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"This is still a country divided between the families of the enslaved and the slave traders," said Olabiyi Babalola Joseph Yai, a professor of history and linguistics who taught for years at the University of Florida and worked for UNESCO in Paris before returning to his native Benin. "But the elite don't want to talk about what happened here."

The caste system in India divides people. Pretty much like the 1619 project. So while I don't think there was a benefit to slavery, if we do a 180 and go 1619 project and teach kids that our system is inherently racist, the only "fact" is that people will be divided.

On the one hand we should not ignore history because slavery existed, but on the other hand we should not say our system is racist and whites are inherently racist and blacks are inherently lessor in the strata of society because omfg the fucking personal liberties some asshole took with their opinions to make this shit up defies the fact that without our individual freedoms, they wouldn't have the individual freedom to MALE UP THIS SHIT.

It's like they took puzzle pieces from the edge and jammed them into the middle and said it doesn't work. Um, no. You fucked up. YUO don't work. You aren't woke or factual or a social justice warrior. You are an upstart, look at me whining for spotlight attention whore craving bitch while fucking up a country as much as you claim Trump does because making people hate each other is pretty much not fucking cool you twat dangle.
Lily, not you a twat dangle but the 1619 originator(s) is/are twatdangle(s).

For them to say the system is inherently racist would be like me saying we should teach kids that if europeans never settled America and formed the United States, then the Nazis would win and no Jew would exist today.

THAT'S NOT FACTS. THAT IS ONE OPINION FROM ONE PERSON.

I don't know what your race is. I will assume white because of 60% of Americans are Caucasian. Will you acknowledge that others, let's say indigenous people, may have a different experience than you?
 

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I don't know what your race is. I will assume white because of 60% of Americans are Caucasian. Will you acknowledge that others, let's say indigenous people, may have a different experience than you?
I have red hair. I have freckles. I wore glasses as a kid. Jesus H, if I didn't lose my baby fat and had not been height/weight proportionate then I would argue I was probably bullied as much as indigenous people.

Let's get real. Racism is bullying but bullying specific to RACE.

It's making fun of someone who looks different. Period.
 

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I have red hair. I have freckles. I wore glasses as a kid. Jesus H, if I didn't lose my baby fat and had not been height/weight proportionate then I would argue I was probably bullied as much as indigenous people.

Let's get real. Racism is bullying but bullying specific to RACE.

It's making fun of someone who looks different. Period.

It also costs people employment, housing, and loans...

I had a friend, of many years, who went to a job interview. She's nordic in appearance and culturally, first generation American. One parent born in Denmark, the other in Norway. As she finished up her interview, the guy tells her "Well, you don't have to worry about affirmative action here."

She is conservative politically. Always was, but we bonded over other things that we did have in common. I listened to her tell the story while laughing and asking me "Isn't that great?" Now, for her, personally I can see that it was great. It gave her a leg up. I realized she was so unaware of what she was telling me, somehow, I was in on it, see? I should think it's great too. I simply said, "You think so, hmm?" She answered "yes". I let it go. How was I going to convince someone so out of touch. I wasn't. I did ask her if everyone she'd met or seen walking into the company's floor was Caucasian (HR, panelists). She said, I think so...but I didn't meet everyone.

What he said to her was, in my opinion, we don't hire non-Whites. Could I prove that? No. But there is no reason that should come up in an interview. This happened in the early 2000s.

No, it's not the same as being a ginger, who despite the discrimination they seem to face from other white people, can be quite attractive, imo. I don't see being a ginger in the same universe as being black or brown surrounded by an often hostile culture.
 
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Here's an image of a perfectly normal way to go about your day in America (if you're a racist pig that is). This is from last week in Denver, CO.

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Here's an image of a perfectly normal way to go about your day in America (if you're a racist pig that is). This is from last week in Denver, CO.

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She's wearing a mud mask. Why do you instantly jump to the conclusion that she's making fun of negros?

Oh wait! You're a racist, hate-filled cunt.

never mind.
 

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She's wearing a mud mask. Why do you instantly jump to the conclusion that she's making fun of negros?

Oh wait! You're a racist, hate-filled cunt.

never mind.

No, she's not. Someone called her out for wearing "blackface" telling her she was horrible...she called the other woman "horrible" then went on a Gay Pride Target merchandise rant.

You are INVENTING a situation.


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No, she's not. Someone called her out for wearing "blackface" telling her she was horrible...she called the other woman "horrible" then went on a Gay Pride Target merchandise rant.

You are INVENTING a situation.


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No. You're racially obsessed and filed with hatred towards people YOU perceive as "white racists," which is funny since you're a white girl who pretends to be an oppressed BIPOC.

The perception is yours. The racial hate is yours. You're a hater.
 

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No. You're racially obsessed and filed with hatred towards people YOU perceive as "white racists," which is funny since you're a white girl who pretends to be an oppressed BIPOC.

The perception is yours. The racial hate is yours. You're a hater.

Hey dumbass, this is a thread about race.
 

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It also costs people employment, housing, and loans...

I had a friend, of many years, who went to a job interview. She's nordic in appearance and culturally, first generation American. One parent born in Denmark, the other in Norway. As she finished up her interview, the guy tells her "Well, you don't have to worry about affirmative action here."

She is conservative politically. Always was, but we bonded over other things that we did have in common. I listened to her tell the story while laughing and asking me "Isn't that great?" Now, for her, personally I can see that it was great. It gave her a leg up. I realized she was so unaware of what she was telling me, somehow, I was in on it, see? I should think it's great too. I simply said, "You think so, hmm?" She answered "yes". I let it go. How was I going to convince someone so out of touch. I wasn't. I did ask her if everyone she'd met or seen walking into the company's floor was Caucasian (HR, panelists). She said, I think so...but I didn't meet everyone.

What he said to her, in my opinion, we don't hire non-Whites. Could I prove that? No. But there is no reason that should come up in an interview. This happened in the early 2000s.

No, it's not the same as being a ginger, who despite the discrimination they seem to face from other white people, can be quite attractive, imo. I don't see being a ginger in the same universe as being black or brown surrounded by an often hostile culture.

The company I work for no longer does face to face interviews. You get on a website, fill out some stuff and then come to orientation. No physical test. There is a background check. Unless you have an accident that costs more than several hundred dollars in damage, you will never even have a drug test.

The result is the company can be considered non-bias because they hire people blindly. Also they pay less money for new hires because no drug test. Companies are like people because they are run by people. They will overcome and adapt to surroundings. You want a Diversity, Equity, Inlusion score, they will give you that, in spades.

Safety is down because blindly hiring people and keeping them around based upon their diversity > safety of everyone else in their path.

We have a person on the safety team who destroys product and puts everyone else in danger because of their diversity.

But I guess if I am to die, then I should celebrate this person's inclusion, rather than question why the ever living fuck were they entrusted to run machinery when they care more about pronouns than life itself?

Can you feel my disontent? As much as you fight for the hopes of others, I fight to simply remain alive. As much as I appreciate your fight for them, I am somewhat lacking in your not understanding a reason to fight as much for my point of view?

Is a living minority worth more than a dead majority in your eyes?

If so then I will be back with a Law & Order rebuttal to knock your fucking socks OFF.
 

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We have a person on the safety team who destroys product and puts everyone else in danger because of their diversity.

You know dumbasses come in every color, height, weight, etc, correct? How is he dangerous because of his "diversity"?

"Is a living minority worth more than a dead majority in your eyes?"

I think this is a serious question on your part. However, I can't take it seriously because it's nonsensical.

If you want to knock my socks off with a rebuttal, be prepared to work harder buddy, you have no idea how easily I can poke holes in your screeds.
 
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This system of racial domination the extreme right is trying to force feed us along with their Christianity will continue to plague the political arena with tension and antagonism over the next few decades.
 

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You know dumbasses come in every color, height, weight, etc, correct? How is he dangerous because of his "diversity"?

"Is a living minority worth more than a dead majority in your eyes?"

I think this is a serious question on your part. However, I can't take it seriously because it's nonsensical.

If you want to knock my socks off with a rebuttal, be prepared to work harder buddy, you have no idea how easily I can poke holes in your screeds.


Life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness. Notice.. life comes first. Without life, there can be no other.

Remember what Killmonger said in Black Panther? Something to the effect it is better to jump from ships than live in bondage?

Death is eternal. Bondage is something one can endure until freedom is achieved.


For all our failures in the present day we have no slavery. And so for all your wokeness & social justice warrioring, know that fighting to preserve life far exceeds your frail attempts to battle at wits end to allow the simple act of a trans getting employment.

You may go forth and say, "Ok Boomer", and yet the Boomer saved lives from death.

All you ever did is save lives from unwelcome pronouns.

If your eyes really work, do they even see at this point?
 

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Life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness. Notice.. life comes first. Without life, there can be no other.

Remember what Killmonger said in Black Panther? Something to the effect it is better to jump from ships than live in bondage?

Death is eternal. Bondage is something one can endure until freedom is achieved.


For all our failures in the present day we have no slavery. And so for all your wokeness & social justice warrioring, know that fighting to preserve life far exceeds your frail attempts to battle at wits end to allow the simple act of a trans getting employment.

You may go forth and say, "Ok Boomer", and yet the Boomer saved lives from death.

All you ever did is save lives from unwelcome pronouns.

If your eyes really work, do they even see at this point?


Are you seriously going to use some Hollywood writer's script to debate me?

:OhGawd:
 

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Are you seriously going to use some Hollywood writer's script to debate me?

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People are people. Those who paint are inspired by what they see. Those who compose music are inspired by what they hear. Those who script are inspired by the world at large.

The one thing that connects us all us life. We are alive. As people who are alive we can fight for ourselves.

I choose to fight for a woman in her own sport ala Riley Gaines, while you choose to fight for a mob accosting her because you want her to acquiesce. You who are "woke", want a woman to secede her accomplishments rather than embrace the power inherent in all that is woman to predelict that which is man in an ongoing pretense of femininty.

The Hollywood writers are stilll on strike. But I remain. A stumbling block to your discourse. I am inspired by past events but rest assured my future path blazes free of any supposed detriment to which you may allude.

Nice try tho...
 

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People are people. Those who paint are inspired by what they see. Those who compose music are inspired by what they hear. Those who script are inspired by the world at large.

The one thing that connects us all us life. We are alive. As people who are alive we can fight for ourselves.

I choose to fight for a woman in her own sport ala Riley Gaines, while you choose to fight for a mob accosting her because you want her to acquiesce. You who are "woke", want a woman to secede her accomplishments rather than embrace the power inherent in all that is woman to predelict that which is man in an ongoing pretense of femininty.

The Hollywood writers are stilll on strike. But I remain. A stumbling block to your discourse. I am inspired by past events but rest assured my future path blazes free of any supposed detriment to which you may allude.

Nice try tho...

You have made nothing but ASSumptions about me while not querying me about anything. You can keep spewing whatever you find online to me, but it doesn't mean that you and I are having an actual discussion.
 

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You have made nothing but ASSumptions about me while not querying me about anything. You can keep spewing whatever you find online to me, but it doesn't mean that you and I are having an actual discussion.
My dear I am a mirror. I will reflect your front, echo your visage, then question your inner demons. I have them too. The braggadocious have no doubts. But we endlessley question ourselves. Because thoughtfulness is a virtue of a higher allegory. We think not to disparage, but to enlighten. Our progressive nature binds us to this just cause.

You think I am a brute. And as 'Troy' speculates you could have forgiven a dumb brute but my metre is a definition is a metronome noncalculatable by singular provenance.
 

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My dear I am a mirror. I will reflect your front, echo your visage, then question your inner demons. I have them too. The braggadocious have no doubts. But we endlessley question ourselves. Because thoughtfulness is a virtue of a higher allegory. We think not to disparage, but to enlighten. Our progressive nature binds us to this just cause.

You think I am a brute. And as 'Troy' speculates you could have forgiven a dumb brute but my metre is a definition is a metronome noncalculatable by singular provenance.

Put a cork in it. You're a bloviating gasbag. You haven't seen a damn thing. You're spewing assumptions and idiocy.