Is anyone following the Gabby Petito saga?

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Psycho Alert!!!!

We're both mothers...the idea that someone would take from you a creature you brought into this world and nurtured, well it tears me up.

It's why I haven't been able to come to terms with the death penalty. I know intellectually it's probably bad, but man take one of my family members...I would want blood.

What a nut job.

First, calls her child a "creature".

Then, explains that she would want someone to die if they "took" one of her family members. Because...you know...she is a mother. Meanwhile, the oblivious fuckwit does not consider the fact that the person being put to death has a mother!

So, as a mother, she empathizes and understands the pain of someone losing their "creature". But she has no ability to empathize and understand that the person she wants dead also has a mother who may feel the same about her "creature".

The Leaker is a walking contradiction.
 

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This stupid fuck would have got fucked up inside. The prison gangs have a rule now about women beaters.

You romanticize how these douchebags act, but you are so far off it is not funny.

They might go after woman beaters and rapists and pedos, but it is not out of any sense of justice.

Fuck that bullshit with "The prison gangs have a code of honour."

Felons are mainly bad people who are accustomed to violence. They form gangs for protection. They create targets so they do not become the target. Woman beaters are generally alone in prison - no gang affiliations, etc.. So they are an easy target. That is all it is. They are a safe and easy target. It is not some honourable concern for women.

The same guys who will go after a woman beater are the same guys who will laugh about having a good "hate fuck" when they get out. They are the same guys who smack their own woman around.

I remember when Mike Tyson went in for rape. People said "Now he will be the one getting raped." and bullshit like that. I said "Nope, he will run the place if he wants. Nobody will touch him." Nobody touched him. They kissed the ground he walked on. They do not give a shit that he was a rapist. They gave a shit that he could fuck them up in a bad way.
 

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We could take them out of society, I suppose. I wonder what's more cruel, lifetime in prison or death?

First of all, none of us really know what is is to "die". You see, to really know, you have to die. And then you are too dead to tell anyone what it is like.

Some people do well in prison. They enjoy it. I think you would like it.

For other people, it is like torture. Almost unbearable.

For most people, it is not so extreme, one way or the other.
 

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Good. The little fucker had no right to go on living, imo.

If you have such deep-seated rage and control issues, seek help before you, too, kill someone.
The only cunts I’ll kill are those murdering innocents or women, children and the elderly for no goddamn reason.
Get that into your thick fucking liberal skull! If evil ever came looking for you LotusBottom, you’d be just another bloody victim.
 

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We could take them out of society, I suppose. I wonder what's more cruel, lifetime in prison or death?

First of all, none of us really know what is is to "die". You see, to really know, you have to die. And then you are too dead to tell anyone what it is like.

Some people do well in prison. They enjoy it. I think you would like it.

For other people, it is like torture. Almost unbearable.

For most people, it is not so extreme, one way or the other.
When you die you piss and shit yourself. When you come around again...you smell like the bowels of the Earth, and the smell is hard to scrub off.
 

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And thus a tale of two troubled souls comes to a close.

The rain falls on the heads of the just and unjust alike.

The grave welcomes all flesh in its own time, not ours.

And Dog the Bounty Hunter has a new lease on life.

Oh ffs, have I inadvertently wandered into a Hamlet appreciation thread?

Alas forsooth, Blurtrice is feeling poetic and emotional from the trauma of misplacing his favourite black dildo.... will the pain and strife of this mortal coil never end!!!
 

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Gabby Petito's father says her tragic story could help save lives
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I could only watch a minute and a half.

This guy failed his daughter. Who the fuck wants to be preached to by the father who let his daughter stay in a destructive relationship?

How about they interview a father who built a strong enough relationship with his daughter that he was the one she turned-to when she needed help?
 

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This stupid fuck would have got fucked up inside. The prison gangs have a rule now about women beaters.

You romanticize how these douchebags act, but you are so far off it is not funny.

They might go after woman beaters and rapists and pedos, but it is not out of any sense of justice.

Fuck that bullshit with "The prison gangs have a code of honour."

Felons are mainly bad people who are accustomed to violence. They form gangs for protection. They create targets so they do not become the target. Woman beaters are generally alone in prison - no gang affiliations, etc.. So they are an easy target. That is all it is. They are a safe and easy target. It is not some honourable concern for women.

The same guys who will go after a woman beater are the same guys who will laugh about having a good "hate fuck" when they get out. They are the same guys who smack their own woman around.

I remember when Mike Tyson went in for rape. People said "Now he will be the one getting raped." and bullshit like that. I said "Nope, he will run the place if he wants. Nobody will touch him." Nobody touched him. They kissed the ground he walked on. They do not give a shit that he was a rapist. They gave a shit that he could fuck them up in a bad way.


I read Mike Tyson's book twice. He got plenty of sex in prison banging some willing prison counsellor but he said the people in prison are pure psychos. Pretty much unredeemable.

Mike Tyson's story is interesting. You should read his story.
 

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This stupid fuck would have got fucked up inside. The prison gangs have a rule now about women beaters.

You romanticize how these douchebags act, but you are so far off it is not funny.

They might go after woman beaters and rapists and pedos, but it is not out of any sense of justice.

Fuck that bullshit with "The prison gangs have a code of honour."

Felons are mainly bad people who are accustomed to violence. They form gangs for protection. They create targets so they do not become the target. Woman beaters are generally alone in prison - no gang affiliations, etc.. So they are an easy target. That is all it is. They are a safe and easy target. It is not some honourable concern for women.

The same guys who will go after a woman beater are the same guys who will laugh about having a good "hate fuck" when they get out. They are the same guys who smack their own woman around.

I remember when Mike Tyson went in for rape. People said "Now he will be the one getting raped." and bullshit like that. I said "Nope, he will run the place if he wants. Nobody will touch him." Nobody touched him. They kissed the ground he walked on. They do not give a shit that he was a rapist. They gave a shit that he could fuck them up in a bad way.


I read Mike Tyson's book twice. He got plenty of sex in prison banging some willing prison counsellor but he said the people in prison are pure psychos. Pretty much unredeemable.

Mike Tyson's story is interesting. You should read his story.
You read a man's book? And apparently a rapist's book? What gives? Is rape a fetish of yours?
 

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It's interesting how the rapist label sticks to some people and not others, most people have forgotten all about Tyson being a rapist and just remember him for his boxing.
 

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Something suspicious about the parents' discovery of his remains?

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Promoting "conspiracy theories" huh?

You normally ridicule them, but I suppose with this one being reported by a left wing news source you're willing to consider it.

OMG. It totally depends on your definition of "conspiracy theory." But, I will consider any theory that makes some sense. I am not one who believes conspiracies don't exist. They do. I just think there are a lot of idiots who buy stupid shit, like QAnon and flat earth and Trump wanting to help them. Doesn't mean that 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy.
 
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I ain't Jesus, god damn it, Blurt! I want to get them up on the top of a pyramid, put them on a volcanic rock altar, take a piece of obsidian and cut their hearts out as was done by my ancient ancestors...

I can't help it!


No, I get it Lily. I swear.

But retributive justice simply leads to twice as many lights going out in the world.

There's a lot of darkness out there. Why add to it?


So they don't damage more people?


A fair point.

Rehabilitation isn't for everyone, I guess.


I wonder what's more cruel, lifetime in prison or death?


Another fair point.

There's zero chance of rehabilitation in the grave, though.

Imagine if God, faced with the wicked, wicked ways of Man, had said, "Fuck it! Y'all are goin' down to the ground!" instead of giving mankind another chance?

I'm not religious myself, but I hold very Platonic views of the Good and the Right; people do evil things, not because they're intrinsically evil (no human being is) but because they never had a chance to have someone hold their hand and walk with them for a spell on the road to the Good and the Right. At least until that moment when you can walk on that road in the light of your own soul.

Extinguishing a soul for the extinguishment of another soul diminishes the beauty and grandeur of the universe and calls upon our most atavistic urges, the ones for which, exactly, God found it necessary to forgive us.


You have a beautifully genuine heart.


I never went into criminal law for obvious reasons… but I’ve seen what pieces of shit the majority actually are and it’s hardened me when it comes to crime.


My heart is reserved for my children, family and close friends.


I hear you, Murdie.

I spent the last 25 years of my life working with hardcore hardcases in housing for the homeless, halfway houses for the recently paroled, and for post-hospitalization psychiatric aftercare service providers, and I swear I've seen so much shit that could have made me despair for the salvageability of the human race, but I've also seen darkness turn to light in corners from which I least expected it. Never happens as often as I would hope, but even one single tale of redemption is enough to make me believe that "a life for a life" is just the wrong way to go.

I know it's a minority opinion.


I totally agree. Teaching in very poor communities in the LA area, I saw a lot of despair and darkness. So many people who had been ruined by poverty, by their military service, by brutal crime, by mental health issues. But now and then I also saw that light. In particular, I had a student who had just done 29 years for murder, and he was one of the kindest, most thoughtful people I had ever met. He did his time, and he came out and went back to school at 60 to make himself a better man. We used to talk after class all the time. I'll never forget him. His humility and sense of joy around learning made a huge impact on me and on the other students. And to think he could have been put to death.
 

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This stupid fuck would have got fucked up inside. The prison gangs have a rule now about women beaters.

You romanticize how these douchebags act, but you are so far off it is not funny.

They might go after woman beaters and rapists and pedos, but it is not out of any sense of justice.

Fuck that bullshit with "The prison gangs have a code of honour."

Felons are mainly bad people who are accustomed to violence. They form gangs for protection. They create targets so they do not become the target. Woman beaters are generally alone in prison - no gang affiliations, etc.. So they are an easy target. That is all it is. They are a safe and easy target. It is not some honourable concern for women.

The same guys who will go after a woman beater are the same guys who will laugh about having a good "hate fuck" when they get out. They are the same guys who smack their own woman around.

I remember when Mike Tyson went in for rape. People said "Now he will be the one getting raped." and bullshit like that. I said "Nope, he will run the place if he wants. Nobody will touch him." Nobody touched him. They kissed the ground he walked on. They do not give a shit that he was a rapist. They gave a shit that he could fuck them up in a bad way.


I read Mike Tyson's book twice. He got plenty of sex in prison banging some willing prison counsellor but he said the people in prison are pure psychos. Pretty much unredeemable.

Mike Tyson's story is interesting. You should read his story.
You read a man's book? And apparently a rapist's book? What gives? Is rape a fetish of yours?

No but banging you over the head with a sledge hammer could become one.
 

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I ain't Jesus, god damn it, Blurt! I want to get them up on the top of a pyramid, put them on a volcanic rock altar, take a piece of obsidian and cut their hearts out as was done by my ancient ancestors...

I can't help it!


No, I get it Lily. I swear.

But retributive justice simply leads to twice as many lights going out in the world.

There's a lot of darkness out there. Why add to it?


So they don't damage more people?


A fair point.

Rehabilitation isn't for everyone, I guess.


I wonder what's more cruel, lifetime in prison or death?


Another fair point.

There's zero chance of rehabilitation in the grave, though.

Imagine if God, faced with the wicked, wicked ways of Man, had said, "Fuck it! Y'all are goin' down to the ground!" instead of giving mankind another chance?

I'm not religious myself, but I hold very Platonic views of the Good and the Right; people do evil things, not because they're intrinsically evil (no human being is) but because they never had a chance to have someone hold their hand and walk with them for a spell on the road to the Good and the Right. At least until that moment when you can walk on that road in the light of your own soul.

Extinguishing a soul for the extinguishment of another soul diminishes the beauty and grandeur of the universe and calls upon our most atavistic urges, the ones for which, exactly, God found it necessary to forgive us.


You have a beautifully genuine heart.


I never went into criminal law for obvious reasons… but I’ve seen what pieces of shit the majority actually are and it’s hardened me when it comes to crime.


My heart is reserved for my children, family and close friends.


I hear you, Murdie.

I spent the last 25 years of my life working with hardcore hardcases in housing for the homeless, halfway houses for the recently paroled, and for post-hospitalization psychiatric aftercare service providers, and I swear I've seen so much shit that could have made me despair for the salvageability of the human race, but I've also seen darkness turn to light in corners from which I least expected it. Never happens as often as I would hope, but even one single tale of redemption is enough to make me believe that "a life for a life" is just the wrong way to go.

I know it's a minority opinion.


I totally agree. Teaching in very poor communities in the LA area, I saw a lot of despair and darkness. So many people who had been ruined by poverty, by their military service, by brutal crime, by mental health issues. But now and then I also saw that light. In particular, I had a student who had just done 29 years for murder, and he was one of the kindest, most thoughtful people I had ever met. He did his time, and he came out and went back to school at 60 to make himself a better man. We used to talk after class all the time. I'll never forget him. His humility and sense of joy around learning made a huge impact on me and on the other students. And to think he could have been put to death.



These are the stories I love to read
 

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I am torn on the death penalty. I worry a lot about innocent people who are railroaded, and siutations such as when someone kills their abuser.

Forgiveness is also a powerful thing to reckon with.

But child killers? I want them dead.

Damn. Something we agree on that I wouldnt have thought we agreed on.

I support the death penalty for heinous and brutal crimes where there is no room for doubt whatsoever. Like Peter Scully. Everyday that demonic piece of shit sucks air is offensive to the rest of us.