American workers are finally telling the 1% to shove it

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So, how's ole biden gonna cure this ? by upping the minimum wage to 15.00 an hour?

that's cute, only, when adjusted for the current rise in hyperinflation puts these people pretty much right back where they were when they were making 10.00 bucks an hour

duh, you libtards are so fucking stupid it's baffling.

Yet I think places like MacDonalds should allow their workers to receive tips Bigly.

Those tips could make up for much of the shortfall of their employees. That would allow the workers to get $15 and possibly more. I'd tip a Macdonalds worker if the option was available.

It's absolutely cruel how places like MacDonalds and Burger King don't allow their workers that much. It wouldn't even cost them anything.

I wonder if it's because their ceos wouldnt get a share of the tips? So they wanna deny their workers that privilege?

Even Starbucks allows their employees to collect tips ffs.
My tip to a McDonalds Employee: "Get the fuck outta here!"
 

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The gap between upper and middle class is widening. Something needs to be done, but it is much more complicated than what this guy is presenting. He simplifies things way too much. At times he might be dumbing it down for his audience, but sometimes he says things that are just flat out wrong; which means he is either ignorant or dishonest.

Too many of the changes that people are promoting will not hurt the elite, but will hurt the middle class.
 

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Yet I think places like MacDonalds should allow their workers to receive tips Bigly.

Joe, how much do you tip if you go to a fairly nice restaurant (say $50/per person for a meal and two drinks)?

Poor service:

Decent Service:

Good Service:

Excellent Service:
 

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The government meddles where it shouldnt and seldom uses tariffs to protect American jobs. This global warming hoaxology is gonna really fuck over the middle class. $15/hr minimum wage was a subject for a decade ago. We're long past that now.
 

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I'm glad that these shithole employers can't find minimum wage slaves to work on-call for minimum wage, with uncertain hours.

The Market will dictate their wages, and maybe the wages aren't quite good enough for a kid to drop out of school during the day to work a job that's apparently something they should be doing, instead of going to school...
 

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Yet I think places like MacDonalds should allow their workers to receive tips Bigly.

Joe, how much do you tip if you go to a fairly nice restaurant (say $50/per person for a meal and two drinks)?

Poor service:

Decent Service:

Good Service:

Excellent Service:

The standard is about 15%.

I'm just making the point for even low end joints like MacDonalds, just tip something.
a quarter, a dollar, $2?

So if a 100 people do that for them in a shift, gives them extra spending money.

Starbucks allows tips and know every time I give a dollar or two in the tip jar, they really appreciate ot.

and I notice every time I come back, they smile and they try harder.

Seems that most people don't tip in those places.

But I do.

Actually I've noticed that in Macdonald's, sometimes the service is very good and fast and I get exactly what I want.

so...if these people provide fast or faster service than a high end restaurant and deliver what's expected of them...why shouldn't they get a tip?

Why does MacDonald's insist that these people don't get a tip? They should.

They deserve more than $10 an hour if they deliver.

And if MacDonald's can't make that wage shortfall up for them, then they should allow the customer to do it for them.

Optional of course, but just whatever the customer decides. Every bit helps these people.

Makes a much happier employee.

and a happier worker makes a happier customer.
 

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You don't tip for counter service. I am doing all the work and I already paid for the sandwich so no extra service was rendered ergo no tip is deserved. Tips are reserved for service above and beyond simply handing me the goods I purchased.
 

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Yet I think places like MacDonalds should allow their workers to receive tips Bigly.

Joe, how much do you tip if you go to a fairly nice restaurant (say $50/per person for a meal and two drinks)?

Poor service:

Decent Service:

Good Service:

Excellent Service:

The standard is about 15%.

I'm just making the point for even low end joints like MacDonalds, just tip something.
a quarter, a dollar, $2?

So if a 100 people do that for them in a shift, gives them extra spending money.

Starbucks allows tips and know every time I give a dollar or two in the tip jar, they really appreciate ot.

and I notice every time I come back, they smile and they try harder.

Seems that most people don't tip in those places.

But I do.

Actually I've noticed that in Macdonald's, sometimes the service is very good and fast and I get exactly what I want.

so...if these people provide fast or faster service than a high end restaurant and deliver what's expected of them...why shouldn't they get a tip?

Why does MacDonald's insist that these people don't get a tip? They should.

They deserve more than $10 an hour if they deliver.

And if MacDonald's can't make that wage shortfall up for them, then they should allow the customer to do it for them.

Optional of course, but just whatever the customer decides. Every bit helps these people.

Makes a much happier employee.

and a happier worker makes a happier customer.

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"Tips are not accepted as McDonald's restaurants have a team environment which is not about rewarding individuals. If a customer would like to make a donation then they can do so in the RMHC boxes. "


That is the official answer but I think there might be more to it. They might want customers to save their money and buy more food. Or they might not want customers to feel an undue pressure to tip the employees.

Any energy spent on trying to get McPukes corporate to change their "no tip" policy is wasted, IMO. If the gap between the upper class and the middle class continues to widen, the patrons of McPukes will not have enough money to tip.
 

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Yet I think places like MacDonalds should allow their workers to receive tips Bigly.

Joe, how much do you tip if you go to a fairly nice restaurant (say $50/per person for a meal and two drinks)?

Poor service:

Decent Service:

Good Service:

Excellent Service:

The standard is about 15%.

I'm just making the point for even low end joints like MacDonalds, just tip something.
a quarter, a dollar, $2?

So if a 100 people do that for them in a shift, gives them extra spending money.

Starbucks allows tips and know every time I give a dollar or two in the tip jar, they really appreciate ot.

and I notice every time I come back, they smile and they try harder.

Seems that most people don't tip in those places.

But I do.

Actually I've noticed that in Macdonald's, sometimes the service is very good and fast and I get exactly what I want.

so...if these people provide fast or faster service than a high end restaurant and deliver what's expected of them...why shouldn't they get a tip?

Why does MacDonald's insist that these people don't get a tip? They should.

They deserve more than $10 an hour if they deliver.

And if MacDonald's can't make that wage shortfall up for them, then they should allow the customer to do it for them.

Optional of course, but just whatever the customer decides. Every bit helps these people.

Makes a much happier employee.

and a happier worker makes a happier customer.

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"Tips are not accepted as McDonald's restaurants have a team environment which is not about rewarding individuals. If a customer would like to make a donation then they can do so in the RMHC boxes. "

That is the official answer but I think there might be more to it. They might want customers to save their money and buy more food. Or they might not want customers to feel an undue pressure to tip the employees.

Any energy spent on trying to get McPukes corporate to change their "no tip" policy is wasted, IMO. If the gap between the upper class and the middle class continues to widen, the patrons of McPukes will not have enough money to tip.

Well...if you're going on about wealth disparity, that's how to draw the attention to the underpaid MacDonald's worker and actually give 'em something extra.

ie - this is how poorly some of their employees live



I mean..if Starbucks has a tip jar and actively encourages its customers to give the worker something, then why doesn't MacDonald's?

Another time, Just went into a Taco Bell , and the employees put out a tip jar for themselves.

I assume that it's also a no tip policy, but you could tell how desperate for some extra cash they were. They're essentially begging for every single dime they can get.

so give them something extra so they can eat more than rice and beans for dinner.
 

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The government meddles where it shouldnt and seldom uses tariffs to protect American jobs. This global warming hoaxology is gonna really fuck over the middle class. $15/hr minimum wage was a subject for a decade ago. We're long past that now.

Minimum wage is over $15 where I live, Lokmeer.

Australia it's like $20?

In Norway or Switzerland, a busboy makes more than an entry level office worker per hour in the United States.



And they get 4 weeks paid vacation in those countries too.




....and that's a minimum. Many get 8 weeks or more.

Ya'd think they'd be poorer for it, but Norway and Switzerland have the highest wages and per capita income of any White Western nation in the world.

Plus the deficits are much lower than either the USA or Canada.

I think before the Pandemic either country was registering budgetary surpluses year after year.

so...there's a a lotta corruption in our countries.

Clearly somebody at the top is taking way too much for themselves
 
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Of course, a far left former establishment lackey is leading the charge against teh 1 puuurcent....

Which demographic has a vastly disproportionate membership of the elite, Lotus?

I think it begins with J, but you always divert from the subject.

You're a nutter.

You're a shill.

Arguing facts with you is as pointless as trying to turn Aidsman straight.

I think Russel Brand is legit.

I disagree with some of his politcs. But i think he really cares about people. He is very open minded and will talk to anyone.

He has hosted Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens....and they were actual good discussions with mutual respect. Brand has a genuine kindness in him.

Of course I think he is hot AF so that might be a touch of lust talking lol. Nah he really does have a great vibe to him. And he knows how to get past peoples guards and put them at ease.

We dont really need everyone agreeing on everything......right now it's more than enough to put things to the side and come together with some mutual respect so we can get the power back from the elites.

I dont think he is leading the charge... .but he is providing a platform where people are coming together more and talking. He is one of the only leftists I'll listen to.

There are so many fucking establishment shills it's ridiculous.

I just remember the guy's outbursts online and in the media against right wingers and BNP supporters, back around 2010 when the party was making headway in the mainstream and actually had a chance of toppling the Tory/Labour monopoly. He was fully on board with the smear campaign orchestrated by the establishment.

He used to be a minor celebrity on TV and supposedly a comedian, although he's about as entertaining as a dose of AIDS in my opinion, so Just keep in mind his original loyalties and potential ties to elite types. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he is some kind of disinfo agent on the state payroll.
 

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Of course, a far left former establishment lackey is leading the charge against teh 1 puuurcent....

Which demographic has a vastly disproportionate membership of the elite, Lotus?

I think it begins with J, but you always divert from the subject.

You're a nutter.

You're a shill.

Arguing facts with you is as pointless as trying to turn Aidsman straight.

I think Russel Brand is legit.

I disagree with some of his politcs. But i think he really cares about people. He is very open minded and will talk to anyone.

He has hosted Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens....and they were actual good discussions with mutual respect. Brand has a genuine kindness in him.

Of course I think he is hot AF so that might be a touch of lust talking lol. Nah he really does have a great vibe to him. And he knows how to get past peoples guards and put them at ease.

We dont really need everyone agreeing on everything......right now it's more than enough to put things to the side and come together with some mutual respect so we can get the power back from the elites.

I dont think he is leading the charge... .but he is providing a platform where people are coming together more and talking. He is one of the only leftists I'll listen to.

There are so many fucking establishment shills it's ridiculous.

I just remember the guy's outbursts online and in the media against right wingers and BNP supporters, back around 2010 when the party was making headway in the mainstream and actually had a chance of toppling the Tory/Labour monopoly. He was fully on board with the smear campaign orchestrated by the establishment.

He used to be a minor celebrity on TV and supposedly a comedian, although he's about as entertaining as a dose of AIDS in my opinion, so Just keep in mind his original loyalties and potential ties to elite types. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he is some kind of disinfo agent on the state payroll.

How many weeks paid vacation do you or the typical worker get in England per year?
 

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Only 4 years of Trump and the American Proletariat wakes up and says, take your bullshit subsistence jobs and shove 'em!


He did teach one thing that anyone can adapt: You don't have to play by the rules.

You've certainly lived by that rule when it comes to dietary requirements.

Well, you certainly didn't follow societal rules have you? You know, get an education, vocational training or university education, job, wife and kids.

You are completely socially inept.

Yet, I'm still infinitely superior to you, in every way imaginable...

Not that it's difficult.

Cope and seethe, Poarkasaurus. Cope and seethe....
Out of idle curiousity or for a laugh whichever, would you list a few ways in which you feel you are "superior"

Really? Well, I'm younger, smarter, better looking, taller, in shape and likely live in a much nicer area than she does, considering the fact I don't live in a squalid, ngger-infested, crime-riddled, innercity American ghetto, with the sound of police sirens and gunshots ringing out every night.

Is that sufficient or would you like some more?
 

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Of course, a far left former establishment lackey is leading the charge against teh 1 puuurcent....

Which demographic has a vastly disproportionate membership of the elite, Lotus?

I think it begins with J, but you always divert from the subject.

You're a nutter.

You're a shill.

Arguing facts with you is as pointless as trying to turn Aidsman straight.

I think Russel Brand is legit.

I disagree with some of his politcs. But i think he really cares about people. He is very open minded and will talk to anyone.

He has hosted Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens....and they were actual good discussions with mutual respect. Brand has a genuine kindness in him.

Of course I think he is hot AF so that might be a touch of lust talking lol. Nah he really does have a great vibe to him. And he knows how to get past peoples guards and put them at ease.

We dont really need everyone agreeing on everything......right now it's more than enough to put things to the side and come together with some mutual respect so we can get the power back from the elites.

I dont think he is leading the charge... .but he is providing a platform where people are coming together more and talking. He is one of the only leftists I'll listen to.

There are so many fucking establishment shills it's ridiculous.

I just remember the guy's outbursts online and in the media against right wingers and BNP supporters, back around 2010 when the party was making headway in the mainstream and actually had a chance of toppling the Tory/Labour monopoly. He was fully on board with the smear campaign orchestrated by the establishment.

He used to be a minor celebrity on TV and supposedly a comedian, although he's about as entertaining as a dose of AIDS in my opinion, so Just keep in mind his original loyalties and potential ties to elite types. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he is some kind of disinfo agent on the state payroll.

How many weeks paid vacation do you or the typical worker get in England per year?

I think it works out at around 28 days or so.
 

Adam Hitler

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Of course, a far left former establishment lackey is leading the charge against teh 1 puuurcent....

Which demographic has a vastly disproportionate membership of the elite, Lotus?

I think it begins with J, but you always divert from the subject.

You're a nutter.

You're a shill.

Arguing facts with you is as pointless as trying to turn Aidsman straight.

Who am I shilling for?

Hmm, I dunno, Globohomo perhaps?

You know, the same cabal of faggots which have been instrumental in poisoning the mind of the white youth, with woke, SJW nonsense?

Take your Cultural Marxist rhetoric and bail to Israel.

You make no sense, Nazi Man.

Need to be spoonfed the point of my remark because you're not very bright?

Ok, you support CRT and woke leftist politics which the establishment promotes, along with the gradual racial replacement of whites due to record breaking levels of mass immigration.

You, along with most other leftists, are literally just useful idiots for the elites and behave like their attack dogs, spewing hate at anyone who dares to defy the establishment narrative.
 

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These "dead end jobs" are helping people live their lives ffs not everyone can grow their own food like Prussel is suggesting lmao
Places like McDonalds actually pay students a great wage on their journey to a career, get a managers position and you'll have a decent amount of desposable income...
 

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I mean..if Starbucks has a tip jar and actively encourages its customers to give the worker something, then why doesn't MacDonald's?

I already gave you what I thought might be their reasons.

Why ask the same question again?
 

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Places like McDonalds actually pay students a great wage on their journey to a career

This touches on a problem...

Some people are getting an education and they are not qualified for anything but a job at McPukes.

It used to be a job for kids in high school. Now college grads are working there and they expect to be paid a living wage.

It is a complex problem.
 

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Places like McDonalds actually pay students a great wage on their journey to a career

This touches on a problem...

Some people are getting an education and they are not qualified for anything but a job at McPukes.

It used to be a job for kids in high school. Now college grads are working there and they expect to be paid a living wage.

It is a complex problem.
How is it a "complex problem"?? Do you realise how much money and employment these giants generate? My only gripe with them is they should be paying people more money... Imagine a world with no McMuffin...
 

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Careful what you ask for. They get paid $15 per hour here and the cost of McDonald's easily doubled. Nothing in this world is free. Also the high minimum wage depresses new start ups in the restaurant sector because giant corporations can afford high wages but start ups often can't. It is an anticompetitive strategy large established companies use to decrease new competitors.

The net result? Higher prices and less competition and choices for consumers.
 

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Careful what you ask for. They get paid $15 per hour here and the cost of McDonald's easily doubled. Nothing in this world is free. Also the high minimum wage depresses new start ups in the restaurant sector because giant corporations can afford high wages but start ups often can't. It is an anticompetitive strategy large established companies use to decrease new competitors.

The net result? Higher prices and less competition and choices for consumers.
Yes I get that totally but they're an integral part of the world now, small business is NOT affected as much as you think... People like what they like and I only go to McDonalds for a tasty treat that I'm used to but if I want a sausage roll I'll go to an independant cafe etc etc...
 

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How is it a "complex problem"??

The entire system is broken. A 40 hour work week makes no sense with the technological advancements we have made. This has caused an excess of workers. With an excess of workers, jobs are in high demand and companies can pay less. People blame the companies, but their goal is to make profit. The middle class is being squeezed down into the lower class.

There are less good paying blue collar jobs like manufacturing jobs because of automation. That should be a good thing, but instead of using those workers in new, innovative ways, we have taken them and put them into jobs like working at McPukes - jobs that used to be filled by teenagers.

I am not even touching on the fact that 40 years ago people with a little less than average intelligence were steered into factory jobs and they were satisfied - even happy - but now, because there are less factory jobs, they are steered into college programs like Liberal Arts programs and when they graduate and wind up doing menial labour they resent it. A large percentage of the population being whiny and disgruntled is not a good thing. See: ANTIFA.

It is a complex problem. If you pay McPuke workers more, it will end up coming out of the customer's pockets. Those are the pockets of the low and middle class. It is self-defeating. If and when the fast food industry shrinks, it will be the lower class jobs that are lost.

The problem is not as simple as just paying fast food employees $15/hour. That will change nothing in the big picture and we are dealing with big picture problems.
 

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Of course, a far left former establishment lackey is leading the charge against teh 1 puuurcent....

Which demographic has a vastly disproportionate membership of the elite, Lotus?

I think it begins with J, but you always divert from the subject.

You're a nutter.

You're a shill.

Arguing facts with you is as pointless as trying to turn Aidsman straight.

Who am I shilling for?

Hmm, I dunno, Globohomo perhaps?

You know, the same cabal of faggots which have been instrumental in poisoning the mind of the white youth, with woke, SJW nonsense?

Take your Cultural Marxist rhetoric and bail to Israel.

You make no sense, Nazi Man.

Need to be spoonfed the point of my remark because you're not very bright?

Ok, you support CRT and woke leftist politics which the establishment promotes, along with the gradual racial replacement of whites due to record breaking levels of mass immigration.

You, along with most other leftists, are literally just useful idiots for the elites and behave like their attack dogs, spewing hate at anyone who dares to defy the establishment narrative.

Boom. But they wont hear ya.
 

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Of course, a far left former establishment lackey is leading the charge against teh 1 puuurcent....

Which demographic has a vastly disproportionate membership of the elite, Lotus?

I think it begins with J, but you always divert from the subject.

You're a nutter.

You're a shill.

Arguing facts with you is as pointless as trying to turn Aidsman straight.

I think Russel Brand is legit.

I disagree with some of his politcs. But i think he really cares about people. He is very open minded and will talk to anyone.

He has hosted Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens....and they were actual good discussions with mutual respect. Brand has a genuine kindness in him.

Of course I think he is hot AF so that might be a touch of lust talking lol. Nah he really does have a great vibe to him. And he knows how to get past peoples guards and put them at ease.

We dont really need everyone agreeing on everything......right now it's more than enough to put things to the side and come together with some mutual respect so we can get the power back from the elites.

I dont think he is leading the charge... .but he is providing a platform where people are coming together more and talking. He is one of the only leftists I'll listen to.

There are so many fucking establishment shills it's ridiculous.

I just remember the guy's outbursts online and in the media against right wingers and BNP supporters, back around 2010 when the party was making headway in the mainstream and actually had a chance of toppling the Tory/Labour monopoly. He was fully on board with the smear campaign orchestrated by the establishment.

He used to be a minor celebrity on TV and supposedly a comedian, although he's about as entertaining as a dose of AIDS in my opinion, so Just keep in mind his original loyalties and potential ties to elite types. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he is some kind of disinfo agent on the state payroll.

I know I know. The guy has grown quite a bit. Its refreshing.

Seriously go watch his show with Sharpiro or Owen's. You'll be impressed with him. I was.
 

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The government meddles where it shouldnt and seldom uses tariffs to protect American jobs. This global warming hoaxology is gonna really fuck over the middle class. $15/hr minimum wage was a subject for a decade ago. We're long past that now.


so...there's a a lotta corruption in our countries.

Clearly somebody at the top is taking way too much for themselves

YA THINK?!
 

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Yet I think places like MacDonalds should allow their workers to receive tips Bigly.

Joe, how much do you tip if you go to a fairly nice restaurant (say $50/per person for a meal and two drinks)?

Poor service:

Decent Service:

Good Service:

Excellent Service:

The standard is about 15%.

I'm just making the point for even low end joints like MacDonalds, just tip something.
a quarter, a dollar, $2?

So if a 100 people do that for them in a shift, gives them extra spending money.

Starbucks allows tips and know every time I give a dollar or two in the tip jar, they really appreciate ot.

and I notice every time I come back, they smile and they try harder.

Seems that most people don't tip in those places.

But I do.

Actually I've noticed that in Macdonald's, sometimes the service is very good and fast and I get exactly what I want.

so...if these people provide fast or faster service than a high end restaurant and deliver what's expected of them...why shouldn't they get a tip?

Why does MacDonald's insist that these people don't get a tip? They should.

They deserve more than $10 an hour if they deliver.

And if MacDonald's can't make that wage shortfall up for them, then they should allow the customer to do it for them.

Optional of course, but just whatever the customer decides. Every bit helps these people.

Makes a much happier employee.

and a happier worker makes a happier customer.

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"Tips are not accepted as McDonald's restaurants have a team environment which is not about rewarding individuals. If a customer would like to make a donation then they can do so in the RMHC boxes. "

That is the official answer but I think there might be more to it. They might want customers to save their money and buy more food. Or they might not want customers to feel an undue pressure to tip the employees.

Any energy spent on trying to get McPukes corporate to change their "no tip" policy is wasted, IMO. If the gap between the upper class and the middle class continues to widen, the patrons of McPukes will not have enough money to tip.

Well...if you're going on about wealth disparity, that's how to draw the attention to the underpaid MacDonald's worker and actually give 'em something extra.

ie - this is how poorly some of their employees live



I mean..if Starbucks has a tip jar and actively encourages its customers to give the worker something, then why doesn't MacDonald's?

Another time, Just went into a Taco Bell , and the employees put out a tip jar for themselves.

I assume that it's also a no tip policy, but you could tell how desperate for some extra cash they were. They're essentially begging for every single dime they can get.

so give them something extra so they can eat more than rice and beans for dinner.


And if she got some shitty dollar raise? Shed lose her sec 8, medicaid and half her food benefits and end up paying 40 a week childcare.

A raise would throw her into a shelter.

Nice eh?

That government "help" is a fucking trap. She lives in perpetual survival mode.
 

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Careful what you ask for. They get paid $15 per hour here and the cost of McDonald's easily doubled. Nothing in this world is free. Also the high minimum wage depresses new start ups in the restaurant sector because giant corporations can afford high wages but start ups often can't. It is an anticompetitive strategy large established companies use to decrease new competitors.

The net result? Higher prices and less competition and choices for consumers.
I disagree. $15/hr minimum wage is LESS than the $3.35/hr I made when I entered the workforce.