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Girls will always be girls and boys will always be boys and there is no way to change genders.

Deal with it, slappypants....
 

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Gender dysphoric people just need real actual help. They dont need to be some partisan mascot and used as a tool to tear down womens rights.

Transitioning doesnt help them. They will find something that triggers their dysphoria. All the surgeries and hormones in the world are not going to make them more comfortable in their skin. It's always temporary relief.

They live in a state of perpetual mental/emotional crisis. That's why they have a high suicide rate. And no.....its not societies fault they have a high suicide rate. It's because they have a tortured existence not being able to escape their dysphoria.

They are suffering and trying to enforce a radical gender ideology and making mental illness something normal that doesnt require any treatments past transition is a huge fucking mistake and it's going to do nothing but harm women and girls. And stop gender dysphoric people from getting real help.

Could you imagine if anorexia was treated like gender dysphoria? Anorexic people see themselves as fat. They starve themselves for relief from feeling fat. We are doing that to gender dysphoric people. That's not love and acceptance. That's pure hate and negligence.

Now "trans" is this huge umbrella under which autogynophilia and fetish is included so we now put predators into the "trans" category. It's incredibly harmful to everyone. And those who support this are unable or unwilling to have any real conversation because they just label any fucking counter arguments as "transphobia". Whatever.

Transgender this, transsexual that. Mental illness this, autogynephilia that. Oy vey! Who knew Doctor Dovey had a brain so full of teh knowledge! Far be it from me to call into question the authenticity of all your PhD's in Psychiatry and Clinical Psychology, Dove, but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about as you try to juggle terms you don't understand. So I propose you take a peek at what the actual experts, who've devoted years of their lives to the study of gender and sexuality, have to say on the topic. I know that clinical facts are not your forte (the pesky things always get in the way of emotions and feelings--absolute musts for conservative outrage) but perhaps truth need not be just another casualty here.

What Is Gender Dysphoria?
The term “transgender” refers to a person whose sex assigned at birth (i.e. the sex assigned by a physician at birth, usually based on external genitalia) does not match their gender identity (i.e., one’s psychological sense of their gender). Some people who are transgender will experience “gender dysphoria,” which refers to psychological distress that results from an incongruence between one’s sex assigned at birth and one’s gender identity. Though gender dysphoria often begins in childhood, some people may not experience it until after puberty or much later.

People who are transgender may pursue multiple domains of gender affirmation, including social affirmation (e.g., changing one’s name and pronouns), legal affirmation (e.g., changing gender markers on one’s government-issued documents), medical affirmation (e.g., pubertal suppression or gender-affirming hormones), and/or surgical affirmation (e.g., vaginoplasty, facial feminization surgery, breast augmentation, masculine chest reconstruction, etc.). Of note, not all people who are transgender will desire all domains of gender affirmation, as these are highly personal and individual decisions.

It is important to note that gender identity is different from gender expression. Whereas gender identity refers to one’s psychological sense of their gender, gender expression refers to the way in which one presents to the world in a gendered way. For example, in much of the U.S., wearing a dress is considered a “feminine” gender expression, and wearing a tuxedo is considered a “masculine” gender expression. Such expectations are culturally defined and vary across time and culture. One’s gender expression does not necessarily align with their gender identity. Diverse gender expressions, much like diverse gender identities, are not indications of a mental disorder.

Gender identity is also different from sexual orientation. Sexual orientation refers to the types of people towards which one is sexually attracted. People who are transgender have the same diversity of sexual orientations as people who are cisgender (people whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity).
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Over the last decade, psychologist Ray Blanchard’s autogynephilia theory has been increasingly cited within trans-exclusionary radical feminism. The concept appears to have first entered trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF) discourses through Sheila Jeffreys’ writings. It has since become a recurring talking point on ‘gender critical’ websites such as 4thWaveNow, r/GenderCritical (a subsection of the website Reddit), Mumsnet, and others, where it is usually invoked to insinuate that trans women are merely ‘sexually deviant men’. In such settings, autogynephilia is typically presented as though it were well-established scientific dogma, when in reality the theory has never been widely accepted within sexology and psychology, and numerous follow-up studies have disproven its primary claims. Furthermore, trans-exclusionary feminists’ uncritical embrace of autogynephilia contradicts the long history of feminist scholarship critiquing the ways in which scientific research and theories are often overly reductionist, and riddled with androcentric and heteronormative biases.
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Are you trying to refute something she said?

You really have to try to be a little more specific. So I can help you understand....
 

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Logic and reality need no source.

Girls will always be girls and boys will always be boys and there is no way to change genders.

Deal with it, slappypants....
Dumb fucks need a source to tell them it's raining outside they're so irretrievably dumb
 

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so transgenderism like some transporter accident in Star Trek where a guy's atoms are mixed up with the woman's atoms and they end up in the wrong body cause the transporter chief fucked up.

so the man has "magical girl essence" in his body and is a now a woman trapped in a man's body and the woman has "magical guy essence" in her body and is a now a man trapped in a woman's body.

or maybe these men have been reincarnated and in their past life they were woman and now they come back as a man and that confuses them because they have memories of being a woman.

what sorcery is this?
 

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so transgenderism like some transporter accident in Star Trek where a guy's atoms are mixed up with the woman's atoms and they end up in the wrong body cause the transporter chief fucked up.

so the man has "magical girl essence" in his body and is a now a woman trapped in a man's body and the woman has "magical guy essence" in her body and is a now a man trapped in a woman's body.

or maybe these men have been reincarnated and in their past life they were woman and now they come back as a man and that confuses them because they have memories of being a woman.

what sorcery is this?

I believe that men and women are reincarnated, but not always in their usual genders. It's a choice....and they have to deal with those choices should it not feel right or seems at odds to them.

If somebody feels wrong this go.... they need to get on with this life and chose differently in the next one.

I've got no sympathy... get busy living or get busy dying.
 

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Kill em and we can worry about more normal things. Like killing murderers.

So if your kids were saved by a lesbian or gay couple who have predominantly Christian Conservative values during a weird cataclysm situation, you'd not thank them but kill them?
 

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Bring up science--an evidence-based activity--and people dive in with science fiction, religious bigotry, sorcery, and reincarnation.

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So girls can be boys, boys can be girls, anybody can be a unicorn or an attack chopper.....cuz science, logic, and reason?
 

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Gender dysphoric people just need real actual help. They dont need to be some partisan mascot and used as a tool to tear down womens rights.

Transitioning doesnt help them. They will find something that triggers their dysphoria. All the surgeries and hormones in the world are not going to make them more comfortable in their skin. It's always temporary relief.

They live in a state of perpetual mental/emotional crisis. That's why they have a high suicide rate. And no.....its not societies fault they have a high suicide rate. It's because they have a tortured existence not being able to escape their dysphoria.

They are suffering and trying to enforce a radical gender ideology and making mental illness something normal that doesnt require any treatments past transition is a huge fucking mistake and it's going to do nothing but harm women and girls. And stop gender dysphoric people from getting real help.

Could you imagine if anorexia was treated like gender dysphoria? Anorexic people see themselves as fat. They starve themselves for relief from feeling fat. We are doing that to gender dysphoric people. That's not love and acceptance. That's pure hate and negligence.

Now "trans" is this huge umbrella under which autogynophilia and fetish is included so we now put predators into the "trans" category. It's incredibly harmful to everyone. And those who support this are unable or unwilling to have any real conversation because they just label any fucking counter arguments as "transphobia". Whatever.

Transgender this, transsexual that. Mental illness this, autogynephilia that. Oy vey! Who knew Doctor Dovey had a brain so full of teh knowledge! Far be it from me to call into question the authenticity of all your PhD's in Psychiatry and Clinical Psychology, Dove, but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about as you try to juggle terms you don't understand. So I propose you take a peek at what the actual experts, who've devoted years of their lives to the study of gender and sexuality, have to say on the topic. I know that clinical facts are not your forte (the pesky things always get in the way of emotions and feelings--absolute musts for conservative outrage) but perhaps truth need not be just another casualty here.

What Is Gender Dysphoria?
The term “transgender” refers to a person whose sex assigned at birth (i.e. the sex assigned by a physician at birth, usually based on external genitalia) does not match their gender identity (i.e., one’s psychological sense of their gender). Some people who are transgender will experience “gender dysphoria,” which refers to psychological distress that results from an incongruence between one’s sex assigned at birth and one’s gender identity. Though gender dysphoria often begins in childhood, some people may not experience it until after puberty or much later.

People who are transgender may pursue multiple domains of gender affirmation, including social affirmation (e.g., changing one’s name and pronouns), legal affirmation (e.g., changing gender markers on one’s government-issued documents), medical affirmation (e.g., pubertal suppression or gender-affirming hormones), and/or surgical affirmation (e.g., vaginoplasty, facial feminization surgery, breast augmentation, masculine chest reconstruction, etc.). Of note, not all people who are transgender will desire all domains of gender affirmation, as these are highly personal and individual decisions.

It is important to note that gender identity is different from gender expression. Whereas gender identity refers to one’s psychological sense of their gender, gender expression refers to the way in which one presents to the world in a gendered way. For example, in much of the U.S., wearing a dress is considered a “feminine” gender expression, and wearing a tuxedo is considered a “masculine” gender expression. Such expectations are culturally defined and vary across time and culture. One’s gender expression does not necessarily align with their gender identity. Diverse gender expressions, much like diverse gender identities, are not indications of a mental disorder.

Gender identity is also different from sexual orientation. Sexual orientation refers to the types of people towards which one is sexually attracted. People who are transgender have the same diversity of sexual orientations as people who are cisgender (people whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity).
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Over the last decade, psychologist Ray Blanchard’s autogynephilia theory has been increasingly cited within trans-exclusionary radical feminism. The concept appears to have first entered trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF) discourses through Sheila Jeffreys’ writings. It has since become a recurring talking point on ‘gender critical’ websites such as 4thWaveNow, r/GenderCritical (a subsection of the website Reddit), Mumsnet, and others, where it is usually invoked to insinuate that trans women are merely ‘sexually deviant men’. In such settings, autogynephilia is typically presented as though it were well-established scientific dogma, when in reality the theory has never been widely accepted within sexology and psychology, and numerous follow-up studies have disproven its primary claims. Furthermore, trans-exclusionary feminists’ uncritical embrace of autogynephilia contradicts the long history of feminist scholarship critiquing the ways in which scientific research and theories are often overly reductionist, and riddled with androcentric and heteronormative biases.
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Interesting choice of sources that fall into political bias.

Let's see something more primary on those comments about autogynophilia. Something less focused on "these feminists are wrong".

Since women now have to shut up and we have to accept men claiming to be women coming into female spaces and preying on us.

Transexual stopped being a sexual fetish and paraphilia now that activists have demanded so?
 

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"Autogynephilia is defined as a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female. It is the paraphilia that is theorized to underlie transvestism and some forms of male-to-female (MtF) transsexualism. Autogynephilia encompasses sexual arousal with cross-dressing and cross-gender expression that does not involve women's clothing per se. The concept of autogynephilia defines a typology of MtF transsexualism and offers a theory of motivation for one type of MtF transsexualism. Autogynephilia resembles a sexual orientation in that it involves elements of idealization and attachment as well as erotic desire. Nearly 3% of men in Western countries may experience autogynephilia; its most severe manifestation, MtF transsexualism, is rare but increasing in prevalence. Some theorists and clinicians reject the transsexual typology and theory of motivation derived from autogynephilia; their objections suggest a need for additional research. The concept of autogynephilia can assist clinicians in understanding some otherwise puzzling manifestations of nonhomosexual MtF transsexualism. Autogynephilia exemplifies an unusual paraphilic category called 'erotic target identity inversions', in which men desire to impersonate or turn their bodies into facsimiles of the persons or things to which they are sexually attracted"

So this is just now some fake thing "terfs" talk about just because they are big meanies who hate science and hate people who are different. Definately no one is REALLY worried about safety and dignity and the assaults that happen in female spaces. Nope. We just hate other people. For the hell of it.

Right.
 

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There is no argument that this is a sexual fetish for many. People who are medically gender dysphoric are not the ones who are attacking women and fighting for men to be allowed under the "woman" definition. They know they are trans.
 

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Bring up science--an evidence-based activity--and people dive in with science fiction, religious bigotry, sorcery, and reincarnation.

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Truly, Americans are lost.

LOL you fancy yourself as that guy, huh Blurty boi? Or so your avvy would suggest...

I don't know why you're singling out Americans, most of Team Soy, who share your liberal leftist views, are from the US.
 

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Gender dysphoric people just need real actual help. They dont need to be some partisan mascot and used as a tool to tear down womens rights.

Transitioning doesnt help them. They will find something that triggers their dysphoria. All the surgeries and hormones in the world are not going to make them more comfortable in their skin. It's always temporary relief.

They live in a state of perpetual mental/emotional crisis. That's why they have a high suicide rate. And no.....its not societies fault they have a high suicide rate. It's because they have a tortured existence not being able to escape their dysphoria.

They are suffering and trying to enforce a radical gender ideology and making mental illness something normal that doesnt require any treatments past transition is a huge fucking mistake and it's going to do nothing but harm women and girls. And stop gender dysphoric people from getting real help.

Could you imagine if anorexia was treated like gender dysphoria? Anorexic people see themselves as fat. They starve themselves for relief from feeling fat. We are doing that to gender dysphoric people. That's not love and acceptance. That's pure hate and negligence.

Now "trans" is this huge umbrella under which autogynophilia and fetish is included so we now put predators into the "trans" category. It's incredibly harmful to everyone. And those who support this are unable or unwilling to have any real conversation because they just label any fucking counter arguments as "transphobia". Whatever.

Transgender this, transsexual that. Mental illness this, autogynephilia that. Oy vey! Who knew Doctor Dovey had a brain so full of teh knowledge! Far be it from me to call into question the authenticity of all your PhD's in Psychiatry and Clinical Psychology, Dove, but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about as you try to juggle terms you don't understand. So I propose you take a peek at what the actual experts, who've devoted years of their lives to the study of gender and sexuality, have to say on the topic. I know that clinical facts are not your forte (the pesky things always get in the way of emotions and feelings--absolute musts for conservative outrage) but perhaps truth need not be just another casualty here.

What Is Gender Dysphoria?
The term “transgender” refers to a person whose sex assigned at birth (i.e. the sex assigned by a physician at birth, usually based on external genitalia) does not match their gender identity (i.e., one’s psychological sense of their gender). Some people who are transgender will experience “gender dysphoria,” which refers to psychological distress that results from an incongruence between one’s sex assigned at birth and one’s gender identity. Though gender dysphoria often begins in childhood, some people may not experience it until after puberty or much later.

People who are transgender may pursue multiple domains of gender affirmation, including social affirmation (e.g., changing one’s name and pronouns), legal affirmation (e.g., changing gender markers on one’s government-issued documents), medical affirmation (e.g., pubertal suppression or gender-affirming hormones), and/or surgical affirmation (e.g., vaginoplasty, facial feminization surgery, breast augmentation, masculine chest reconstruction, etc.). Of note, not all people who are transgender will desire all domains of gender affirmation, as these are highly personal and individual decisions.

It is important to note that gender identity is different from gender expression. Whereas gender identity refers to one’s psychological sense of their gender, gender expression refers to the way in which one presents to the world in a gendered way. For example, in much of the U.S., wearing a dress is considered a “feminine” gender expression, and wearing a tuxedo is considered a “masculine” gender expression. Such expectations are culturally defined and vary across time and culture. One’s gender expression does not necessarily align with their gender identity. Diverse gender expressions, much like diverse gender identities, are not indications of a mental disorder.

Gender identity is also different from sexual orientation. Sexual orientation refers to the types of people towards which one is sexually attracted. People who are transgender have the same diversity of sexual orientations as people who are cisgender (people whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity).
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Over the last decade, psychologist Ray Blanchard’s autogynephilia theory has been increasingly cited within trans-exclusionary radical feminism. The concept appears to have first entered trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF) discourses through Sheila Jeffreys’ writings. It has since become a recurring talking point on ‘gender critical’ websites such as 4thWaveNow, r/GenderCritical (a subsection of the website Reddit), Mumsnet, and others, where it is usually invoked to insinuate that trans women are merely ‘sexually deviant men’. In such settings, autogynephilia is typically presented as though it were well-established scientific dogma, when in reality the theory has never been widely accepted within sexology and psychology, and numerous follow-up studies have disproven its primary claims. Furthermore, trans-exclusionary feminists’ uncritical embrace of autogynephilia contradicts the long history of feminist scholarship critiquing the ways in which scientific research and theories are often overly reductionist, and riddled with androcentric and heteronormative biases.
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Are you trying to refute something she said?

You really have to try to be a little more specific. So I can help you understand....

His sources had a strong leftwing politics flavor. Definitely not objective as they included a lot of unessesary rhetoric.

It's a really touchy subject especially with so many activists and orgs involved mudding up what used to be clear distinctions.

No amount of hair splitting changes that men with a sexual fetish for appropriating women are using trans politcs to prey on women and girls. Like Jessica Yaniv.....as a well known example of a male predator. Basically straight men.
 

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There is no argument that this is a sexual fetish for many. People who are medically gender dysphoric are not the ones who are attacking women and fighting for men to be allowed under the "woman" definition. They know they are trans.

Trannies are just homosexual men who have chosen to transform themselves into a woman, or at least the Frankenstein equivalent.... I don't buy the "born in the wrong body" schtick, it's just an excuse to justify their mental illness.
 

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"Autogynephilia is defined as a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female. It is the paraphilia that is theorized to underlie transvestism and some forms of male-to-female (MtF) transsexualism. Autogynephilia encompasses sexual arousal with cross-dressing and cross-gender expression that does not involve women's clothing per se. The concept of autogynephilia defines a typology of MtF transsexualism and offers a theory of motivation for one type of MtF transsexualism. Autogynephilia resembles a sexual orientation in that it involves elements of idealization and attachment as well as erotic desire. Nearly 3% of men in Western countries may experience autogynephilia; its most severe manifestation, MtF transsexualism, is rare but increasing in prevalence. Some theorists and clinicians reject the transsexual typology and theory of motivation derived from autogynephilia; their objections suggest a need for additional research. The concept of autogynephilia can assist clinicians in understanding some otherwise puzzling manifestations of nonhomosexual MtF transsexualism. Autogynephilia exemplifies an unusual paraphilic category called 'erotic target identity inversions', in which men desire to impersonate or turn their bodies into facsimiles of the persons or things to which they are sexually attracted"

So this is just now some fake thing "terfs" talk about just because they are big meanies who hate science and hate people who are different. Definately no one is REALLY worried about safety and dignity and the assaults that happen in female spaces. Nope. We just hate other people. For the hell of it.

Right.

Quoting people who self-identify as autogynephilic transsexuals now?

I'll claim that win, Dovey. :ThumbsUp1:
 

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You people don't read too good, do ya?

The source is the American Psychiatric Association, the body that governs, you know, specialists in mental illness.

Your CNN troll is getting as old as your Boy George hat and pink velvet sweatpants, Scouse.
 

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There is no argument that this is a sexual fetish for many. People who are medically gender dysphoric are not the ones who are attacking women and fighting for men to be allowed under the "woman" definition. They know they are trans.

Trannies are just homosexual men who have chosen to transform themselves into a woman, or at least the Frankenstein equivalent.... I don't buy the "born in the wrong body" schtick, it's just an excuse to justify their mental illness.

There is some version of the afterlife and I truly believe that we recycle back and forth in different bodies....

...so as such I can totally believe souls carry remnants of past lives and instincts.... but we never fostered them before now in this day and age.