Ghislaine Maxwell being well taken care of by Trump

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This whole "peace process" bullshit is just a distraction from the Epstein Files release.

Still doesn't explain why Biden didn't do the deed. These guys are all in collusion.
 
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That was fucking weird, reading that yesterday.
She's got something on trump and she made plans to release it should Trump ever do anything to her like he did to Epstein. Remember his "I wish her well," comment when she was first arrested? And now the Trump DOJ moving her to this low-security country club prison? And the Epstein files? I mean, Trump is so guilty.
 

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She's got something on trump and she made plans to release it should Trump ever do anything to her like he did to Epstein. Remember his "I wish her well," comment when she was first arrested? And now the Trump DOJ moving her to this low-security country club prison? And the Epstein files? I mean, Trump is so guilty.
That's patently obvious. It's still going to unwind. Even with his little puppet Supreme Court he keeps begging to bail him out almost every day.

He's perverted all the levers of power and still can't get anything done. Fucking government needs a major overhaul.
 
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This whole "peace process" bullshit is just a distraction from the Epstein Files release.

Still doesn't explain why Biden didn't do the deed. These guys are all in collusion.
I'm sure because she had something on people like Clinton and Gates, too.
 
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Funny they threw the Royal Family members under the bus on this, yet all the American elite are unscathed so far
I think it's interesting to compare how they handled Diddy with how they've handled Epstein and Maxwell.
 

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I'm not saying she wasn't victimized...but how does a 17 year old girl not know that she's not a massage therapist? You have to be pretty fucking dumb not to know what men are after at 17.

I think she didn't realize how she would feel about herself after participating in these activities.
 

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I'm not saying she wasn't victimized...but how does a 17 year old girl not know that she's not a massage therapist? You have to be pretty fucking dumb not to know what men are after at 17.

I think she didn't realize how she would feel about herself after participating in these activities.

Alternately, young kids that grow up in kind families or circles often take to expressing their affections by shoulder or neck rubs or other unoffensive areas, then get really good at it.

If my daughter wants something from me, she turns my old tired hands and wrists into jelly in seconds...or if I'm just having a really bad day because her loving nature is real.

I can see how a combination of naivety, skill, and praise could be used to entrap somebody long enough to slowly sabotage their sense of self worth thus enabling abuses.

... but Epstein and Maxwell didn't seem to target those from strong families. They went after the issue kids.

I think they were looking for pre-strippers with parent issues. That was their game.
 

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Alternately, young kids that grow up in kind families or circles often take to expressing their affections by shoulder or neck rubs or other unoffensive areas, then get really good at it.

If my daughter wants something from me, she turns my old tired hands and wrists into jelly in seconds...or if I'm just having a really bad day because her loving nature is real.

I can see how a combination of naivety, skill, and praise could be used to entrap somebody long enough to slowly sabotage their sense of self worth thus enabling abuses.

... but Epstein and Maxwell didn't seem to target those from strong families. They went after the issue kids.

I think they were looking for pre-strippers with parent issues. That was their game.
I can't unsee this.
 

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Alternately, young kids that grow up in kind families or circles often take to expressing their affections by shoulder or neck rubs or other unoffensive areas, then get really good at it.

If my daughter wants something from me, she turns my old tired hands and wrists into jelly in seconds...or if I'm just having a really bad day because her loving nature is real.

I can see how a combination of naivety, skill, and praise could be used to entrap somebody long enough to slowly sabotage their sense of self worth thus enabling abuses.

... but Epstein and Maxwell didn't seem to target those from strong families. They went after the issue kids.

I think they were looking for pre-strippers with parent issues. That was their game.

That sounds like grooming behavior to me if it's not your kids.

That article talked about her being impressed with the gaudy interior design, for example, a gold bath or hot tub.

No, I think she simply allowed things to happen and then after being used and abused, realized just how bad she felt about herself.
 

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That sounds like grooming behavior to me if it's not your kids.

That article talked about her being impressed with the gaudy interior design, for example, a gold bath or hot tub.

No, I think she simply allowed things to happen and then after being used and abused, realized just how bad she felt about herself.

Possibly
 

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Yet, those men are still responsible for their behavior. She was legally a minor.

I never made excuses for the adults and would never do so (male or female adults). I'd want to slit all of their throats if they tried that with my kids.
 

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I never made excuses for the adults and would never do so (male or female adults). I'd want to slit all of their throats if they tried that with my kids.

I have nothing but contempt for those bastards.

I hope the Epstein files are released no matter who they implicate. Fuck them, fuck them all.
 
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Dear MAGAts @Reggie_Essent and other Trump apologists:

WHy didn't Trump release the Epstein files during his first administration? Why did he allow Epstein to be suicided while in federal custody during his first admin? Just curious
 
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I'm not saying she wasn't victimized...but how does a 17 year old girl not know that she's not a massage therapist? You have to be pretty fucking dumb not to know what men are after at 17.

I think she didn't realize how she would feel about herself after participating in these activities.
She was sexually abused by her father and her father's friend as a child. She was psychologically damaged when Epstein met her, and he fucking knew that. Those are the kinds of people who are easiest to abuse.
 

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She was sexually abused by her father and her father's friend as a child. She was psychologically damaged when Epstein met her, and he fucking knew that. Those are the kinds of people who are easiest to abuse.

I didn't know that at the time I posted my post. I found out subsequently. Now, I suspect her father was well aware of what she would be subject to, the sick fuck..
 

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I'm halfway through this episode. I have to stop periodically because it's so horrible. Two things are clear to me.

The Epstein files must be released regardless of the fall out.

Trolling about child sex abuse is heinous and should be a bannable offense. Making fun of that kind of pain perpetuates the victimization of children.

Do better @Bastard Factory .