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You know what I'm okay with?
I'm okay with every eligible voter being able to vote, which is what a democracy is about.
It isn't about finding ways to prevent people from voting so a minority can rule.


"People who consider themselves liberals or atheists tend to have higher IQs than those who are more religious or conservative, a new study suggests.

Higher IQs also seem to make men less likely to cheat. Men with higher IQs place a higher value on sexual fidelity than men with lower IQs, although the same association with intelligence and monogamy was not found in women, according to the study."

Now I find this very interesting. Obviously conservatives are mentally and emotionally stunted people,
it's part and parcel of the definition
but see the part there that equates infidelity with low IQ (not mentioning any names here)
well that correlates with study after study that find conservatives (Repukes) more liable to cheat than Liberals. Quite telling.
 

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Trump won the 2020 election no matter how "well" democRATs cheated.

Even if that's true, you and the crowd you support are at fault too, Lokmeer

because you bitch and whine about the final result and yet are refuse to advocate electoral reform or at least admit that the US election system is a mess.

Virtually no other Western democracy bitches about the final result because they have national election systems which handle the count, not individual states which make up 50 different laws for a presidential election.
 

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You know what I'm okay with?
I'm okay with every eligible voter being able to vote, which is what a democracy is about.
It isn't about finding ways to prevent people from voting so a minority can

You want our elections to stay easily manipulated.

We have TWO requirements to vote in the US. You have to be a US citizen and 18 years and older.

It has NOTHING to do with "minorities" to want to ensure our elections are fair be requiring PROOF.

And the fact that you guys have chosen to call black people incompetent so you can have some bullshit argument that requiring ID to vote is racist is grotesque and racist in itself.

If you guys gave a single shit about minorities and truly believed that voter ID laws will suppress the black vote because black people cannot get IDs? You could go help them get one.

But since we ALL know that argument is bullshit......you'll just sit your ass on the internet and spew insults at everyone who goes against your establishment heros.
 

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Trump won the 2020 election no matter how "well" democRATs cheated.

Even if that's true, you and the crowd you support are at fault too, Lokmeer

because you bitch and whine about the final result and yet are refuse to advocate electoral reform or at least admit that the US election system is a mess.

Virtually no other Western democracy bitches about the final result because they have national election systems which handle the count, not individual states which make up 50 different laws for a presidential election.

We cant even get basic voting laws passed.
 

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Trump won the 2020 election no matter how "well" democRATs cheated.

Even if that's true, you and the crowd you support are at fault too, Lokmeer

because you bitch and whine about the final result and yet are refuse to advocate electoral reform or at least admit that the US election system is a mess.

Virtually no other Western democracy bitches about the final result because they have national election systems which handle the count, not individual states which make up 50 different laws for a presidential election.

We cant even get basic voting laws passed.

I do think there is a good case to cut Dominion Voting systems and for the US to develop its own naitonal proprietary systtem and procedures.

No private company should be trusted for the vote count of a national election.
 

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You want our elections to stay easily manipulated.
No, that's why I would never vote for a dictator wannabe like Trump.

Free and open elections means every eligible voter gets to vote - which you people oppose in every way possible. Dictatorship can not root in a true democracy.

Trump lost, Putin lost - you lost.

How much do they pay you ? - answer.
More than a day of dime blowjobs, right?
That's why you took the contract.
 

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You want our elections to stay easily manipulated.
No, that's why I would never vote for a dictator wannabe like Trump.

Free and open elections means every eligible voter gets to vote - which you people oppose in every way possible. Dictatorship can not root in a true democracy.

Trump lost, Putin lost - you lost.

How much do they pay you ? - answer.
More than a day of dime blowjobs, right?
That's why you took the contract.

I actually hope Trump never comes back.
Not for his party affilation or what or who he stood for.

It's just that Trump was such a socially destabilizing figure
North American feminism just about (or had) a nervous breakdown which had a ripple affect felt across oceans and borders.
Trump had them crying like babies shitting their pants asi fthey were diapers.
Anti-Trumpism was even affecting women in Canada and they were blaming men for everything.
It was noticeable that they became more relaxed after he was defeated and stepped down.
I noticed aftere he was gone it actually put a smile on their faces.

As bad as Trump might have been, I still liked him more than George W. Bush.
Altho many didn't like Trump, I could at least accept that he was there.

I hope that if the Repubs run somebody the next time, it's a more mentally stable individual.
 

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I hope that if the Repukes run somebody the next time, it's a more mental stable individual.
FTFY (smileyface smiley)

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq which may have killed 1 million people, sent thousands of Americans soldiers unecessasrily to ther deaths or completely trashed the US/world economy. And yet the feminists were up in arms about some guy who said "grab them by the pussy" or remarking how they bleed.

I give Trump for at least one thing - he destroyed ISIS - a monstrosity which George W Bush created with his ill fated invasion of Iraq.

W Bush destroyed more of the planet than trump could ever hope to ....in his dreams.
 

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You want our elections to stay easily manipulated.
No, that's why I would never vote for a dictator wannabe like Trump.

Free and open elections means every eligible voter gets to vote - which you people oppose in every way possible. Dictatorship can not root in a true democracy.

Trump lost, Putin lost - you lost.

How much do they pay you ? - answer.
More than a day of dime blowjobs, right?
That's why you took the contract.

I actually hope Trump never comes back.
Not for his party affilation or what or who he stood for.

It's just that Trump was such a socially destabilizing figure
North American feminism just about (or had) a nervous breakdown which had a ripple affect felt across oceans and borders.
Trump had them crying like babies shitting their pants asi fthey were diapers.
Anti-Trumpism was even affecting women in Canada and they were blaming men for everything.
It was noticeable that they became more relaxed after he was defeated and stepped down.
I noticed aftere he was gone it actually put a smile on their faces.

As bad as Trump might have been, I still liked him more than George W. Bush.
Altho many didn't like Trump, I could at least accept that he was there.

I hope that if the Repubs run somebody the next time, it's a more mentally stable individual.

Trump is and was the most miserable piece of shit ever to be impeached twice. A complete fucking moron.
 

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You want our elections to stay easily manipulated.
No, that's why I would never vote for a dictator wannabe like Trump.

Free and open elections means every eligible voter gets to vote - which you people oppose in every way possible. Dictatorship can not root in a true democracy.

Trump lost, Putin lost - you lost.

How much do they pay you ? - answer.
More than a day of dime blowjobs, right?
That's why you took the contract.

I actually hope Trump never comes back.
Not for his party affilation or what or who he stood for.

It's just that Trump was such a socially destabilizing figure
North American feminism just about (or had) a nervous breakdown which had a ripple affect felt across oceans and borders.
Trump had them crying like babies shitting their pants asi fthey were diapers.
Anti-Trumpism was even affecting women in Canada and they were blaming men for everything.
It was noticeable that they became more relaxed after he was defeated and stepped down.
I noticed aftere he was gone it actually put a smile on their faces.

As bad as Trump might have been, I still liked him more than George W. Bush.
Altho many didn't like Trump, I could at least accept that he was there.

I hope that if the Repubs run somebody the next time, it's a more mentally stable individual.

Trump is and was the most miserable piece of shit ever to be impeached twice. A complete fucking moron.

He was knifed down because neither establishemt in the Democrati cr Republican Party could stand him.

But my own assessment is - you guys have had worse presidents than him, Seamajor.
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily brought about by the W Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.
 
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Oppose the establishment.

I support Bernie, AOC, MTG, Tulsi, Hawley, and TRUMP most of all.

Bernie and AOC sold out and kissed the ring.

Sad, and sadder is their supports mostly dont care.

The DNC is the most corrupt organization in America.

While a lot of Republicans are scumbags (heaps), Democrats are even scummier... they don't seek consent, they seize it and lord over people while trying to socially engineer false paradigms that enrich themselves.

Democrats are wannabe feudal lords...
TRUMP listens to us, Republicans listen to him. Popular fucking sovereignty does not get any simpler.

Well.....except the establishment republicans who may as well just be the DNC.

Trump divided the Republicans and the ones with the people are the ones getting all the hate.

It figures the political class has been serving themselves for so long that when people are in there doing their best to serve the people.....this response of blind hatred happens.

These leftists dont want real change. They want pretty lies and pandering while nothing changes and they can bitch about it and blame what they think is the other party. Or blame the people. They like to think of themselves as smarter than everyone else.

They're pushing the US to a new civil war...

You're kidding, right? US righties have been talking about and encouraging a new civil war ever since I started posting on these con-heavy boards, and now the leftists are to blame? See, this is why no real American can stand you people.


Don't blame the victims for what the bullies do...

If you fuckwits don't stop trying to dismantle the Bill of Rights through activist reinterpretations, people will have nothing to lose and they'll literally take your heads off.

I have a question for you. If you were waving a Blue Lives Matter flag at a big rally in DC, which branch of law enforcement would you want to beat first? FBI, Capitol Police, etc?
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.
To answer the worst list question

1 and 2) Reagan and Trump - Why - Reagan set in motion the Thirdworldization of the US
Trump is the most recent deep descent.

3) Bush 43 - The Reagan enabled step between Reagan and Banana repukelicanizm Trump.
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.
To answer the worst list question

1 and 2) Reagan and Trump - Why Reagan set in motion the Thirdworldization of the US
Trump is the most recent deep descent.

3) Bush 43 - The Reagan enabled step between Reagan and Banana repukelicanizm Trump.

Is that so?

Well let's see you back that with Trump policies and show how it was "thirdworldization" of the US.
 

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But my own assessment is - you guys have had worse presidents than him
List? With analysis.

You dont even know what Trump did and when anyone wastes their time telling you, you just stomp your feet and blather about how its lies.

You are selfish, smug prick. You dont give a single shit about people.
Oh, how clever - moar I know you are but what am I bs (majorfuckineyeroll smiley).
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.
 

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But my own assessment is - you guys have had worse presidents than him
List? With analysis.

You dont even know what Trump did and when anyone wastes their time telling you, you just stomp your feet and blather about how its lies.

You are selfish, smug prick. You dont give a single shit about people.
Oh, how clever - moar I know you are but what am I bs (majorfuckineyeroll smiley).

About as clever as you responding to people when they back their point by calling them "disgusting pigs", "liars" and then yelling troll when you are asked to back yours?
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

My word was "horrific"

It was Bush and Obama that paved the way for Trump.
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.
So are you.
There, now everyone is even again.

Oh but wait - THAT"S theCOMMUNISMZ !
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.
 

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Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq
No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?
Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.
So are you.
There, now everyone is even again.

Oh but wait - THAT"S theCOMMUNISMZ !

Why dont you go ahead and back your bullshit claim that Trump was "thirdworlding" the US?

Show a fucking policy. Do you know what those are?