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…Trump is defying SCOTUS, will the United States Marshal Service as provided in the constitution, arrest and detain anyone who stands against their judgement, and who they deem legally culpable? Is this the beginning of your next civil war?

Is this a constitutional crisis, as Trump is the only convicted felon, 11 time bankrupt, civil court rapist and general all round fucktot to ever inhabit the Oval Office?

Discuss, if you honestly think you can!
 

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…Trump is defying SCOTUS, will the United States Marshal Service as provided in the constitution, arrest and detain anyone who stands against their judgement, and who they deem legally culpable? Is this the beginning of your next civil war?

Is this a constitutional crisis, as Trump is the only convicted felon, 11 time bankrupt, civil court rapist and general all round fucktot to ever inhabit the Oval Office?

Discuss, if you honestly think you can!

Who does the US Marshall service answer to, Blandy? The Executive Branch.

I said this was going to happen months ago. We are finished.
 
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You are finished, and I hate to say it, I said it long before here. You are living in a dictatorship now.

However there are just as many now changing their opinion, and as Bernie says at a recent rally with AOC, you are the 99%, they are the 1%.
 

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Qualification, the US marshals are not an adjunct of executive orders, but of those issued by the court.
The Court has no teeth. Decisions have been complied with out of respect for the Constitution. They can ask US Marshall's office to pick an official up for contempt of court and Trump can order them to stand down. He will.

TrumpCo does not respect the Constitution.
 
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The Court has no teeth. Decisions have been cimplied with out of respect for the Constitution. They can ask US Marshall's office to pick an official up for contempt of court and Trump can order them to stand down. He will.

TrumpCo does not respect the Constitution.
Ergo, the constitutional crisis.
 
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Worry not, I am sure once they arrest Stephen Colbert, Bill Burr and Jimmy Kimmel live on TV, there might be an uproar for a couple of days.

Trump is the greatest political manoeuvrer in modern political history, and all he had to do was deny he had any knowledge of Project 2025.
 
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Next stop El Salvador, for all black Americans who whine, white murderers and Democratic congresspeople with tattoos, or the letters a o and c in their name.
 
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And Garretty had the fucking audacity to say that we were all just hperbolic when discussing the invasion of Greenland and parts of Canada!
 

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And Garretty had the fucking audacity to say that we were all just hperbolic when discussing the invasion of Greenland and parts of Canada!


Unfortunately, G is too caught up in the hatred of the Democratic party to see just how insane this all is. He cannot see the forest for the Democratic tree.

He'd much rather play footsie with the forum's purveyors of bullshit.
 
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Unfortunately, G is too caught up in the hatred of the Democratic party to see just how insane this all is. He cannot see the forst for the Democratic tree.
He also talks utter shite and sniffs his 7 day evangelical underwear to at least attempt to discern, if it is clean.
 
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Politically engrained opinions can only be challenged by the ramification of those opinions. It takes a personal cost, to change the accosting of everything out-with your control.
 

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When I said he would never meaningfully vote again, he said he did not vote. He will fucking rue that day!
I thought he said he wrote in candidates or maybe he said he voted for Stein. Perhaps he's done one or the other in elections.

What I find in him is his failure to see Trump for how terrible he really is. Yes, worse than Biden.

Palestine is also gone, Trump put the nail in that coffin. Trump and Kushner want to develop the coast afterall.
 

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Gar will learn, as you all will be forced too.
Yes. We are going to go through a dark period. We are done as a superpower, perhaps this is for the best. We've been pretty damned destructive. And for what? We haven't won any of the damn wars we started. So many Americans lost for about 70 years of superpower status.

And Americans have lost the middle class altogether. We really are a country of have and have nots. This is what our fellow Americans have fallen for...oblivion.
 

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Unfortunately, G is too caught up in the hatred of the Democratic party to see just how insane this all is. He cannot see the forest for the Democratic tree.

He'd much rather play footsie with the forum's purveyors of bullshit.

I'd like to remind you it was Obama who suspended habeus corpus and failed to roll back any of Bush's absurd "Patriot Act" nonsense; in fact he instituted a drone murder program that killed mostly civilians and even 'Murican citizens. Biden tried to set up a 'Ministry of Truth' to monitor (and no doubt take actions to "combat") online "mis/disinformation" and only scrapped it when the director was exposed as a nutjob and public outcry was impossible to ignore.

And that's just off the top of my head.

They're all culpable and complicit and pretending everything will be just fine once The Orange Menace is gone only proves adherents to that view are blinkered imbeciles.

You're so obsessed with dethroning one symptom of our government's rot you're sprinting straight into the arms of another.

You can go ahead and hate me because I'm right; I expect nothing less from blinkered imbeciles.
 

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I'd like to remind you it was Obama who suspended habeus corpus and failed to roll back any of Bush's absurd "Patriot Act" nonsense; in fact he instituted a drone murder program that killed mostly civilians and even 'Murican citizens. Biden tried to set up a 'Ministry of Truth' to monitor (and no doubt take actions to "combat") online "mis/disinformation" and only scrapped it when the director was exposed as a nutjob and public outcry was impossible to ignore.

And that's just off the top of my head.

They're all culpable and complicit and pretending everything will be just fine once The Orange Menace is gone only proves adherents to that view are blinkered imbeciles.

You're so obsessed with dethroning one symptom of our government's rot you're sprinting straight into the arms of another.

You can go ahead and hate me because I'm right; I expect nothing less from blinkered imbeciles.


Look, if nothing else, get this straight once and for all, and stop projecting your feelings onto me, I do not hate you. I actually don't hate anyone here. Though, I do dislike some.

You don't even make that list because the diagreements we have are political in nature, at least to me. I have vehement political disagreements with the person I live with. We have passionate, and sometimes even loud disagreements, but they don't become personal. And he and I disagree more than you and I.

We both come from academic backgrounds where debate was not only common, but encouraged. At the end of the day, I can see the humanity in my opponent. I was a poli sci undergrad and would get into discussions with the president of the College Republicans on campus. I still remember Nelson. After class we'd walk out and chat about our writing assignments and/or midterms or finals as the situation merited. We were friendly. I've seen politics the same way and political oppenents the same way since I was that 18 year old girl. It's been 40 years. I'm not changing.


Disagreeing with someone does not mean I hate. Not in my head nor in my heart. You can keep saying that over and over, it doesn't make it so.

As for Obama, I already said that I didn't vote for him in 2012 after I witnessed the decisions he made in his first term.
 

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Hate, disdain, whatever.
Toe-may-toe toe-mah-toe.

You think I'm wrong for "playing footsie" with conservatives and they think I'm wrong for "playing footsie" with liberals. Both of those camps are blinkered imbeciles, just for different reasons.

If I only ever "played footsie" with people who AREN'T blinkered imbeciles I'd be one lonely sumbitch.

This is why I generally leave the political discussions for you lot to spit and scream at each other because as far as I can tell you're both off your nuts and arguing over whether to drink bleach or hydrogen peroxide.

I'll stick to coffee thanks anyway.
 

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Hate, disdain, whatever.
Toe-may-toe toe-mah-toe.

You think I'm wrong for "playing footsie" with conservatives and they think I'm wrong for "playing footsie" with liberals. Both of those camps are blinkered imbeciles, just for different reasons.

If I only ever "played footsie" with people who AREN'T blinkered imbeciles I'd be one lonely sumbitch.

This is why I generally leave the political discussions for you lot to spit and scream at each other because as far as I can tell you're both off your nuts and arguing over whether to drink bleach or hydrogen peroxide.

I'll stick to coffee thanks
You're still wrong.

The playing footsie isn't about their politics. It's about their meanness. They are mean because of our politics and they make it about appearance or "sexuality"...eyeroll.

I'll give one example about how nasty they are. @LotusBud pretty much stays out of meltdown..about 98% of the time. She is excoriated for her politics and has been chopped as a witch, called a cunt and twat. I see it all the time.

You're damned if you do and you're damned if you dont. She doesn't, I do. It's they that can't handle politics and allow it to become personal.

That's who you play footsie with. I said it. You're free to do it. Just don't pretend you don't.

You can't admit that you just might be mistaken in your views. That's why you haven't been effective in changing hearts or minds.

You insist on telling people what they feel, ffs. How arrogant!
 

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You can't admit that you just might be mistaken in your views. That's why you haven't been effective in changing hearts or minds.

I haven't been proven wrong yet.
In fact everything I've predicted for decades is happening now and it fucking sucks.

It's neither my responsibility nor my "mission" to change hearts and minds. You lot will have to figure this shit out for yourselves just like the rest of us. Thinking you need a "savior" or a "guru" to put you on the right path is a problem, not a virtue. But that's also one of those things you need to figure out for yourself I reckon. Good luck with that.

And you *really* don't want to go down the path of trying to criticize someone for telling folks what they think, believe, or feel. Projection thy name is Lily, gaslights are a terrible source of illumination, and hypocrisy is a stinky perfume.

Just sayin'.

I'm bored now... carry on being nasty among yourselves.

Sayonara!
 

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I haven't been proven wrong yet.
In fact everything I've predicted for decades is happening now and it fucking sucks.

It's neither my responsibility nor my "mission" to change hearts and minds. You lot will have to figure this shit out for yourselves just like the rest of us. Thinking you need a "savior" or a "guru" to put you on the right path is a problem, not a virtue. But that's also one of those things you need to figure out for yourself I reckon. Good luck with that.

And you *really* don't want to go down the path of trying to criticize someone for telling folks what they think, believe, or feel. Projection thy name is Lily, gaslights are a terrible source of illumination, and hypocrisy is a stinky perfume.

Just sayin'.

I'm bored now... carry on being nasty among yourselves.

Sayonara!
I was referring to your views on people, not policies.
 

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…Trump is defying SCOTUS, will the United States Marshal Service as provided in the constitution, arrest and detain anyone who stands against their judgement, and who they deem legally culpable? Is this the beginning of your next civil war?

Is this a constitutional crisis, as Trump is the only convicted felon, 11 time bankrupt, civil court rapist and general all round fucktot to ever inhabit the Oval Office?

Discuss, if you honestly think you can!
Well, they should do the right thing and arrest the MF, but everyone is protecting their financial and power interests, so not many are willing to do the right thing these days. It's a very tangled corporate web these DC grifters have woven around themselves.