Pact for the Continuation of Colonization: Africa & France

[Lily]

Dr. Arikana Chihombori-Quao

 

[The New Holliday]

She seems angry. I had the sound off, but it must be shill.
.. Have you verified anything she said?

 

[Lily]

She seems angry. I had the sound off, but it must be shill.
.. Have you verified anything she said?

Yes.

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[The New Holliday]

Yes.

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So France should stay there and not decolonize? Colonization good?

 

[Lily]

So France should stay there and not decolonize? Colonization good?

No, France should stop exploiting and taking the money of African countries. Now, if you don't want to listen to what she had to say because "angry black woman" is scary, then perhaps we don't need to be having a conversation where you are uninformed about what she is saying.

 

[The New Holliday]

No, France should stop exploiting and taking the money of African countries. Now, if you don't want to listen to what she had to say because "angry black woman" is scary, then perhaps we don't need to be having a conversation where you are uninformed about what she is saying.

I asked you to verify what she was saying re: Billions of dollars etc.
Yes - what I see is not scary, but disgusting. She sooo angry about having been born a black woman.
..and she hates western civilization so much she should quit culturally appropriating hair style and tailored suits.
The fact is that w/o colonization a good portion of the world's people would still be living as they were 200,000 years ago - give that lady a spear and afro and she'll be all smiles I suppose. They have been raised up (or could have been if they were capable of civilizing) - ask the Congolese who lament the passing of Dutch colonization.
They can't even figure out how to cultivate food so are inviting white farmers back to Africa after kicking them out, never mind developing sophisticated stuff like how to pump water from the ground. People need to take responsibility for the situation they are born into rather than blaming everyone else. They earned their place among humanity..as do we all.
..I don't see anyone crying about the Arab muslim colonization of the ME and Africa. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't white so it's okay. LoLz

 

[Lily]

I asked you to verify what she was saying re: Billions of dollars etc.
Yes - what I see is not scary, but disgusting. She sooo angry about having been born a black woman.
..and she hates western civilization so much she should quit culturally appropriating hair style and tailored suits.
The fact is that w/o colonization a good portion of the world's people would still be living as they were 200,000 years ago - give that lady a spear and afro and she'll be all smiles I suppose. They have been raised up (or could have been if they were capable of civilizing) - ask the Congolese who lament the passing of Dutch colonization.
They can't even figure out how to cultivate food so are inviting white farmers back to Africa after kicking them out, never mind developing sophisticated stuff like how to pump water from the ground. People need to take responsibility for the situation they are born into rather than blaming everyone else. They earned their place among humanity..as do we all.
..I don't see anyone crying about the Arab muslim colonization of the ME and Africa. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't white so it's okay. LoLz

Oh a button was pushed but it's her fault, surely.

 

[Lily]

Anger at injustice is righteous anger.

Anger is a normal human emotion.

 

[The New Holliday]

Just curious, when did sub Saharan Africans invent the wheel? LoLz
Answer - Never.
Written language(?) - maybe as early as the 4th century. Of course the rest of the world's people were developing writing around 3000 BCE.
Some people get left behind by evolution being primitive and arcane in type. The evolutionary process of human development produces new and better (more advanced) types, while others languish and ultimately disappear.
It will be that way to the very end.

 

[LotusBud]

I asked you to verify what she was saying re: Billions of dollars etc.
Yes - what I see is not scary, but disgusting. She sooo angry about having been born a black woman.
..and she hates western civilization so much she should quit culturally appropriating hair style and tailored suits.
The fact is that w/o colonization a good portion of the world's people would still be living as they were 200,000 years ago - give that lady a spear and afro and she'll be all smiles I suppose. They have been raised up (or could have been if they were capable of civilizing) - ask the Congolese who lament the passing of Dutch colonization.
They can't even figure out how to cultivate food so are inviting white farmers back to Africa after kicking them out, never mind developing sophisticated stuff like how to pump water from the ground. People need to take responsibility for the situation they are born into rather than blaming everyone else. They earned their place among humanity..as do we all.
..I don't see anyone crying about the Arab muslim colonization of the ME and Africa. Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't white so it's okay. LoLz

Jesus Cheeeeerist.

Her anger = blowback. Anyone with half a brain could have predicted her, and much, much worse.

 

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[Lily]

Just curious, when did sub Saharan Africans invent the wheel? LoLz
Answer - Never.
Written language(?) - maybe as early as the 4th century. Of course the rest of the world's people were developing writing around 3000 BCE.
Some people get left behind by evolution being primitive and arcane in type. The evolutionary process of human development produces new and better (more advanced) types, while others languish and ultimately disappear.
It will be that way to the very end.

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[The New Holliday]

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Mesopotamia - 3500 BCE. Heck, many parts of Africa didn't even have the wheel until colonial times.
Egypt introduced the wheel to Nubia.
Oh, and no, Egyptians were not sub-Saharan Africans or at all closely related.
Your own link notes that Berbers were responsible for introducing it to sub-Saharan African tribes.

They look kinda fair.

 

[The Atomic Punk]

Yes.

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Noooooooo, you provided someone else's viewpoint and analysis.

What the article clearly notes is how destabilized those countries are and how dependent they were on France economically as for security

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Furthermore the claim made by what you demean as an angry black woman made the claim that concrete was poured in the sewers.....you think something that bad by the white man might turn up in a simple search

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Nope!

They did unscrew light buld and take plans for infrastructure projects......

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Apparently with no plans and the inability screw the light bulbs back in, there was nothing left to do but descend into a dictatorship and poverty.

Do you spend your day looking for things to quief about?

Seems like it.

 

[Lily]

Mesopotamia - 3500 BCE. Heck, many parts of Africa didn't even have the wheel until colonial times.
Egypt introduced the wheel to Nubia.
Oh, and no, Egyptians were not sub-Saharan Africans or at all closely related.
Your own link notes that Berbers were responsible for introducing it to sub-Saharan African tribes.

They look kinda fair.

Selective reading. How 2006

 

[Lily]

Noooooooo, you provided someone else's viewpoint and analysis.

What the article clearly notes is how destabilized those countries are and how dependent they were on France economically as for security

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Furthermore the claim made by what you demean as an angry black woman made the claim that concrete was poured in the sewers.....you think something that bad by the white man might turn up in a simple search

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Nope!

They did unscrew light buld and take plans for infrastructure projects......

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Apparently with no plans and the inability screw the light bulbs back in, there was nothing left to do but descend into a dictatorship and poverty.

Do you spend your day looking for things to quief about?

Seems like it.

Spin and more spin.

 

[The New Holliday]

Selective reading. How 2006

Just the facts, ma'am. Just the facts.

 

[Fantom]

Just curious, when did sub Saharan Africans invent the wheel? LoLz
Answer - Never.
Written language(?) - maybe as early as the 4th century. Of course the rest of the world's people were developing writing around 3000 BCE.
Some people get left behind by evolution being primitive and arcane in type. The evolutionary process of human development produces new and better (more advanced) types, while others languish and ultimately disappear.
It will be that way to the very end.

You're an absolute buffoon if you think that Africans are less technologically advanced than Europeans and Arabs because they didn't invent the wheel.


First off, Africans DID have wheels, they where used in children's toys, there are also several African Pictographs that depict the wheel being used in daily life. Such as this depiction of a wheeled chariot found in modern-day Libya:

Here's a few reasons why they didn't use wheels for transportation:

1: Geography:

Camels where a superior form of transportation for millennia, negating the need to use wheels. Camels where used instead of wheels largely because they where easier to maintain, easy to procure, could go long distances without stopping, and where far better at traversing the terrain of Arabia, north and east Africa, and as well as Persia and Northern India.

Even in Europe, for the majority of history, the wheel was not the preferred method of transporting goods, they used water to transport goods.

2: Lack Of "Strong" Animals.

Similarly to the Americas, even if the Africans did use wheeled transport, they would have had no animals to pull the carts. Throughout places like Anatolia where the wheel and the camel co-existed as methods of transport, Horses where available to those who chose wheeled transport. The Tsetse fly and sleeping sickness prevented livestock from being kept (including horses.) throughout much of Africa, especially sub-Saharan Africa.

In places of Africa where herders did keep livestock, Wagons simply were not necessary. Why on earth would you need a wagon to transport goods to a market when you could literally have your product (cattle) walk to the market itself?

 

[Lily]

You're an absolute buffoon if you think that Africans are less technologically advanced than Europeans and Arabs because they didn't invent the wheel.


First off, Africans DID have wheels, they where used in children's toys, there are also several African Pictographs that depict the wheel being used in daily life. Such as this depiction of a wheeled chariot found in modern-day Libya:

Here's a few reasons why they didn't use wheels for transportation:

1: Geography:

Camels where a superior form of transportation for millennia, negating the need to use wheels. Camels where used instead of wheels largely because they where easier to maintain, easy to procure, could go long distances without stopping, and where far better at traversing the terrain of Arabia, north and east Africa, and as well as Persia and Northern India.

Even in Europe, for the majority of history, the wheel was not the preferred method of transporting goods, they used water to transport goods.

2: Lack Of "Strong" Animals.

Similarly to the Americas, even if the Africans did use wheeled transport, they would have had no animals to pull the carts. Throughout places like Anatolia where the wheel and the camel co-existed as methods of transport, Horses where available to those who chose wheeled transport. The Tsetse fly and sleeping sickness prevented livestock from being kept (including horses.) throughout much of Africa, especially sub-Saharan Africa.

In places of Africa where herders did keep livestock, Wagons simply were not necessary. Why on earth would you need a wagon to transport goods to a market when you could literally have your product (cattle) walk to the market itself?

I just didn't want to waste my energy on his sort of bigotry and idiocy. I've been doing it for too many years. Good job pushing back.

 

[The New Holliday]

because they didn't invent the wheel.

That's right, they didn't. Did I not make clear that they made use of the wheel once they were showed how?

 

[Fantom]

That's right, they didn't. Did I not make clear that they made use of the wheel once they were showed how?

This is 1 thing that you said in order to supplement your primary proposition, which is as follows:

Some people get left behind by evolution being primitive and arcane in type. The evolutionary process of human development produces new and better (more advanced) types, while others languish and ultimately disappear.
It will be that way to the very end.

Until the late 18th and 19th centuries, especially the late 19th century, African nations had no need whatsoever to use the wheel as their primary method of transportation. It wasn't until the westernization and consequential industrialization of portions of Africa through the 18th and especially the 19th century that they began using wheels, and then it was only because their European colonizers built infrastructure that made the wheel a suitable form of transportation, as well as establishing institutions to maintain infrastructure that was almost exclusively constructed in order to exploit african resources, such as salt, gold, and diamonds, even at the cost of millions upon millions of lives. See King Leopold II of Belgium and his rule of the Belgian Congo for the most prolific example.

 

[The New Holliday]

This is 1 thing that you said in order to supplement your primary proposition, which is as follows:


Until the late 18th and 19th centuries, especially the late 19th century, African nations had no need whatsoever to use the wheel as their primary method of transportation. It wasn't until the westernization and consequential industrialization of portions of Africa through the 18th and especially the 19th century that they began using wheels, and then it was only because their European colonizers built infrastructure that made the wheel a suitable form of transportation, as well as establishing institutions to maintain infrastructure that was almost exclusively constructed in order to exploit african resources, such as salt, gold, and diamonds, even at the cost of millions upon millions of lives. See King Leopold II of Belgium and his rule of the Belgian Congo for the most prolific example.

Rightoh - that's how "slow" they were. They had to be dragged into the 19th century from the 150th millenium BCE. That was my point. Thanks for confirming.