the voice of others, which they actively try to do on a regular basis.

It's always the ultra-left screeching and crying when things don't go their way, or somebody says or does something that they don't like.
 

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I haven't ever seen homosexuals do their thing in public and I live in the SF Bay Area. I suggest you stop watching gay porn. I have yet to use "new" pronouns.

What you're uncomfortable with seems to be anyone non-white, non-straight having a voice in society. That's your actual problem.

Get the fuck over yourself. It's a big world out there and it's not just for you.
I'm resistant to change, and that's because almost all change has been for the worse.

And I'm not resistant to people having a voice. I'm resistant to the ultra-left trying to drown out the voice of others, which they actively try to do on a regular basis.

It's always the ultra-left screeching and crying when things don't go their way, or somebody says or does something that they don't like.

You're not drowned out. What an exaggeration. What is happening is that our generation's time in the sun is OUT. The younger folks are changing the world to suit them. I don't like all of it either, but I'm aware of what's actually happening. The only thing that is constant is change.
 

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You're not drowned out. What an exaggeration. What is happening is that our generation's time in the sun is OUT. The younger folks are changing the world to suit them. I don't like all of it either, but I'm aware of what's actually happening. The only thing that is constant is change.
I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean that I will willingly accept this change. If some dude throws on a cheap wig and calls himself a lady, I know society expects me to accept him as a lady... But he is NOT a lady! He's a dude! He's got a hairy cock & balls, but yet he's a lady? Hell no! He's a dude, no matter what he or society claims he is!