If you started feeling safer, it's because Ice just shot another American for liberty and justice for all. MAGA!

[Admin.]

I am much more disturbed by the work visas they give to foreign tech people because the foreign tech folks will take much lower wages. THOSE are the people actually taking American jobs, and they are legal.

When I was in the car biz in Portland I personally sold 3 cars to 3 Israeli nationals working temp engineering jobs at Intel out in Beaverton/Hillsboro in the 90's

 

[Holliday 3000]

I am much more disturbed by the work visas they give to foreign tech people because the foreign tech folks will take much lower wages. THOSE are the people actually taking American jobs, and they are legal.

Absolutely, all the biggies like Gates and Musk have been advocating for the cheap foreign labor, and as I have always pointed out - all immigration at this point (and for a long time past) is about wage suppression. Of course if MAGA and contard heros like Gates and Musk want it then it's good, if a local landscaper wants it, it's bad.
..and no doubt you recall, the conservative corporatist Obama, was letting the tech, and manufacturing industries import as many cheap laborers as they could want.
It's always about the money.
Who can reasonably argue that 330 million people just isn't enough to keep a country running, and we simply can't educate our own people?

Pure bullshit on the part of economic conservatives (to be distinguished from brownie hating social conservatives).

 

[LotusBud]

Absolutely, all the biggies like Gates and Musk have been advocating for the cheap foreign labor, and as I have always pointed out - all immigration at this point (and for a long time past) is about wage suppression. Of course if MAGA and contard heros like Gates and Musk want it then it's good, if a local landscaper wants it, it's bad.
..and no doubt you recall, the conservative corporatist Obama, was letting the tech, and manufacturing industries import as many cheap laborers as they could want.
It's always about the money.
Who can reasonably argue that 330 million people just isn't enough to keep a country running, and we simply can't educate our own people?

Pure bullshit on the part of economic conservatives (to be distinguished from brownie hating social conservatives).

Yes. I agree. I just do not agree with persecuting low income, desperate, economic refugees.

BTW, I was not an Obama fan.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

When I was in the car biz in Portland I personally sold 3 cars to 3 Israeli nationals working temp engineering jobs at Intel out in Beaverton/Hillsboro in the 90's

No one gives a fuck that you ripped off three Jews selling them used cars.

Who can reasonably argue that 330 million people just isn't enough to keep a country running, and we simply can't educate our own people?

Yes, we have an education problem, as in the teachers unions have failed to properly educate our children. Perhaps we should ask @LotusBud why Leftist "teachers" have failed so miserably?

Yes. I agree. I just do not agree with persecuting low income, desperate, economic refugees.

BTW, I was not an Obama fan.

So, address Holliday's point, Miss Lotus. Why have you Leftist Trash failed so badly in properly educating our children?

 

[Holliday 3000]

So, address Holliday's point, Miss Lotus. Why have you Leftist Trash failed so badly in properly educating our children?

You know, maybe Lotus could give you some reading lessons.
. hThat wasn't what I wrote.
It's all bullshit that we don't educate people, it's just a convenience to say we haven't the educated people we need so the argument can be made that we need to import workers.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

You know, maybe Lotus could give you some reading lessons.
. That wasn't what I wrote.
It's all bullshit that we don't educate people, it's just a convenience to say we haven't the educated people we need so the argument can be made that we need to import workers.

Bullshit and you know it. We have the dumbest students in the world and it's the result of the Leftists that have infected our educational institutions. I blame Leftists like our Lotus for our students being so ignorant and stupid.

 

[LotusBud]

No one gives a fuck that you ripped off three Jews selling them used cars.


Yes, we have an education problem, as in the teachers unions have failed to properly educate our children. Perhaps we should ask @LotusBud why Leftist "teachers" have failed so miserably?


So, address Holliday's point, Miss Lotus. Why have you Leftist Trash failed so badly in properly educating our children?

You're too stupid for me to waste any bandwidth on, whatsoever. Later, pal.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

You're too stupid for me to waste any bandwidth on, whatsoever. Later, pal.

Sure thing, Lotus. Can you explain how it is that American students were number one in the world when Jimmy Carter started the Department of Education and filled it with Leftist Scum in 1971, but here we are today and American students are number 40 or 50 in the entire world?

I know you can't explain it because you're fucking dumb, but it is the truth. Our failing educational system is the direct result of you Leftists running the show. That's gotta make you at least slightly embarrassed.

 

[Holliday 3000]

American students are number 40 or 50 in the entire world?

The United States ranks around 10th to 12th overall for national education systems, though performance varies significantly depending on the subject and the specific international assessment. [

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

,

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

]

PISA Subject Rankings (Global / OECD Comparisons)
In the

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

, which tests 15-year-old students around the world: [

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

]

• Reading: The U.S. ranks 6th among OECD member countries (and 9th globally out of all participating countries), scoring well above the international average.
• Science: The U.S. ranks 13th among OECD members (and 16th globally), also scoring above the average.
• Math: The U.S. lags behind, ranking 28th among OECD members (and 34th globally), falling slightly below the OECD average. [
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ]

Strengths and Weaknesses

• Higher Education: The U.S. consistently leads the world in higher education quality, university research output, and top-ranked global universities. [
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ]
• K-12 Inconsistency: According to analysis on
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  , opinions are mixed regarding systemic flaws, though educators and data show high internal heterogeneity—meaning top-performing U.S. states (like Massachusetts) match the best European nations, while under-resourced districts pull down the national average. [
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ]
• Spending vs. Outcome: The U.S. spends more money per K-12 student than almost any other country, but faces persistent gaps in equity, consistency, and math achievement compared to nations like Singapore, China, Finland, and South Korea. [
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ]

Most Educated States (Golly, why are all those red states at the bottom)​

Overall Rank*	State	Total Score	Educational Attainment Rank	Quality of Education Rank
1	Massachusetts	78.41	1	4
2	Vermont	75.35	3	9
3	Maryland	74.01	4	3
4	Connecticut	69.83	7	6
5	Colorado	69.72	2	38
6	New Jersey	68.45	10	1
7	Virginia	67.50	6	11
8	New Hampshire	67.03	5	14
9	Minnesota	63.88	8	20
10	Washington	63.69	9	21
11	Utah	60.29	11	26
12	Maine	59.95	12	15
13	Rhode Island	58.93	21	2
14	Delaware	57.26	19	8
15	Illinois	56.41	16	17
16	New York	55.36	17	24
17	Oregon	55.34	13	41
18	Montana	54.13	14	43
19	Wisconsin	53.59	24	13
20	Pennsylvania	52.98	27	12
21	Florida	52.89	35	5
22	North Carolina	52.30	25	18
23	Hawaii	52.16	15	47
24	Kansas	51.28	18	44
25	Nebraska	50.92	20	39
26	Wyoming	50.75	23	37
27	Michigan	50.28	28	23
28	North Dakota	48.50	22	46
29	California	48.31	38	7
30	Georgia	48.07	30	25
31	Missouri	47.29	32	29
32	Iowa	47.02	33	30
33	South Dakota	46.98	31	32
34	Arizona	46.87	29	35
35	Ohio	46.81	36	19
36	Alaska	46.57	26	49
37	Idaho	46.39	34	33
38	South Carolina	44.71	37	27
39	Tennessee	43.21	40	16
40	Indiana	42.36	42	10
41	Texas	39.98	41	22
42	New Mexico	37.05	39	50
43	Alabama	35.73	44	31
44	Kentucky	34.71	45	28
45	Oklahoma	33.87	43	42
46	Nevada	33.01	46	36
47	Arkansas	29.84	47	34
48	Louisiana	28.13	48	40
49	Mississippi	26.00	49	48
50	West Virginia	24.35	50	45

..and again, so strange - all the red states at the bottom.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

 

[Reggie_Essent]

The United States ranks around 10th to 12th overall for national education systems, though performance varies significantly depending on the subject and the specific international assessment. [

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

,

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

]

PISA Subject Rankings (Global / OECD Comparisons)
In the

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

, which tests 15-year-old students around the world: [

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

]

• Reading: The U.S. ranks 6th among OECD member countries (and 9th globally out of all participating countries), scoring well above the international average.
• Science: The U.S. ranks 13th among OECD members (and 16th globally), also scoring above the average.
• Math: The U.S. lags behind, ranking 28th among OECD members (and 34th globally), falling slightly below the OECD average. [
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ]

Strengths and Weaknesses

• Higher Education: The U.S. consistently leads the world in higher education quality, university research output, and top-ranked global universities. [
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ]
• K-12 Inconsistency: According to analysis on
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  , opinions are mixed regarding systemic flaws, though educators and data show high internal heterogeneity—meaning top-performing U.S. states (like Massachusetts) match the best European nations, while under-resourced districts pull down the national average. [
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ]
• Spending vs. Outcome: The U.S. spends more money per K-12 student than almost any other country, but faces persistent gaps in equity, consistency, and math achievement compared to nations like Singapore, China, Finland, and South Korea. [
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ,
  Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
  ]

Most Educated States (Golly, why are all those red states at the bottom)​

Overall Rank*	State	Total Score	Educational Attainment Rank	Quality of Education Rank
1	Massachusetts	78.41	1	4
2	Vermont	75.35	3	9
3	Maryland	74.01	4	3
4	Connecticut	69.83	7	6
5	Colorado	69.72	2	38
6	New Jersey	68.45	10	1
7	Virginia	67.50	6	11
8	New Hampshire	67.03	5	14
9	Minnesota	63.88	8	20
10	Washington	63.69	9	21
11	Utah	60.29	11	26
12	Maine	59.95	12	15
13	Rhode Island	58.93	21	2
14	Delaware	57.26	19	8
15	Illinois	56.41	16	17
16	New York	55.36	17	24
17	Oregon	55.34	13	41
18	Montana	54.13	14	43
19	Wisconsin	53.59	24	13
20	Pennsylvania	52.98	27	12
21	Florida	52.89	35	5
22	North Carolina	52.30	25	18
23	Hawaii	52.16	15	47
24	Kansas	51.28	18	44
25	Nebraska	50.92	20	39
26	Wyoming	50.75	23	37
27	Michigan	50.28	28	23
28	North Dakota	48.50	22	46
29	California	48.31	38	7
30	Georgia	48.07	30	25
31	Missouri	47.29	32	29
32	Iowa	47.02	33	30
33	South Dakota	46.98	31	32
34	Arizona	46.87	29	35
35	Ohio	46.81	36	19
36	Alaska	46.57	26	49
37	Idaho	46.39	34	33
38	South Carolina	44.71	37	27
39	Tennessee	43.21	40	16
40	Indiana	42.36	42	10
41	Texas	39.98	41	22
42	New Mexico	37.05	39	50
43	Alabama	35.73	44	31
44	Kentucky	34.71	45	28
45	Oklahoma	33.87	43	42
46	Nevada	33.01	46	36
47	Arkansas	29.84	47	34
48	Louisiana	28.13	48	40
49	Mississippi	26.00	49	48
50	West Virginia	24.35	50	45

..and again, so strange - all the red states at the bottom.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

You AI is lying to you. US students rank 40+ worldwide in dumbness, and it's all the fault of Leftist Vermin like our Lotus.

 

[Holliday 3000]

You AI is lying to you. US students rank 40+ worldwide in dumbness, and it's all the fault of Leftist Vermin like our Lotus.

Otay. If you say so.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Otay. If you say so.

Have I ever mentioned that your overuse of AI makes you look really stupid?

 

[Holliday 3000]

Have I ever mentioned that your overuse of AI makes you look really stupid?

Well, why don't you refudiate what it says?
. Fact is, you were wrong in your statement, and
red states drag the USA down - which is fact.

 

[Holliday 3000]

So @Reggie_Essent
Just curious,
Are red state people stupid because they vote for Trump,
...or
do they vote for Trump because they're stupid?

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Well, why don't you refudiate what it says?

I just did with your AI gobledygook about education rankings. US students are number 40+ in the world due to the Leftists. Period.

So @Reggie_Essent
Just curious,
Are red state people stupid because they vote for Trump,
...or
do they vote for Trump because they're stupid?

Red States and Blue States are figments of your Mind Virus Imagination. The fact is Democrats (Leftists) rely on stupid people to support them.

Why are you so stupid as to continue to support Leftists? Do you cling to their Envy-based promises to take from the rich and spread some of that cake to you?

 

[Holliday 3000]

I just did with your AI gobledygook about education rankings. US students are number 40+ in the world due to the Leftists. Period.


Red States and Blue States are figments of your Mind Virus Imagination. The fact is Democrats (Leftists) rely on stupid people to support them.

Why are you so stupid as to continue to support Leftists? Do you cling to their Envy-based promises to take from the rich and spread some of that cake to you?

@LotusBud, Reggie is having some problems with read and comprehension.
Could you please spare some time, as a good Christian person, and see if you can help him?

 

[LotusBud]

@LotusBud, Reggie is having some problems with read and comprehension.
Could you please spare some time, as a good Christian person, and see if you can help him?

He's beyond help, and I know you know that.

 

[Admin.]

Well, why don't you refudiate what it says?
. Fact is, you were wrong in your statement, and
red states drag the USA down - which is fact.

A Report from Congress dated February 2025 aka Mike "The Fatherly Masturbator" Johnson's Congress.

Blue States Are Bailing Out Red States

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

 

[Holliday 3000]

A Report from Congress dated February 2025 aka Mike "The Fatherly Masturbator" Johnson's Congress.

Blue States Are Bailing Out Red States

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Now that was Too Long for @Reggie_Essent to Read so I will just excerpt a tiny portion soz not to overburden him.
If he seem to be having trouble...won't someone please help?

From 2018 to 2022, individuals and organizations from blue states contributed nearly 60% of all federal tax receipts but only received 53% of all federal contributions to states in the form of either direct payments, grants, contracts, or wages. Meanwhile, red states were only responsible for 40% of federal tax receipts but received 47% of all federal contributions to states. A 7% differential that in effect equates to a more than $1 trillion transfer payment from blue states to red states, amounting to $4,300 per capita, compared to the instance where their respective fair shares were paid.

 

[Admin.]

Now that was Too Long for @Reggie_Essent to Read so I will just excerpt a tiny portion soz not to overburden him.
If he seem to be having trouble...won't someone please help?

From 2018 to 2022, individuals and organizations from blue states contributed nearly 60% ofall federal tax receipts but only received 53% of all federal contributions to states in the formof either direct payments, grants, contracts, or wages. Meanwhile, red states were onlyresponsible for 40% of federal tax receipts but received 47% of all federal contributions tostates. A 7% differential that in effect equates to a more than $1 trillion transfer payment fromblue states to red states, amounting to $4,300 per capita, compared to the instance wheretheir respective fair shares were paid.

Why do red states always want free stuff?

 

[Holliday 3000]

Why do red states always want free stuff?

You know, they're sort of the hobos of states.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

He's beyond help, and I know you know that.

Tell us again how you taught remedial English to all those public school student who were admitted to college but couldn't read or write?

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Now that was Too Long for @Reggie_Essent to Read so I will just excerpt a tiny portion soz not to overburden him.
If he seem to be having trouble...won't someone please help?

From 2018 to 2022, individuals and organizations from blue states contributed nearly 60% of all federal tax receipts but only received 53% of all federal contributions to states in the form of either direct payments, grants, contracts, or wages. Meanwhile, red states were only responsible for 40% of federal tax receipts but received 47% of all federal contributions to states. A 7% differential that in effect equates to a more than $1 trillion transfer payment from blue states to red states, amounting to $4,300 per capita, compared to the instance where their respective fair shares were paid.

What is the percentage of Registered Democrats who suck their livings from the taxpayers?

Ask your AI Nanny. I'm sure the answer will be interesting.

 

[Admin.]

Could an Immigration And Customs Enforcement expert show me in the ICE database or website or press release etc where they are tracking the unlawful detentions of American Citizens, and the ultimate disposition of those fuck ups? Thank You Duh/v, in advance.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

 

[Admin.]

Now I know this won't impact the Trump supporters since none of them will be collecting their Social Security because Socialism bad, but for the rest of us, this is concerning.

Trump immigrant purge could cut social security for Americans by $2,000 a year​

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Now I know this won't impact the Trump supporters since none of them will be collecting their Social Security because Socialism bad, but for the rest of us, this is concerning.

Trump immigrant purge could cut social security for Americans by $2,000 a year​

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

So you think deporting millions of illegal aliens will somehow lead to reductions in SS benefits?

Gods! I knew you were kinda dumb, Admin., but that's really fucking dumb.

 

[Admin.]

So you think deporting millions of illegal aliens will somehow lead to reductions in SS benefits?

Gods! I knew you were kinda dumb, Admin., but that's really fucking dumb.

^ **Ignored Content** Bwahahaha!

^

 

[Dove]

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Err durr this is what Merica voted for!

Okay this guy Oscar Belgal is NOT an American citizen. He also fled from ICE earlier that week because he knew they were pursuing him for deportation and he also has a extensive criminal history here.

Anytime I see some left wing partisan hack defending someone its pretty much a given that person is going to be some massive scum bag.

If i was in my car and police were approaching me? I know NOT to hit my gas pedal. Trying to run from law enforcement is a great way to get shot at. Its telling how people are whining that his 5 year old was in the car, as if that somehow makes ICE the villains here when that piece of shit KNEW his kid was in the car and thought "fuck it! Im gonna endanger and traumatized my kid and run from ICE with my kid in the car!"

Its obvious white leftists view brown and black people as lower lifeforms who don't know better and should be infantalized and expecting them to meet basic standards of conduct in society is racist. Because we all know the browns can't help it, right? They are low IQ apes and we must cater to that. Let thrm flee unharmed from police and law enforcement. Oscar here clearly didnt know how to act with his kid in the car so that is on ICE. THEY need to make sure not to traumatize an illegal migrants kid. Its not the father's responsibility!

The prick isn't even dead. He is in the hospital. And his deportation has been blocked so he is free to continue draining resources and selling drugs on American streets.

That's a win for the left, right? Move on.

 

[Dove]

No one has been a harsher critic about mass immigration than I have been.
. I do not approve of your golden boy going soft by yielding to 3 large industries and passing over them in enforcement.
What we need is common sense guest worker programs, not Brown Shirtism and street executions.
...and what now becomes of all of the undocumented that Trump let stay because business told him to leave them alone?
You see why my thoughts make sense and Trump's and MAGA's suck?
No you don't. That would require thinking in a functioning, undamaged brain.

When you refer to lae enforment enforcing laws as "brown shirtism'", you destroy any credibility you may have had. Im not having a conversation about anything with a drooliny retard who calls US immigration law enforcement "brown shirtism".

This blend of yours of republican immigration views combined with left wing dumbfuckery is like taking a drink of a smoothie that was spiked with Ajax. Yeah i love strawberry banana......but it has Ajax in it so its garbage. The whole thing gets tossed.

If you want to have this conversation with sane people, learn how to NOT be a complete fucking mongo. It will go a long way.

 

[Holliday 3000]

When you refer to lae enforment enforcing laws as "brown shirtism'"

When I do, I'm making an objective observation.
. When in the name of enforcement a group of government sanction hoods starts killing people in the streets,
fucking up local business communities, and neighborhoods, when common sense approaches, as in a proper guest worker program would accomplish more w/o the violence, then it is Brown Shirtism.
...but you MAGA love the violence so you'll never listen to reason, any more than point out the total failure of your ham fisted approach.
Let's see if you can answer one simple question w/o the MAGA bullshit troll dancing.
That's troll, not pole dancing.

When Trumpty Dumpty caved to Hospitality, Agra, and Construction, leaving the illegal labor used in those industries untouched, what became of those workers? Were they truly needed, were they then documented, or is all as it was after the dog and pony show concluded?

PS: I don't blend anything, particularly any Repukelican anything with anything else.
. What I propose/write on any subject is the product of rational though and consideration -
Not emotional jerkweedism like you and MAGA engage in.
Furthermore on this particular subject my views date back to about 1980,
a time when virtually no one had the foresight to see what was coming and what had gone wrong.

The question you are given to answer is in yellow. Answer or STFU.