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Ivermectin is routinely used in Japan specifically for early cases of covid 19. Pfizer's "new" drug literally mimics ivermectin and binds to the exact same site.
Why are you lying again, Oderstink?
Answer: Because it's what you and your conservative troll brethren and sistren do.
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What a red herring. No one claimed they ditched vaccines, dumb ass. You are so fucking stupid you don't even know what you are arguing against. Watch the video, educate yourself, and try to stop being such a fucking idiot.

Specifically what he said was that it was not officially approved by authorities in Japan but that it was recommended by the largest and most influential medical association in Japan as an off label therapeutic recommended for covid cases which are detected early. Which is exactly what happened. That leftist degenerates then post horse shit arguing against things no one ever said just shows how lazy and dishonest your said is.
First he lies, then he moves the goal posts.

You are such a degenerate liar. All you do is lie. The sad thing is you truly don't even know what anyone else's position is despite them clearly saying it over and over.
 

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@Bastard Factory - I asked a serious question and these fools are starting their shit in my thread.


I didn’t ask for google results. Did anyone hear it from a fucking doctor. Don’t come in my thread starting your political bullshit.

You posted it in Politics though. Strange.



No I didn’t. I posted it in General and it was moved after these fuck heads started their shit.



How is that strange?

My bad, I didn't know it had been moved.
 

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post horse shit arguing against things no one ever said
Conservatives do that to me 20x a day when I'm not even in the discussion they are so obsessed with lying about and misrepresenting my positions. It gets so crazy that one deranged poster actually said I hate Jesus without offering any evidence of it.

Not even a Link?.

 

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Claim: Doctors in Japan and the US are using ivermectin for early Covid treatment

Lefties: Nuh UH! *posts link that says they didnt ditch vaccines for ivermectin*

*post link that says Iver isnt yet approved for Covid treament*

*posts a political advocacy group that says they dont think doctors should use it to prevent or treat moderate/severe covid*

Claim that doctors in Japan and US are using Iver in early Covid treatment as part of a protocol still not addressed.

How the fuck do these guys not ever understand what is being said?! We are all speaking English right?
 

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@Bastard Factory - I asked a serious question and these fools are starting their shit in my thread.


I didn’t ask for google results. Did anyone hear it from a fucking doctor. Don’t come in my thread starting your political bullshit.
"I don't trust google, only guys in chat rooms that are racist porn addicts"


@Bastard Factory , this fool just called you and your forum “racist porn addicts”.
. Look, stupid - you got an answer from a highly reputable clinical source.
I gave you what you asked for, now quit the bullshit teenager troll crap, and grow up.


No you look, fucking idiot


If you had stated “doctors say you can or cannot get it twice depending on vaccine status, then maybe, I might have believed your intentions were good. Instead, you and your faggot in crime started with the vaccine politics. Stfu


I do want to clear one thing up. Most doctors turn to resources like the CDC, NIH, and other heath institutions in the US for direction.

See, when there isn't a pandemic they are dealing with chronic diseases/conditions most of their time. When there is an outbreak, they turn to these institutions. When there is a pandemic they turn to these institutions as well.

The large institutions have epidemiologists, virologists, infectious disease specialists, disease investigators, etc, etc etc

A doctor practices medicine. The experts study and research and organize responses to major health care problems.

That should help you understand, without politics, how the system here works.
..and then they do a comedy routine on youtube to get the word out, am I right?
 

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Ivermectin is routinely used in Japan specifically for early cases of covid 19. Pfizer's "new" drug literally mimics ivermectin and binds to the exact same site.
Why are you lying again, Oderstink?
Answer: Because it's what you and your conservative troll brethren and sistren do.
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What a red herring. No one claimed they ditched vaccines, dumb ass. You are so fucking stupid you don't even know what you are arguing against. Watch the video, educate yourself, and try to stop being such a fucking idiot.

Specifically what he said was that it was not officially approved by authorities in Japan but that it was recommended by the largest and most influential medical association in Japan as an off label therapeutic recommended for covid cases which are detected early. Which is exactly what happened. That leftist degenerates then post horse shit arguing against things no one ever said just shows how lazy and dishonest your said is.
First he lies, then he moves the goal posts.

You are such a degenerate liar. All you do is lie. The sad thing is you truly don't even know what anyone else's position is despite them clearly saying it over and over.

Are they lying though or do they genuinely not understand what is being said?

I honestly dont think they read anything before they try to argue it.

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@Bastard Factory - I asked a serious question and these fools are starting their shit in my thread.


I didn’t ask for google results. Did anyone hear it from a fucking doctor. Don’t come in my thread starting your political bullshit.
"I don't trust google, only guys in chat rooms that are racist porn addicts"


@Bastard Factory , this fool just called you and your forum “racist porn addicts”.
. Look, stupid - you got an answer from a highly reputable clinical source.
I gave you what you asked for, now quit the bullshit teenager troll crap, and grow up.


No you look, fucking idiot


If you had stated “doctors say you can or cannot get it twice depending on vaccine status, then maybe, I might have believed your intentions were good. Instead, you and your faggot in crime started with the vaccine politics. Stfu


I do want to clear one thing up. Most doctors turn to resources like the CDC, NIH, and other heath institutions in the US for direction.

See, when there isn't a pandemic they are dealing with chronic diseases/conditions most of their time. When there is an outbreak, they turn to these institutions. When there is a pandemic they turn to these institutions as well.

The large institutions have epidemiologists, virologists, infectious disease specialists, disease investigators, etc, etc etc

A doctor practices medicine. The experts study and research and organize responses to major health care problems.

That should help you understand, without politics, how the system here works.
..and then they do a comedy routine on youtube to get the word out, am I right?

Sometimes they absolutely do. They also do podcasts.

Why do you have such a problem with that?
 

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@Bastard Factory - I asked a serious question and these fools are starting their shit in my thread.


I didn’t ask for google results. Did anyone hear it from a fucking doctor. Don’t come in my thread starting your political bullshit.
"I don't trust google, only guys in chat rooms that are racist porn addicts"


@Bastard Factory , this fool just called you and your forum “racist porn addicts”.
. Look, stupid - you got an answer from a highly reputable clinical source.
I gave you what you asked for, now quit the bullshit teenager troll crap, and grow up.


No you look, fucking idiot


If you had stated “doctors say you can or cannot get it twice depending on vaccine status, then maybe, I might have believed your intentions were good. Instead, you and your faggot in crime started with the vaccine politics. Stfu


I do want to clear one thing up. Most doctors turn to resources like the CDC, NIH, and other heath institutions in the US for direction.

See, when there isn't a pandemic they are dealing with chronic diseases/conditions most of their time. When there is an outbreak, they turn to these institutions. When there is a pandemic they turn to these institutions as well.

The large institutions have epidemiologists, virologists, infectious disease specialists, disease investigators, etc, etc etc

A doctor practices medicine. The experts study and research and organize responses to major health care problems.

That should help you understand, without politics, how the system here works.
..and then they do a comedy routine on youtube to get the word out, am I right?


Totally!

If it's not on twitter and youtube, it's just not legitimate.
 

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Oh muh lort!!! Well guys Dr Z uses humor to spread info and awareness. So that means all his education and experience and his medical expertise is garbage!

Dont listen to anyone on YouTube is they exist on Youtube or use comedy they clearly have no credibility!!

You need to read Slate! Get you some leftard opinion pieces! In fact they should nursing credits to Slate readers and drop this YouTube dummy dum who clearly knows nothing!



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Japan is not using ivermectin to cure COVID-19. It continues to vaccinate people.

Many people on social media claim that Japan is allowing doctors to treat COVID-19 patients with ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug. However, this is not true as the Japanese government has not included ivermectin in the list of medicines to treat COVID-19.

Several fact checking organizations, including AP News and PolitiFact have debunked this claim. According to AP News, Japan continues to vaccinate people and "has not authorized ivermectin for treating COVID-19."

PolitiFact reported that although Haruo Ozaki, Tokyo Medical Association's chairman, recommended ivermectin to treat COVID-19, neither he nor his organization is affiliated with the government. Therefore, it has no impact on government policies.

Throughout the pandemic, there has been regular misinformation around the use of ivermectin. There has never been conclusive proof that the anti-parasite drug can cure COVID-19. Now, a growing body of research proves that the drug is ineffective in treating COVID-19.

USA Today reported that as scientists continue to study the effects of ivermectin, "there's little data" to say that the drug can help with COVID-19. In addition, the medicine can solely treat certain types of parasites such as parasitic worms and scabies. As a result, none of the reputed health bodies, including the World Health Organization and US Food and Drug Administration, have approved the drug to treat COVID-19.

The COVID-19 pandemic has given rise to a lot of potentially dangerous misinformation. For reliable advice on COVID-19, including symptoms, prevention, and available treatment, please refer to the World Health Organization or your national healthcare authority.

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PS: What I had read some time back is that there have been some unauthorized use of Ivermectin in Japan, so I guess one could say it has been used.
One could also say that fish pills are used in the US since, you know, they have been used. LoLz
 
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Japan is not using ivermectin to cure COVID-19. It continues to vaccinate people.

Many people on social media claim that Japan is allowing doctors to treat COVID-19 patients with ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug. However, this is not true as the Japanese government has not included ivermectin in the list of medicines to treat COVID-19.

Several fact checking organizations, including AP News and PolitiFact have debunked this claim. According to AP News, Japan continues to vaccinate people and "has not authorized ivermectin for treating COVID-19."

PolitiFact reported that although Haruo Ozaki, Tokyo Medical Association's chairman, recommended ivermectin to treat COVID-19, neither he nor his organization is affiliated with the government. Therefore, it has no impact on government policies.

Throughout the pandemic, there has been regular misinformation around the use of ivermectin. There has never been conclusive proof that the anti-parasite drug can cure COVID-19. Now, a growing body of research proves that the drug is ineffective in treating COVID-19.

USA Today reported that as scientists continue to study the effects of ivermectin, "there's little data" to say that the drug can help with COVID-19. In addition, the medicine can solely treat certain types of parasites such as parasitic worms and scabies. As a result, none of the reputed health bodies, including the World Health Organization and US Food and Drug Administration, have approved the drug to treat COVID-19.

The COVID-19 pandemic has given rise to a lot of potentially dangerous misinformation. For reliable advice on COVID-19, including symptoms, prevention, and available treatment, please refer to the World Health Organization or your national healthcare authority.

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Welp your first sentence shows the problem.

You are correct. No one is using Ivermectin to CURE Covid.

You know why? Viruses CANT BE CURED. No one EXPECTS to "cure covid".

They ARE using it in early treatment of Covid symptoms and continuing to collect data.

But no one is using it for the purpose of "curing" a virus. There are no cured for viruses. They cant be cured. You just manage and treat the symptoms. Doctors are looking for solid therapeutics that manage Covid symptoms while the body kills the virus.

And until solid data shows its effective in the treatment of Covid symptoms.....its not going to be listed on any government anything. There is enough data to do that YET.

So your first sentence is a problem. Your premise is flawed.

Whoever wrote this article is ignorant as fuck. You cannot cure a virus. And just because something listed with the government yet as an establishment treatment doesnt mean it's not being used.

SMDH.
 

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Some people just want to be lied to.
It makes them feel like they "know" things that others don't, and they are right.
.It makes them part of the "in-crowd", ya know.
“I see your Mayo Clinic, and raise you some old coot from the internet.”
Hey wait, I'm Dr Holliday. Think I'll make a video about the Bleach Soaked Flashlight Up the Ass Trump Treatment.
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Some people just want to be lied to.
It makes them feel like they "know" things that others don't, and they are right.
.It makes them part of the "in-crowd", ya know.
“I see your Mayo Clinic, and raise you some old coot from the internet.”

No one is arguing with the MAYO clinic link

Do you guys even know what it was saying? I've noticed you guys post sources you dont seem to read.
 

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Some people just want to be lied to.
It makes them feel like they "know" things that others don't, and they are right.
.It makes them part of the "in-crowd", ya know.
“I see your Mayo Clinic, and raise you some old coot from the internet.”

No one is arguing with the MAYO clinic link

Do you guys even know what it was saying? I've noticed you guys post sources you dont seem to read.
It said, tell those idiots to stop listening to Joe Rohan for critical health information.
 

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This doctor who had a successful podcast for doctors, researchers, nurses et is a total kook.

You can tell by his funny parodies



I doubt you guys can even understand this parody.

Yeah these are clearly geared for an audience of laypeople.

But hey he uses comedy....so he has no creds.



The Zpack is just bunch of dummies who need to read leftwing opinion pieces about why Iver isnt being used to CURE a virus lmao.
 

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Some people just want to be lied to.
It makes them feel like they "know" things that others don't, and they are right.
.It makes them part of the "in-crowd", ya know.
“I see your Mayo Clinic, and raise you some old coot from the internet.”

No one is arguing with the MAYO clinic link

Do you guys even know what it was saying? I've noticed you guys post sources you dont seem to read.
It said, tell those idiots to stop listening to Joe Rohan for critical health information.

Except no one is doing that at all.
 

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Claim: Doctors in Japan and the US are using ivermectin for early Covid treatment

Lefties: Nuh UH! *posts link that says they didnt ditch vaccines for ivermectin*

*post link that says Iver isnt yet approved for Covid treament*

*posts a political advocacy group that says they dont think doctors should use it to prevent or treat moderate/severe covid*

Claim that doctors in Japan and US are using Iver in early Covid treatment as part of a protocol still not addressed.

How the fuck do these guys not ever understand what is being said?! We are all speaking English right?

Then they immediately lie when they get called out for this incoherent bull shit. "Post a link!" When anyone can just read the thread.

You have to laugh at how stupid and dishonest they are.
 

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Claim: Doctors in Japan and the US are using ivermectin for early Covid treatment

Lefties: Nuh UH! *posts link that says they didnt ditch vaccines for ivermectin*

*post link that says Iver isnt yet approved for Covid treament*

*posts a political advocacy group that says they dont think doctors should use it to prevent or treat moderate/severe covid*

Claim that doctors in Japan and US are using Iver in early Covid treatment as part of a protocol still not addressed.

How the fuck do these guys not ever understand what is being said?! We are all speaking English right?

Then they immediately lie when they get called out for this incoherent bull shit. "Post a link!" When anyone can just read the thread.

You have to laugh at how stupid and dishonest they are.
How many times did it take you to pass the GED?
 

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Claim: Doctors in Japan and the US are using ivermectin for early Covid treatment

Lefties: Nuh UH! *posts link that says they didnt ditch vaccines for ivermectin*

*post link that says Iver isnt yet approved for Covid treament*

*posts a political advocacy group that says they dont think doctors should use it to prevent or treat moderate/severe covid*

Claim that doctors in Japan and US are using Iver in early Covid treatment as part of a protocol still not addressed.

How the fuck do these guys not ever understand what is being said?! We are all speaking English right?

Then they immediately lie when they get called out for this incoherent bull shit. "Post a link!" When anyone can just read the thread.

You have to laugh at how stupid and dishonest they are.

They constantly do it. They accuse us of being the dumb ones.

They literally NEVER address the points, ever. No one argued with Mayo clinic link.

No one said iver was being used instead of vaccines. Or to cure a virus.

It's either stupidity or they are liars. It's impossible to talk to them. They argue shit no one even says. They dont even address what IS being said. Then they start with insults.

They are constantly locked into a partisan fight. Its fucking ridiculous. I could say "water is wet" and they'd argue how water isnt blood.
 

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Ps.....the government has no place telling doctors how to practice medicine.

So they dont need to "authorize" fuck all. The government is not your doctor, and has no place telling your doctor how to treat your individual health and medical needs.

When the government gets involved we end up with shit shows like the opiate crisis. And governors telling doctors they cant use certain meds to treat Covid. Which is an outrage.....because governors are not doctors and shouldnt be playing politics with medical care.

Js.

The left needs to stop their retarded politic bullshit with science period. We have children on puberty blockers and getting unessesary surgeries to "transition" and "gender clinics" need to be shut the fuck down with their harmful abuse of healthy but mentally ill people.
 

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People like those brain dead fools is why I switched from a registered Democrat to a registered Republican in 2020. The left just went insane. Absolutely fucking insane.

I am not the only one to see the cancer eating the left either as just a year ago there were 9% more registered Democrats than Republicans and now there are 5% more Republicans than Dems. That is a hell of a lot of people switching parties because the left has just completely off track on virtually every topic.