Interesting analysis of the Kirk hit

Lily

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1948 vs 9/11/2001.

Land taken from lives is never justification for lives taken from lands.

A mlliion arabs relocated to create Israel is never justification for three thousand lives extinguished forever.

Life relocated can continue. Life ended is snuffed forever.

Which is the wost injustice if we are standing against injustice?

How can you compare the two? It was Saudis that carried out that attack, first of all. Second, we (the US) suck Saudi cock and have for years.

As awful as 9/11 was (and it was horrific)...more people died in the forcible removal of Palestinians.
 

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How can you compare the two? It was Saudis that carried out that attack, first of all. Second, we (the US) suck Saudi cock and have for years.

As awful as 9/11 was (and it was horrific)...more people died in the forcible removal of Palestinians.
Not to be a pesty factualist, but many many Jews were removed from what became the artificially contrived muslim states as well. Jews, Zoroastrians, Baha'i Faith people, Sikhs and Christians continue to be persecuted where they have not been forced out of muslim seized land.
 
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Not to be a pesty factualist, but many many Jews were removed from what became the artificially contrived muslim states as well. Jews, Zoroastrians, Baha'i Faith people, Sikhs and Christians continue to be persecuted where they have not been forced out of muslim seized land.
*sigh*

Keep moving the goal posts.

This is why we can't have nice conversations here...
 

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*sigh*

Keep moving the goal posts.

This is why we can't have nice conversations here...
Pardon, these are facts which I have brought up before multiple times.
. I guess all I want to say in nutshell is that islam sucks and needs to be destroyed so humanity can move forward.
Same applies to all radical conservative movements such as fascism and MAGAism, and just in the interst of making the dogs howl, I will add commieism.
. Well, it's game day, so let's root our teams on to victory.

Oh and PS: Jews are palestinians. Muslims are invader colonizers. That's just indisputable history.
 

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Of course you support colonial settlers coming in and taking shit from the people that lived there, it's our entire country, for fuck's sakes.

I don't support nor condone it. I acknowledge it as an evolutionary reality in the history of our world. And none of us were there for it so we can't change it. Like our own birth & our own death... it is inevitable.

A.I. is telling me the population of indigenous people in the western hemisphere before discovery was 60 million.

It also says 90% died from diseases introduced. And currently there are about 50 million indigenous people today.

So this tells me people died from people moving around... which people always did since they could. And the population rebounded.

Funny thing is when I ask google A.I. about successful attempts to fight off colonialism... it mentions the U.SA. because the UK was the colonial power we fought in the Revolutionary War. But somehow now we are all in bed with the colonial powers that allowed our ancestors here if only to do so to pay monies back to them before gaining our own independence. "Die a hero, (explorers) or live long enough to become a villian("colonizers")."

"The world has turned & left me here." - Weezer

Should I stay here as a settler to be moved so my ancestors can claim grievances upon explorers who moved me? Or should I move to become a grievance to the ancestors of settlers who were forced fo move by me being an explorer? If you chose life is too short for this shit, you win indefinitely.

Or did my point have more layers than a scrumptious tiramisu?


I wonder did the indigenous people who came here... were they just looking for a better life like our ancestors? Looking to not be under the thumb of others... like our ancestors? More space? Less competition? (Oh those goddamned pre capitalist thinking capitalists not even realizing). Looking to not work hard to just give it all to their ruling class? Looking for freedom of religion from religion being the law of the land? So how are we all different if we all either moved or settled? Skin tone? Not gonna cut it debate-wise. This is the nature of humanity. Not an evil racially motivated genocidal plot.

And the nations like Ethiopia that fought off colonial settlements. Are they better off today? Are they worse? Or are they just different... neither better nor worse? Neither xenophobic nor multicultural... but a product of the past that already came to pass?

So you never answered where post WWII Jews should go?

If all Jews have to move from Israel because they lost their majority indigenous status from pre-1948 and all people not indigineous in our entire western hemisphere of the world have to now relocate to appease the 50 million indigenous people then so be it.

Where are you moving to, Lily? I wanna be your old man neighbor telling your grandkids I'm keeping their ball once it's in my yard in between me yelling at clouds.

And I don't like Goodwill Hunting because white people anymore than Action Jackson is my fave kickass movie because black peeps & the classic scene that Carl Weathers gets all his street info from the lady at the barbershop.

I get all my street info from my barber too.