Why Putin Loves Secessionists

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..and why propaganda puking trumputinist parrot puppets are promoting it. (of course we have known trumputinist shills right here on BTF)

The excuse one sometimes hears is that people don't trust the election process - the FAKE election fraud hoax perpetrated by Trump and adopted by his mindless minions, all doing Putin's bidding, undermining belief in democratic processes and therefore Democracy itself. Secession and division is what Putin wants in the US and throughout Europe in order to weaken partnerships, and through election engineering as we had here in 2016 to install puppet dicktaters like Trump who will further his cause.

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June 23, 2015

With the old Confederate battle flag very much in the news as a result of the horrific racist shooting in Charleston, S.C. last week, politicians across party lines are rushing to consign the symbol of Southern secessionism to museums, rather than to state capitols in former Confederate states.
But support for the secessionist cause still remains strong in…the Kremlin.
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, reporter Casey Michel outlines the deeply strange connection between the
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, a group that advocates for Texas breaking away from the Union, and authorities in Russia.
Nathan Smith, the self-described foreign minister of TNM, has been welcomed at far right rallies in Russia, and feted by state media for describing the U.S. as being “not a democracy, but a dictatorship.”
The Kremlin has also apparently harnessed its considerable army of Internet “trolls” to gin up discussions of Texas eventually seceding from the Union on various platforms globally. etc

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It was a surprising development on a surprising night. In the early hours of 9 November 2016, shortly after it became clear that Donald Trump would be the next president of the United States,
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"Calexit" is short for "California exit" - the idea that the US state could break away from the rest of the nation - and the election-night trend seemed to be driven by liberal activists wary that heavily Democratic California would be governed by Trump.


But BBC Trending has found evidence that the hashtag had some outside help, from accounts run by people based in Russia.
As a result of US Senate hearings into possible Russian influence on the election, Twitter recently released a list of accounts banned from the network because of ties to the Internet Research Agency, a St Petersburg-based "troll factory".
There are also indications that the election night #Calexit trend - the hashtag was mentioned 100,000 times in the course of a few hours - was artificially driven by automated bots or fake accounts. Several of the most retweeted messages under the hashtag were posted by accounts with just a few hundred followers. And some of those tweets were retweeted thousands of times, an unlikely - though not impossible - occurrence.
In the hours after it became clear that Trump would win the election, one #Calexit tweet by a California teenager was the most retweeted message using the hashtag:


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And then there is Vladimir Putin, a man who is always eager to insert himself craftily into any juicy trouble spot — the exploitation of which strengthens Russia’s hand and nefarious alliance games.

Putin has long been bent on reversing Russia’s defeat in the Cold War — and on restoring the dominance it lost with the collapse of the Soviet Empire.

Stirring civil unrest
To boot, Putin has stirred civil unrest and supported separatist movements in many regions of the world.

He has done so in Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, Armenia — and other former Soviet republics, as well as in Syria, Libya and the Central African Republic.

What about the United States? There, it isn’t so much about deploying off-label military, often referred to as “little green men” (remember those soldiers wearing no insignia who were used by Putin to annex Crimea from Ukraine in 2014?).

The forces that Putin’s Russia deploys in the United States are much more sophisticated — and insidious.

Always looking for foreign help
While the exact nature of the Trump election campaign’s cooperation with Russia has never been fully revealed, Trump has admitted that he welcomes foreign support in elections.

Ominously, Russia remains the only major country not to congratulate Joe Biden on his election victory.

Putin and Trump are the only heads of state — with the exception of some third world autocrats — not to accept the result of the U.S. election.

Conclusion
Russian and Soviet power have long been based on waging disinformation wars. The extent to which Russia plays this game in an ever more obtrusive and simultaneously nefarious fashion has recently been exposed.

In that sense, Putin does rely on sending his “little green men” to the United States, only that they operate in digital form — not sporting any generic military garb.

But alongside a U.S. President who only cares about himself and never really about the nation he leads, this digital insertion of Russia’s destructiveness can easily foment the slide toward major unrest and political violence.
 

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Hey idiot, the russia Trump hoax has been officially debunked and your peeps are going to the slam. Hell, Durham is pumping the meat to em right now and they're squealing like pigs. Meanwhile, we're still waiting for you clowns to get Trump any minute now.
 

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Hey idiot, the russia Trump hoax has been officially debunked and your peeps are going to the slam. Hell, Durham is pumping the meat to em right now and they're squealing like pigs. Meanwhile, we're still waiting for you clowns to get Trump any minute now.

And the pipeline shit.

There is just so much irony it's amazing.
 
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(of course we have known trumputinist shills right here on BTF)
...and one can certainly recognize these shills by who makes the most vociferous objections to the facts which I have posted. No doubt they will now say there were no facts posted. It's all so very predictable.
 

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The logic here as follows.....this is how H discerns info according to his existing partisan biases

If Putin says he LIKES something.....then anyone supporting that thing Putin SAYS he likes is a "Putanist".

If Putin doesnt say anything about something.....it means the people doing the thing he says nothing on are the winners. Not the putanists.

So it's not like Putin would never take an incentive to praise something so people like H will be like "oh muh gawd RUSSIA endorses this! Its puntanism!!"

You know it's not like Biden would never pull a quick one on the global stage where he benefits and stupid monoparty Americans back it cuz....putanism.

Because we have no real measures to know what authoritarianism actually looks like. Or what makes putanism putanism. Nope. It's all what Putan thinks and says.

It's not like the elites are elites for a reason and they know how to market and manipulate. Nope. H is way smarter than them, dangit. He knows it's the CONS. The whole wide WORLD has taken a partisan stance on American politics!!!

*yawn*
 
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(of course we have known trumputinist shills right here on BTF)
...and one can certainly recognize these shills by who makes the most vociferous objections to the facts which I have posted. No doubt they will now say there were no facts posted. It's all so very predictable.
...and I suppose there will be the trotting out of various whataboutisms.
 

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(of course we have known trumputinist shills right here on BTF)
...and one can certainly recognize these shills by who makes the most vociferous objections to the facts which I have posted. No doubt they will now say there were no facts posted. It's all so very predictable.
...and I suppose there will be the trotting out of various whataboutisms.

You mean like the real whataboutism Putan just threw at American because now we also do political prisoners here?

Or do you when people point out your partisan hypocrisy(which isnt actually a whataboutism)?

Kinda funny you guys rely on Russian terms of speech.

Hey H......do know why peer review exists and why people even way smarter than you rely on it?

You still skeered to directly engage me?
 

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I think the Russians hacked all of my yahoo accounts as I can't get in ta them anymore. It happened during the 2016 US Presidential election when all these allegations of Russian interference were going on. They were mostly emails from old girlfriends. so they stole my best memories those goddamn Russians.
 

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Putin and Biden suck each other off, they are all best friends that have dinner parties at each others homes. The rich elite laugh at the retards that believe these world leaders are enemies. Far from it, they are one big happy globalist family.

That family stays fat and rich by making you believe they all hate each other.

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This is what happens when you go against THE FAMILY

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This is what happens when you go against THE FAMILY

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...and that 'Family' makes up 'crimes' and vilified others so you won't notice their activities or their real crimes.

Ie - Rod Bagojevich goes to prison for 10 years for supposedly trying to sell Obama's Senate seat to Oprah Winfrey, while the Bush/Cheney cabal start wars on a lie & the Wall Street gang gets away with plundering trillions during the 2008 financial crisis.

Nobody hears about their crimes and they get away with it.
 

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They promote it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
 
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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
 

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(of course we have known trumputinist shills right here on BTF)
...and one can certainly recognize these shills by who makes the most vociferous objections to the facts which I have posted. No doubt they will now say there were no facts posted. It's all so very predictable.
...and I suppose there will be the trotting out of various whataboutisms.
Whatabout you constantly being the pivot man in the group known as the 3 gay amigos? Seems rather unfair.
 

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The claims of collusion was indeed found to be a hoax and the official independent investigation found there was likely little to no impact on the known $10,000 Russian ad buy on Facebook. Details are not your strong point are they?

The wider disinformation campaign is an entirely different topic.
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.

Are you fucking insane?
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.

Are you fucking insane?
No, just your standard biden voter.
 

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The claims of collusion was indeed found to be a hoax and the official independent investigation found there was likely little to no impact on the known $10,000 Russian ad buy on Facebook. Details are not your strong point are they?

The wider disinformation campaign is an entirely different topic.

He is only interested in things that can twisted to smear his political opposition.

He doesn't really care what's true.

He thinks authoritarianism is a state of mind and Trump was authoritarian.

He doesn't believe real authoritarianism is a thing that is a legit danger.
 
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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
So you disagree with Oderstink. You need to send him a meeting reminder.
You want to be all on the same page when you post here - like good little goose-steppers.
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
So you disagree with Oderstink. You need to send him a meeting reminder.
You want to be all on the same page when you post here - like good little goose-steppers.
I agree, you should be tossed in an enclosed area for delousing with Zyklon B!
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
So you disagree with Oderstink. You need to send him a meeting reminder.
You want to be all on the same page when you post here - like good little goose-steppers.

SMDH.

You understand we are saying russiagate....the whole Russia collusion shit? It was a proven LIE. The Clinton campaign planted it.

The Hunter laptop....was AUTHENTIC. It was NOT "Russian disinfo". This was proven.

However, these countries (russia AND china) DO in fact spread propaganda for the purpose of division and conflict in western countries. Mostly propaganda that helps our monoparty establishment.

They got YOUR back, H.

It's so effective on you because hate and "contempt" are natural for you, apparently.
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
So you disagree with Oderstink. You need to send him a meeting reminder.
You want to be all on the same page when you post here - like good little goose-steppers.

SMDH.

You understand we are saying russiagate....the whole Russia collusion shit? It was a proven LIE. The Clinton campaign planted it.

The Hunter laptop....was AUTHENTIC. It was NOT "Russian disinfo". This was proven.

However, these countries (russia AND china) DO in fact spread propaganda for the purpose of division and conflict in western countries. Mostly propaganda that helps our monoparty establishment.

They got YOUR back, H.

It's so effective on you because hate and "contempt" are natural for you, apparently.
That cunt knows exactly what we're talking about.
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
So you disagree with Oderstink. You need to send him a meeting reminder.
You want to be all on the same page when you post here - like good little goose-steppers.

SMDH.

You understand we are saying russiagate....the whole Russia collusion shit? It was a proven LIE. The Clinton campaign planted it.

The Hunter laptop....was AUTHENTIC. It was NOT "Russian disinfo". This was proven.

However, these countries (russia AND china) DO in fact spread propaganda for the purpose of division and conflict in western countries. Mostly propaganda that helps our monoparty establishment.

They got YOUR back, H.

It's so effective on you because hate and "contempt" are natural for you, apparently.
That cunt knows exactly what we're talking about.

So he is intentionally gaslighting as usual.

I try to give the benefit of the doubt because I really do hope it's just ignorance.
 
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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
So you disagree with Oderstink. You need to send him a meeting reminder.
You want to be all on the same page when you post here - like good little goose-steppers.

SMDH.

You understand we are saying russiagate....the whole Russia collusion shit? It was a proven LIE. The Clinton campaign planted it.

The Hunter laptop....was AUTHENTIC. It was NOT "Russian disinfo". This was proven.

However, these countries (russia AND china) DO in fact spread propaganda for the purpose of division and conflict in western countries. Mostly propaganda that helps our monoparty establishment.

They got YOUR back, H.

It's so effective on you because hate and "contempt" are natural for you, apparently.
That cunt knows exactly what we're talking about.
I know you're talking propaganda machine bullshit that you never support with facts,
while neglecting reality, negger homo.
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
So you disagree with Oderstink. You need to send him a meeting reminder.
You want to be all on the same page when you post here - like good little goose-steppers.

SMDH.

You understand we are saying russiagate....the whole Russia collusion shit? It was a proven LIE. The Clinton campaign planted it.

The Hunter laptop....was AUTHENTIC. It was NOT "Russian disinfo". This was proven.

However, these countries (russia AND china) DO in fact spread propaganda for the purpose of division and conflict in western countries. Mostly propaganda that helps our monoparty establishment.

They got YOUR back, H.

It's so effective on you because hate and "contempt" are natural for you, apparently.
That cunt knows exactly what we're talking about.
I know you're talking propaganda machine bullshit that you never support with facts,
while neglecting reality, negger homo.
Eat nigger dix, faggit.
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
So you disagree with Oderstink. You need to send him a meeting reminder.
You want to be all on the same page when you post here - like good little goose-steppers.

SMDH.

You understand we are saying russiagate....the whole Russia collusion shit? It was a proven LIE. The Clinton campaign planted it.

The Hunter laptop....was AUTHENTIC. It was NOT "Russian disinfo". This was proven.

However, these countries (russia AND china) DO in fact spread propaganda for the purpose of division and conflict in western countries. Mostly propaganda that helps our monoparty establishment.

They got YOUR back, H.

It's so effective on you because hate and "contempt" are natural for you, apparently.
That cunt knows exactly what we're talking about.
I know you're talking propaganda machine bullshit that you never support with facts,
while neglecting reality, negger homo.

By facts you mean things "confirmed" by the corporate media machine.....which totally isnt propaganda.

Just "right wing"(everything that's not establishment media)sources is propaganda.

Says the guy who blames the riot deaths and destruction on "white supremacists" and police.
 

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They promot it on both the left and the right. As the congressional investigation said Russia's goal is to promote extremism on both sides as well as to promote conflict. China does the same thing too and both Russia and Co.mumost China often coordinate theor efforts.
...but your comrades said that Russian interference is a hoax.
You must have missed this week's strategy meeting.
Try to follow along, dickhead, the Trump, Putin connection is a total fabrication by YOU PEOPLE!!!!! You got caught, red handed. Trump should be installed as President for life on the sheer principal of the fuckery from you cunts.
So you disagree with Oderstink. You need to send him a meeting reminder.
You want to be all on the same page when you post here - like good little goose-steppers.

Hey, stupid. You do realize different people have different points of view and opinions, right? Because despite what garbage websites you consume tell you not everyone not in your bubble thinks a like.

I tend to have thought you were smarter and more balanced than the fat, bald gay man from Oregon but maybe not. Hopefully, you are just having a bad day and it is not a permanent condition