Do you believe in god?

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According to you, sure.
Everything’s right until you KNOW it’s wrong...

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There. Now you know you were wrong. :P
Nope... That article is just “hearsay”... I’m still right...

If that article is just hearsay, how can you be right? Revealed religion is no less hearsay. If hearsay is wrong from Sagan -- by your own standard -- then it follows that it's wrong from the primitive sky fairy worshippers, as well. ;)

Now, if your standard for which is right boils down to your faith, rather than logic, that's fine. But you can't reasonably expect to persuade anybody with that.
 

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According to you, sure.
Everything’s right until you KNOW it’s wrong...

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There. Now you know you were wrong. :P
Nope... That article is just “hearsay”... I’m still right...

If that article is just hearsay, how can you be right? Revealed religion is no less hearsay. If hearsay is wrong from Sagan -- by your own standard -- then it follows that it's wrong from the primitive sky fairy worshippers, as well. ;)

Now, if your standard for which is right boils down to your faith, rather than logic, that's fine. But you can't reasonably expect to persuade anybody with that.
I’ll take you seriously when you prove god doesn’t exist... Until then... ok
 

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I’ll take you seriously when you prove god doesn’t exist...

You really aren't the one in a position to take anyone seriously or not, until you figure out that it's not on anyone to prove that things don't exist.

To put it in simple terms -- god requires god proof. No requires no proof.

But let's play the "prove it isn't / prove it doesn't" game.

You can't prove that I am not god. And since you can't prove that I'm not -- I am. And since I'm god, my word is Ultimate Truth. And my word is that god doesn't exist.

Now, then.
 

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I’ll take you seriously when you prove god doesn’t exist...

You really aren't the one in a position to take anyone seriously or not, until you figure out that it's not on anyone to prove that things don't exist.

But let's play the "prove it isn't / prove it doesn't" game.

You can't prove that I am not god. And since you can't prove that I'm not -- I am. And since I'm god, my word is Ultimate Truth. And my word is that god doesn't exist.

Now, then.
I can prove that if god does exist he/it/them wouldn’t be on an Internet forum boasting... So therefore you’re wasting time trying to “educate” moi.... d’accor?
 

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I’ll take you seriously when you prove god doesn’t exist...

You really aren't the one in a position to take anyone seriously or not, until you figure out that it's not on anyone to prove that things don't exist.

But let's play the "prove it isn't / prove it doesn't" game.

You can't prove that I am not god. And since you can't prove that I'm not -- I am. And since I'm god, my word is Ultimate Truth. And my word is that god doesn't exist.

Now, then.
I can prove that if god does exist he/it/them wouldn’t be on an Internet forum boasting... So therefore you’re wasting time trying to “educate” moi.... d’accor?

I can prove that it would -- it supposedly filled books and books with boasting about itself. So, absolutely, it would do the same with the internet.

Prove it wouldn't.
 

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Deep down, I think the "word" of religion is based on myth, mixed in with some truths... I believe in science for the most part... But I don't think it's stupid OR for stupid people.. I think it serves a purpose to control the masses and perhaps stops some from doing horrible things, that they may otherwise do... I'm happy there is something for people to believe in... especially for death and grieving..

Like I said, it depends on your experience, for me looking back I feel it was a form of abuse. I agree it’s good for some, maybe lonely people it’s their social life. I never had my own kids baptised, I left it up to them if they wanted to follow any religion, I believe a person should have a choice in the matter cos your no more born a plumber or a bricklayer or a Jew or Christian, life choices.
 

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See the circular momentum?

And that's why logical people don't believe in god.

Giving an atheist religion is a simple thing, all ya gotta do is put a couple of ya in a room with each other for a few hours and you'll be praying to God to let you out to get away from each other lol.
There's no Heaven or Hell, no God or Devil waiting to punish or reward us. There is however karma...

No. No, there isn't. There's no woo of any kind. Not the baked-brain sandbox kind, not the chakras and auras and karma kind, either. None of it. No Jeezis, no Yah-way, no Allaaaaah-lalalalalala shamalamadingdong. No Luke Skywalker, no Howdy-Doody. No Heaven, no hell, no sin.

Makes no difference if you try to be a good person because you don't wanna fry for eternity, or if you try to be a good person because you don't wanna get whammied by karma. They're both different ways of just playing possum to avoid some kind of cosmic ass whuppin' from one kind of boogeyman or another. Well, there's no cosmic ass whuppin'. There's no boogeyman. And being good because you're afraid there is? That's not being good for the sake of being a good person. Which means it isn't goodness at all.

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I won't lie though I do struggle with my beliefs from time to time but I do believe in God.
We all do, it's normal for intellignet people to wonder.
Watch though, expressing doubt is irresistable bait to an atheist who will seize the moment to stick their neurotic OCD prybar in there to get you to join them in the cold.
"oh, I smell doubt! Let's get in there and see if we can coax him away from his beliefs! Join us!" lol

Their motives don't seek to enlighten themselves or others, just to deny someone something they lack, to destroy. Flat earthers, they don't bother debating, because what's the point since there's no comfort factor to deny someone. Like affirmative action, if minorities can't add a foot of height to match that of the white man, they seek equality by chopping a foot off the white man. Misery loves company.

Their personalities tend to go beyond religion, they'll drone in your ear about who left the egg salad in the work fridge, stinking it up.. "I'm gonna put an anonymous note up on the fridge to shame them!" Lol.
The obsessive personality is enough to make the eyes roll out of your head.

Ever meet an atheist in real life that revealed themselves by attempting to show you the error of your ways, preach their spin at ya, inform you of your delusions and you being a simple sheep, etc, etc, etc. Nah, me neither, not even once! Their boisterous and arrogant "wisdom" comes strictly out of the fingertips rather than their lips.

Think about it, you can't throw a stone on the internet without hitting a dozen of 'em but rubbing elbows in real life, they're quieter than a dead mouse in a fucking graveyard.
 

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Atheists need to stop shoving their non-beliefs down peoples' throats and religious folks need to stop shoving their beliefs down peoples' throats.
 

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I won't lie though I do struggle with my beliefs from time to time but I do believe in God.
We all do, it's normal for intellignet people to wonder.
Watch though, expressing doubt is irresistable bait to an atheist who will seize the moment to stick their neurotic OCD prybar in there to get you to join them in the cold.
"oh, I smell doubt! Let's get in there and see if we can coax him away from his beliefs! Join us!" lol

Their motives don't seek to enlighten themselves or others, just to deny someone something they lack, to destroy. Flat earthers, they don't bother debating, because what's the point since there's no comfort factor to deny someone. Like affirmative action, if minorities can't add a foot of height to match that of the white man, they seek equality by chopping a foot off the white man. Misery loves company.

Their personalities tend to go beyond religion, they'll drone in your ear about who left the egg salad in the work fridge, stinking it up.. "I'm gonna put an anonymous note up on the fridge to shame them!" Lol.
The obsessive personality is enough to make the eyes roll out of your head.

Ever meet an atheist in real life that revealed themselves by attempting to show you the error of your ways, preach their spin at ya, inform you of your delusions and you being a simple sheep, etc, etc, etc. Nah, me neither, not even once! Their boisterous and arrogant "wisdom" comes strictly out of the fingertips rather than their lips.

Think about it, you can't throw a stone on the internet without hitting a dozen of 'em but rubbing elbows in real life, they're quieter than a dead mouse in a fucking graveyard.

You don't think you know atheists outside the internet? Go singing that "Jeeezis Jeeezis Jeeezis Jeeezis!" crap in the real world and watch how many eyes roll. Your brain has been conquered by the middle east. You might just as well go around singing, "Lalaaaaaaaa WHACKBUTT!" like the wipes-their-asses-with-their-hands camel-piss-drinking kiddie-fiddling Muslims. Believing in the middle eastern God makes you a race traitor. How's that for shaming?
 

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Here you go, white man and white woman -- here's your God:


I don’t get why you’re so keen to quash the god theory? I’ve watched countless videos on this subject and science cannot explain what created the universe.... Big Bang? There is no substance without creation and so on...
 

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Here you go, white man and white woman -- here's your God:


I don’t get why you’re so keen to quash the god theory?


Because it's stupid and lazy.

I’ve watched countless videos on this subject and science cannot explain what created the universe....

See? Stupid and lazy. "We don't have to explain it, we'll just say Santy Claus did it!" Stupid, lazy copout.

And again, why the middle eastern god? Why the fuck does the genocidal lunatic imaginary friend of genocidal lunatic baked-brain camel fuckers get free rent in your head? Why that stupid, self-contradictory god? Why not the gods of your people? They're cooler!

Like I've said repeatedly, I get why sorta-dimwitted people need to believe in an imaginary sky fairy, but why the middle eastern one? Why not... fuckin' Tony Stark, or something? Why not worship Tony Stark? He's a badass. If you're gonna worship and believe in some made up shit, why not worship and believe in cool made up shit?
 

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I won't lie though I do struggle with my beliefs from time to time but I do believe in God.
We all do, it's normal for intellignet people to wonder.
Watch though, expressing doubt is irresistable bait to an atheist who will seize the moment to stick their neurotic OCD prybar in there to get you to join them in the cold.
"oh, I smell doubt! Let's get in there and see if we can coax him away from his beliefs! Join us!" lol

Their motives don't seek to enlighten themselves or others, just to deny someone something they lack, to destroy. Flat earthers, they don't bother debating, because what's the point since there's no comfort factor to deny someone. Like affirmative action, if minorities can't add a foot of height to match that of the white man, they seek equality by chopping a foot off the white man. Misery loves company.

Their personalities tend to go beyond religion, they'll drone in your ear about who left the egg salad in the work fridge, stinking it up.. "I'm gonna put an anonymous note up on the fridge to shame them!" Lol.
The obsessive personality is enough to make the eyes roll out of your head.

Ever meet an atheist in real life that revealed themselves by attempting to show you the error of your ways, preach their spin at ya, inform you of your delusions and you being a simple sheep, etc, etc, etc. Nah, me neither, not even once! Their boisterous and arrogant "wisdom" comes strictly out of the fingertips rather than their lips.

Think about it, you can't throw a stone on the internet without hitting a dozen of 'em but rubbing elbows in real life, they're quieter than a dead mouse in a fucking graveyard.

You don't think you know atheists outside the internet? Go singing that "Jeeezis Jeeezis Jeeezis Jeeezis!" crap in the real world and watch how many eyes roll. Your brain has been conquered by the middle east. You might just as well go around singing, "Lalaaaaaaaa WHACKBUTT!" like the wipes-their-asses-with-their-hands camel-piss-drinking kiddie-fiddling Muslims. Believing in the middle eastern God makes you a race traitor. How's that for shaming?
My question is why do atheists attack Christians more than Muslims? You compare Christians to Muslims only to prove that religion itself can be harmful and violent. Islam causes war yes. But look how blessed USA was at one time and still is. It was founded on the Bible and our fore fathers were Christians.
 

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And yet, people still fall for it. Not even skeptically or grudgingly, like, "Oh, all right, durrr..." But enthusiastically, like, "DURRRR, MUTHA FUCKAAAAZ!"

Boggles the mind.

I mean, I don't care if this sounds racist, but the Ned Flanders set isn't exactly rampaging around chopping the heads off dudes and burning women at the stake anymore -- so why aren't we white folks going back to our own silly-ass gods? I mean, ours are at least cool. If I was going to wholeheartedly adopt the delusion of people who never show up and don't really meaningfully help or hinder my life in any way, I'd much rather it be Odin, Thor, Freyr, Freyja, Aegir, Heimdallr and that whole crew. They at least have their own problems and for the most part mind their own business -- which is a way better excuse for why they never do shit for people than, "It'th jutht God'th plaaaaan!" What a lame cop-out that is.

Plus, they weren't invented by people wandering around in a desert who were obviously delirious from long-term hyperthermia, later to be modified by a gang of wops who threw shit out of their houses into the street, who then spread it to Britain by the sword.
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You're like the opposite of Joel Olsten LOL

Get a load of you making sense.. proof of God right there! BEHOLD!
But I'd say half that and half tin man, what with their constant squeaking as if they needed oil lol.
I won't lie though I do struggle with my beliefs from time to time but I do believe in God.
We all do, it's normal for intellignet people to wonder.
Watch though, expressing doubt is irresistable bait to an atheist who will seize the moment to stick their neurotic OCD prybar in there to get you to join them in the cold.
"oh, I smell doubt! Let's get in there and see if we can coax him away from his beliefs! Join us!" lol

Their motives don't seek to enlighten themselves or others, just to deny someone something they lack, to destroy. Flat earthers, they don't bother debating, because what's the point since there's no comfort factor to deny someone. Like affirmative action, if minorities can't add a foot of height to match that of the white man, they seek equality by chopping a foot off the white man. Misery loves company.

Their personalities tend to go beyond religion, they'll drone in your ear about who left the egg salad in the work fridge, stinking it up.. "I'm gonna put an anonymous note up on the fridge to shame them!" Lol.
The obsessive personality is enough to make the eyes roll out of your head.

Ever meet an atheist in real life that revealed themselves by attempting to show you the error of your ways, preach their spin at ya, inform you of your delusions and you being a simple sheep, etc, etc, etc. Nah, me neither, not even once! Their boisterous and arrogant "wisdom" comes strictly out of the fingertips rather than their lips.

Think about it, you can't throw a stone on the internet without hitting a dozen of 'em but rubbing elbows in real life, they're quieter than a dead mouse in a fucking graveyard.

You don't think you know atheists outside the internet? Go singing that "Jeeezis Jeeezis Jeeezis Jeeezis!" crap in the real world and watch how many eyes roll. Your brain has been conquered by the middle east. You might just as well go around singing, "Lalaaaaaaaa WHACKBUTT!" like the wipes-their-asses-with-their-hands camel-piss-drinking kiddie-fiddling Muslims. Believing in the middle eastern God makes you a race traitor. How's that for shaming?

Of course they're also outside the internet and that's my whole point.
And the middle eastern god/race traitor logic? To be honest, it's a big stretch for a weak pay off and I'm feeling no shame lol.
 

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Here you go, white man and white woman -- here's your God:


I don’t get why you’re so keen to quash the god theory?


Because it's stupid and lazy.

I’ve watched countless videos on this subject and science cannot explain what created the universe....

See? Stupid and lazy. "We don't have to explain it, we'll just say Santy Claus did it!" Stupid, lazy copout.

And again, why the middle eastern god? Why the fuck does the genocidal lunatic imaginary friend of genocidal lunatic baked-brain camel fuckers get free rent in your head? Why that stupid, self-contradictory god? Why not the gods of your people? They're cooler!

Like I've said repeatedly, I get why sorta-dimwitted people need to believe in an imaginary sky fairy, but why the middle eastern one? Why not... fuckin' Tony Stark, or something? Why not worship Tony Stark? He's a badass. If you're gonna worship and believe in some made up shit, why not worship and believe in cool made up shit?

I never said I believe in god I just would rather the notion was quashed if it isn’t true...