Raise minimum wage

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Nice rant, Joe. :AttaBoi:
Well @Reggie_Essent look at the level of drug addiction in the USA, Canada & many other countries. Social media AI feed those habits. Unlike her hero Trump I'd argue that fentynal is only a symptom not the cause. As people got addicted more to these electronic mediums they have gotten more addicted to drugs too.
 

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Thing is these businesses introduce automation reduce their workforce save money that way but they don't pass the savings on to you. So you'll still be paying $15 US for that Big Mac, $5 for a bag of fries. Yer getting the same crappy food thi. So McDonald's or some other fast food outlet increases their profits, food prices but you the consumer doesnt get the benefit. Great for the CEOs & their shareholders but nada fer you @Reggie_Essent
Well, Joe, I don't have to eat there, do I?

Why do you assume that if a business automates and increases profits that you, personally, deserve to have any benefit at all passed on to you?

I've been talking about Envy for the past few days, and how envy is the most base appeal of vile Leftist political ideology.

There's a reason Envy is a Sin, Joe. It rots and corrodes the soul, tinges thoughts with jealous imaginings and makes people become bitter and resentful.

This is why most Leftists are bitter and resentful people.
 
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Raise minimum wage, why fucking bother? All that happens is the price of goods and services increases to balance the loss of profit which ZOG-Corp sustains.

A debt-free monetary system is what's needed, but that would mean doing a Hitler and freezing out the central banksters, which of course is never gonna happen without another world war and subsequent regime change.
 

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Raise minimum wage, why fucking bother? All that happens is the price of goods and services increases to balance the loss of profit which ZOG-Corp sustains.

A debt-free monetary system is what's needed, but that would mean doing a Hitler and freezing out the central banksters, which of course is never gonna happen without another world war and subsequent regime change.
We're approaching that situation again @Adam Hitler.

Only this time 'the Nazis' are BRICS.China/Fussia & the one trying to hold onto the Old World Order is the United States & Trump.

Who do you think is gonna win, Adam/Scouse?
 

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We're approaching that situation again @Adam Hitler.

Only this time 'the Nazis' are BRICS.China/Fussia & the one trying to hold onto the Old World Order is the United States & Trump.

Who do you think is gonna win, Adam/Scouse?
Not a clue, but western jews would love to conscript Whites into a war against Russia. The problem they have though is young White men are so thoroughly demoralised due to being browbeaten constantly with woke, feminist garbage, that they have zero interest in fighting a war for rich globalists and a society which they've been taught hates them.
 

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Not a clue, but western jews would love to conscript Whites into a war against Russia. The problem they have though is young White men are so thoroughly demoralised due to being browbeaten constantly with woke, feminist garbage, that they have zero interest in fighting a war for rich globalists and a society which they've been taught hates them.
At least the Poles are willing to fight Russia @Adam Hitler

Poland is pouring billions into National Defense.

 

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Well, Joe, I don't have to eat there, do I?

Why do you assume that if a business automates and increases profits that you, personally, deserve to have any benefit at all passed on to you?
Actually @Reggie_Essent , there is one business I buy from & 1 product I buy in particular where this holds true.

7-11. They have these self-serve espresso machines that charge 1/2 or 1/3 the price of many coffee shops, even Starbucks.

I always get these espresso drinks for about $1.50 at 7/11that are normall $3-4 at Starbucks.

So at least 7-11 appears to pass some of their savings on to the customer for virtually the same product that Starbucks does for much less. I know McDonald's uses the same coffee machines and yet they charge 1/3 more.

I dunno about you, but espresso coffee is pretty much the same, wherever you buy it.

Unless you go to some high end espresso joint to get imported coffee, fresh beans, freshly roasted and made right on the spot.

They gotta fryer, fire oven for the coffee beans, the whole nine yards that blows somethin' like Starbucks outta the water.

As far as quality goes, Starbucks is pretty average tho it charges very high prices.

I've even seen ratings for Starbucks and they come out pretty mediocre. They're not bad, but they're not great either. So in reality there isn't much separating them from a McCafe or 7/11 coffee, eh?
 
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Do you ever leave your home?

16 & 17 year olds? What year are you stuck in?
Who else gets entry level jobs for minimum wage? A full adult down on his or her luck might take one to see them through, but if they stay at that level for any length of time then they're either loser fucks or really, really unlucky as fuck.
 

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a lot of the fast food places laid off a bunch of kids and put in those electronic self-serve ordering portals.

The self-serve ordering portals are a good idea and should be made available for those customers who want to use them. Just like the self-checkouts in grocery stores, but without the added likelihood of theft.
 

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Well @Reggie_Essent look at the level of drug addiction in the USA, Canada & many other countries. Social media AI feed those habits. Unlike her hero Trump I'd argue that fentynal is only a symptom not the cause. As people got addicted more to these electronic mediums they have gotten more addicted to drugs too.

Yeah, it is a amazing when you talk to the addicts on the street they often say "Man, it started with Google searches, then it progressed to oxy and then fentanyl."
 

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Companies should be looking at ways of doing more with less, not less or the same with more.
I already stated ‘or retain existing workers’ Lex @The Prowler - which would fit your narrative. Meaning get more done with the existing workforce.

But I also agree with each increase in the minimum wage the employer should receive a tax credit/break to offset the cost.

I see a flaw in expecting the employer to absorb the entire wage increase - their revenues may not be increasing while their costs are. The government cant expect the employer to stay in business if they dont get a break themselves.
 
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I would say call your Congress people instead of upvoting my post. Or do both.
Fantastic idea, that way even fewer people will get hired.

The more you raise the minimum wage, the more shit costs, too. Always a bonus.
 

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I already stated ‘or retain existing workers’ Lex @The Prowler - which would fit your narrative. Meaning get more done with the existing workforce.

Wrong. Generally, existing companies do not need to "get more done".

North America needs to expand into sectors that it has abandoned in the past.

You are just so clued-out like most people, Senile @Joe.

Generally,

A) producing a product with the smallest workforce possible while not sacrificing quality is a good thing
B) providing a service with the smallest workforce possible while not sacrificing customer satisfaction is a good thing


Quit worrying about unemployment, you idiot. Providing products and services and still having a bunch of people unemployed is a good thing. It means there are extra resources; in this case, human resources.

It means there is opportunity to create more services that are life enhancing.

You people who worry "The robots are going to take all the shitty jobs!!!!" are fuckin' short-sighted idiots.
 

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You have real difficulty with simple logic, don't you?
No. I don't. But you have a complete incapacity to look at results and be honest about what they mean. Employers don't just conjure pay out of thin air, and if you make being in business unprofitable -- or worse, completely impractical -- they'll go out of business.

In short, raising the minimum wage has been making, and will continue to make, shit worse for employees, not better.

And that's a basic piece of logic you evidently can't wrap your head around.
 
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Fantastic idea, that way even fewer people will get hired.

The more you raise the minimum wage, the more shit costs, too. Always a bonus.
Yeah that's true. Prices go up after MW goes up. I've seen it where I live.

Same time if workers are paid too little they starve along with those they are trying to support.

So there has to be a balance to provide a better living wage but at the same time to avoid impacting the employers bottom line so they'll keep hiring and retaining workers. A tax break for every mw increase might incentivize this.