The ocean ports are seeing a steep decline in freight traffic, this is how store shelves become empty.

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The American people voted for retarded foreign policy.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Cool. With fewer cheap Chink products flooding our shelves, American enterprises with ramp up manufacturing here to fill the market need.

Maybe Admin's hobo friends will finally be able to find jobs instead of loitering on the beach all day cruising the public toilets for chance anonymous gay encounters.

 

[Admin.]

Cool. With fewer cheap Chink products flooding our shelves, American enterprises with ramp up manufacturing here to fill the market need.

Maybe Admin's hobo friends will finally be able to find jobs instead of loitering on the beach all day cruising the public toilets for chance anonymous gay encounters.

We get it, you’re severely handicapped mentally. You can stop bragging about it.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

We get it, you’re severely handicapped mentally. You can stop bragging about it.

"Logistics experts are warning that cargo volumes at U.S. ports are undergoing a precipitous drop. This trend is most apparent in Los Angeles, home to the nation’s busiest port, and one that is first to feel any drop-off from Asian shipping. The drop in container shipping is the latest sign the White House’s trade war is having a real effect on the U.S. economy, and one sizable group of workers is poised to feel the impact first: long-haul truckers."

I thought you soy-sipping Proggie fairies hated long-haul truckers? Now you're all worried about them because Trump?

 

[Seamajor]

"Logistics experts are warning that cargo volumes at U.S. ports are undergoing a precipitous drop. This trend is most apparent in Los Angeles, home to the nation’s busiest port, and one that is first to feel any drop-off from Asian shipping. The drop in container shipping is the latest sign the White House’s trade war is having a real effect on the U.S. economy, and one sizable group of workers is poised to feel the impact first: long-haul truckers."

I thought you soy-sipping Proggie fairies hated long-haul truckers? Now you're all worried about them because Trump?

Trump is why you sleep in a box

 

[Admin.]

"Logistics experts are warning that cargo volumes at U.S. ports are undergoing a precipitous drop. This trend is most apparent in Los Angeles, home to the nation’s busiest port, and one that is first to feel any drop-off from Asian shipping. The drop in container shipping is the latest sign the White House’s trade war is having a real effect on the U.S. economy, and one sizable group of workers is poised to feel the impact first: long-haul truckers."

I thought you soy-sipping Proggie fairies hated long-haul truckers? Now you're all worried about them because Trump?

 

[Admin.]

The United States imports a wide variety of food items from China, with fruits and vegetables (fresh and processed), snack foods, spices, and tea being major categories. Specific examples include apple juice, garlic, canned mandarin oranges, fish, and shrimp.


“I don’t understand that we live in a global society and goods and services are traded worldwide” stupid fucks a la Ragey

 

[Reggie_Essent]

The United States imports a wide variety of food items from China, with fruits and vegetables (fresh and processed), snack foods, spices, and tea being major categories. Specific examples include apple juice, garlic, canned mandarin oranges, fish, and shrimp.


“I don’t understand that we live in a global society and goods and services are traded worldwide” stupid fucks a la Ragey

We don't live in a global society, we live on a globe of nations. I put my nation first. You don't.

 

[Admin.]

The United States imports a wide range of technology from China, including electronics like smartphones, laptops, and video game consoles, as well as components for various tech products. China is a major supplier of these goods, with 78% of US smartphone imports coming from China in 2023. Other significant imports include batteries, electrical machinery, and equipment.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Electronics:
  Smartphones, laptops, and tablets are major imports, with a significant portion being assembled in China for US-based companies like Apple.
  
  
• Components:
  China also supplies crucial components like batteries, chips, and other electronic parts used in various tech devices, including those made by Apple.
  
  
• Electrical Machinery and Equipment:
  This category includes a wide range of items like generators, motors, and parts for various applications.
  
  
• Video Game Consoles:
  China is a major supplier of video game consoles to the US.
  
  
• Other Tech-Related Products:
  This includes items like monitors, radio reception apparatus, and various electrical parts.
  

Impact of Tariffs:
US tariffs on Chinese imports, particularly those on electronics, have significantly impacted the tech industry and global supply chains. While some tariffs have been exempted, the potential for further tariffs has raised concerns about the cost of electronics and the future of Apple's global supply chain. The situation has also led to discussions about diversifying supply chains and exploring alternative manufacturing locations.

 

[Frood]

Most of it is shit.

Good riddance. Learn to do without.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Good thing I just bought a new MacBook.

 

[Frood]

I prefer secondhand items of high quality.

I'd love to get my in-laws' Westinghouse fridge from the early 60's. It's still ticking along.

 

[Lily]

"Logistics experts are warning that cargo volumes at U.S. ports are undergoing a precipitous drop. This trend is most apparent in Los Angeles, home to the nation’s busiest port, and one that is first to feel any drop-off from Asian shipping. The drop in container shipping is the latest sign the White House’s trade war is having a real effect on the U.S. economy, and one sizable group of workers is poised to feel the impact first: long-haul truckers."

I thought you soy-sipping Proggie fairies hated long-haul truckers? Now you're all worried about them because Trump?

It's the economy, stupid.

 

[Admin.]

We don't live in a global society, we live on a globe of nations. I put my nation first. You don't.

You’re now bragging about being dumb?

 

[Reggie_Essent]

You’re now bragging about being dumb?

Sure. You America Haters with your TDS religious mania are just so smart.

Now, explain why you suddenly care about long-haul truckers when just the other week your kind hated them?

 

[Admin.]

Sure. You America Haters with your TDS religious mania are just so smart.

Now, explain why you suddenly care about long-haul truckers when just the other week your kind hated them?

I think Warren Buffet is infinitely more knowledgeable about economics and trade than your knee jerk ass.

Warren Buffett says ‘trade should not be a weapon’ at annual Berkshire meeting

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I think Warren Buffet is infinitely more knowledgeable about economics and trade than your knee jerk ass.

Warren Buffett says ‘trade should not be a weapon’ at annual Berkshire meeting

Of course that's what Warren Buffet says. He's a moneypig trader. And trade has been used as a weapon and lever of international diplomacy for thousands of years.

Why are you opposed to Trump trying to get better trade deals for the American People?

And answer my question about why you are suddenly so concerned about long-haul truckers when just last week you probably hated them all because most of them are Trump supporters.

 

[Garraty_47]

Re-introducing a manufacturing base to the USA isn't a bad idea but there are at least a couple things that have to be done in order to realistically make that happen.

1) Infrastructure
Roads, bridges, railways, etc. are essential to supporting and enabling factories, especially large-scale operations intended to engage in national/global trade. That means significant government investment if it's ever to be taken seriously.

2) Training
Creating a workforce, especially one competent with automation and high-tech facilities, can't simply be pulled out of a hat like a fucking rabbit. It takes time... and investment. The level of investment that is best if not necessarily done at the federal government level.

3) Construction
Actually building or renovating existing structures to meet the needs of modern manufacturing standards. These structures aren't going to appear overnight and it'll cost quite a lot of money even if only in tax incentives and grants.

Only when those things are *already* in place can tariffs be considered to help the new businesses/industries get established and become profitable. Skipping straight to tariffs and expecting them to do all the heavy lifting isn't just inadvisable... it's lunacy. Nobody with any idea how this stuff works believes that's anything other than folly.

The Trump administration's approach to "bringing back manufacturing" to the USA is either a load of bullshit disguising some other agenda or the result of imbeciles trying to do heart surgery with a jackhammer.

/shrug

 

[Frood]

Re-introducing a manufacturing base to the USA isn't a bad idea but there are at least a couple things that have to be done in order to realistically make that happen.

1) Infrastructure
Roads, bridges, railways, etc. are essential to supporting and enabling factories, especially large-scale operations intended to engage in national/global trade. That means significant government investment if it's ever to be taken seriously.

2) Training
Creating a workforce, especially one competent with automation and high-tech facilities, can't simply be pulled out of a hat like a fucking rabbit. It takes time... and investment. The level of investment that is best if not necessarily done at the federal government level.

3) Construction
Actually building or renovating existing structures to meet the needs of modern manufacturing standards. These structures aren't going to appear overnight and it'll cost quite a lot of money even if only in tax incentives and grants.

Only when those things are *already* in place can tariffs be considered to help the new businesses/industries get established and become profitable. Skipping straight to tariffs and expecting them to do all the heavy lifting isn't just inadvisable... it's lunacy. Nobody with any idea how this stuff works believes that's anything other than folly.

The Trump administration's approach to "bringing back manufacturing" to the USA is either a load of bullshit disguising some other agenda or the result of imbeciles trying to do heart surgery with a jackhammer.

/shrug

To fix a bad heart it's often necessary to stop it beating before operating on it...

 

[Garraty_47]

To fix a bad heart it's often necessary to stop it beating before operating on it...

Fine, but you don't stop the heart first and then set up the operating room, call the anesthesiologist, and google how to do the operation. A bit late then innit mate?

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Re-introducing a manufacturing base to the USA isn't a bad idea but there are at least a couple things that have to be done in order to realistically make that happen.

1) Infrastructure
Roads, bridges, railways, etc. are essential to supporting and enabling factories, especially large-scale operations intended to engage in national/global trade. That means significant government investment if it's ever to be taken seriously.

2) Training
Creating a workforce, especially one competent with automation and high-tech facilities, can't simply be pulled out of a hat like a fucking rabbit. It takes time... and investment. The level of investment that is best if not necessarily done at the federal government level.

3) Construction
Actually building or renovating existing structures to meet the needs of modern manufacturing standards. These structures aren't going to appear overnight and it'll cost quite a lot of money even if only in tax incentives and grants.

Only when those things are *already* in place can tariffs be considered to help the new businesses/industries get established and become profitable. Skipping straight to tariffs and expecting them to do all the heavy lifting isn't just inadvisable... it's lunacy. Nobody with any idea how this stuff works believes that's anything other than folly.

The Trump administration's approach to "bringing back manufacturing" to the USA is either a load of bullshit disguising some other agenda or the result of imbeciles trying to do heart surgery with a jackhammer.

/shrug

No one is expecting everything to be "fixed" overnight in spite of the endless economic doom porn put out by the Left. It took 4 decades for this trade imbalance to metastasize into the "Fuck America Up The Ass" grotesquerie it has become. The tariffs and threats of tariffs are levers used to shift global capital and trade flows into patterns that are more beneficial to America and Americans.

The alternative is the status quo which most Americans voted against.

 

[Garraty_47]

No one is expecting everything to be "fixed" overnight in spite of the endless economic doom porn put out by the Left. It took 4 decades for this trade imbalance to metastasize into the "Fuck America Up The Ass" grotesquerie it has become. The tariffs and threats of tariffs are levers used to shift global capital and trade flows into patterns that are more beneficial to America and Americans.

Shiny.
But *HOW*?
With shit infrastructure, no plants or people qualified to run them, what's the point of throwing a big honking wrench in the gears? The only thing it's going to accomplish is fucking things up even more and for a long time (at least as long as it will take to actually establish the conditions necessary for a 'Murican manufacturing base).

It's tearing down the current system without pre-positioning anything to take its place.

It's just wanton indiscriminate destruction and I don't believe many people voted for *that*.

 

[Admin.]

Want to know the most surefire indicator that we’re heading for economic chaos?

It’s not that consumer confidence plunged to a Covid-era low due to anxiety over Trump’s tariffs.

It’s not that the economy shrank by 0.3 percent in the first quarter of 2025 after years of growth under Biden.

It’s not even that J.P. Morgan raised the probability of a recession occurring this year up to 60 percent.

It’s that Trump’s own officials and staffers are stockpiling basic goods, like toilet paper, in anticipation of the supply chain shocks and increased prices brought on by Trump’s nonsensical tariffs.

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@Reggie_Essent will you call Trumps staff and tell them they’re over reacting!

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Shiny.
But *HOW*?
With shit infrastructure, no plants or people qualified to run them, what's the point of throwing a big honking wrench in the gears? The only thing it's going to accomplish is fucking things up even more and for a long time (at least as long as it will take to actually establish the conditions necessary for a 'Murican manufacturing base).

It's tearing down the current system without pre-positioning anything to take its place.

It's just wanton indiscriminate destruction and I don't believe many people voted for *that*.

It has to be done now or there will be no 'Murica' anymore after a few more years. As I pointed out, the status quo is unacceptable and most importantly unsustainable.

Infrastructure will be back-filled as needed. (Though it makes you wonder where all those billions for "shovel ready jobs" that Obama spent really went since they didn't go into infrastructure projects. But we didn't have DOGE then.)

Plants will be built through private capital investment. I believe $6 or $7 Trillion has already been committed to such investment.

Does all this "fuck things up they way they are now?" Yes. That's the point. We cannot continue the way things have been and there will be uncomfortable adjustments, but in the long run America will be in a better position.

America First. If you don't much like 'Murica' then move to France.

 

[Garraty_47]

You had me until the ol' "if you don't like it, leave" trope.

No. I don't think I will. /shrug

 

[Reggie_Essent]

You had me until the ol' "if you don't like it, leave" trope.

No. I don't think I will. /shrug

Just a habitual poke of the stick. The use of 'Murica' is itself a Leftist trope of disparagement. It may have triggered my antique jingoism that views love of country as something pure and right. Let it not bother you. Our woods are wide enough.

 

[Garraty_47]

I see and appreciate the potential of 'Murica and some of the things we as a nation have accomplished but I don't place blind faith or unquestioning obedience in anyfuckingthing, especially a country that has become the biggest and most vicious terrorist organization on the planet while simultaneously being the avatar for voracious predatory greed.

My respect is earned, not presumed.
I'll stop using 'Murica when doing so is unwarranted in my estimation.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I see and appreciate the potential of 'Murica and some of the things we as a nation have accomplished but I don't place blind faith or unquestioning obedience in anyfuckingthing, especially a country that has become the biggest and most vicious terrorist organization on the planet while simultaneously being the avatar for voracious predatory greed.

My respect is earned, not presumed.
I'll stop using 'Murica when doing so is unwarranted in my estimation.

Points taken. I myself question why we, the taxpayer, are paying to have a military footprint in 130 of the 190 nations on the globe. We are after all a Republic and not an Empire as I understand, so I have often wondered why the American taxpayer is paying to maintain bases all over the fucking planet.

But of course none of our resident Lefties would want any of these things DOGEd as a simple calculation of Trump hate, but these are things I myself question.

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

Why are you opposed to Trump trying to get better trade deals for the American People?

Since Admin isn't honest enough to answer, I'll take a wild guess: Because he despises the American people.

And answer my question about why you are suddenly so concerned about long-haul truckers when just last week you probably hated them all because most of them are Trump supporters.

That's because Admin doesn't genuinely adhere to any principles; conveniently, this allows him to suborn any position he's ever taken in order to indulge in his Trump Hate addiction.

 

[Lily]

Points taken. I myself question why we, the taxpayer, are paying to have a military footprint in 130 of the 190 nations on the globe. We are after all a Republic and not an Empire as I understand, so I have often wondered why the American taxpayer is paying to maintain bases all over the fucking planet.

But of course none of our resident Lefties would want any of these things DOGEd as a simple calculation of Trump hate, but these are things I myself question.

You don't understand why we have bases all over the planet?

Are you serious?!