Flynn

[Breakfall]

Drinking water fixes a hangover.

Are you actually trying to be nice for a change?

I’m nice all the time.

I have no clue wtf you were drinking, but 8oz of water to every 2oz of alcohol will keep you from getting hung over.

Hell, slam a gallon of water with a handful of ibuprofen before you sleep will stop a hangover. You might still be drunk when you wake up depending on how much you drank, but it beats being hung over.

wtf were you drinking?

I can't remember, anything I could get, vodka, beer, whiskey, wine... I was fucking killing myself quick...

You wernt “killing” yourself, you were just binge drinking the hard way.

I don’t think you are an alcoholic, if you were, you wouldn’t be here, you’d be drinking. As somebody who has bartended over 20 years, I can tell you first hand an alcoholic doesn’t care about anything but drinking. To ppl who talk about how their parents were alcoholics, congrats, your parents didn’t give a fuck about you.

From my experience, alcoholics sit at the end of the bar and drink. They’re not looking at their phones, and they might chit chat here and there,

Weird? seems to me that I could actually get along with martini??

Uh, no.

Recovery test 1. Learn who the toxic people are and do not be "friends" with them.

(Anyone trying to tell you to consume a substance you know is problematic to you, and telling you that you DONT have a problem with it when you know you do).

Martini just said literally everything an addicts inner voice tells them when they are justifying using anything. Alcohol is a terrible addiction. One that he himself had an issue with.....and kinda sounds relapsey here.

Here is your test. Replace alcohol with heroin and pretend he is talking to me. If that sounds bad.....well, that's because it is. Terrible advice. Dont take it seriously

Just get to Monday so you can talk to that nurse and get started on your medical detox.

Ok, Karen.

Im sorry, I have a little more faith in the guy then a fucking basket case like you.

You, are a junkie. He, is binge drinking. There’s a complete difference. Don’t try and couple yourself with the shit you did with a kid who’s young enough to learn from what he’s done.

As somebody who knows the difference between binge drinking and alcoholism, no offense, your pea brained junkie mind has little to offer in this situation.

You, used heroin. I was a binge drinker. One is not like the other. Somebody binge drinking is doing it for a reason other then to get high. YOU, we’re chasing dragons because you were selfish enough to say fuck it to everything else to get your fix.

We are not the same

Shamp is 40 fucking years old....ffs lol

And did I say you and I were the SAME somewhere? Did you read that somehow?

IM not the one saying stupid shit "der there is a difference between binge eating pain killers and being a junkie" .....because there isn't. I've heard this same "logic" from my alcoholic....oh sorry...."binge drinking" mother for decades who was just a "binge drinker" not a real "alcoholic" lol.

We are never gonna be the same, P. I dont think it's cute that you are telling someone who is at the point where they are openly admitting they have a problem(on the internet, where it's probably worse irl than what they chose to share btw) that they dont.....and calling upon some authority you imagine you have as a bartender who legit makes money off people drinking. I wouldnt feel some sense of pride if I convinced a struggling person to do something harmful like you would.

So no we ain't the same.

And look at Lily digging your maliscious posts because she dislikes me so much she will legit respond positively to your very obvious attempts to drag someone into a gutter by telling them alcohol isnt actually hurting them. Fucking sad. Hence why I wont associate privately with either of you.

That's fine I got all the "you arent a real addict" circular logic from some people too. If Shamp is smart and dead set to get healthy he will disregard this dry drunk idiocy.

See, dumbass, this is where you have a hard time not blurring the lines.

Your mother is an alcoholic. She didn’t give a fuck about you. You’ve basically said as much countless times. You are trying to correlate your experience with your mom to the shit Shampain is going thru because that’s what you know.

I, on the other hand, was a binge drinker who was drinking to forget the shit that was going on at the time. Which sounds a lot more similar to the shit he’s going thru. And now with the revelation he’s 40 instead of the assumption he was a kid, that further makes my point more logical.

The guy needs a reset, not an intervention. He can do more for himself by himself then having some doctor throw some shit at him and telling him to swallow it. He clearly stated he wanted his own space, that in itself is healing. He sees he has a problem, and I also said if it took suboxone for him to be a better person, good luck. So again, you jumping to conclusions like the communities house of pain is just more victim breeding on your behalf.

Pack it up and pack it in, Dovid.

Your biggest mistake here, is making it so public. You carry on like a man-child! Grow the fuck up idiot!

He has so much to say about me and I have no interest in any of it. Same repetitive and bitter garbage.

It's just sad. Every few months he pops in and repeats himself for a few days and dips out.

Narcissists never stop holding grudges and never reach any points of indifference and they always assume their "target" has the same energy over it as they do. Such a sensitive trigger. They never just let it go and act normal, they dont know how.

So textual tantrums aside my stance and advice stands and it's a good learning moment. Recovery is more and deeper than simple abstinence. And disregard anyone who would try to tell you that your problem isnt real - they dont have your best interest in mind AND odds are good they have a heap of their own issues that you dont want to inflict on yourself.

This is the whole reason why I find it hard giving him a chance like Shampers suggests. I’ve never done this with my ex girlfriends. In fact I’m still friends with most of them to this day. It frustrates my wife like none other…

 

[SHAMPAIN]

And before I go and play CoD with my kids;

Dovid.Moron. Perpetual skid mark of this community;

You need to stop the act and being so overbearing with your nausea victim identifying bullshit. You do not know what that kids going thru nor are you anybody to talk about toxic people when you are the most toxic person you know.

Give that kid his space and let him figure out what’s best for him. Not your loopy diagnosis because your some second rate junkie who thinks fixing one problem is solved by starting another. That’s your endless loop.

The kid is binge drinking because there’s something wrong with his head. Did you even read what he posted? The part where he wants his space? He’s young. Many ppl his age feel the exact same way and do the exact same thing. That doesn’t make them some blubbering idiot who needs prescription pills, it means they’re finding out who they are.

See, that’s the problem with ppl like you. You think you know it all when the best thing somebody actually needs to do for him is one damn thing;

Listen

Anything I said is irrelevant to the fact I actually listened to the kid. And unlike you, I actually understand where he’s coming from. And because I understand where he’s coming from, I really don’t think he needs all this doctor and drugs bullshit. He just needs to find himself and start with a blank page. And in a couple months, he ain’t even gonna remember all this bullshit.

And to be completely honest with you, the only thing interesting about you were your heroin stories, only because I could never comprehend a mother putting herself out there like that so selfishly. At least when I was binge drinking, my kids were well taken care of and I still put them first. Can you say the same? Don’t answer that because I know the answer (wink wink)

So save your victim gatekeeping drivel for somebody who actually cares. I’m not willing to throw some confused kid into statisticsville or tell him drinking is worse then prescription pills when one of those evils he can control himself where as the other only works until a doctor stops writing a script for it. Suboxone is a nasty fucking drug to be dependent upon and chances are that shits gonna alter who he is as a human being more so then drinking ever will.

But then again, I don’t play a fucking nurse on a message board.

(Mic dropped)

P.S- you look like one of the Keebler elf’s in your AV pic.

Burn!

That’s really not a burn, it’s just the truth.

The sad reality is more ppl are sick of Dovids narcissistic diatribes in this community then let on only because her fucking justifying why she’s right meltdowns pillage bandwidth like an army of drunken Vikings. The fact she hasn’t posted as many recently says this community might have some hope for a brighter tomorrow then forecasted.

She’s everything she accuses others of being. Why not ask Murdoch? You know, her friend for umpteen years who got sick of defending a stupid narcissist. Or Flea, who’s only on good terms because she knows Dovid will blabber all her personal shit online at a drop of a hat?

Oh wait, that’s what I do, right? The same guy who had access to everyone’s IP’s here and knows what to do with them yet hasn’t done fuck all with any of it. Whoops

Sorry, I don’t play a victim online for attention, nor do I spin narratives to pigeon hole somebody going thru a tough time and using alcohol to escape as some means to push some stupid agenda that suboxone, a drug known for its dependency, is somehow better then weening yourself off booze. Sorry. I’ll give a kid the benefit of the doubt that he’s a better person just going thru a tough time then telling him “no, you poor thing, just make it to Monday” like he has no self control and is just some animal because from her addiction experiences that was how low she was willing to go.

My gf is 27. Isn’t Shampain younger then her? She went thru her drinking phase and that shit stopped the second she got secure with herself as a person and let go of all the bullshit from her past and is now rather successful. Not once did I ever tell her “omg Airy you need an intervention and some shelp that’s going to damage my credit feeding you prescription pills because your fucked in the head”. I listened to what she had to say. I let her make her mistakes, and let her come to grips with the shit that was making her act like that instead of telling her she needs some fucking film to place under her tongue and only then will everything be ok. Fuck that. I stuck by her cuz that’s what friends do.

Suboxone is fucked up. It’s mind altering shit that changes a person. It fucks with your head, your hair, and your teeth. It should be a last resort type of thing and no offense, I don’t think some confused kid needs to all in himself when he’s just a kid. We were all like him at his age with the exception we didn’t have all the cop outs and excuses kids today have.

We just dealt with it.

Dude, I'm killing myself with painkillers because I need opiods not booze, I've took a shitload of tramadol, nurofen plus and nearly 60 pregabalin this week, I need intervention that's why I'm going to get on suboxone on Monday... It's benzos and nurofen plus I'm popping today, I'm totally dry from booze... Just thought I'd clear that up, dovey never mentioned suboxone to me, I told her I wanted on it... Can you and Dovey ever make peace?

 

[Breakfall]

This is where alcohol and a bit of marijuana is best. It’s uncomplicated ffs!

 

[Dove]

Drinking water fixes a hangover.

Are you actually trying to be nice for a change?

I’m nice all the time.

I have no clue wtf you were drinking, but 8oz of water to every 2oz of alcohol will keep you from getting hung over.

Hell, slam a gallon of water with a handful of ibuprofen before you sleep will stop a hangover. You might still be drunk when you wake up depending on how much you drank, but it beats being hung over.

wtf were you drinking?

I can't remember, anything I could get, vodka, beer, whiskey, wine... I was fucking killing myself quick...

You wernt “killing” yourself, you were just binge drinking the hard way.

I don’t think you are an alcoholic, if you were, you wouldn’t be here, you’d be drinking. As somebody who has bartended over 20 years, I can tell you first hand an alcoholic doesn’t care about anything but drinking. To ppl who talk about how their parents were alcoholics, congrats, your parents didn’t give a fuck about you.

From my experience, alcoholics sit at the end of the bar and drink. They’re not looking at their phones, and they might chit chat here and there,

Weird? seems to me that I could actually get along with martini??

Uh, no.

Recovery test 1. Learn who the toxic people are and do not be "friends" with them.

(Anyone trying to tell you to consume a substance you know is problematic to you, and telling you that you DONT have a problem with it when you know you do).

Martini just said literally everything an addicts inner voice tells them when they are justifying using anything. Alcohol is a terrible addiction. One that he himself had an issue with.....and kinda sounds relapsey here.

Here is your test. Replace alcohol with heroin and pretend he is talking to me. If that sounds bad.....well, that's because it is. Terrible advice. Dont take it seriously

Just get to Monday so you can talk to that nurse and get started on your medical detox.

Ok, Karen.

Im sorry, I have a little more faith in the guy then a fucking basket case like you.

You, are a junkie. He, is binge drinking. There’s a complete difference. Don’t try and couple yourself with the shit you did with a kid who’s young enough to learn from what he’s done.

As somebody who knows the difference between binge drinking and alcoholism, no offense, your pea brained junkie mind has little to offer in this situation.

You, used heroin. I was a binge drinker. One is not like the other. Somebody binge drinking is doing it for a reason other then to get high. YOU, we’re chasing dragons because you were selfish enough to say fuck it to everything else to get your fix.

We are not the same

Shamp is 40 fucking years old....ffs lol

And did I say you and I were the SAME somewhere? Did you read that somehow?

IM not the one saying stupid shit "der there is a difference between binge eating pain killers and being a junkie" .....because there isn't. I've heard this same "logic" from my alcoholic....oh sorry...."binge drinking" mother for decades who was just a "binge drinker" not a real "alcoholic" lol.

We are never gonna be the same, P. I dont think it's cute that you are telling someone who is at the point where they are openly admitting they have a problem(on the internet, where it's probably worse irl than what they chose to share btw) that they dont.....and calling upon some authority you imagine you have as a bartender who legit makes money off people drinking. I wouldnt feel some sense of pride if I convinced a struggling person to do something harmful like you would.

So no we ain't the same.

And look at Lily digging your maliscious posts because she dislikes me so much she will legit respond positively to your very obvious attempts to drag someone into a gutter by telling them alcohol isnt actually hurting them. Fucking sad. Hence why I wont associate privately with either of you.

That's fine I got all the "you arent a real addict" circular logic from some people too. If Shamp is smart and dead set to get healthy he will disregard this dry drunk idiocy.

See, dumbass, this is where you have a hard time not blurring the lines.

Your mother is an alcoholic. She didn’t give a fuck about you. You’ve basically said as much countless times. You are trying to correlate your experience with your mom to the shit Shampain is going thru because that’s what you know.

I, on the other hand, was a binge drinker who was drinking to forget the shit that was going on at the time. Which sounds a lot more similar to the shit he’s going thru. And now with the revelation he’s 40 instead of the assumption he was a kid, that further makes my point more logical.

The guy needs a reset, not an intervention. He can do more for himself by himself then having some doctor throw some shit at him and telling him to swallow it. He clearly stated he wanted his own space, that in itself is healing. He sees he has a problem, and I also said if it took suboxone for him to be a better person, good luck. So again, you jumping to conclusions like the communities house of pain is just more victim breeding on your behalf.

Pack it up and pack it in, Dovid.

Your biggest mistake here, is making it so public. You carry on like a man-child! Grow the fuck up idiot!

He has so much to say about me and I have no interest in any of it. Same repetitive and bitter garbage.

It's just sad. Every few months he pops in and repeats himself for a few days and dips out.

Narcissists never stop holding grudges and never reach any points of indifference and they always assume their "target" has the same energy over it as they do. Such a sensitive trigger. They never just let it go and act normal, they dont know how.

So textual tantrums aside my stance and advice stands and it's a good learning moment. Recovery is more and deeper than simple abstinence. And disregard anyone who would try to tell you that your problem isnt real - they dont have your best interest in mind AND odds are good they have a heap of their own issues that you dont want to inflict on yourself.

This is the whole reason why I find it hard giving him a chance like Shampers suggests. I’ve never done this with my ex girlfriends. In fact I’m still friends with most of them to this day. It frustrates my wife like none other…

How did "Hey.....Martinis advice here is terrible. Here is a better way to think about this" turn into "hey Martini....I'd like to see another several paragraphs worth of your angry opinions about me as a person that youve already shared unsolicited at least 100 times" ?

Because I sure the fuck didnt express an interest in any of that lmao.

Fucking hell. I mean thanks for demonstrating why the source of that bad advice isnt credible. Lol.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

Oh and BTW I'm 40 lol

 

[Breakfall]

Drinking water fixes a hangover.

Are you actually trying to be nice for a change?

I’m nice all the time.

I have no clue wtf you were drinking, but 8oz of water to every 2oz of alcohol will keep you from getting hung over.

Hell, slam a gallon of water with a handful of ibuprofen before you sleep will stop a hangover. You might still be drunk when you wake up depending on how much you drank, but it beats being hung over.

wtf were you drinking?

I can't remember, anything I could get, vodka, beer, whiskey, wine... I was fucking killing myself quick...

You wernt “killing” yourself, you were just binge drinking the hard way.

I don’t think you are an alcoholic, if you were, you wouldn’t be here, you’d be drinking. As somebody who has bartended over 20 years, I can tell you first hand an alcoholic doesn’t care about anything but drinking. To ppl who talk about how their parents were alcoholics, congrats, your parents didn’t give a fuck about you.

From my experience, alcoholics sit at the end of the bar and drink. They’re not looking at their phones, and they might chit chat here and there,

Weird? seems to me that I could actually get along with martini??

Uh, no.

Recovery test 1. Learn who the toxic people are and do not be "friends" with them.

(Anyone trying to tell you to consume a substance you know is problematic to you, and telling you that you DONT have a problem with it when you know you do).

Martini just said literally everything an addicts inner voice tells them when they are justifying using anything. Alcohol is a terrible addiction. One that he himself had an issue with.....and kinda sounds relapsey here.

Here is your test. Replace alcohol with heroin and pretend he is talking to me. If that sounds bad.....well, that's because it is. Terrible advice. Dont take it seriously

Just get to Monday so you can talk to that nurse and get started on your medical detox.

Ok, Karen.

Im sorry, I have a little more faith in the guy then a fucking basket case like you.

You, are a junkie. He, is binge drinking. There’s a complete difference. Don’t try and couple yourself with the shit you did with a kid who’s young enough to learn from what he’s done.

As somebody who knows the difference between binge drinking and alcoholism, no offense, your pea brained junkie mind has little to offer in this situation.

You, used heroin. I was a binge drinker. One is not like the other. Somebody binge drinking is doing it for a reason other then to get high. YOU, we’re chasing dragons because you were selfish enough to say fuck it to everything else to get your fix.

We are not the same

Shamp is 40 fucking years old....ffs lol

And did I say you and I were the SAME somewhere? Did you read that somehow?

IM not the one saying stupid shit "der there is a difference between binge eating pain killers and being a junkie" .....because there isn't. I've heard this same "logic" from my alcoholic....oh sorry...."binge drinking" mother for decades who was just a "binge drinker" not a real "alcoholic" lol.

We are never gonna be the same, P. I dont think it's cute that you are telling someone who is at the point where they are openly admitting they have a problem(on the internet, where it's probably worse irl than what they chose to share btw) that they dont.....and calling upon some authority you imagine you have as a bartender who legit makes money off people drinking. I wouldnt feel some sense of pride if I convinced a struggling person to do something harmful like you would.

So no we ain't the same.

And look at Lily digging your maliscious posts because she dislikes me so much she will legit respond positively to your very obvious attempts to drag someone into a gutter by telling them alcohol isnt actually hurting them. Fucking sad. Hence why I wont associate privately with either of you.

That's fine I got all the "you arent a real addict" circular logic from some people too. If Shamp is smart and dead set to get healthy he will disregard this dry drunk idiocy.

See, dumbass, this is where you have a hard time not blurring the lines.

Your mother is an alcoholic. She didn’t give a fuck about you. You’ve basically said as much countless times. You are trying to correlate your experience with your mom to the shit Shampain is going thru because that’s what you know.

I, on the other hand, was a binge drinker who was drinking to forget the shit that was going on at the time. Which sounds a lot more similar to the shit he’s going thru. And now with the revelation he’s 40 instead of the assumption he was a kid, that further makes my point more logical.

The guy needs a reset, not an intervention. He can do more for himself by himself then having some doctor throw some shit at him and telling him to swallow it. He clearly stated he wanted his own space, that in itself is healing. He sees he has a problem, and I also said if it took suboxone for him to be a better person, good luck. So again, you jumping to conclusions like the communities house of pain is just more victim breeding on your behalf.

Pack it up and pack it in, Dovid.

Your biggest mistake here, is making it so public. You carry on like a man-child! Grow the fuck up idiot!

He has so much to say about me and I have no interest in any of it. Same repetitive and bitter garbage.

It's just sad. Every few months he pops in and repeats himself for a few days and dips out.

Narcissists never stop holding grudges and never reach any points of indifference and they always assume their "target" has the same energy over it as they do. Such a sensitive trigger. They never just let it go and act normal, they dont know how.

So textual tantrums aside my stance and advice stands and it's a good learning moment. Recovery is more and deeper than simple abstinence. And disregard anyone who would try to tell you that your problem isnt real - they dont have your best interest in mind AND odds are good they have a heap of their own issues that you dont want to inflict on yourself.

This is the whole reason why I find it hard giving him a chance like Shampers suggests. I’ve never done this with my ex girlfriends. In fact I’m still friends with most of them to this day. It frustrates my wife like none other…

How did "Hey.....Martinis advice here is terrible. Here is a better way to think about this" turn into "hey Martini....I'd like to see another several paragraphs worth of your angry opinions about me as a person that youve already shared unsolicited at least 100 times" ?

Because I sure the fuck didnt express an interest in any of that lmao.

Fucking hell. I mean thanks for demonstrating why the source of that bad advice isnt credible. Lol.

I honestly gloss over most of his shit. I’ve read everyday for the entirety of my life. I have speed-reading sown up! These people try make themselves sound all cultured. In business it simply sounds like someone is trying to pull the wool…and I hate crooked business.

 

[Master]

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[Dove]

And before I go and play CoD with my kids;

Dovid.Moron. Perpetual skid mark of this community;

You need to stop the act and being so overbearing with your nausea victim identifying bullshit. You do not know what that kids going thru nor are you anybody to talk about toxic people when you are the most toxic person you know.

Give that kid his space and let him figure out what’s best for him. Not your loopy diagnosis because your some second rate junkie who thinks fixing one problem is solved by starting another. That’s your endless loop.

The kid is binge drinking because there’s something wrong with his head. Did you even read what he posted? The part where he wants his space? He’s young. Many ppl his age feel the exact same way and do the exact same thing. That doesn’t make them some blubbering idiot who needs prescription pills, it means they’re finding out who they are.

See, that’s the problem with ppl like you. You think you know it all when the best thing somebody actually needs to do for him is one damn thing;

Listen

Anything I said is irrelevant to the fact I actually listened to the kid. And unlike you, I actually understand where he’s coming from. And because I understand where he’s coming from, I really don’t think he needs all this doctor and drugs bullshit. He just needs to find himself and start with a blank page. And in a couple months, he ain’t even gonna remember all this bullshit.

And to be completely honest with you, the only thing interesting about you were your heroin stories, only because I could never comprehend a mother putting herself out there like that so selfishly. At least when I was binge drinking, my kids were well taken care of and I still put them first. Can you say the same? Don’t answer that because I know the answer (wink wink)

So save your victim gatekeeping drivel for somebody who actually cares. I’m not willing to throw some confused kid into statisticsville or tell him drinking is worse then prescription pills when one of those evils he can control himself where as the other only works until a doctor stops writing a script for it. Suboxone is a nasty fucking drug to be dependent upon and chances are that shits gonna alter who he is as a human being more so then drinking ever will.

But then again, I don’t play a fucking nurse on a message board.

(Mic dropped)

P.S- you look like one of the Keebler elf’s in your AV pic.

Burn!

That’s really not a burn, it’s just the truth.

The sad reality is more ppl are sick of Dovids narcissistic diatribes in this community then let on only because her fucking justifying why she’s right meltdowns pillage bandwidth like an army of drunken Vikings. The fact she hasn’t posted as many recently says this community might have some hope for a brighter tomorrow then forecasted.

She’s everything she accuses others of being. Why not ask Murdoch? You know, her friend for umpteen years who got sick of defending a stupid narcissist. Or Flea, who’s only on good terms because she knows Dovid will blabber all her personal shit online at a drop of a hat?

Oh wait, that’s what I do, right? The same guy who had access to everyone’s IP’s here and knows what to do with them yet hasn’t done fuck all with any of it. Whoops

Sorry, I don’t play a victim online for attention, nor do I spin narratives to pigeon hole somebody going thru a tough time and using alcohol to escape as some means to push some stupid agenda that suboxone, a drug known for its dependency, is somehow better then weening yourself off booze. Sorry. I’ll give a kid the benefit of the doubt that he’s a better person just going thru a tough time then telling him “no, you poor thing, just make it to Monday” like he has no self control and is just some animal because from her addiction experiences that was how low she was willing to go.

My gf is 27. Isn’t Shampain younger then her? She went thru her drinking phase and that shit stopped the second she got secure with herself as a person and let go of all the bullshit from her past and is now rather successful. Not once did I ever tell her “omg Airy you need an intervention and some shelp that’s going to damage my credit feeding you prescription pills because your fucked in the head”. I listened to what she had to say. I let her make her mistakes, and let her come to grips with the shit that was making her act like that instead of telling her she needs some fucking film to place under her tongue and only then will everything be ok. Fuck that. I stuck by her cuz that’s what friends do.

Suboxone is fucked up. It’s mind altering shit that changes a person. It fucks with your head, your hair, and your teeth. It should be a last resort type of thing and no offense, I don’t think some confused kid needs to all in himself when he’s just a kid. We were all like him at his age with the exception we didn’t have all the cop outs and excuses kids today have.

We just dealt with it.

Dude, I'm killing myself with painkillers because I need opiods not booze, I've took a shitload of tramadol, nurofen plus and nearly 60 pregabalin this week, I need intervention that's why I'm going to get on suboxone on Monday... It's benzos and nurofen plus I'm popping today, I'm totally dry from booze... Just thought I'd clear that up, dovey never mentioned suboxone to me, I told her I wanted on it... Can you and Dovey ever make peace?

Shamp.....just feel free to post about whatever you need to post about and keep your mind right. Talk to your nurse Monday about all of this.

And I dont know what kind of groups/meetings they have where you are but i LOVE Celebrate Recovery and i do two meetings a month.....even when i feel like i dont need it. And it always helps.

Ask your nurse for some info on counseling and meetings and dont listen to people on the internet UNLESS they are telling you to talk to a doctor or nurse. No one here can diagnose you, no one here can possibly know what your life is truly like right now. If you say you have a problem, than you have a problem. Period.

Dont worry about this guys grudge with me, he isnt ever gonna grow out of it. That's entirely his problem. Not mine and not BFs. And not YOURS....ignore it lol.

I've been rolling my eyes and scrolling past it for like 2 years at this point. Maybe 2 and a half.

 

[Breakfall]

Pot, meet kettle.

You’re truly triggered son. You need to wash some dishes and reflect! No more Fortnite for you, you bad boy you!

 

[Dove]

Drinking water fixes a hangover.

Are you actually trying to be nice for a change?

I’m nice all the time.

I have no clue wtf you were drinking, but 8oz of water to every 2oz of alcohol will keep you from getting hung over.

Hell, slam a gallon of water with a handful of ibuprofen before you sleep will stop a hangover. You might still be drunk when you wake up depending on how much you drank, but it beats being hung over.

wtf were you drinking?

I can't remember, anything I could get, vodka, beer, whiskey, wine... I was fucking killing myself quick...

You wernt “killing” yourself, you were just binge drinking the hard way.

I don’t think you are an alcoholic, if you were, you wouldn’t be here, you’d be drinking. As somebody who has bartended over 20 years, I can tell you first hand an alcoholic doesn’t care about anything but drinking. To ppl who talk about how their parents were alcoholics, congrats, your parents didn’t give a fuck about you.

From my experience, alcoholics sit at the end of the bar and drink. They’re not looking at their phones, and they might chit chat here and there,

Weird? seems to me that I could actually get along with martini??

Uh, no.

Recovery test 1. Learn who the toxic people are and do not be "friends" with them.

(Anyone trying to tell you to consume a substance you know is problematic to you, and telling you that you DONT have a problem with it when you know you do).

Martini just said literally everything an addicts inner voice tells them when they are justifying using anything. Alcohol is a terrible addiction. One that he himself had an issue with.....and kinda sounds relapsey here.

Here is your test. Replace alcohol with heroin and pretend he is talking to me. If that sounds bad.....well, that's because it is. Terrible advice. Dont take it seriously

Just get to Monday so you can talk to that nurse and get started on your medical detox.

Ok, Karen.

Im sorry, I have a little more faith in the guy then a fucking basket case like you.

You, are a junkie. He, is binge drinking. There’s a complete difference. Don’t try and couple yourself with the shit you did with a kid who’s young enough to learn from what he’s done.

As somebody who knows the difference between binge drinking and alcoholism, no offense, your pea brained junkie mind has little to offer in this situation.

You, used heroin. I was a binge drinker. One is not like the other. Somebody binge drinking is doing it for a reason other then to get high. YOU, we’re chasing dragons because you were selfish enough to say fuck it to everything else to get your fix.

We are not the same

Shamp is 40 fucking years old....ffs lol

And did I say you and I were the SAME somewhere? Did you read that somehow?

IM not the one saying stupid shit "der there is a difference between binge eating pain killers and being a junkie" .....because there isn't. I've heard this same "logic" from my alcoholic....oh sorry...."binge drinking" mother for decades who was just a "binge drinker" not a real "alcoholic" lol.

We are never gonna be the same, P. I dont think it's cute that you are telling someone who is at the point where they are openly admitting they have a problem(on the internet, where it's probably worse irl than what they chose to share btw) that they dont.....and calling upon some authority you imagine you have as a bartender who legit makes money off people drinking. I wouldnt feel some sense of pride if I convinced a struggling person to do something harmful like you would.

So no we ain't the same.

And look at Lily digging your maliscious posts because she dislikes me so much she will legit respond positively to your very obvious attempts to drag someone into a gutter by telling them alcohol isnt actually hurting them. Fucking sad. Hence why I wont associate privately with either of you.

That's fine I got all the "you arent a real addict" circular logic from some people too. If Shamp is smart and dead set to get healthy he will disregard this dry drunk idiocy.

See, dumbass, this is where you have a hard time not blurring the lines.

Your mother is an alcoholic. She didn’t give a fuck about you. You’ve basically said as much countless times. You are trying to correlate your experience with your mom to the shit Shampain is going thru because that’s what you know.

I, on the other hand, was a binge drinker who was drinking to forget the shit that was going on at the time. Which sounds a lot more similar to the shit he’s going thru. And now with the revelation he’s 40 instead of the assumption he was a kid, that further makes my point more logical.

The guy needs a reset, not an intervention. He can do more for himself by himself then having some doctor throw some shit at him and telling him to swallow it. He clearly stated he wanted his own space, that in itself is healing. He sees he has a problem, and I also said if it took suboxone for him to be a better person, good luck. So again, you jumping to conclusions like the communities house of pain is just more victim breeding on your behalf.

Pack it up and pack it in, Dovid.

Your biggest mistake here, is making it so public. You carry on like a man-child! Grow the fuck up idiot!

He has so much to say about me and I have no interest in any of it. Same repetitive and bitter garbage.

It's just sad. Every few months he pops in and repeats himself for a few days and dips out.

Narcissists never stop holding grudges and never reach any points of indifference and they always assume their "target" has the same energy over it as they do. Such a sensitive trigger. They never just let it go and act normal, they dont know how.

So textual tantrums aside my stance and advice stands and it's a good learning moment. Recovery is more and deeper than simple abstinence. And disregard anyone who would try to tell you that your problem isnt real - they dont have your best interest in mind AND odds are good they have a heap of their own issues that you dont want to inflict on yourself.

This is the whole reason why I find it hard giving him a chance like Shampers suggests. I’ve never done this with my ex girlfriends. In fact I’m still friends with most of them to this day. It frustrates my wife like none other…

How did "Hey.....Martinis advice here is terrible. Here is a better way to think about this" turn into "hey Martini....I'd like to see another several paragraphs worth of your angry opinions about me as a person that youve already shared unsolicited at least 100 times" ?

Because I sure the fuck didnt express an interest in any of that lmao.

Fucking hell. I mean thanks for demonstrating why the source of that bad advice isnt credible. Lol.

I honestly gloss over most of his shit. I’ve read everyday for the entirety of my life. I have speed-reading sown up! These people try make themselves sound all cultured. In business it simply sounds like someone is trying to pull the wool…and I hate crooked business.

They are mostly stuck in some weird flame board that becomes an excuse for really off putting behavior and mind numbing repetitive angst.

 

[Breakfall]

Drinking water fixes a hangover.

Are you actually trying to be nice for a change?

I’m nice all the time.

I have no clue wtf you were drinking, but 8oz of water to every 2oz of alcohol will keep you from getting hung over.

Hell, slam a gallon of water with a handful of ibuprofen before you sleep will stop a hangover. You might still be drunk when you wake up depending on how much you drank, but it beats being hung over.

wtf were you drinking?

I can't remember, anything I could get, vodka, beer, whiskey, wine... I was fucking killing myself quick...

You wernt “killing” yourself, you were just binge drinking the hard way.

I don’t think you are an alcoholic, if you were, you wouldn’t be here, you’d be drinking. As somebody who has bartended over 20 years, I can tell you first hand an alcoholic doesn’t care about anything but drinking. To ppl who talk about how their parents were alcoholics, congrats, your parents didn’t give a fuck about you.

From my experience, alcoholics sit at the end of the bar and drink. They’re not looking at their phones, and they might chit chat here and there,

Weird? seems to me that I could actually get along with martini??

Uh, no.

Recovery test 1. Learn who the toxic people are and do not be "friends" with them.

(Anyone trying to tell you to consume a substance you know is problematic to you, and telling you that you DONT have a problem with it when you know you do).

Martini just said literally everything an addicts inner voice tells them when they are justifying using anything. Alcohol is a terrible addiction. One that he himself had an issue with.....and kinda sounds relapsey here.

Here is your test. Replace alcohol with heroin and pretend he is talking to me. If that sounds bad.....well, that's because it is. Terrible advice. Dont take it seriously

Just get to Monday so you can talk to that nurse and get started on your medical detox.

Ok, Karen.

Im sorry, I have a little more faith in the guy then a fucking basket case like you.

You, are a junkie. He, is binge drinking. There’s a complete difference. Don’t try and couple yourself with the shit you did with a kid who’s young enough to learn from what he’s done.

As somebody who knows the difference between binge drinking and alcoholism, no offense, your pea brained junkie mind has little to offer in this situation.

You, used heroin. I was a binge drinker. One is not like the other. Somebody binge drinking is doing it for a reason other then to get high. YOU, we’re chasing dragons because you were selfish enough to say fuck it to everything else to get your fix.

We are not the same

Shamp is 40 fucking years old....ffs lol

And did I say you and I were the SAME somewhere? Did you read that somehow?

IM not the one saying stupid shit "der there is a difference between binge eating pain killers and being a junkie" .....because there isn't. I've heard this same "logic" from my alcoholic....oh sorry...."binge drinking" mother for decades who was just a "binge drinker" not a real "alcoholic" lol.

We are never gonna be the same, P. I dont think it's cute that you are telling someone who is at the point where they are openly admitting they have a problem(on the internet, where it's probably worse irl than what they chose to share btw) that they dont.....and calling upon some authority you imagine you have as a bartender who legit makes money off people drinking. I wouldnt feel some sense of pride if I convinced a struggling person to do something harmful like you would.

So no we ain't the same.

And look at Lily digging your maliscious posts because she dislikes me so much she will legit respond positively to your very obvious attempts to drag someone into a gutter by telling them alcohol isnt actually hurting them. Fucking sad. Hence why I wont associate privately with either of you.

That's fine I got all the "you arent a real addict" circular logic from some people too. If Shamp is smart and dead set to get healthy he will disregard this dry drunk idiocy.

See, dumbass, this is where you have a hard time not blurring the lines.

Your mother is an alcoholic. She didn’t give a fuck about you. You’ve basically said as much countless times. You are trying to correlate your experience with your mom to the shit Shampain is going thru because that’s what you know.

I, on the other hand, was a binge drinker who was drinking to forget the shit that was going on at the time. Which sounds a lot more similar to the shit he’s going thru. And now with the revelation he’s 40 instead of the assumption he was a kid, that further makes my point more logical.

The guy needs a reset, not an intervention. He can do more for himself by himself then having some doctor throw some shit at him and telling him to swallow it. He clearly stated he wanted his own space, that in itself is healing. He sees he has a problem, and I also said if it took suboxone for him to be a better person, good luck. So again, you jumping to conclusions like the communities house of pain is just more victim breeding on your behalf.

Pack it up and pack it in, Dovid.

Your biggest mistake here, is making it so public. You carry on like a man-child! Grow the fuck up idiot!

He has so much to say about me and I have no interest in any of it. Same repetitive and bitter garbage.

It's just sad. Every few months he pops in and repeats himself for a few days and dips out.

Narcissists never stop holding grudges and never reach any points of indifference and they always assume their "target" has the same energy over it as they do. Such a sensitive trigger. They never just let it go and act normal, they dont know how.

So textual tantrums aside my stance and advice stands and it's a good learning moment. Recovery is more and deeper than simple abstinence. And disregard anyone who would try to tell you that your problem isnt real - they dont have your best interest in mind AND odds are good they have a heap of their own issues that you dont want to inflict on yourself.

This is the whole reason why I find it hard giving him a chance like Shampers suggests. I’ve never done this with my ex girlfriends. In fact I’m still friends with most of them to this day. It frustrates my wife like none other…

How did "Hey.....Martinis advice here is terrible. Here is a better way to think about this" turn into "hey Martini....I'd like to see another several paragraphs worth of your angry opinions about me as a person that youve already shared unsolicited at least 100 times" ?

Because I sure the fuck didnt express an interest in any of that lmao.

Fucking hell. I mean thanks for demonstrating why the source of that bad advice isnt credible. Lol.

I honestly gloss over most of his shit. I’ve read everyday for the entirety of my life. I have speed-reading sown up! These people try make themselves sound all cultured. In business it simply sounds like someone is trying to pull the wool…and I hate crooked business.

They are mostly stuck in some weird flame board that becomes an excuse for really off putting behavior and mind numbing repetitive angst.

I never heard of “flaming” until recently. I thought it was trolling and that was that!?? Is he an LGBTPIBe+ leftard perchance?

 

[Breakfall]

He’s not very smart. He says, “your welcome”. Rookie error. And his punctuation is fucked. And he hardly ever ends a sentence with a full-stop!

 

[SHAMPAIN]

And before I go and play CoD with my kids;

Dovid.Moron. Perpetual skid mark of this community;

You need to stop the act and being so overbearing with your nausea victim identifying bullshit. You do not know what that kids going thru nor are you anybody to talk about toxic people when you are the most toxic person you know.

Give that kid his space and let him figure out what’s best for him. Not your loopy diagnosis because your some second rate junkie who thinks fixing one problem is solved by starting another. That’s your endless loop.

The kid is binge drinking because there’s something wrong with his head. Did you even read what he posted? The part where he wants his space? He’s young. Many ppl his age feel the exact same way and do the exact same thing. That doesn’t make them some blubbering idiot who needs prescription pills, it means they’re finding out who they are.

See, that’s the problem with ppl like you. You think you know it all when the best thing somebody actually needs to do for him is one damn thing;

Listen

Anything I said is irrelevant to the fact I actually listened to the kid. And unlike you, I actually understand where he’s coming from. And because I understand where he’s coming from, I really don’t think he needs all this doctor and drugs bullshit. He just needs to find himself and start with a blank page. And in a couple months, he ain’t even gonna remember all this bullshit.

And to be completely honest with you, the only thing interesting about you were your heroin stories, only because I could never comprehend a mother putting herself out there like that so selfishly. At least when I was binge drinking, my kids were well taken care of and I still put them first. Can you say the same? Don’t answer that because I know the answer (wink wink)

So save your victim gatekeeping drivel for somebody who actually cares. I’m not willing to throw some confused kid into statisticsville or tell him drinking is worse then prescription pills when one of those evils he can control himself where as the other only works until a doctor stops writing a script for it. Suboxone is a nasty fucking drug to be dependent upon and chances are that shits gonna alter who he is as a human being more so then drinking ever will.

But then again, I don’t play a fucking nurse on a message board.

(Mic dropped)

P.S- you look like one of the Keebler elf’s in your AV pic.

Burn!

That’s really not a burn, it’s just the truth.

The sad reality is more ppl are sick of Dovids narcissistic diatribes in this community then let on only because her fucking justifying why she’s right meltdowns pillage bandwidth like an army of drunken Vikings. The fact she hasn’t posted as many recently says this community might have some hope for a brighter tomorrow then forecasted.

She’s everything she accuses others of being. Why not ask Murdoch? You know, her friend for umpteen years who got sick of defending a stupid narcissist. Or Flea, who’s only on good terms because she knows Dovid will blabber all her personal shit online at a drop of a hat?

Oh wait, that’s what I do, right? The same guy who had access to everyone’s IP’s here and knows what to do with them yet hasn’t done fuck all with any of it. Whoops

Sorry, I don’t play a victim online for attention, nor do I spin narratives to pigeon hole somebody going thru a tough time and using alcohol to escape as some means to push some stupid agenda that suboxone, a drug known for its dependency, is somehow better then weening yourself off booze. Sorry. I’ll give a kid the benefit of the doubt that he’s a better person just going thru a tough time then telling him “no, you poor thing, just make it to Monday” like he has no self control and is just some animal because from her addiction experiences that was how low she was willing to go.

My gf is 27. Isn’t Shampain younger then her? She went thru her drinking phase and that shit stopped the second she got secure with herself as a person and let go of all the bullshit from her past and is now rather successful. Not once did I ever tell her “omg Airy you need an intervention and some shelp that’s going to damage my credit feeding you prescription pills because your fucked in the head”. I listened to what she had to say. I let her make her mistakes, and let her come to grips with the shit that was making her act like that instead of telling her she needs some fucking film to place under her tongue and only then will everything be ok. Fuck that. I stuck by her cuz that’s what friends do.

Suboxone is fucked up. It’s mind altering shit that changes a person. It fucks with your head, your hair, and your teeth. It should be a last resort type of thing and no offense, I don’t think some confused kid needs to all in himself when he’s just a kid. We were all like him at his age with the exception we didn’t have all the cop outs and excuses kids today have.

We just dealt with it.

Dude, I'm killing myself with painkillers because I need opiods not booze, I've took a shitload of tramadol, nurofen plus and nearly 60 pregabalin this week, I need intervention that's why I'm going to get on suboxone on Monday... It's benzos and nurofen plus I'm popping today, I'm totally dry from booze... Just thought I'd clear that up, dovey never mentioned suboxone to me, I told her I wanted on it... Can you and Dovey ever make peace?

Shamp.....just feel free to post about whatever you need to post about and keep your mind right. Talk to your nurse Monday about all of this.

And I dont know what kind of groups/meetings they have where you are but i LOVE Celebrate Recovery and i do two meetings a month.....even when i feel like i dont need it. And it always helps.

Ask your nurse for some info on counseling and meetings and dont listen to people on the internet UNLESS they are telling you to talk to a doctor or nurse. No one here can diagnose you, no one here can possibly know what your life is truly like right now. If you say you have a problem, than you have a problem. Period.

Dont worry about this guys grudge with me, he isnt ever gonna grow out of it. That's entirely his problem. Not mine and not BFs. And not YOURS....ignore it lol.

Thanks Dovey, I'll do all I can and get my shit back on track, my life fell apart in 2020 as you know and I've fucked myself with booze then prescription drugs to forget the fuckery... I lost my gf of 21 years, my job with her dad and went to jail at the same time, it totally fucked me now I need a controlled subutex tablet to keep me right... I'm not sure if it's the crushed tablet or espanor I'll get?
Martini is a witty and really funny guy when he's not venting fury at you constantly, I think I could really get on with him but the drama against you needs to stop and I hope it does... =/

 

[Master]

And before I go and play CoD with my kids;

Dovid.Moron. Perpetual skid mark of this community;

You need to stop the act and being so overbearing with your nausea victim identifying bullshit. You do not know what that kids going thru nor are you anybody to talk about toxic people when you are the most toxic person you know.

Give that kid his space and let him figure out what’s best for him. Not your loopy diagnosis because your some second rate junkie who thinks fixing one problem is solved by starting another. That’s your endless loop.

The kid is binge drinking because there’s something wrong with his head. Did you even read what he posted? The part where he wants his space? He’s young. Many ppl his age feel the exact same way and do the exact same thing. That doesn’t make them some blubbering idiot who needs prescription pills, it means they’re finding out who they are.

See, that’s the problem with ppl like you. You think you know it all when the best thing somebody actually needs to do for him is one damn thing;

Listen

Anything I said is irrelevant to the fact I actually listened to the kid. And unlike you, I actually understand where he’s coming from. And because I understand where he’s coming from, I really don’t think he needs all this doctor and drugs bullshit. He just needs to find himself and start with a blank page. And in a couple months, he ain’t even gonna remember all this bullshit.

And to be completely honest with you, the only thing interesting about you were your heroin stories, only because I could never comprehend a mother putting herself out there like that so selfishly. At least when I was binge drinking, my kids were well taken care of and I still put them first. Can you say the same? Don’t answer that because I know the answer (wink wink)

So save your victim gatekeeping drivel for somebody who actually cares. I’m not willing to throw some confused kid into statisticsville or tell him drinking is worse then prescription pills when one of those evils he can control himself where as the other only works until a doctor stops writing a script for it. Suboxone is a nasty fucking drug to be dependent upon and chances are that shits gonna alter who he is as a human being more so then drinking ever will.

But then again, I don’t play a fucking nurse on a message board.

(Mic dropped)

P.S- you look like one of the Keebler elf’s in your AV pic.

Burn!

That’s really not a burn, it’s just the truth.

The sad reality is more ppl are sick of Dovids narcissistic diatribes in this community then let on only because her fucking justifying why she’s right meltdowns pillage bandwidth like an army of drunken Vikings. The fact she hasn’t posted as many recently says this community might have some hope for a brighter tomorrow then forecasted.

She’s everything she accuses others of being. Why not ask Murdoch? You know, her friend for umpteen years who got sick of defending a stupid narcissist. Or Flea, who’s only on good terms because she knows Dovid will blabber all her personal shit online at a drop of a hat?

Oh wait, that’s what I do, right? The same guy who had access to everyone’s IP’s here and knows what to do with them yet hasn’t done fuck all with any of it. Whoops

Sorry, I don’t play a victim online for attention, nor do I spin narratives to pigeon hole somebody going thru a tough time and using alcohol to escape as some means to push some stupid agenda that suboxone, a drug known for its dependency, is somehow better then weening yourself off booze. Sorry. I’ll give a kid the benefit of the doubt that he’s a better person just going thru a tough time then telling him “no, you poor thing, just make it to Monday” like he has no self control and is just some animal because from her addiction experiences that was how low she was willing to go.

My gf is 27. Isn’t Shampain younger then her? She went thru her drinking phase and that shit stopped the second she got secure with herself as a person and let go of all the bullshit from her past and is now rather successful. Not once did I ever tell her “omg Airy you need an intervention and some shelp that’s going to damage my credit feeding you prescription pills because your fucked in the head”. I listened to what she had to say. I let her make her mistakes, and let her come to grips with the shit that was making her act like that instead of telling her she needs some fucking film to place under her tongue and only then will everything be ok. Fuck that. I stuck by her cuz that’s what friends do.

Suboxone is fucked up. It’s mind altering shit that changes a person. It fucks with your head, your hair, and your teeth. It should be a last resort type of thing and no offense, I don’t think some confused kid needs to all in himself when he’s just a kid. We were all like him at his age with the exception we didn’t have all the cop outs and excuses kids today have.

We just dealt with it.

Dude, I'm killing myself with painkillers because I need opiods not booze, I've took a shitload of tramadol, nurofen plus and nearly 60 pregabalin this week, I need intervention that's why I'm going to get on suboxone on Monday... It's benzos and nurofen plus I'm popping today, I'm totally dry from booze... Just thought I'd clear that up, dovey never mentioned suboxone to me, I told her I wanted on it... Can you and Dovey ever make peace?

Well, I was under the assumption it was an alcohol thing. I’m not a drug guy so I have no clue what you are going thru but here’s to your recovery. I would truly hope there’s a better alternative then suboxone out there for you as I’ve known somebody who was dependent on it at a time and they wernt the same person after they took it and once they stopped getting it their brain turned to mush. You just might be having a mid life crisis. Buy a corvette and date 20 year olds and see if that helps.

As for Dovid, I don’t have a problem with her. I think she’s an idiot but I thought she was an idiot way before the summer of Poofer. I hardly acknowledge her unless she pulls her over bearing victim bullshit. There’s better advice out there then anything she says.

I got no reason to lie, I’m not sticking around. (Shrugs)

 

[Omnipotent]

Nah, that isn't FLAMING... insulting and flaming are two different things.

Because the elite left or died, real flaming took a hit.

Don't mix flaming with insulting or trolling.

But there are at least 5 good flamers here... BF has lucked out.

 

[Master]

Nah, that isn't FLAMING... insulting and flaming are two different things.

Because the elite left or died, real flaming took a a hit.

Don't mix flaming with insulting or trolling.

But there are at least 5 good flamers here... BF has lucked out.

(Spits out soda)

Five? Name them

 

[Omnipotent]

You, me, Regan, Flynn, Blurt and I could throw in Flea... she's had her moments.

 

[Omnipotent]

I'm on my regular PC atm but I'm heading off to watch Speed with Sandra Bullock so I won't be posting much til later!~

 

[Breakfall]

You, me, Regan, Flynn, Blurt and I could throw in Flea... she's had her moments.

You’re delusional ol’ lady. Utterly insane!

 

[Breakfall]

I'm on my regular PC atm but I'm heading off to watch Speed with Sandra Bullock so I won't be posting much til later!~

Hahahahahahaaaaa…..fuuuuuuuck! Go smoke a pipe you goose!

 

[Omnipotent]

You, me, Regan, Flynn, Blurt and I could throw in Flea... she's had her moments.

You’re delusional ol’ lady. Utterly insane!

Any so called "adult" male who posts poo pictures on the net is a complete retard... just so you know, as KM said, nobody cares about you... fuck off child.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

And before I go and play CoD with my kids;

Dovid.Moron. Perpetual skid mark of this community;

You need to stop the act and being so overbearing with your nausea victim identifying bullshit. You do not know what that kids going thru nor are you anybody to talk about toxic people when you are the most toxic person you know.

Give that kid his space and let him figure out what’s best for him. Not your loopy diagnosis because your some second rate junkie who thinks fixing one problem is solved by starting another. That’s your endless loop.

The kid is binge drinking because there’s something wrong with his head. Did you even read what he posted? The part where he wants his space? He’s young. Many ppl his age feel the exact same way and do the exact same thing. That doesn’t make them some blubbering idiot who needs prescription pills, it means they’re finding out who they are.

See, that’s the problem with ppl like you. You think you know it all when the best thing somebody actually needs to do for him is one damn thing;

Listen

Anything I said is irrelevant to the fact I actually listened to the kid. And unlike you, I actually understand where he’s coming from. And because I understand where he’s coming from, I really don’t think he needs all this doctor and drugs bullshit. He just needs to find himself and start with a blank page. And in a couple months, he ain’t even gonna remember all this bullshit.

And to be completely honest with you, the only thing interesting about you were your heroin stories, only because I could never comprehend a mother putting herself out there like that so selfishly. At least when I was binge drinking, my kids were well taken care of and I still put them first. Can you say the same? Don’t answer that because I know the answer (wink wink)

So save your victim gatekeeping drivel for somebody who actually cares. I’m not willing to throw some confused kid into statisticsville or tell him drinking is worse then prescription pills when one of those evils he can control himself where as the other only works until a doctor stops writing a script for it. Suboxone is a nasty fucking drug to be dependent upon and chances are that shits gonna alter who he is as a human being more so then drinking ever will.

But then again, I don’t play a fucking nurse on a message board.

(Mic dropped)

P.S- you look like one of the Keebler elf’s in your AV pic.

Burn!

That’s really not a burn, it’s just the truth.

The sad reality is more ppl are sick of Dovids narcissistic diatribes in this community then let on only because her fucking justifying why she’s right meltdowns pillage bandwidth like an army of drunken Vikings. The fact she hasn’t posted as many recently says this community might have some hope for a brighter tomorrow then forecasted.

She’s everything she accuses others of being. Why not ask Murdoch? You know, her friend for umpteen years who got sick of defending a stupid narcissist. Or Flea, who’s only on good terms because she knows Dovid will blabber all her personal shit online at a drop of a hat?

Oh wait, that’s what I do, right? The same guy who had access to everyone’s IP’s here and knows what to do with them yet hasn’t done fuck all with any of it. Whoops

Sorry, I don’t play a victim online for attention, nor do I spin narratives to pigeon hole somebody going thru a tough time and using alcohol to escape as some means to push some stupid agenda that suboxone, a drug known for its dependency, is somehow better then weening yourself off booze. Sorry. I’ll give a kid the benefit of the doubt that he’s a better person just going thru a tough time then telling him “no, you poor thing, just make it to Monday” like he has no self control and is just some animal because from her addiction experiences that was how low she was willing to go.

My gf is 27. Isn’t Shampain younger then her? She went thru her drinking phase and that shit stopped the second she got secure with herself as a person and let go of all the bullshit from her past and is now rather successful. Not once did I ever tell her “omg Airy you need an intervention and some shelp that’s going to damage my credit feeding you prescription pills because your fucked in the head”. I listened to what she had to say. I let her make her mistakes, and let her come to grips with the shit that was making her act like that instead of telling her she needs some fucking film to place under her tongue and only then will everything be ok. Fuck that. I stuck by her cuz that’s what friends do.

Suboxone is fucked up. It’s mind altering shit that changes a person. It fucks with your head, your hair, and your teeth. It should be a last resort type of thing and no offense, I don’t think some confused kid needs to all in himself when he’s just a kid. We were all like him at his age with the exception we didn’t have all the cop outs and excuses kids today have.

We just dealt with it.

Dude, I'm killing myself with painkillers because I need opiods not booze, I've took a shitload of tramadol, nurofen plus and nearly 60 pregabalin this week, I need intervention that's why I'm going to get on suboxone on Monday... It's benzos and nurofen plus I'm popping today, I'm totally dry from booze... Just thought I'd clear that up, dovey never mentioned suboxone to me, I told her I wanted on it... Can you and Dovey ever make peace?

Well, I was under the assumption it was an alcohol thing. I’m not a drug guy so I have no clue what you are going thru but here’s to your recovery. I would truly hope there’s a better alternative then suboxone out there for you as I’ve known somebody who was dependent on it at a time and they wernt the same person after they took it and once they stopped getting it their brain turned to mush. You just might be having a mid life crisis. Buy a corvette and date 20 year olds and see if that helps.

As for Dovid, I don’t have a problem with her. I think she’s an idiot but I thought she was an idiot way before the summer of Poofer. I hardly acknowledge her unless she pulls her over bearing victim bullshit. There’s better advice out there then anything she says.

I got no reason to lie, I’m not sticking around. (Shrugs)

I've never had a problem with drugs before either so we'll see what happens...
20 year olds are too young for me, far too yappy, maybe 25 yo olds lol
I just bought a two year old Jag SUV but it's hardly a pussy magnet lol
Why are you not sticking around and just join in with the shit posting and fights? There's no other boards that are better with decent members is there?

 

[Dove]

And before I go and play CoD with my kids;

Dovid.Moron. Perpetual skid mark of this community;

You need to stop the act and being so overbearing with your nausea victim identifying bullshit. You do not know what that kids going thru nor are you anybody to talk about toxic people when you are the most toxic person you know.

Give that kid his space and let him figure out what’s best for him. Not your loopy diagnosis because your some second rate junkie who thinks fixing one problem is solved by starting another. That’s your endless loop.

The kid is binge drinking because there’s something wrong with his head. Did you even read what he posted? The part where he wants his space? He’s young. Many ppl his age feel the exact same way and do the exact same thing. That doesn’t make them some blubbering idiot who needs prescription pills, it means they’re finding out who they are.

See, that’s the problem with ppl like you. You think you know it all when the best thing somebody actually needs to do for him is one damn thing;

Listen

Anything I said is irrelevant to the fact I actually listened to the kid. And unlike you, I actually understand where he’s coming from. And because I understand where he’s coming from, I really don’t think he needs all this doctor and drugs bullshit. He just needs to find himself and start with a blank page. And in a couple months, he ain’t even gonna remember all this bullshit.

And to be completely honest with you, the only thing interesting about you were your heroin stories, only because I could never comprehend a mother putting herself out there like that so selfishly. At least when I was binge drinking, my kids were well taken care of and I still put them first. Can you say the same? Don’t answer that because I know the answer (wink wink)

So save your victim gatekeeping drivel for somebody who actually cares. I’m not willing to throw some confused kid into statisticsville or tell him drinking is worse then prescription pills when one of those evils he can control himself where as the other only works until a doctor stops writing a script for it. Suboxone is a nasty fucking drug to be dependent upon and chances are that shits gonna alter who he is as a human being more so then drinking ever will.

But then again, I don’t play a fucking nurse on a message board.

(Mic dropped)

P.S- you look like one of the Keebler elf’s in your AV pic.

Burn!

That’s really not a burn, it’s just the truth.

The sad reality is more ppl are sick of Dovids narcissistic diatribes in this community then let on only because her fucking justifying why she’s right meltdowns pillage bandwidth like an army of drunken Vikings. The fact she hasn’t posted as many recently says this community might have some hope for a brighter tomorrow then forecasted.

She’s everything she accuses others of being. Why not ask Murdoch? You know, her friend for umpteen years who got sick of defending a stupid narcissist. Or Flea, who’s only on good terms because she knows Dovid will blabber all her personal shit online at a drop of a hat?

Oh wait, that’s what I do, right? The same guy who had access to everyone’s IP’s here and knows what to do with them yet hasn’t done fuck all with any of it. Whoops

Sorry, I don’t play a victim online for attention, nor do I spin narratives to pigeon hole somebody going thru a tough time and using alcohol to escape as some means to push some stupid agenda that suboxone, a drug known for its dependency, is somehow better then weening yourself off booze. Sorry. I’ll give a kid the benefit of the doubt that he’s a better person just going thru a tough time then telling him “no, you poor thing, just make it to Monday” like he has no self control and is just some animal because from her addiction experiences that was how low she was willing to go.

My gf is 27. Isn’t Shampain younger then her? She went thru her drinking phase and that shit stopped the second she got secure with herself as a person and let go of all the bullshit from her past and is now rather successful. Not once did I ever tell her “omg Airy you need an intervention and some shelp that’s going to damage my credit feeding you prescription pills because your fucked in the head”. I listened to what she had to say. I let her make her mistakes, and let her come to grips with the shit that was making her act like that instead of telling her she needs some fucking film to place under her tongue and only then will everything be ok. Fuck that. I stuck by her cuz that’s what friends do.

Suboxone is fucked up. It’s mind altering shit that changes a person. It fucks with your head, your hair, and your teeth. It should be a last resort type of thing and no offense, I don’t think some confused kid needs to all in himself when he’s just a kid. We were all like him at his age with the exception we didn’t have all the cop outs and excuses kids today have.

We just dealt with it.

Dude, I'm killing myself with painkillers because I need opiods not booze, I've took a shitload of tramadol, nurofen plus and nearly 60 pregabalin this week, I need intervention that's why I'm going to get on suboxone on Monday... It's benzos and nurofen plus I'm popping today, I'm totally dry from booze... Just thought I'd clear that up, dovey never mentioned suboxone to me, I told her I wanted on it... Can you and Dovey ever make peace?

Shamp.....just feel free to post about whatever you need to post about and keep your mind right. Talk to your nurse Monday about all of this.

And I dont know what kind of groups/meetings they have where you are but i LOVE Celebrate Recovery and i do two meetings a month.....even when i feel like i dont need it. And it always helps.

Ask your nurse for some info on counseling and meetings and dont listen to people on the internet UNLESS they are telling you to talk to a doctor or nurse. No one here can diagnose you, no one here can possibly know what your life is truly like right now. If you say you have a problem, than you have a problem. Period.

Dont worry about this guys grudge with me, he isnt ever gonna grow out of it. That's entirely his problem. Not mine and not BFs. And not YOURS....ignore it lol.

Thanks Dovey, I'll do all I can and get my shit back on track, my life fell apart in 2020 as you know and I've fucked myself with booze then prescription drugs to forget the fuckery... I lost my gf of 21 years, my job with her dad and went to jail at the same time, it totally fucked me now I need a controlled subutex tablet to keep me right... I'm not sure if it's the crushed tablet or espanor I'll get?
Martini is a witty and really funny guy when he's not venting fury at you constantly, I think I could really get on with him but the drama against you needs to stop and I hope it does... =/

I mean Ted Bundy was witty and well liked when he wasnt murdering women.....just sayin.

What I did was a medical detox. The most important thing you need to know about starting a medical detox is DO NOT LIE ABOUT YOUR LAST DOSE. You have to be a full 24 hours out from your last dose. You will be uncomfortable, time will drag, you will want to rip off all your skin.....but if you take any detox/maintenance meds too soon....you will enter a level of hell called precipitated withdraw

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And nothing can stop this withdraw. My roommate in rehab on the detox wing did this. It was awful to watch. Dont do that lol.

You may get subutex crushed under the tongue. That's what I got.....for exactly 3 days. If your goal is to go off completely(and that's what I hope you do, just get off the shit asap and enter counseling before this relationship with opiates gets worse) than you'll likely be getting the crushed subutex under the tongue.

Another possibility is suboxone. It's the same as subutex only suboxone has an opiate blocker. So if you try to use while on suboxone....there is no reward at all. Suboxone comes in little orange films that dissolve in your mouth and taste just like rotten tangerines grown in the ass of Satan. You can be detoxed in a days with it just like on subutex.

Start going for runs or jogs. Excersize. Get some good vitamins and raw dark chocolate. Drink LOTS of water. Get magnesium....this will help with restless leg and there is a blood pressure med called Chlonidine that also helps with uncomfortable detox symptoms....she may offer it or you can ask about it.

Because if you are detoxing you are gonna get less meds each day.

And if you've been drinking make sure to tell her because you may or may not need treatment to detox from alcohol. Alcohol detox can kill you. And yes if you've been drinking while chemically hooked on opiates your odds of chemical dependence on alcohol is higher.....if you havent been drinking and you are good, just do not touch it. Drink water. Lots and lots of water. Dont forget you WILL have no normal levels of endorphins/dopamine for an average of two years.....so you will have urges. Make a plan.

You'll be alright ♡ my life today is significantly better than it was before drugs and recovery. It's all worth it.

 

[Master]

You, me, Regan, Flynn, Blurt and I could throw in Flea... she's had her moments.

Your bang on with the exception of Flynn.

Flynn is a bickerer. She’s an observing gnat who finds lobs tossed in other posts then uses that for ammo. She’s a lightweight with a rubber bulge who turned a man gay who prolly is “one of those “ who put a stocking over the fireplace for her dog. The chances her arms are hairy like like a log cutter and her farts stank like WD40 are relatively high.

Id put Fraud on that list way before Flynn

 

[Breakfall]

You, me, Regan, Flynn, Blurt and I could throw in Flea... she's had her moments.

You’re delusional ol’ lady. Utterly insane!

Any so called "adult" male who posts poo pictures on the net is a complete retard... just so you know, as KM said, nobody cares about you... fuck off child.

I never uploaded those poo pics on the net? It came at a surprise to you and I both. Kevin is an idiot and doesn’t compare to me. I have achieved more in life than the both of you combined. And trust me…it was an easy feat!

 

[Breakfall]

You, me, Regan, Flynn, Blurt and I could throw in Flea... she's had her moments.

Your bang on with the exception of Flynn.

Flynn is a bickerer. She’s an observing gnat who finds lobs tossed in other posts then uses that for ammo. She’s a lightweight with a rubber bulge who turned a man gay who prolly is “one of those “ who put a stocking over the fireplace for her dog. The chances her arms are hairy like like a log cutter and her farts stank like WD40 are relatively high.

Id put Fraud on that list way before Flynn

You’re bang on! You illiterate cunt!

 

[Omnipotent]

And Joo and Reggie Essent can flame too.

 

[Breakfall]

@Martini News Network , @Omnipotent , @Flynn , @Blandscape ….y’all haven’t a chance of making any headway at Bastard Factory. You’re just lucky that your time zone protects you from me. I would trip-trap your crap if time allowed. Now fuck off! It’s past 2 am and I need to surf in the morning. Plebs! Flaming lololololol

 

[Levon]

This is the whole reason why I find it hard giving him a chance like Shampers suggests. I’ve never done this with my ex girlfriends. In fact I’m still friends with most of them to this day. It frustrates my wife like none other…

I agree with your point about exes. But then I've never had an ex like Dovey, except the one who suicided a few months after I last saw her (and we were still friends, more or less, at that point.)

No, I view the two of them as equally tiresome in their own right. My reasons for not buying any bullshit from either one of them are based on forum histories.

 

[Omnipotent]

You, me, Regan, Flynn, Blurt and I could throw in Flea... she's had her moments.

You’re delusional ol’ lady. Utterly insane!

Any so called "adult" male who posts poo pictures on the net is a complete retard... just so you know, as KM said, nobody cares about you... fuck off child.

I never uploaded those poo pics on the net? It came at a surprise to you and I both. Kevin is an idiot and doesn’t compare to me. I have achieved more in life than the both of you combined. And trust me…it was an easy feat!

You post pictures of poo on the net... you are nothing more than a fucked up infant who never grew up. If you were my son, I'd fucking die of embarrassment.