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[Lily]

Good post Lily

Thank you. We live in a time where people mistake their opinions for reality, no matter how skewed their reality.

 

[Dove]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

 

[Holliday Unchained]

to back yours?

Back what?
Axe an y'allz shall receive.

 

[Lily]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

Good for you. I'm sorry. I hope that is the worst of your regrets in life and you haven't had more serious and personal regrets than a vote.

 

[Dove]

Good post Lily

Thank you. We live in a time where people mistake their opinions for reality, no matter how skewed their reality.

Let me guess......that applies only to those you disagree with?

I hate Obama because he fucked healthcare, and bombed the fuck out of other countries. I guess if you enjoy war and bloodshed or just dont care about it..... you could dismiss the opinions of those who oppose it.

 

[Dove]

to back yours?

Back what?
Axe an y'allz shall receive.

Maybe read that whole post?

Should I condense my posts to sentence fragments so you can follow them?

 

[Holliday Unchained]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

So are you.
There, now everyone is even again.

Oh but wait - THAT"S theCOMMUNISMZ !

Why dont you go ahead and back your bullshit claim that Trump was "thirdworlding" the US?

Show a fucking policy. Do you know what those are?

Well, he's much like Bolsonaro, is he not?

Tell me how he isn't.

 

[Lily]

Good post Lily

Thank you. We live in a time where people mistake their opinions for reality, no matter how skewed their reality.

Let me guess......that applies only to those you disagree with?

I hate Obama because he fucked healthcare, and bombed the fuck out of other countries. I guess if you enjoy war and bloodshed or just dont care about it..... you could dismiss the opinions of those who oppose it.

A skewed reality? No, we've all had times in our life when we've deluded ourselves.

Healthcare has been a disaster in this country for decades. He didn't "fuck" anything that hadn't already been ridden harder than a "stripper" in Vegas.

When did this discussion become about war? You don't know my opinions about it. You're trying to put words in my mouth without knowing one thing about what I believe. Why?

 

[Dove]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

Good for you. I'm sorry. I hope that is the worst of your regrets in life and you haven't had more serious and personal regrets than a vote.

Fortunately we are on a sub forum dedicated to politics, so the posts in this subforum are about politics.

I'm not sure how you turn my comment about deeply regretting my vote for Obama into that.. but there are sub forums here where we can discuss our nonpolitical regrets.

 

[Holliday Unchained]

to back yours?

Back what?
Axe an y'allz shall receive.

Maybe read that whole post?

Should I condense my posts to sentence fragments so you can follow them?

Please stop the troll farm stock reply cut and paste bullshit.

Shit - I'm still waiting for you to complete the simple task of tracing the biblical connection between the commandments and the US constitution you argued existed on SG for 3 days without proof.

LoLz at you, retard.

 

[Lily]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

Good for you. I'm sorry. I hope that is the worst of your regrets in life and you haven't had more serious and personal regrets than a vote.

Fortunately we are on a sub forum dedicated to politics, so the posts in this subforum are about politics.

I'm not sure how you turn my comment about deeply regretting my vote for Obama into that.. but there are sub forums here where we can discuss our nonpolitical regrets.

Regrets are regrets. I didn't realize I had to go to a special forum for my comments Are you like a boss here or something?

 

[Dove]

Good post Lily

Thank you. We live in a time where people mistake their opinions for reality, no matter how skewed their reality.

Let me guess......that applies only to those you disagree with?

I hate Obama because he fucked healthcare, and bombed the fuck out of other countries. I guess if you enjoy war and bloodshed or just dont care about it..... you could dismiss the opinions of those who oppose it.

A skewed reality? No, we've all had times in our life when we've deluded ourselves.

Healthcare has been a disaster in this country for decades. He didn't "fuck" anything that hadn't already been ridden harder than a "stripper" in Vegas.

When did this discussion become about war? You don't know my opinions about it. You're trying to put words in my mouth without knowing one thing about what I believe. Why?

Ahhhhhh so you are privileged enough to have not experience the absolutely fuckery of Obama care.

How lovely you didnt go broke because you not only couldn't afford health care, but couldnt afford the fine for not being able to afford it, either

It was much LESS screwed up BEFORE him.

I see you want to gas light now. You are stuck on repeating about opinions and how they are not reality. Attempting to invalidate opinions you dislike.

So I'm telling you directly how I formed my opinion. I didnt say you said anything about war. I clearly said I oppose war and bloodshed. Hence why I have the opinion that lying war mongers like Obama suck.

People form opinions on what they see. They are not "deluded" based on whether or not YOU like it.

Maybe have an open mind and ask people WHY they have their opinions. You aren't going to inspire anyone to vote for your cause with a smug sanctimonious attitude and invalidating the opinions of others. This is something those who Democrats or leftists cannot grasp.

If you are gonna spin and gaslight this exchange can end.

 

[Holliday Unchained]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

Good for you. I'm sorry. I hope that is the worst of your regrets in life and you haven't had more serious and personal regrets than a vote.

Fortunately we are on a sub forum dedicated to politics, so the posts in this subforum are about politics.

I'm not sure how you turn my comment about deeply regretting my vote for Obama into that.. but there are sub forums here where we can discuss our nonpolitical regrets.

You could have just used the White Flag emoji and spared all-a-them werdz.

 

[Dove]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

Good for you. I'm sorry. I hope that is the worst of your regrets in life and you haven't had more serious and personal regrets than a vote.

Fortunately we are on a sub forum dedicated to politics, so the posts in this subforum are about politics.

I'm not sure how you turn my comment about deeply regretting my vote for Obama into that.. but there are sub forums here where we can discuss our nonpolitical regrets.

You could have just used the White Flag emoji and spared all-a-them werdz.

I could have, but I chose to help her out.

She seems confused on the subforum topic.

Can you provide policies from Trump that support your wackjob claim that he was turning the country into a 3rd world? Or is this where you start throwing your drool at the keyboard?

 

[Lily]

Good post Lily

Thank you. We live in a time where people mistake their opinions for reality, no matter how skewed their reality.

Let me guess......that applies only to those you disagree with?

I hate Obama because he fucked healthcare, and bombed the fuck out of other countries. I guess if you enjoy war and bloodshed or just dont care about it..... you could dismiss the opinions of those who oppose it.

A skewed reality? No, we've all had times in our life when we've deluded ourselves.

Healthcare has been a disaster in this country for decades. He didn't "fuck" anything that hadn't already been ridden harder than a "stripper" in Vegas.

When did this discussion become about war? You don't know my opinions about it. You're trying to put words in my mouth without knowing one thing about what I believe. Why?

Ahhhhhh so you are privileged enough to have not experience the absolutely fuckery of Obama care.

How lovely you didnt go broke because you not only couldn't afford health care, but couldnt afford the fine for not being able to afford it, either

It was much LESS screwed up BEFORE him.

I see you want to gas light now. You are stuck on repeating about opinions and how they are not reality. Attempting to invalidate opinions you dislike.

So I'm telling you directly how I formed my opinion. I didnt say you said anything about war. I clearly said I oppose war and bloodshed. Hence why I have the opinion that lying war mongers like Obama suck.

People form opinions on what they see. They are not "deluded" based on whether or not YOU like it.

I'm not invalidating your opinion. I disagree with it.

Now, people often choose to "see" what they choose. I don't care what you base your opinion on about Obama. It's still an opinion, full stop.

 

[Lily]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

Good for you. I'm sorry. I hope that is the worst of your regrets in life and you haven't had more serious and personal regrets than a vote.

Fortunately we are on a sub forum dedicated to politics, so the posts in this subforum are about politics.

I'm not sure how you turn my comment about deeply regretting my vote for Obama into that.. but there are sub forums here where we can discuss our nonpolitical regrets.

You could have just used the White Flag emoji and spared all-a-them werdz.

I could have, but I chose to help her out.

She seems confused on the subforum topic.

Can you provide policies from Trump that support your wackjob claim that he was turning the country into a 3rd world? Or is this where you start throwing your drool at the keyboard?

I'm not confused. I found your comment about deeply regretting your vote to be over the top, dramatic perhaps. It's my opinion that deep regrets hit far closer to home.

 

[Holliday Unchained]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

Good for you. I'm sorry. I hope that is the worst of your regrets in life and you haven't had more serious and personal regrets than a vote.

Fortunately we are on a sub forum dedicated to politics, so the posts in this subforum are about politics.

I'm not sure how you turn my comment about deeply regretting my vote for Obama into that.. but there are sub forums here where we can discuss our nonpolitical regrets.

You could have just used the White Flag emoji and spared all-a-them werdz.

I could have, but I chose to help her out.

She seems confused on the subforum topic.

Can you provide policies from Trump that support your wackjob claim that he was turning the country into a 3rd world? Or is this where you start throwing your drool at the keyboard?

How does demonizing the free press, open elections and egalitarianism, promoting cronyism and street violence equate to 3rd werldizm ? - fuck if I know.

OH, and PS: You still haven't supported your ridiculous claim that I agree with cons on anything.

 

[Dove]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

Good for you. I'm sorry. I hope that is the worst of your regrets in life and you haven't had more serious and personal regrets than a vote.

Fortunately we are on a sub forum dedicated to politics, so the posts in this subforum are about politics.

I'm not sure how you turn my comment about deeply regretting my vote for Obama into that.. but there are sub forums here where we can discuss our nonpolitical regrets.

You could have just used the White Flag emoji and spared all-a-them werdz.

I could have, but I chose to help her out.

She seems confused on the subforum topic.

Can you provide policies from Trump that support your wackjob claim that he was turning the country into a 3rd world? Or is this where you start throwing your drool at the keyboard?

How does demonizing the free press, open elections and egalitarianism, promoting cronyism and street violence equate to 3rd werldizm ? - fuck if I know.

OH, and PS: You still haven't supported your ridiculous claim that I agree with cons on anything.

1. You mean calling the corporate media out on actual bullshit?

Let me ask you something. Have you ever actually listened to the other side? Because I can literally break down EACH lie from the media, cite it, and show how it's either a flat out lie or distortion.....and cite the fact that shows it.

What you call the "free press" is corporate owned propaganda arm that has been pumping pure bullshit for years now that benefits the politicains THEY want. Dont get mad at those of us who put in our due diligence when you obviously havent. I don't need to rely on insults and attitude. I can BACK what I'm saying.

2. Show me actual POLICY that he promoted cronyism. If you failed to notice? All the wealthy and corps and establishment politicains who benefit from cronyism HATE him.

I'll start that party right with the SALT cap. That BIDEN got rid of, so now the wealthy can benefit from tax breaks again.

3. I didnt say you agreed with "cons". I said you agreed with ME. I have told you, on several occasions, that I'm NOT conservative. Its YOUR continued ignorance insisting on calling everyone who doesnt support the political class a "con".

 

[Joe]

But my own assessment is - you guys have had worse presidents than him

List? With analysis.

George W Bush was your worst President...of all time.

Reasons:

1) Inherited the largest budgetary surplus in US history and squndered within a mere 8 years - turning it into a $2 trillion defict. That alone should have put him on trial and thrown into Sing Sing . Where did all the money go? Who stole it? Who benefited from it? Most sensible nations would have launched an Investigation into that administration's finances.

2. Iraq War - an illegal War of plunder started, carried out and started by George W. Bush in which thousands of American soldiers lay down their lives and died needlessly for selfish corporate interest, outright lies and misguided geopolitical strategy. This effectively makes W Bush War a criminal. Most sensible natios would have put such an individual on trial

3. 911 fiasco in which a proper investigation has never been conducted and swept under the rug. How do any of those buildings fall in perfectly straighlt vertical lines with supposedly irregualr explosive forces affecting them wihin such a short period when the best forensic engineers have determined this was impossible.

4. Suspension of Civil Liberties based on a false premies and huge violations/rollbacks of US civil liberties which also resulted in the loss of them worldwide.

5) The Bush years destroyed an entire generation and society of Americans from which it has not recovered. Yeah, send you r country off to war where thousands of them get maimed or killed then see how that affects their social development and how it divides a country like it did yours in 2020. That was Bush's legacy.

This was a truly evil man as well as his equally henchman Dick Cheney for which neither has paid for those crimes.

They should both be given the Mussolini treatment and strung up by their heels like cattle.

...Yes Trump may have been bad and broken laws, but he wasn't nearly as bad as those 2.

In W Bush/Cheney, you had 2 war criminals as your President/VP.

 

[Dove]

But my own assessment is - you guys have had worse presidents than him

List? With analysis.

George W Bush was your worst President...of all time.

Reasons:

1) Inherited the largest budgetary surplus in US history and squndered within a mere 8 years - turning it into a $2 trillion defict. That alone should have put him on trial and thrown into Sing Sing . Where did all the money go? Who stole it? Who benefited from it? Most sensible nations would have launched an Investigation into that administration's finances.

2. Iraq War - an illegal War of plundered started, carried out and started by George W. Bush in which thousands of American soldiers lay down their lives and died needlessly for selfish corporate interest and outright lies and misguided beopolitica strategy. This effectively makes W Bush War criminal. Most sensible natios would have put such an individual on trial

3. 911 fiasco in which a proper investigation has never been conducted and swept under the rug. How do any of those buildings fall perfectly straighlt vertical lines with supposedly irregualr explosive forces affecting them wihin such a short period when the best forensic engineers have determined this was impossible.

4. Suspension of Civil Liberties ba

5) The Bush years destroyed an entire generation and society of Americans from which it has not recovered. Yeah, send you country off to war where thousands of them get maimed or killed then see how that affects their social development and how it divides a country like it did yours in 2020. That was Bush's legacy.

sed on a false premies and huge violations/rllbacks of US civil liberties which also resulted in the loss of them worldwide.

This was a truly evil man as well as his equally henchman Dick Cheney for which neither has paid for those crimes.

They should both be given the Mussolini treatment and strung up by their heels like cattle.

...Yes Trump may have been bad and broken laws, but he wasn't nearly as bad as those 2.

In W Bush/Cheney, you had 2 war criminals as your President/VP.

Amen.

Though I disagree that Trump was bad and broke laws. He just stepped on the toes of the ruling class.

Funny how these guys agree with Bush now.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

Interesting thing about Americans, they didn't even seem to care that W Bush started an illegal War in Iraq

No really? Seriously Yusuf, were yer head under water in 2001?

Fatso was the worst by miles

For sure, Trump was an aberation, but his rise was largely made possible by Bush.

The social instabily7 brought about by the Bush years destabilized the USA and set it backwards to a point it may never recover.

Dont forget the horrific Obama administration

These assholes dont get it and dont want to. They go for their intellectually lazy shallow bullshit.

It's not a fact that Obama was the worst of Presidents. It's an opinion, which of course you're most welcome to have and even share. It doesn't mean much more than that.

It's an absolute fact.

Obama was a smug liar who actively worked against the working class.

They all work for the ruling class. That still doesn't make him the worst. The worst Democrat, in terms of the working and impoverished classes, still might be Bill Clinton.

I didnt say he was the worst. I said he was awful.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I know. And I can back my opinion. I'm far from the only one that has. Obama was a vote I deeply regretted.

Good for you. I'm sorry. I hope that is the worst of your regrets in life and you haven't had more serious and personal regrets than a vote.

Fortunately we are on a sub forum dedicated to politics, so the posts in this subforum are about politics.

I'm not sure how you turn my comment about deeply regretting my vote for Obama into that.. but there are sub forums here where we can discuss our nonpolitical regrets.

You could have just used the White Flag emoji and spared all-a-them werdz.

I could have, but I chose to help her out.

She seems confused on the subforum topic.

Can you provide policies from Trump that support your wackjob claim that he was turning the country into a 3rd world? Or is this where you start throwing your drool at the keyboard?

I'm not confused. I found your comment about deeply regretting your vote to be over the top, dramatic perhaps. It's my opinion that deep regrets hit far closer to home.

Are you one of holligheys? Do you know each other I mean...

 

[Dove]

 

[Holliday Unchained]

But my own assessment is - you guys have had worse presidents than him

List? With analysis.

George W Bush was your worst President...of all time.

Reasons:

1) Inherited the largest budgetary surplus in US history and squndered within a mere 8 years - turning it into a $2 trillion defict. That alone should have put him on trial and thrown into Sing Sing . Where did all the money go? Who stole it? Who benefited from it? Most sensible nations would have launched an Investigation into that administration's finances.

2. Iraq War - an illegal War of plundered started, carried out and started by George W. Bush in which thousands of American soldiers lay down their lives and died needlessly for selfish corporate interest and outright lies and misguided beopolitica strategy. This effectively makes W Bush War criminal. Most sensible natios would have put such an individual on trial

3. 911 fiasco in which a proper investigation has never been conducted and swept under the rug. How do any of those buildings fall perfectly straighlt vertical lines with supposedly irregualr explosive forces affecting them wihin such a short period when the best forensic engineers have determined this was impossible.

4. Suspension of Civil Liberties ba

5) The Bush years destroyed an entire generation and society of Americans from which it has not recovered. Yeah, send you country off to war where thousands of them get maimed or killed then see how that affects their social development and how it divides a country like it did yours in 2020. That was Bush's legacy.

sed on a false premies and huge violations/rllbacks of US civil liberties which also resulted in the loss of them worldwide.

This was a truly evil man as well as his equally henchman Dick Cheney for which neither has paid for those crimes.

They should both be given the Mussolini treatment and strung up by their heels like cattle.

...Yes Trump may have been bad and broken laws, but he wasn't nearly as bad as those 2.

In W Bush/Cheney, you had 2 war criminals as your President/VP.

Amen.

Though I disagree that Trump was bad and broke laws. He just stepped on the toes of the ruling class.

Yep - he is your lord and master who does no wrong.

You brainless dumbass - he is the ruling class.

 

[Joe]

But my own assessment is - you guys have had worse presidents than him

List? With analysis.

George W Bush was your worst President...of all time.

Reasons:

1) Inherited the largest budgetary surplus in US history and squndered within a mere 8 years - turning it into a $2 trillion defict. That alone should have put him on trial and thrown into Sing Sing . Where did all the money go? Who stole it? Who benefited from it? Most sensible nations would have launched an Investigation into that administration's finances.

2. Iraq War - an illegal War of plundered started, carried out and started by George W. Bush in which thousands of American soldiers lay down their lives and died needlessly for selfish corporate interest and outright lies and misguided beopolitica strategy. This effectively makes W Bush War criminal. Most sensible natios would have put such an individual on trial

3. 911 fiasco in which a proper investigation has never been conducted and swept under the rug. How do any of those buildings fall perfectly straighlt vertical lines with supposedly irregualr explosive forces affecting them wihin such a short period when the best forensic engineers have determined this was impossible.

4. Suspension of Civil Liberties ba

5) The Bush years destroyed an entire generation and society of Americans from which it has not recovered. Yeah, send you country off to war where thousands of them get maimed or killed then see how that affects their social development and how it divides a country like it did yours in 2020. That was Bush's legacy.

sed on a false premies and huge violations/rllbacks of US civil liberties which also resulted in the loss of them worldwide.

This was a truly evil man as well as his equally henchman Dick Cheney for which neither has paid for those crimes.

They should both be given the Mussolini treatment and strung up by their heels like cattle.

...Yes Trump may have been bad and broken laws, but he wasn't nearly as bad as those 2.

In W Bush/Cheney, you had 2 war criminals as your President/VP.

Amen.

Though I disagree that Trump was bad and broke laws. He just stepped on the toes of the ruling class.

Funny how these guys agree with Bush now.

If Trump broke laws, then his transgressions were trifling compared with Bush.

Tho clumsy, oafish and inexperienced, Trump wanted to disengage the US from foreign wars in the Middle East. He was the first to make an effort pull out which Biden ahs followed through with his pledge to get out of Afghanistan.

Trump destroyed and vanquished ISIS, for which the world was begging the USA to step in a save them.
Many countries always point the US as the Bad Guy, but in tihis instance they were the good guy & Trump carried out the wishes of the world, which was getting hammered by ISIS. Especially Europe which couldn't break their evil spell but required the USA's military might to do it for them.

ISIS was thre direct result of Bush's meddling in Iraq. If he hadn't invaded, there were neveer would have been an ISIS or a need for the Obama and Trump administrations to declare war on them. So that was a mes which they inhrited that they had to clean up.

 

[Holliday Unchained]

Trump destroyed and vanquished ISIS, for which the world was begging the USA to step in a save them.

WoW - could you give me your scholarly dissertation on political islam, and a lil something on the reaction to the wealthy by the lesser to do?

I'm totally fascinated by your insights into world politics an the psychology behind it.

 

[Joe]

Trump destroyed and vanquished ISIS, for which the world was begging the USA to step in a save them.

WoW - could you give me your scholarly dissertation on political islam, and a lil something on the reaction to the wealthy by the lesser to do?

I'm totally fascinated by your insights into world politics an the psychology behind it.

Well, I give Obama credit too.

His declaration on the ISIS state may have severely weakened them and Trump finished them off.

But in the case of either, the existence of ISIS was not their fault.

It was Bushs', not Trump's nor Obama's.

 

[Lokmar]

You know what I'm okay with?
I'm okay with every eligible voter being able to vote, which is what a democracy is about.
It isn't about finding ways to prevent people from voting so a minority can rule.


"People who consider themselves liberals or atheists tend to have higher IQs than those who are more religious or conservative, a new study suggests.

Higher IQs also seem to make men less likely to cheat. Men with higher IQs place a higher value on sexual fidelity than men with lower IQs, although the same association with intelligence and monogamy was not found in women, according to the study."

Now I find this very interesting. Obviously conservatives are mentally and emotionally stunted people,
it's part and parcel of the definition
but see the part there that equates infidelity with low IQ (not mentioning any names here)
well that correlates with study after study that find conservatives (Repukes) more liable to cheat than Liberals. Quite telling.

You were ok with stealing the 2020 and any other election for democRATs.

 

[Lokmar]

Trump won the 2020 election no matter how "well" democRATs cheated.

Even if that's true, you and the crowd you support are at fault too, Lokmeer

because you bitch and whine about the final result and yet are refuse to advocate electoral reform or at least admit that the US election system is a mess.

Virtually no other Western democracy bitches about the final result because they have national election systems which handle the count, not individual states which make up 50 different laws for a presidential election.

Liar. I'm all for making elections legitimate again by requiring in person voting ONLY! Fuk yourself, josephine!

 

[Holliday Unchained]

Trump destroyed and vanquished ISIS, for which the world was begging the USA to step in a save them.

WoW - could you give me your scholarly dissertation on political islam, and a lil something on the reaction to the wealthy by the lesser to do?

I'm totally fascinated by your insights into world politics an the psychology behind it.

Well, I give Obama credit too.

His declaration on the ISIS state may have severely weakened them and Trump finished them off.

But in the case of either, the existence of ISIS was not their fault.

It was Bushs', not Trump's nor Obama's.

It's their shitty fucking religion and the fact that the people of the region can not find a way to liberalize,
which is to say evolve socially and spiritually. They are radical conservatives and will perish if they choose
to remain as they are - much as American cons will.

 

[Holliday Unchained]

You know what I'm okay with?
I'm okay with every eligible voter being able to vote, which is what a democracy is about.
It isn't about finding ways to prevent people from voting so a minority can rule.


"People who consider themselves liberals or atheists tend to have higher IQs than those who are more religious or conservative, a new study suggests.

Higher IQs also seem to make men less likely to cheat. Men with higher IQs place a higher value on sexual fidelity than men with lower IQs, although the same association with intelligence and monogamy was not found in women, according to the study."

Now I find this very interesting. Obviously conservatives are mentally and emotionally stunted people,
it's part and parcel of the definition
but see the part there that equates infidelity with low IQ (not mentioning any names here)
well that correlates with study after study that find conservatives (Repukes) more liable to cheat than Liberals. Quite telling.

You were ok with stealing the 2020 and any other election for democRATs.

Oh - You gave me a PWn'Ty. Thanks - I like knowing who the PWn'T fags are.