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Well, unlike you I’m not insane and blaming a political party (that I’ve ever been affiliated with or voted for) for putting a crack pipe or heroin needle in the hands of a mentally ill person.

Your blame game is childish.

When one political party enables widespread drug addiction and modifies the law so that drug addiction cannot be treated properly....why not call them out?
 

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It is not a theory. It is what judges, addiction experts, and police unions all say needs to be done. That is what we used to do until ignorant leftists turned it into a free for all causing the problem to grow vastly worse. You bastards literally caused this with your ignorant decriminalizition nonsense.

She didnt read it lol
 

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When one political party enables widespread drug addiction and modifies the law so that drug addiction cannot be treated properly....why not call them out?
Oo oooo I know the answer to this!

January 6th!!!!!!
 

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This is one of the more entertaining debates I've witnessed around here

Oerdin says: California is circling the drain due to state sanctioned lawlessness. The homeless hordes are costing billions in tax payer monies, business revune losses etc etc etc. We have to do something about that


And murdy, in her infinite wisdom counters with

You cannot lock them up as they would become a burden to the state!

Comedy gold!
 

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Now, let us start introducing some facts.


You again with these SciFi Red reptilian talking points! With your manufactured videos filmed in some underground republican strong hold bubble in Kansas somewhere.

It's all fictional you know. Drop me off in the middle of ground zero tomorrow and by God I will gauge my own eyes out because my eyes are lying spawns of Satan.

you must be a racist of some variant to be posting like this.
 

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Well, unlike you I’m not insane and blaming a political party (that I’ve ever been affiliated with or voted for) for putting a crack pipe or heroin needle in the hands of a mentally ill person.

Your blame game is childish.

Except democrats literally DID start handing out crack pipes(safe smoking kits) and needles. They also are doing "drug injection sites".

Not sure if it's in CA yet but they want to.

He is directly referencing POLICIES. Do you understand that politcal parties are not just cheer leading teams? They actually make and pass bills and policies that directly impact peoples lives? And that the issues you have in CA are directly and literally a result of policies passed by its leadership?

How the fuck is it "insane" to blame policies passed by the political party in charge who is passing them? That's their JOB.

Is it insane when the waiter brings your food to the table? Is it insane when you take your car to get fixed and they actually fix it? Is it insane when you order shit from Amazon and the UPS truck brings it?

Fucking hell.

Guys guys....the most insane shit happened to me the other day at the grocery store. They had food for sale!
 

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Do you understand that politcal parties are not just cheer leading teams? They actually make and pass bills and policies that directly impact peoples lives? And that the issues you have in CA are directly and literally a result of policies passed by its leadership?
I don't think she's made it that far in her Managing a lemonade stand for dummies course-ware yet.
 

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I guess you are right and it is far better to let them die by the thousands on the streets. Bno need to try anything different.

Why do they also double down on stupid? We had a good system which actually worked yet they will refuse to go back to it because they don't want to admit they were wrong which made things vastly worse.

We have never had a system that works for this. 1 in 5 Americans suffer from mental illness. Only 46% of them get treatment.

3 strikes is cruel and unusual when you consider the people who were sentenced to life for misdemeanor offenses. So, that’s not gonna work either.

As for your suggestion the homeless be left on the street to die… why should I care when they don’t and are simultaneously terrorizing our community? I am well aware of how many resources are available to them if they actually wanted the help.
 

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wait --did I just read that life sentences were being doled out for misdemeanor offenses?

what do you get for J walking? A smooth 7 to 10? Out in 5 for good behavior?

that's it, I'm logging off and puncturing my aorta artery

fuck all of you for bringing me to this sad threshold.
 

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When one political party enables widespread drug addiction and modifies the law so that drug addiction cannot be treated properly....why not call them out?

Its fucking insanity to hold politcal parties responsible for the policies they pass!

I've often said that dem/progs dont really seem to understand that the people they vote for actually do things that impact our lives directly. They are so scrambled by propaganda and they just do not understand how the government works.

You cant teach them either because they flip. They refuse to learn. It's their grand hero story and all they know is "dems good....other parties bad.....media says so!"
 

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The things I'm reading tonight

ROTFLMAO


We're sitting on millions in comedy here folks

I swear to fucking God.
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I guess you are right and it is far better to let them die by the thousands on the streets. No need to try anything different.

Why do they alwaye double down on stupid? We had a good system which actually worked yet they will refuse to go back to it because they don't want to admit they were wrong and made things vastly worse.

They dont really care.

When the party they like makes a problem vastly worse.....but not quite bad enough to really inconvenience them....they claim it was fucked up either way.

It's just apathy. They dont care about building a better and stronger country for ordinary people. It's entirely about seeing themselves as a the good guys and hating and demonizing everyone else.

Theyll ride this shit until it burns down and claim it was going to burn anyway. It's just hate and laziness.
 

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Don't run any red lights in California or you might get the death penalty

hold up a CVS at gunpoint instead -- they pretty cool with that
 

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wait --did I just read that life sentences were being doled out for misdemeanor offenses?

what do you get for J walking? A smooth 7 to 10? Out in 5 for good behavior?

that's it, I'm logging off and puncturing my aorta artery

fuck all of you for bringing me to this sad threshold.

And again drug addiction isnt a mental illness.

And yeah I'm trying to find a life sentence from a misdemeanor......not coming up with much LOL
 

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And again drug addiction isnt a mental illness.

And yeah I'm trying to find a life sentence from a misdemeanor......not coming up with much LOL
What misdemeanor crime might possibly qualify for such a fate?

I mean, is anything other than premeditated murder even a crime anymore at all in California?
 

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wait a moment

I got it -- there are crimes in California -- they're just a little more subtle than in more civilized areas of the world

hold up a Walgreens at gun point -- totally cool

Pull your pants down and defecate right there in the middle of the street -- why not.

Beat the snot out of an elderly woman on her way to the grocery store -- c'mon what's the hysteria about.

Refer to some dude in a dress with a thick spartan beard wrapped around his jawline as ""sir"" --- and man you better lawyer the fuck up.

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Murdock is so confused.

One second she tries to play the compassionate person, showing empathy for the "mentally ill" who commit crime...

The next second...

As for your suggestion the homeless be left on the street to die… why should I care when they don’t and are simultaneously terrorizing our community? I am well aware of how many resources are available to them if they actually wanted the help.

She says they are "terrorizing" her community and implies that does not care if they die...

She clearly does not want them to get better. She does not want them in jail because she thinks that would cost too much. She does not want them in treatment centres because she thinks that would cost too much.

What would you like Murdock? Gas chambers...?
 
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wait a moment

I got it -- there are crimes in California -- they're just a little more subtle than in more civilized areas of the world

hold up a Walgreens at gun point -- totally cool

Pull your pants down and defecate right there in the middle of the street -- why not.

Beat the snot out of an elderly woman on her way to the grocery store -- c'mon what's the hysteria about.

Refer to some dude in a dress with a thick spartan beard wrapped around his jawline as ""sir"" --- and man you better lawyer the fuck up.

:LOL3:

That is how they keep their crime stats down.
 

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When one political party enables widespread drug addiction and modifies the law so that drug addiction cannot be treated properly....why not call them out?
The only people who can enable an addict are the people around them. Consequences will not stop an addict from using.

I don’t agree with Oerdin that California made a mistake here because imprisonment only generates small marginal deterrence effects when the sentence is very lengthy to begin with.

It costs $106,000 to incarcerate someone for a year here. Do the math.
 

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Murdock is so confused.

One second she tries to play the compassionate person, showing empathy for the "mentally ill" who commit crime...

The next second...



She says they are "terrorizing" her community and implies that does not care if they die...

She clearly does not want them to get better. She does not want them in jail because she thinks that would cost too much. She does not want them in treatment centres because she thinks that would cost too much.

What would you like Murdock? Gas chambers...?
If I may sir?

I think obtaining all of Trump's tax returns would put an end to all human suffering worldwide

including the homeless crisis in California

Mighty fine people on that Jan 6th committee.
 

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That is how they keep their crime stats down.
that's what they did in NYC, Baltimore and Chicago. Decriminalized almost everything you could to break the law

and as their cities crumble around them they point to stats and say --see? It's right here in the numbers, crime is DOWN

Reminds me of that propaganda minister during the onset of the Iraqi war

or this guy

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Murdock is so confused.

One second she tries to play the compassionate person, showing empathy for the "mentally ill" who commit crime...

The next second...



She says they are "terrorizing" her community and implies that does not care if they die...

She clearly does not want them to get better. She does not want them in jail because she thinks that would cost too much. She does not want them in treatment centres because she thinks that would cost too much.

What would you like Murdock? Gas chambers...?

Actually, I think it’s a waste of tax payer dollars to force people to be rehabilitated in prison and my state, which is the richest in the nation, agrees with me.

The cost of in patient rehab on average is $6,000-$35,000

The cost of incarceration for 1 year is $106,000… which rehabilitating an inmate would require a 3-5 year sentence.

I’m just better at budget I guess lol

Plus no one wants rapists and murders released because a bunch of otherwise non-violent crack heads are taking up prison space.
 
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I think I get where murdock is coming from on this one


We need to set up a commission - a 10 year one - to exam what needs to be examined before we go ahead and audit the results of what we find.

Then. After 20 years of doing absolutely nothing at a cost of billions to tax payers we can examine the report we produced to determine what we should do next

You know. So we don’t unduly burden the state with nonsensical spending
 

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Sad you can’t afford it. Maws mobile home… Home sweet home, right Stubby?
 

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Two people literally just explained the point.

If they are court ordered and its enforced they have to complete a program. And A LOT of people recover that way.

Under what is being done NOW? It's made the problem vastly WORSE. Now people are just openly using on the streets. They dont have any incentive to stay in treatment long enough to make a clear decision.

Talking to people who are just thinking about what they are gonna say next and not hearing shit.
I guess you are right and it is far better to let them die by the thousands on the streets. No need to try anything different.

Why do they alwaye double down on stupid? We had a good system which actually worked yet they will refuse to go back to it because they don't want to admit they were wrong and made things vastly worse.


They did it in my city... cops put out high grade heroin on the streets and the junkies overdosed... They killed 75 junkies and the crime rate vanished but that was about 20 yrs ago... They need to do it again.