Abortion vs death penalty?

LotusBud

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Is this your signature humor?

So be remembered like admin for posting a music vid rather than engaging a question.

The larger your echo chamber grows, the smaller in stature you are.

Listen to a song of fools or be rebuked. ~ paraphrasing Ecclesiastes 7:5

A knife blade isn't made sharper by soft landings. But through coarse interactions.
I didn't mean it to be funny.

I think war is a massive travesty.
 
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Lotus, the poor guy was so out of it/confused he was addressing both of us in a reply to your post.
...unless you post a lot of vids like Admin....LoLz

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  • Unintended Pregnancies: The vast majority (about 95%) of abortions are the result of unintended pregnancies, including mistimed or unwanted pregnancies, say
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I believe in free choice because at some point I believe people will evolve to embrace life rather than abortion for convenience sake.

I'm not forcing realization.

It is my HOPE this gets realized.

Let's up the ante here.

@LotusBud What if after discovering prenancy, the mother says she doesn't want the child... and what if we had the technology to either abort it, or remove it and develop it outside her body to then have the child adopted?

Do you & @Holy Holliday ! think she should still be able to still just say, nah it's mine & I don't want it so no one else can have it either?
 

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  • Unintended Pregnancies: The vast majority (about 95%) of abortions are the result of unintended pregnancies, including mistimed or unwanted pregnancies, say
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I believe in free choice because at some point I believe people will evolve to embrace life rather than abortion for convenience sake.

I'm not forcing realization.

It is my HOPE this gets realized.

Let's up the ante here.

@LotusBud What if after discovering prenancy, the mother says she doesn't want the child... and what if we had the technology to either abort it, or remove it and develop it outside her body to then have the child adopted?

Do you & @Holy Holliday ! think she should still be able to still just say, nah it's mine & I don't want it so no one else can have it either?
You already have your own opinion, so I'm not going to try to change it. I also refuse to accept your incorrect interpretation of what I believe about human life. Fuck that shit.
 
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I believe in abortion rights because I believe some day people will choose to veer away from abortion. Lead a horse to water. Can't make it drink.

Let people have freedom of choice hoping some day they won't choose abortion as a simple convenience... which 95% of abortions currently are.

I asked abortion activists (Lotusbud & Holliday); if we had the power to remove the fetus & raise it outside the mother, then could we just do that or does the mother's power of choice extend beyond her own body to include destroying life not grown within herself?

They absconded.
 

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I believe in abortion rights because I believe some day people will choose to veer away from abortion. Lead a horse to water. Can't make it drink.

Let people have freedom of choice hoping some day they won't choose abortion as a simple convenience... which 95% of abortions currently are.

I asked abortion activists (Lotusbud & Holliday); if we had the power to remove the fetus & raise it outside the mother, then could we just do that or does the mother's power of choice extend beyond her own body to include destroying life not grown within herself?

They absconded.
I'm like Margaret Sanger. I'm all for abortions to cull undesirable traits from the human gene pool.

I also support the death penalty for that reason plus the fact that vengeance is an essential component of the concept of Justice.
 
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You already have your own opinion, so I'm not going to try to change it. I also refuse to accept your incorrect interpretation of what I believe about human life. Fuck that shit.
Change my heart & mind.

Refuse my interpretation.

I want you to change my mind.

The anvil doesn't shy away from slams.

And you never even attempted to answer my query.

I'm not baiting you.

I really want to know.

What you feel.

Why you feel the way you feel.

And how you feel about the way you feel.

I'm not stagnant.

I'm a change agent personified.
 

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I believe in abortion rights because I believe some day people will choose to veer away from abortion. Lead a horse to water. Can't make it drink.

Let people have freedom of choice hoping some day they won't choose abortion as a simple convenience... which 95% of abortions currently are.

I asked abortion activists (Lotusbud & Holliday); if we had the power to remove the fetus & raise it outside the mother, then could we just do that or does the mother's power of choice extend beyond her own body to include destroying life not grown within herself?

They absconded.
You did not ask that. Here is what you asked.
@LotusBud What if after discovering prenancy, the mother says she doesn't want the child... and what if we had the technology to either abort it, or remove it and develop it outside her body to then have the child adopted?

Do you & @Holy Holliday ! think she should still be able to still just say, nah it's mine & I don't want it so no one else can have it either?
You asked that after stating that you believed in choice.
Why if you believe in choice would you suggest that the woman would not have that right?
 

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I'm like Margaret Sanger. I'm all for abortions to cull undesirable traits from the human gene pool.

I also support the death penalty for that reason plus the fact that vengeance is an essential component of the concept of Justice.
LoLz - you have a very incomplete/shallow/rudimentary/fundi view of human evolution.

Reggie believes in the wrath of a vengeful and jealous god.
 

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Change my heart & mind.

Refuse my interpretation.

I want you to change my mind.

The anvil doesn't shy away from slams.

And you never even attempted to answer my query.

I'm not baiting you.

I really want to know.

What you feel.

Why you feel the way you feel.

And how you feel about the way you feel.

I'm not stagnant.

I'm a change agent personified.
Let me just put it this way: You have absolutely no idea what I believe about human life, so I do not want you ever to tell me what I do and do not believe about it again. Not ever. That being said, I am not going to try to explain it to you, because it's complicated and would require a face-to-face conversation. Also, what I believe about human life is sacred to me, and I have no interest whatsoever in being trolled about it. It all boils down to this: I do not believe anyone else has the right to tell a pregnant woman whether or not she must carry that fetus to term. It's on the pregnant woman. No one else. MY god forgives.
 

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Let me just put it this way: You have absolutely no idea what I believe about human life, so I do not want you ever to tell me what I do and do not believe about it again. Not ever. That being said, I am not going to try to explain it to you, because it's complicated and would require a face-to-face conversation. Also, what I believe about human life is sacred to me, and I have no interest whatsoever in being trolled about it. It all boils down to this: I do not believe anyone else has the right to tell a pregnant woman whether or not she must carry that fetus to term. It's on the pregnant woman. No one else. MY god forgives.
You know how these trolls operate lotus.
 
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Some people seem to think, like Bonnie Blue, that the pussy is there as a means to an end ala physical pleasure only or a paycheck. And other people seem to think evolution didn't evolve us to become self aware enough to just abort our future off the face of the planet. Or if it did... then CHECKMATE!

If evolution made you think any life coming after you isn't just as important to you as yours is to you now then evolution is closing the loop by using your own self interests against you.
 
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You did not ask that. Here is what you asked.

You asked that after stating that you believed in choice.
Why if you believe in choice would you suggest that the woman would not have that right?
And if the woman has that right and we could abort or remove the fetus to grow outside the mother?

Oh yeah. You pussed out on that hypothetical.
 
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LoLz - you have a very incomplete/shallow/rudimentary/fundi view of human evolution.

Reggie believes in the wrath of a vengeful and jealous god.
Margaret Sanger wasn't a jealous god. She was just someone who believed in aborting any human who wasn't perfect or with undesirable traits. Maybe even black & brown skins. You know. She was basically a fascist nazi. Or I think wikipedia says "activist". Sure. Go with that.

Goddamn funny.

Maybe instead of trying to look up to the past... look to the future?

Then you can defend abortion without getting all the blood on your hands defending Margaret Sanger.
 
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Let me just put it this way: You have absolutely no idea what I believe about human life, so I do not want you ever to tell me what I do and do not believe about it again. Not ever. That being said, I am not going to try to explain it to you, because it's complicated and would require a face-to-face conversation. Also, what I believe about human life is sacred to me, and I have no interest whatsoever in being trolled about it. It all boils down to this: I do not believe anyone else has the right to tell a pregnant woman whether or not she must carry that fetus to term. It's on the pregnant woman. No one else. MY god forgives.
Sure. Then don't troll my thread with "war!", unless you're willing to engage.

Glad you believe in god. You have something to look forward to.

I don't and I don't.