n October 26, 2021, at Baptist Health Richmond in Kentucky, 36‑year‑old Anthony “TJ” Hoover II was declared brain dead after a drug overdose. Doctors told his family he had no reflexes or brain activity. He had previously consented to , and a medical team began preparations. But about an hour into the procedure, the surgeons abruptly stopped. According to a whistleblower letter later sent to Congress, Hoover had begun “thrashing” on the operating table. Against all odds, he had regained consciousness. Though left with to speech, , and mobility because of the drug overdose, Hoover survived—and was eventually discharged into the care of his sister. His case—and others like it, , to , where people have woken in , coffins, or during last rites—force us to confront a mind-boggling possibility: What if death isn’t the neat, cataclysmic, all-at-once event our medical protocols make it out to be?
Is death really final?
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n October 26, 2021, at Baptist Health Richmond in Kentucky, 36‑year‑old Anthony “TJ” Hoover II was declared brain dead after a drug overdose. Doctors told his family he had no reflexes or brain activity. He had previously consented to , and a medical team began preparations. But about an hour into the procedure, the surgeons abruptly stopped. According to a whistleblower letter later sent to Congress, Hoover had begun “thrashing” on the operating table. Against all odds, he had regained consciousness. Though left with to speech, , and mobility because of the drug overdose, Hoover survived—and was eventually discharged into the care of his sister. His case—and others like it, , to , where people have woken in , coffins, or during last rites—force us to confront a mind-boggling possibility: What if death isn’t the neat, cataclysmic, all-at-once event our medical protocols make it out to be?
AnnaConda
well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.......
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No, death only kills the body, not the soul
Joe
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I've often seen my deceased parents in my dreams. So I feel something exists beyond our world. However no one really knows.
Larry Loungelizard
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Death is overrated.
The Question
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Is death really final?
Yes.
Larry Loungelizard
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Is that your final answer?
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Good point. It's message boards that kill the soul.
. The dead from which one never wokens.
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Ken I play a song? (I know some folks object to music....but fuck them in the ass, ya know?)
Life is overraaaaated
Life is complicaaaated
Gotta get awaaay
From
This complicated life
Son
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It doesn't have to be. As I hear it, if you want to get to Heaven (Devachan) you got to raise a little Hell.
. That is said to be one path.
So, if you are on the Road to Shambala...try music.
The Question
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Heaven, hell, and all the rest are fairytales told to comfort pussies who are afraid of the end.
Instead of being afraid of the end, treat it like a deadline (pun intended) and get important shit done Now.
Instead of being afraid of the end, treat it like a deadline (pun intended) and get important shit done Now.
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Now, speaking of Shangri La, you needn't go anywhere to get there if
...you're in your place and you know where you are.
Seriously though, it isn't a physical place, you can get there from right where you are.
You ken be in your own little Shangri La
The Question
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Religious crackpots. 
Larry Loungelizard
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Religious crackpots.
Ivor Nissan
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Its not the end but I don't know how to explain it in text, if we were all sitting down together I would explain. But fear not your last breath isn't the end for you.
That thorough explanation convinced me!
MANCID RILKO
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But are you prepared to the fact that you might still be there, with all your memories, emotions and unresolved issues?
The Question
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All of that is just circuits written into brain-jelly. When that shuts off? Everything in it just goes away.
MANCID RILKO
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Ivor Nissan
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Kind of but not really. Your energy is still here. You are not here but you are not dead.
The Question
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'You' is just self-writing software running on an organic computer.
The Prowler
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You do not know that.
You do not know that.
You do not know that.
You do not know that.
You do not kn.......wait!
That is actually true.
Ivor Nissan
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You do not know that.
The Question
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The fact that nobody knows that is very solid evidence for that.
MANCID RILKO
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Actually, I do know. It's no longer a belief, not for me.
The Prowler
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I said that 4 times to people other than you.
So which one are you saying you actually do know...?
MANCID RILKO
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That our conscience continues after our physical bodies expire.
The Prowler
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Yeah, you might believe that. You might believe it to the point where you are convinced 100% that it is true.
But you do now know it.
Unless you are using a definition of the word "know" that allows for you to be wrong.
MANCID RILKO
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Each individual has their own personal experiences and they'll vary according to several factors
The Prowler
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Okay. Even if you stood there and witnessed the life energy of a person leave their body and become a spirit and they said "I will be waiting for you." it does not mean that it will happen for everybody.
Maybe some people's consciousness continues, while other people's consciousness goes into a pool of life energy to be used by entirely new entities with their own unique consciousness (i.e. reincarnation).
You never know....
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