Is anyone following the Gabby Petito saga?

[Adam Hitler]

Something suspicious about the parents' discovery of his remains?

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Promoting "conspiracy theories" huh?

You normally ridicule them, but I suppose with this one being reported by a left wing news source you're willing to consider it.

OMG. It totally depends on your definition of "conspiracy theory." But, I will consider any theory that makes some sense. I am not one who believes conspiracies don't exist. They do. I just think there are a lot of idiots who buy stupid shit, like QAnon and flat earth and Trump wanting to help them. Doesn't mean that 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy.

9/11 and Sandy Hook are the most obvious examples of so called "Conspiracy Theories" being truthful.

 

[Dove]

We could take them out of society, I suppose. I wonder what's more cruel, lifetime in prison or death?

First of all, none of us really know what is is to "die". You see, to really know, you have to die. And then you are too dead to tell anyone what it is like.

Some people do well in prison. They enjoy it. I think you would like it.

For other people, it is like torture. Almost unbearable.

For most people, it is not so extreme, one way or the other.

Chris Watts is suffering in prison. It's awesome.

If he were truly converted and remorseful he wouldnt be devoting his disgusting existence to trying to find a way to get out and trying to scam people into thinking he is all holy now.

The man threw his little girls into giant oil pipes.....just in case they were still alive, so they wouldnt be able to get out and live. He didnt even throw them in the same one so they would at least be together. So not only did he strangle them, he assigned them to a terrifying, cruel death had they managed to survive his strangling. One to face alone as well.

You cant possible be less redeemable when you've done something THAT cruel and monstrous.

Her family asked for his miserable life to be spared. So I hope everyday drags for the piece of shit.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Explain your indifference Flea!

 

[The Countess]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

It's interesting how the rapist label sticks to some people and not others, most people have forgotten all about Tyson being a rapist and just remember him for his boxing.

He isn't a rapist.

My bad, I thought that was the reason for his jail sentence.

They defend him because he's black.

 

[Lokmar]

I ain't Jesus, god damn it, Blurt! I want to get them up on the top of a pyramid, put them on a volcanic rock altar, take a piece of obsidian and cut their hearts out as was done by my ancient ancestors...

I can't help it!

No, I get it Lily. I swear.

But retributive justice simply leads to twice as many lights going out in the world.

There's a lot of darkness out there. Why add to it?

So they don't damage more people?

A fair point.

Rehabilitation isn't for everyone, I guess.

I wonder what's more cruel, lifetime in prison or death?

Another fair point.

There's zero chance of rehabilitation in the grave, though.

Imagine if God, faced with the wicked, wicked ways of Man, had said, "Fuck it! Y'all are goin' down to the ground!" instead of giving mankind another chance?

I'm not religious myself, but I hold very Platonic views of the Good and the Right; people do evil things, not because they're intrinsically evil (no human being is) but because they never had a chance to have someone hold their hand and walk with them for a spell on the road to the Good and the Right. At least until that moment when you can walk on that road in the light of your own soul.

Extinguishing a soul for the extinguishment of another soul diminishes the beauty and grandeur of the universe and calls upon our most atavistic urges, the ones for which, exactly, God found it necessary to forgive us.

We need new prison systems then. Most people that are held accountable come out worse from prison than when they went in.

We need more executions, idiot.

 

[Lokmar]

I ain't Jesus, god damn it, Blurt! I want to get them up on the top of a pyramid, put them on a volcanic rock altar, take a piece of obsidian and cut their hearts out as was done by my ancient ancestors...

I can't help it!

No, I get it Lily. I swear.

But retributive justice simply leads to twice as many lights going out in the world.

There's a lot of darkness out there. Why add to it?

So they don't damage more people?

A fair point.

Rehabilitation isn't for everyone, I guess.

I wonder what's more cruel, lifetime in prison or death?

Another fair point.

There's zero chance of rehabilitation in the grave, though.

Imagine if God, faced with the wicked, wicked ways of Man, had said, "Fuck it! Y'all are goin' down to the ground!" instead of giving mankind another chance?

I'm not religious myself, but I hold very Platonic views of the Good and the Right; people do evil things, not because they're intrinsically evil (no human being is) but because they never had a chance to have someone hold their hand and walk with them for a spell on the road to the Good and the Right. At least until that moment when you can walk on that road in the light of your own soul.

Extinguishing a soul for the extinguishment of another soul diminishes the beauty and grandeur of the universe and calls upon our most atavistic urges, the ones for which, exactly, God found it necessary to forgive us.

You mean pretty much like the account of Noah, dumb ass?

Nope.

More like the First Saying of Jesus on the Cross: "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do."

That time has passed. Read Revelation if you wanna know whats coming next.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

 

[Dove]

Gabby Petito's father says her tragic story could help save lives

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I could only watch a minute and a half.

This guy failed his daughter. Who the fuck wants to be preached to by the father who let his daughter stay in a destructive relationship?

How about they interview a father who built a strong enough relationship with his daughter that he was the one she turned-to when she needed help?

I get this but people in abusive relationships often dont know they are being abused. They really believe thier abuser is acting out because of them.

That's part of how men like this operate. They start off love bombing and idealizing thier victim. Then they start picking fights over little stupid things to train thier victim.

Gabby likely really believed she was the problem. On the police cam, you see the abuser cool as a cucumber and then you see Gabby.....shes very upset, and SHE is the one apologizing. She thinks it's all her fault.

I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

Gabby didnt know she needed help. Gabby believed his actions were HER fault. That was something was wrong with her. She believed if she just fixed what was wrong with her, he would go back to being that perfect guy who loved her more than anything and put her on a pedestal. This is why peoplr will stay with thier abusers. They've been so gaslit they think its thier fault. Like they(the abusers) really WANT to have this perfect fairytale relationship but they cant because you(the victim) are such a thoughtless fuck up. They work HARD at smearing thier targets and villianizing the target. If they cant make you believe it's all you, they will try to convince everyone else it's you....so you have no support systems.

There is probably some truth to what you are saying. If something like this happened to my daughter......the last place I would be would be on 60 minutes. At least not that soon. Maybe making her a martyr is how he is coping. Call me selfish, but if my babies life was ripped away by some scum bag, abusive scrot like that little fucker.....it would be a good long while before I cared about lives of people I dont know.

 

[Dove]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

You know that whole crusade drove a grieved father to suicide?

 

[The Countess]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

You know that whole crusade drove a grieved father to suicide?

I’ll never forget that day. I went and took my then 6 year old out of school and hugged her so tight.

 

[Dove]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

You know that whole crusade drove a grieved father to suicide?

I’ll never forget that day. I went and took my then 6 year old out of school and hugged her so tight.

Same.

 

[RAVEN]

Fuck 'em both.. They were both abusive, attention-whoring nutcases... Perfect ending for the both of 'em, imo :)

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

Fuck 'em both.. They were both abusive, attention-whoring nutcases... Perfect ending for the both of 'em, imo :)

Well said fren

 

[Adam Hitler]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

You know that whole crusade drove a grieved father to suicide?

Nope, but this is the most damning piece of evidence that crisis actors were used as "grieving" parents.

Why on earth would they use actors if it was a genuine tragedy?

 

[Dove]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

You know that whole crusade drove a grieved father to suicide?

Nope, but this is the most damning piece of evidence that crisis actors were used as "grieving" parents.

Why on earth would they use actors if it was a genuine tragedy?

This whole thing went as far as demanding children's bodies be exhumed.....a man committed suicide.

I mean let's pretend it's a conspiracy. And let it go anyway....you know? It's just so disturbing.

Our 2A rights are not gonna go down easy.

 

[The Countess]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

You know that whole crusade drove a grieved father to suicide?

Nope, but this is the most damning piece of evidence that crisis actors were used as "grieving" parents.

Why on earth would they use actors if it was a genuine tragedy?

This whole thing went as far as demanding children's bodies be exhumed.....a man committed suicide.

I mean let's pretend it's a conspiracy. And let it go anyway....you know? It's just so disturbing.

Our 2A rights are not gonna go down easy.

I think Scouse’s reluctance to believe it happened is due to some of the victims being Jewish.

 

[Dove]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

You know that whole crusade drove a grieved father to suicide?

Nope, but this is the most damning piece of evidence that crisis actors were used as "grieving" parents.

Why on earth would they use actors if it was a genuine tragedy?

This whole thing went as far as demanding children's bodies be exhumed.....a man committed suicide.

I mean let's pretend it's a conspiracy. And let it go anyway....you know? It's just so disturbing.

Our 2A rights are not gonna go down easy.

I think Scouse’s reluctance to believe it happened is due to some of the victims being Jewish.

Alex Jones really went over the edge of reason and decency with this one.

Unless there was some absolute and undeniable thing that showed this was faked....as in NO children died....I really wish this would have been left alone.

Parents of victims were so ruthlessly harrassed it was dumbfounding.

Dont get me wrong. People should ask questions. We know the media cannot be trusted. BUT just because media cant be trusted doesnt mean it's always a lie and that we CAN trust any other source.

The humanity of this was completely removed. I'm a defender of Alex Jones normally(for reasons that have nothing to do with agreeing with his content).....but he earned the lawsuits he was slapped with on this one. I view Alex Jones the same way I view Art Bell. Guilty pleasure content that's fun to listen to....but probably not reliable to believe at face value lol.

People were unbelievably fucking cruel here.

 

[Adam Hitler]

There was an excellent debunking of it all on 4chan a couple of years ago, but I didn't bother saving any of the data.

@Blazor might have some of the info.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

You know that whole crusade drove a grieved father to suicide?

Nope, but this is the most damning piece of evidence that crisis actors were used as "grieving" parents.

Why on earth would they use actors if it was a genuine tragedy?

This whole thing went as far as demanding children's bodies be exhumed.....a man committed suicide.

I mean let's pretend it's a conspiracy. And let it go anyway....you know? It's just so disturbing.

Our 2A rights are not gonna go down easy.

I think Scouse’s reluctance to believe it happened is due to some of the victims being Jewish.

Flea ffs I know you're female, but don't let ya feelz get in the way of facts...

How can you explain a father who has just lost his kid laughing and joking afterwards???

There's tons more evidence than this, but it's that long since I studied any of it that I've forgotten most of it.

I just remember arriving at the conclusion that it was 100% false flag and just another attempted gun grab by the establishment.

 

[Dove]

There was an excellent debunking of it all on 4chan a couple of years ago, but I didn't bother saving any of the data.

@Blazor might have some of the info.

I'm pretty sure I've seen it. I really dug into this. And either way we go ... it involves dead children and grieving people who were attacked by those in the general public.

It was just all fucked up and heart breaking. If it was a lie, and these kids died some other way.. we cant do anything about that. We cant change it.

And if it was a lie it will come out eventually as lies ALWAYS do.

I'll take a look at anything you guys post... but the way these families were treated is something I'm never going to get past. Like I said it was so incredibly cruel and not okay.

Imagine your little child dying at school. Being shot even. And now you have people calling you a liar, sending death threats, demanding your child's body be dug up. The 24/7 harrassment.

This really brought out the worst in people.

 

[Adam Hitler]

I wasn't aware of the harrassment etc, I just remember the obvious bullshit which was being peddled by the media.

I'll try and find that thread later, it might be archived.

 

[The Prowler]

Immediate Contradiction Alert!!!

I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

you got a link to that video? I never saw that one

But I will say this: never before in history have we had such a concentration of mass shootings in this country despite having automatic weapons for several decades

it's almost as if the Gov needs a pearl harbor or something

 

[Adam Hitler]

Explain your indifference Flea!

You think the Sandy Hook massacre never happened?

It was full of crisis actors, did you see the parent laughing and joking before being interviewed when his kid had supposedly been murdered?

The school supposedly had been derelict for months too when the alleged shootings took place.

you got a link to that video? I never saw that one

But I will say this: never before in history have we had such a concentration of mass shootings in this country despite having automatic weapons for several decades

it's almost as if the Gov needs a pearl harbor or something

 

[Dove]

Immediate Contradiction Alert!!!

I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

 

[Breakfall]

Gabby Petito's father says her tragic story could help save lives

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I could only watch a minute and a half.

This guy failed his daughter. Who the fuck wants to be preached to by the father who let his daughter stay in a destructive relationship?

How about they interview a father who built a strong enough relationship with his daughter that he was the one she turned-to when she needed help?

Yeah, I know what you mean. Some daughters are are headstrong though, and sometimes a father reasons to himself that he raised her right and that she would be able to bail out if a relationship becomes a toxic situation. All so that the father maintains a good relationship with his daughter. Had it been me, I would’ve threatened the living daylights out of him if I detected a single sign of toxicity. It’s a difficult one when it comes to your daughter’s relationships. With sons, you just tell them to wear a condom, and dip it and never soak it.

 

[Omnipotent]

It's interesting how the rapist label sticks to some people and not others, most people have forgotten all about Tyson being a rapist and just remember him for his boxing.

He isn't a rapist.

My bad, I thought that was the reason for his jail sentence.

They defend him because he's black.

He is one of the planet's heavy weight champions of the boxing world. I bet you would shit your underoos in his very presence... wtf has his skin colour got to do with anything?

If a person is guilty of rape, they should be flogged within an inch of their life... if they rape a minor, they should be executed.

When you've read Tysons autobiography THEN you can have an opinion, until then your opinion is moot.

 

[Breakfall]

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It's interesting how the rapist label sticks to some people and not others, most people have forgotten all about Tyson being a rapist and just remember him for his boxing.

He isn't a rapist.

My bad, I thought that was the reason for his jail sentence.

They defend him because he's black.

He is one of the planet's heavy weight champions of the boxing world. I bet you would shit your underoos in his very presence... wtf has his skin colour got to do with anything?

If a person is guilty of rape, they should be flogged within an inch of their life... if they rape a minor, they should be executed.

When you've read Tysons autobiography THEN you can have an opinion, until then your opinion is moot.

Old lady...Tyson isn’t in his prime. Oliver would fuck him up in a heartbeat. Do you even realise that fact you crusty lamer!?

 

[Omnipotent]

This is good. 20 minutes long. If you can watch it, do so because this was aired just before the remains of the boyfriend was found.