Again, Bernie simply tells it like it is

[The New Holliday]

I voted write-in with joke names as the write-in candidates. Neil B. Formi 2024

That's a very mature action....so typical of the undeveloped conservative type.

"Liberals" (who are invariably, remarkably, illiberal) want to fuck this country up. Conservatives want to make sure "liberals" fuck this country up slowly.

LoLz. if a person is illiberal then they are not a Liberal - they are a conservative. You are not a thinking type, are you?
Oh, and "up slowly". No...conservatives by definition wish to live in a static state, not one of any progress, fast or slow.
...Now, go stand in the corner with your dunce cap on and don't you even think about moving till I tell you.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

That's a very mature action....so typical of the undeveloped conservative type.

I get it. In your hyperpartisan mind, anyone who didn't vote for Cackles automatically had to have voted for Biff Tannen. Grow up.

LoLz. if a person is illiberal then they are not a Liberal - they are a conservative.

Or: The moderate left (while such a thing still existed) genuinely were liberal, but the illiberal fringe of the left appropriated the word and self-identified with it while spectacularly failing to live up to it.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Where would this country be without its melting pot of cultures?

You know what the fun thing about a melting pot is? Things melt in it. Ghettoization and balkanization aren't signs that the 'melting' is happening.

 

[Lily]

You know what the fun thing about a melting pot is? Things melt in it. Ghettoization and balkanization aren't signs that the 'melting' is happening.

 

[The Prowler]

Ghettoization and balkanization aren't signs that the 'melting' is happening.

They are cultural.

"Melting" does not mean that all aspects of cultures are lost.

Even in a big Melting Pot, there are solid chunks...not everything is a liquid.

 

[The New Holliday]

I get it. In your hyperpartisan mind, anyone who didn't vote for Cackles automatically had to have voted for Biff Tannen. Grow up.

Or: The moderate left (while such a thing still existed) genuinely were liberal, but the illiberal fringe of the left appropriated the word and self-identified with it while spectacularly failing to live up to it.

.You are a true idjit. I did not vote for Cackles or Biff. It was you who reacted personally to the lemmings being mentioned as if affronted when you might have agreed.
.Since judging by your posts you can not be of an age able to recall when there were Liberals in any numbers or of consequence politically it's understandable that you have no idea what you are saying or what are the meaning of werdz. For that you can be forgiven, and for not understanding that Liberal is not only or even primarily a political term.
I hope you have a very nice New Year. Stop by and we will share a toast to survivable days and times ahead.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

"Melting" does not mean that all aspects of cultures are lost.

No shit. What it means is that cultures blend. Nothing is lost, everything is added to the whole. Again: ghettoes, "no-go zones", and balkanization are not what happens when cultures blend.

 

[The New Holliday]

They are cultural.

"Melting" does not mean that all aspects of cultures are lost.

Even in a big Melting Pot, there are solid chunks...not everything is a liquid.

Like a big beef stew, with carrots and cabbage....and potatoes.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

It was you who reacted personally to the lemmings being mentioned as if affronted when you might have agreed.

Ad principium. A concept I see you still cannot or will not comprehend.

 

[Jack]

That in itself is an anomaly. America may have been conceived as a melting pot in its origin. It's certainly not "melting" at all. Some states are all or mostly white, where blacks/POC form the working class. It's not an echo, things haven't changed much since the Constitution was written. We've actually become somewhat divided. If it's a melting pot why is there such division?

 

[The Prowler]

No shit. What it means is that cultures blend. Nothing is lost, everything is added to the whole.

Do not have a temper tantrum. Try to discuss things like an adult.

Again: ghettoes, "no-go zones", and balkanization are not what happens when cultures blend.

Yes, they can happen because they are parts of other cultures.

Remember the "solid chunks"?

 

[Lily]

That in itself is an anomaly. America may have been conceived as a melting pot in its origin. It's certainly not "melting" at all. Some states are all or mostly white, where blacks form the working class. It's not an echo, things haven't changed much since the Constitution was written. We've actually become somewhat divided. If it's a melting pot where's the division?

It has been a melting pot for Europeans historically...so we have the "generic" Caucasian dominant culture. The rest.of us have all been "otherized".

The current divisions are class and politically based.

 

[The New Holliday]

That's a real dilemma for the lemmings

It's not a dilemma

Ad principium. A concept I see you still cannot or will not comprehend.

You could not simply agree that for the conservatard lemmings there is a dilemma - principle and self interest vs blind allegiance to the deity they worship? As I wrote - they will take the easy road. Why...because your partisan self can not criticize the conservative, but instead had to launch into an attack on "liberuhlz"?

"Liberals" (who are invariably, remarkably, illiberal) want to fuck this country up. Conservatives want to make sure "liberals" fuck this country up slowly.

So sad...
Please - return to the corner. I never said you could leave it.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

You could not simply agree that for the conservatard lemmings there is a dilemma - principle and self interest vs blind allegiance to the deity they worship? As I wrote - they will take the easy road. Why...

Because that's exactly what you do yourself, so that's the only thing you can envision anyone else doing.

So sad...
Please - return to the corner. I never said you could leave it.

I never fuckin' asked ya, you leaky bag of goat cum.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

The rest.of us have all been "otherized".

What an absolute bullshit mentality. You know how much shit Irish immigrants were put through in this country? Italians? Everybody got rough treatment.

Everybody "got otherized" -- not everybody put in the work to get past it.

 

[Murdy]

Like a big beef stew, with carrots and cabbage....and potatoes.

mmm now I’m hungry

 

[Murdy]

No shit. What it means is that cultures blend. Nothing is lost, everything is added to the whole. Again: ghettoes, "no-go zones", and balkanization are not what happens when cultures blend.

Are you woke or anti-woke?

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Are you woke or anti-woke?

Which one more closely aligns with "fed up with stupid-ass social trends that divide rather than unite"?

 

[Lily]

What an absolute bullshit mentality. You know how much shit Irish immigrants were put through in this country? Italians? Everybody got rough treatment.

Everybody "got otherized" -- not everybody put in the work to get past it.

Sure, but the Irish were indentured never enslaved. The first immigration law was written against.the Chinese. Indigenous people lost their lands.

Africans were enslaved and stripped of their cultures and languages, never mind their freedom.

WASPs moved into the Southwest, to my ancestral ho, promised loyalty to New Spain and then Mexico, pledged to become Catholic and learn Spanish...then eventually wrested the Southwest from Mexico because they made slavery illegal in Mexico. Polk and the Southerners wanted more slave states...no, we were not all treated the same!

 

[The Prowler]

Which one more closely aligns with "fed up with stupid-ass social trends that divide rather than unite"?

That would be "Anti-woke."

Fuck, you are stupid.

 

[The New Holliday]

Because that's exactly what you do yourself, so that's the only thing you can envision anyone else doing.

LoLz -

Why...because your partisan self can not criticize the conservative, but instead had to launch into an attack on "liberuhlz"?

Is your whole game accusing other people of what you yourself are guilty of in the absence of any credible evidence, and lametarded NO YOU!s?
You are pathetic, dude. So pathetic I am beginning to wonder if you are an Altardicus duel.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Sure, but the Irish were indentured never enslaved. The first immigration law was written against.the Chinese. Indigenous people lost their lands.

Africans were enslaved and stripped of their cultures and languages.

WASPs moved into the Southwest, to my ancestral ho, promised loyalty to New Spain and then Mexico, pledged to become Catholic and learn Spanish...then eventually wrested the Southwest from Mexico because they made slavery illegal in Mexico. Polk and the Southerners wanted more slave states...no, we were not all treated the same!

Whites were a favorite slave stock of the Barbary Pirates (Muslims). Africans were enslaved by other Africans, then sold to Europeans. "Your ancestral ho" was lost in a war -- and then Mexico got paid for the conquered territory even so.

Everybody had it rough. That some people today insist on clutching their ancestors' grievances for comfort and benefit is on no one but them.

 

[The Prowler]

I am beginning to wonder if you are an Altardicus duel.

@jack and @Edgar Friendly are both suspects.

 

[Murdy]

Whites were a favorite slave stock of the Barbary Pirates (Muslims). Africans were enslaved by other Africans, then sold to Europeans. "Your ancestral ho" was lost in a war -- and then Mexico got paid for the conquered territory even so.

Everybody had it rough. That some people today insist on clutching their ancestors' grievances for comfort and benefit is on no one but them.

I think it’s mostly the feeling guilty for being whites who are pushing the reparations tbh.

So many of them cannot trace their lineages back to slavery due to lack of proper documentation and adequate birth records.

 

[Lily]

Whites were a favorite slave stock of the Barbary Pirates (Muslims). Africans were enslaved by other Africans, then sold to Europeans. "Your ancestral ho" was lost in a war -- and then Mexico got paid for the conquered territory even so.

Everybody had it rough. That some people today insist on clutching their ancestors' grievances for comfort and benefit is on no one but them.

We're talking about US history. Don't deflect. IDGAF what happened elsewhere in the context of our "melting pot", obfuscator.

 

[Murdy]

Which one more closely aligns with "fed up with stupid-ass social trends that divide rather than unite"?

I feel the same about it actually. I don’t perpetuate racism because I want it to end.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

We're talking about US history.

Yes, we are. And U.S. history is inextricably bound to world history. Because when the world comes here, the world brings world history with it.

Don't deflect. IDGAF what happened elsewhere in the context of our "melting pot", obfuscator.

If you DGAF about it, it's baffling that you brought it up.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I don't get that semantic? You're "allowed" to express your opinion freely no matter how distatsteful or inaccurate, but others shouldn't because you don't agree with them? I'm not talking about flaming or trolling here, but the exchange of opinions.

You used to be better than that.

No I wasn't. Ive always been great and incomparable, but I've never been above calling a moron an idiot on these boards ever.

 

[Jack]

No I wasn't. Ive always been great and incomparable, but I've never been above calling a moron an idiot on these boards ever.

That isn't the point at all. If this is a free speech board everyone gets to speak.

 

[The New Holliday]

but I've never been above calling a moron an idiot on these boards ever.

An example of the usual care and accuracy you build into every post.