I agree that they are targeting the baker. Those people are intent on hounding him out of business I'm sure.
Okay, so now we are on to something here.
They are hounding him out of business... persecuting him so to speak. And why? Because he's different than they are.
so when like minded people with a lot less self control than this guy hear about this story, get enraged and attack the nearest trans person they can find are they really attacking that person merely because that person is "different" or could it be that they are enraged and simply lashing out at the gross injustice of these people being able to use tax payer funded institutions as personal mercenaries to wage war against honest hard working people?
Regardless of one's feelings it's not okay to beat up anyone in a country where we abide the rule of law. It's a step way too far. No one is beating up the baker in any physical sense whatsoever.
Those are not the same.
We can agree on that.
But you assert they are being targeted simply because they are different and I am asserting that the average American, given all the pains of inflation and near financial devastation wouldn't be all too worried about what a person does with their own penis behind closed doors were it not for the fact that this agenda is being shoved down their throats in short order and more and more people are simply having enough of it.
perhaps a live and let live philosophy on both sides of aisle would bring us to a more favorable outcome?
I think he was targeted because they have been discriminated against. But when you deny someone services you are not living and letting live.
You're saying, these people can live and be treated as equal citizens in my store and you others cannot.
As a Latino, would you want someone turning you away simply because you're Latino? It's happened in this country before. How would you like that?
I will admit that I wouldn't like it.
Did he deny services tho or merely state that he could not use his talents in a manner inconsistent with his personal beliefs
as I read it he offered them a multitude of cakes, cookies and other items but simply drew the line where his conscience was offended
A distinction without a difference.
so you're saying he should be conscripted into service against his will in the favor of people who have made a choice to be a certain and you justify this with an example using an immutable characteristic like one's ethnicity to support your argument.
interesting
So if the idea that God himself was a homosexual in the trans community suddenly became a thing and they wanted this guy to write "jesus has a juicy asshole ripe for fucking" on a cake this guy should be forced to write that on a cake as well? Despite how he personally feels about it?
Do you know any gay people? They'd never put that on their cakes. It's tacky AF.
You're missing the point of course
and yes, I know gay people, but no I don't know what they would ever put or not put on a cake at some point in the near or distant future
30 years ago none of us thought there would be 86 genders... and yet, today, here we hare.
so please, do not presume you can predict the future. THat's a failed argument and we both know it.
I'm not predicting the future at all. I'm saying all these behaviors that concern you are outside of the norm for the vast majority in the gay community.
If they want to only serve a certain segment of the community, perhaps they need to close their storefront and then only bake for people that they decide to take on as customers.
I would look to exclusive organizations to find out how they accept new clients/members.
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They'd never put that on their cakes"
that sounds a lot like predicting an outcome to me. and the word "never" kinda lends itself to that whole predicting the future we discussed earlier.
How do you know what a grouping of people you don't personally identify with would or would not want to write on a cake?
To you and I splitting our tongue to look like a dragon would seem tacky as fuck. Discoloring our faces as well.. and so and forth
but there are people doing it
stick to the essence of the matter here, dear. That is, should a person of religious beliefs be forced to write something on a piece of paper or on a cake which is morally repulsive to him for the sake of inclusiveness when there are about a dozen other bakeries within a 5 mile radius which are capable of handling this request?
