School shooting in Michigan

[Dove]

Too bad you couldn't see the areas where me n Blurt live. Where Blurt lives probably no violence towards women or crime at all. Tho not as safe, Extreme violence of that kind is rare in Vancouver. You or your daughter would feel safe walking on the main streets here at night no weapons needed.

Joe, get your head out of the sand, will you? While the crime rate here is, indeed, lower than where you live, it doesn't mean the area is violence-free. The difficulty with violence against homeless women is that it's too often invisible (and thus under-reported). It's invisible because many of them are engaged in sex work in order to survive and they wish, for that very reason, to remain anonymous. I cannot tell you the number of times I've had to deal with abusive johns in situations where the woman absolutely refused to have the cops called in. Unless her injuries were life-treatening, I usually respected her wishes.

To Scouse's point above, being homeless is far riskier for women than it is for men because, while there are some male sex workers, women can too easily be sucked into a world where they need only peddle their bodies to get the cash needed for their next fix. It makes them highly vulnerable to sexual predators and, this, quite aside from the fact that they're usually of much smaller stature than the guys who use them and thus cannot defend themselves well in the event they're assaulted.

My focus with these women was never prayer or charity but prevention and easy access to goods and services that might make them less vulnerable. For instance, I always made sure they had instant access to condoms, feminine hygiene products, toilet paper, new pipes and syringes, Narcan kits, and shitloads of information about all the resources they could avail themselves of should they ever want to quit the streets--for whatever reason, without anyone ever inordinately pressuring them to do so. Dove has the right of it; you can't pull these women off the streets... they have to want to leave of their own accord.

One thing that was like a religion for me is that I made sure they had in their hands, within hours of its publication, the weekly "bad date sheet" put out by

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, a local sex work safety group, in which incidents of violence against women perpetrated by unapprehended johns were listed, including their physical description, license plate numbers, and phone numbers (if available). Also, I tried, whenever possible, to put these homeless gals in contact with street workers from that same agency.

All this is mostly invisible to the suits running government programs or to Jane and John Q. Public rushing around the downtown core in the morning in their quest to grab a latte before heading to the office.

Doesn't mean it's not happening, yo!

A lot of the reason they dont leave is because they dont believe themselves to be worthy cases for any help, they feel like they dont matter, nothing they do matters, and theyll never recover anyway.

And they will tell you this as casually and matter of factly as I would tell you about my latest trip to Aldi.

A stunning and devastating amount of them were pimped as children or abused by some family member or.....moms boyfriend.

I know one who is still clean and stable today that was pimped by her own father at the age of 9. Then used as a drug mule. Never went to school or played with other children.

She was really mean and hard when I first met her. We met on equal footing on the dorm of the outreach and she just started slowly softening towards others. I had plenty of my own problems to be trying to form relationships with other womens problems.....that's how most were at first. Then you just kinda bond as "program buddies" as time goes forth and you see who is still standing.

The women on the streets we pray for will approach the "van"(things are given from the van, we just go park down there and they know to come and get whatever they need) and ask for it. A lot of times they mostly wanna talk.

I'll never be on board with legal prostitution. Some of these women are only ever pulled away from that and rehabilitated because they were arrested and given the options(they get arrested....but not charged. Just offered help). I have a friend who was being held and trafficked against her will for a drug debt and was raped more than 80 times before police pulled over the car she was in and arrested everyone. She was sent to a hospital and released with her family.....hiv positive. :/

Shed have been dead if not for that arrest. She did die eventually from an OD.....but at least it wasnt murder by traffickers.

Needles are very easy to get here. Like 2 bucks for a large bag. No one has ever asked for those.

 

[Dove]

Everytime I post "pimped" it auto changes to "pumped".

If you read my post and it says "pumped" I typed " pimped"

It's rather unfortunate the way it changes my sentence

 

[Blurt]

I'll never be on board with legal prostitution.

No?

And yet legalizing prostitution reduces the risk of these women being further harmed by their activity.

Are you saying the authorities--legal or political--should be making life decisions for these women rather than letting them choose how to run their own lives and then simply provide them with harm reduction strategies and safer environments?

Really, Dovey?

 

[Dove]

I'll never be on board with legal prostitution.

No?

And yet legalizing prostitution reduces the risk of these women being further harmed by their activity.

Are you saying the authorities--legal or political--should be making life decisions for these women rather than letting them choose how to run their own lives and then simply provide them with harm reduction strategies and safer environments?

Really, Dovey?

Legalizing prostitution is a death sentence for women and girls being pimped and trafficked.

My friend didnt "chose" to be raped over 80 times to pay off her drug use. A good portion of women and girls down there are under coercion and force. You should see how some of them take FOOD with fear.....they arent "allowed" to eat until they bring in a certain amount of money. They are all starving and detoxing trying to scrap 50 bucks. Some of them dont even have periods anymore they are in such poor shape.

I dont see a problem with temporarily interrupting someones dangerous choices to talk to them and give them some options before letting them go.....no. And often they cam tell police which pimps are trafficking minors. If they were out there against their will.....there is their chance.

A few hours with police is harm reducation. Police are not interested in charging drug addicts. Or hookers. They really arent. They will do everything they can before charging.

Generally of course.

 

[Lokmar]

My focus with these women was never prayer or charity but prevention and easy access to goods and services that might make them less vulnerable. For instance, I always made sure they had instant access to condoms, feminine hygiene products, toilet paper, new pipes and syringes, Narcan kits, and shitloads of information about all the resources they could avail themselves of should they ever want to quit the streets--for whatever reason, without anyone ever inordinately pressuring them to do so. Dove has the right of it; you can't pull these women off the streets... they have to want to leave of their own accord.

I'd prefer lock em up and throw away the key.

In your basement. We know.

No, my basement would only be used for dismemberment.

 

[Blurt]

I'll never be on board with legal prostitution.

And yet legalizing prostitution reduces the risk of these women being further harmed by their activity.

Legalizing prostitution is a death sentence for women and girls being pimped and trafficked.

No.

Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact (despite anecdotal stories).

The benefits of legalizing prostitution extend further than to just those involved in the sex industry. Allowing brothels to operate legally and publicly generates substantial revenue for the state as well. The situation for many sex workers in the Netherlands has vastly improved since the implementation of new reforms and regulations. The legalization of sex work enforces compliance with labor laws by businesses in the sex work industry.

In this way, the Netherlands has successfully reduced the number of people at risk of forced prostitution and human trafficking. The Netherlands enforces harsh punishments for anyone aiding in human trafficking with up to 18 years in prison. Although this hasn’t rid the country entirely of forced prostitution, it has become significantly easier to regulate the illegal exploitation of minors. The Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs states that sex work can only be performed legally by someone over the age of 21.

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[Dove]

I'll never be on board with legal prostitution.

And yet legalizing prostitution reduces the risk of these women being further harmed by their activity.

Legalizing prostitution is a death sentence for women and girls being pimped and trafficked.

No.

Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact (despite anecdotal stories).

The benefits of legalizing prostitution extend further than to just those involved in the sex industry. Allowing brothels to operate legally and publicly generates substantial revenue for the state as well. The situation for many sex workers in the Netherlands has vastly improved since the implementation of new reforms and regulations. The legalization of sex work enforces compliance with labor laws by businesses in the sex work industry.

In this way, the Netherlands has successfully reduced the number of people at risk of forced prostitution and human trafficking. The Netherlands enforces harsh punishments for anyone aiding in human trafficking with up to 18 years in prison. Although this hasn’t rid the country entirely of forced prostitution, it has become significantly easier to regulate the illegal exploitation of minors. The Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs states that sex work can only be performed legally by someone over the age of 21.

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It's not though, Blurt.

I'm siding with anecdotal stories and what I've seen with my eyes and what I know from living on that side of society

If you can tell this to a 16/17 year old girl not to get her hopes up hoping that cop will notice and detain her and she wont be beaten too death tonight and live with the defeat in her face, we can disregard anecdotes.

But I dont trust any data that suggests abandoning the vulnerable to their own devices would "reduce harm" when I understand the dynamic between the police and the drug addled homeless, at least here in my state. I can point to 6 lives here today because of police involvement.

Make it legal and there goes even more missing people we will never see again.

Also i do not agree harm reduction requires full blown enablement.

I'd like to see more of the ones who make these decisions make the effort to hear from the people they are intended to benefit.....as you stated, they are largely "invisable".

My own husband would be dead today if all he got were clean needles and wasnt "sentenced" to rehab. There is that, too. Some of this harm reduction is basically giving up on people and trying to stop Hep C and overdoses. It's good and all but we shouldnt start making this lifestyle easier for them.

Honestly instead if a damage control campaign we should be looking at the fact we have created societies in which people would prefer banging dope and being numb.

 

[Blurt]

Honestly instead of a damage control campaign we should be looking at the fact we have created societies in which people would prefer banging dope and being numb.

I totally agree with this... except for one thing: we should be examining our societies ALONG with providing damage control, not INSTEAD of it.

I've been listening to (not just talking to, but actually listening to) women who are involved in the sex industry for the better part of the last 25 years and what they--not you or me, but they--want is plain. There's a reason all these community-based agencies aiming to protect the health and integrity of homeless women who have one or both feet firmly planted in the sex industry is started by those very same women who've walked the streets (and who have, by and large, gotten the hell out of Dodge). They know the score. They know the risks. They know how to leave. They want to help other women in the same situation. And: they're all for legalized prostitution. All of them. This is truth, from the mare's mouth.

I don't mean to discount your own, no doubt horrifying, experiences, Dovey (and I know how you bristle at the thought of anyone who has a penis bloviating about "the experience of women") but the fact that these "experienced" gals care enough and know what's best enough to want to set up shop on the very streets that nearly killed them is enough for me to side with them when they advocate for the legalization of prostitution.

 

[Lily]

A 4th teen died today to get back to the thread topic.

 

[Dove]

Honestly instead of a damage control campaign we should be looking at the fact we have created societies in which people would prefer banging dope and being numb.

I totally agree with this... except for one thing: we should be examining our societies ALONG with providing damage control, not INSTEAD of it.

I've been listening to (not just talking to, but actually listening to) women who are involved in the sex industry for the better part of the last 25 years and what they--not you or me, but they--want is plain. There's a reason all these community-based agencies aiming to protect the health and integrity of homeless women who have one or both feet firmly planted in the sex industry is started by those very same women who've walked the streets (and who have, by and large, gotten the hell out of Dodge). They know the score. They know the risks. They know how to leave. They want to help other women in the same situation. And: they're all for legalized prostitution. All of them. This is truth, from the mare's mouth.

I don't mean to discount your own, no doubt horrifying, experiences, Dovey (and I know how you bristle at the thought of anyone who has a penis bloviating about "the experience of women") but the fact that these "experienced" gals care enough and know what's best enough to want to set up shop on the very streets that nearly killed them is enough for me to side with them when they advocate for the legalization of prostitution.

Blurt that first thing is what I said. I said damage control is fine, we just shouldnt give up on people.

Also I think you may be forgetting I AM one of those women. My mother was one of those women. Many of the other women in my are or were those women. I know what goes on out there and lessening the police presence.....which in Detroit is ready lacking btw... would be a very bad thing.

None of those women out there by choice are concerned about police. They LIKE knowing where police are out there for when they are needed.

If you are down there and they (police) do not recognize you, you are gonna get arrested. Questioned. Offered help. Let go. That's all they do down there. They are not worried about charging people. Its futile and expensive and doesnt work.

Maybe it's different where you are, I'm speaking for where I am. I'm sure there are similar dynamics everywhere but the overall cultures vary. And how things operate vary.

No one here cares about legal prostitution. They do it regardless. Its typically not THEM banging the gong of legal prostitution. And politics generally are not something most of these women care about. They are not on that side of society, kwim?

Talk of legalization of prostitution HAS to come equipped with the understanding of illegal human trafficking and there HAS to be a way to continue rescuing THEM. You see my concern here? It's a big one and I wish these conversations involved this because it really is a big issue. I dont like the government regulating our lives as it is....I'm a small government person, so my issue isnt that I think government should shove its nose in consensual transactions like prostitution. My issue is.... we already dont have enough foing for us in the fight against trafficking. And I KNOW of women who lived in terror everyday just HOPING to get arrested and rescued.

What do we do for them if arrest is off the table?

I dont get bristled if men have opinions on womens issues. I get bristled when I'm trying to make a point that is important and it's not being heard/understood. Some things I'll agree to disagree and it is what it is. Not everyone has to agree on everything. But when it's something that can really do some harm to people who are already not being considered much I get bristley or whatever lol.

If a male gets patronizing towards me regarding womens issues yeah I'll hiss and spit over that. Most would I would think. You guys fight wars and shit....you can take it lol.

 

[Joe]

A 4th teen died today to get back to the thread topic.

Sad

 

[Dove]

And a 4th teen died from injuries at the hospital :( he was prepped for organ donation today.

The others will pull through. One girl was shot through her chest entirely....missed every vital. Total miracle.

One was shot in the back of the neck....she lived, not paralyzed. VERY lucky to be alive.

The kid who shot had a countdown his Instagram. Dude this was BLATANT. The punks name is Ethan Crumbly(I can post that) and he had been making threats for while.....school did NOTHING.

I'm getting details from hospital staff and people I know in Oxford. Oxford is very close to where I grew up.

The boy who died today was shot in the head. Went through his brain....he lived up until today.

Just awful.

 

[Dove]

So Ethan Crumbly took the gun from his father. Father recently bought it.....did NOT store it responsibility and Ethan had this planned for a while. Made several threats. Showed a lot of disturbed behaviour(including throwing a decapitated deer head into the court yard of the school). Had a countdown to this shooting on his Instagram.

Other kids saw it and stayed home that day. Yes many other kids complained. The school sent an email to parents and blew it off entirely.

So the parents and the school dropped the ball big time and fucked up. This boy OBVIOUSLY needed help a long time ago. According to several students....they all saw it coming and no one did SHIT.

Nice. Very glad I chose to keep Squish out of public school.

 

[Dove]

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Yep here is an article. This was the result of negligence.

Awesome they gotta include some dumb political post the mom made in 2016 for literally no fucking reason. The fuck? Lol. Gotta get that partisan propaganda where you can, I guess.

 

[DDT]

Do you have a source for that? I'd like to see it.

Absolutely! I have the best source that you could ever imagine! It's Google!

 

[DDT]

Its not propaganda to post documents showing Nazi's used a registry list to take guns from people. Its history which is useful in warning Americans not to allow our own government to create registries.

You're clearly as challenged as Dove is... "Hitler bad, Eating Shit Good"...

Have fun with that.

 

[DDT]

Hitler had taken no guns from anyone. There where no guns for him to take.

American ignorance is known all throughout the World.

Unreal.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Never heard of this guy before.

I could only stand watching 5 mins....

So this Jew gets asked an honest and very relevant question, and his response is... nothing? Other than of course the usual "anti-Semite" slur?

Come on Lok, how can you defend these people?

You jumped to the conclusion that I defend him. Do you think I posted that video as a defense of Jews? Seriously?

I wasn't referring to this guy in particular, I was talking about your ongoing refusal to acknowledge the problems which Jews are causing in society and their disproportionate role in the woke anti-white industry.

Remember, when you see a "white" Antifa or BLM tard chanting anti-American, pro-ngger shite, it's potentially a Jew, not a white individual. You only have to recall the Rittenhouse shootings to realise that.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Never heard of this guy before.

I could only stand watching 5 mins....

So this Jew gets asked an honest and very relevant question, and his response is... nothing? Other than of course the usual "anti-Semite" slur?

Come on Lok, how can you defend these people?

I noticed that.

He could have given some sort of answer or even addressed the logic, but instead he was a snarky prick who just called the guy an anti semite.

That's the problem with leftists. Any regular criticism of anything they start labeling and shaming.

Do they really think they are gonna stop people from thinking things? All they accomplish is stopping people from discussing things. What happens is the discussions go underground and that's how radicalization happens.

I do not think the guy was a jew hater at all. It IS interesting their history of being booted out of everywhere. And now even attacked on their own land. Of course you know I believe the bible and that they are Gods chosen.....that doesnt mean me (or Lok btw) are not aware that some are evil, even considered the synagogue of satan.

I just take them on an individual basis and I judge people by their character, deeds and vibes rather than by race or ethnicity. I dont see people as monoliths. Every skin color on the planet has genuinely fucking evil people.

I get that, but Jews are something else, truly they are. They have been brought upto believe that all non-Jews are out to get them and to be suspicious of the goyim. WW2 has been singed into their psyche and as you saw in this video, they refuse to discuss anything which risks portraying them in a negative manner.

These people will tell you how they have been persecuted throughout the ages and expelled from 109 countries, but never explain the reason why and if you dare to question them, they will brand you an anti-Semite. The same can be said for the outrageous lies they have told about WW2 and the 6 million Jews who were supposedly sent to gas chambers. They won't allow any conflicting viewpoints on the subject, because they know that if they do, their phony tale will be exposed as a complete fallacy.

 

[Joe]

So the parents and the school dropped the ball big time and fucked up. This boy OBVIOUSLY needed help a long time ago. According to several students....they all saw it coming and no one did SHIT.

Nice. Very glad I chose to keep Squish out of public school.

Wonder how many other parents will pull their children out of these public schools for safety reasons. Parents have a lot on their plates now.

Safety issues & COVID.

Perhaps the schools should offer a permanent remote learning option. Or a mixed/hybrid option where they can attend a day or 2 per week stay home the rest of the time?

Any event the current system doesn't seem to work where you live. Needs a massive overhaul in order to accommodate safety & health concerns.

 

[Dove]

Do you have a source for that? I'd like to see it.

Absolutely! I have the best source that you could ever imagine! It's Google!

Okay so what makes the shit on google that confirms MY point inaccurate and makes your googled shit accurate? Google will say anything you want it to say.....that's the internet.

Do you have a reputable specific source to explain this? It's a genuine question. Not a challange.

Not sure what triggered hysterics and all these dramatic false equivalences....touchy subject?

I always dig the foreigners who like talking about how the whole world thinks Americans are big dumbz. But then get mad instead of educating.

No one is arguing with you, mang.....just asking for evidence. Lots and lots of WW2 propaganda exists. Not gonna believe something just because some guy online told me the world thinks Americans are dumb and I should just google until I find something that says Hitler never disarmed anyone.

 

[Dove]

So the parents and the school dropped the ball big time and fucked up. This boy OBVIOUSLY needed help a long time ago. According to several students....they all saw it coming and no one did SHIT.

Nice. Very glad I chose to keep Squish out of public school.

Wonder how many other parents will pull their children out of these public schools for safety reasons. Parents have a lot on their plates now.

Safety issues & COVID.

Perhaps the schools should offer a permanent remote learning option. Or a mixed/hybrid option where they can attend a day or 2 per week stay home the rest of the time?

Any event the current system doesn't seem to work where you live. Needs a massive overhaul in order to accommodate safety & health concerns.

They do offer that now.

 

[Joe]

So the parents and the school dropped the ball big time and fucked up. This boy OBVIOUSLY needed help a long time ago. According to several students....they all saw it coming and no one did SHIT.

Nice. Very glad I chose to keep Squish out of public school.

Wonder how many other parents will pull their children out of these public schools for safety reasons. Parents have a lot on their plates now.

Safety issues & COVID.

Perhaps the schools should offer a permanent remote learning option. Or a mixed/hybrid option where they can attend a day or 2 per week stay home the rest of the time?

Any event the current system doesn't seem to work where you live. Needs a massive overhaul in order to accommodate safety & health concerns.

They do offer that now.

Another solution might be where the parents can send their children to safe class room 'cells' or mobile buildings with no more than 20 or 30 carefully screened children with like minded interests. So it could still be a public school but it's no longer sending 500 kids to one school at a time. So a school could have cell A Cell B Cell C in several locations. Same school same curriculum but split up in the district relying on a mixture of in class and online learning.

Easier to control 20 or 30 students at a time than 500 with unpredictable basket cases thrown in. A better to control the spread of viruses too. Gives children some social interaction and allows parents to get away from their children for a better part of their day.

Maybe it'd be too expensive to implement? But if they already have remote learning and homeschooling then perhaps it wouldnt be too radical a transition.

 

[Dove]

So the parents and the school dropped the ball big time and fucked up. This boy OBVIOUSLY needed help a long time ago. According to several students....they all saw it coming and no one did SHIT.

Nice. Very glad I chose to keep Squish out of public school.

Wonder how many other parents will pull their children out of these public schools for safety reasons. Parents have a lot on their plates now.

Safety issues & COVID.

Perhaps the schools should offer a permanent remote learning option. Or a mixed/hybrid option where they can attend a day or 2 per week stay home the rest of the time?

Any event the current system doesn't seem to work where you live. Needs a massive overhaul in order to accommodate safety & health concerns.

They do offer that now.

Another solution might be where the parents can send their children to safe class room 'cells' or mobile buildings with no more than 20 or 30 carefully screened children with like minded interests. So it could still be a public school but it's no longer sending 500 kids to one school at a time. So a school could have cell A Cell B Cell C in several locations. Same school same curriculum but split up in the district relying on a mixture of in class and online learning.

Easier to control 20 or 30 students at a time than 500 with unpredictable basket cases thrown in. A better to control the spread of viruses too. Gives children some social interaction and allows parents to get away from their children for a better part of their day.

Maybe it'd be too expensive to implement? But if they already have remote learning and homeschooling then perhaps it wouldnt be too radical a transition.

Wouldnt it be easier to just actually act on it when there is a clearly disturbed problematic student who made multiple threats to do something like this?

The kid literally had a countdown to it on his Instagram and no one did a thing. Other students stayed home that day because they knew something was going to happen and NONE of the adults did anything.

The kid was literally posting pictures of himself with that gun.

There are solutions that are not extremes.....had the school and the parents taken this as seriously as they should have, this could have been prevented. If the parents stores the gun properly, removed their child from school and sought the appropriate help for him....this would have been prevented. If the school had suspended him and required the parents seek help for him....it would have been prevented.

Responding to this ghoulish level of neglect by completely altering the school in a way that is expensive and possibly bad for the kids to accommodate the adults in their neglect of the students doesnt seem like a good solution when there were so many simple things that should have been done, but were not.

Other students even were bringing this to the attention of the school staff. All they did was send an email to the parents and meet with them(right on the morning of the day the kid shot up his classmates).

It's insane and inexcusable that there were so many red flags that went ignored

That's how it is, though. Even with kids bullying and tormenting any students, the school does absolutely nothing. Unless the kid is gay or "trans".... they just dont act. Unruley bullies can flat out threaten to rape or kill another student and nothing is done about it. So this is a serious problem in the schools

The fact there were so many warning signs here that went mostly ignored is just fucking neglect. Even other students saw that countdown and chose to stay home that day. The school staff and this kids parents did nothing.

There is talk that the parents will be charged and I firmly believe they should be. You cant just ignore your childs mental health and needs like that. They didnt even store the gun properly....this kid was able to get at it multiple times and have pictures of himself with it on the internet.....and the parents ignored all this.

We need solutions yes, but not the kind that enable the staff and adults to do nothing when a student is obviously disturbed and threatening other students and the school.

It's not a terrible idea Joe... I just think it shouldnt even stop there. Setting up the school to try to guarantee safety when the adults do nothing so they can continue doing nothing just seems like more "damage control" tactics that do nothing to address the root problem.

 

[Dove]

Shitmer is going to go to the hospital where the victims are so she can exploit this tragic event for politcs.

Awesome. The hospital staff isnt thrilled.

So this will become an anti 2A tool and any conversation about the actual problems that led to this will be swept to the side in favor of partisan idiocy.

This is why things do not change.

 

[Dove]

So one of the kids that died on the scene was a wrestler. And he literally died wrestling the shooter. This boy saved several lives and died doing it.

And the school is going to name the foot ball feild after him.

Of course......had the school listened to the kids and did something, this whole awful shit would have been prevented.

 

[Lokmar]

Its not propaganda to post documents showing Nazi's used a registry list to take guns from people. Its history which is useful in warning Americans not to allow our own government to create registries.

You're clearly as challenged as Dove is... "Hitler bad, Eating Shit Good"...

Have fun with that.

You're clearly indoctrinated with "Hitler good, all things anti Hitler bad". Denying that nazis used registration records to confiscate guns from NON JEWS TOO is so fukin absurd, its almost unbelievable that someone would do it. Yet here you are.

 

[Admin.]

Shouldn't we be looking for things in his past to vilify him over?

 

[Admin.]

Stunning and brave!

 

[Dove]

Shouldn't we be looking for things in his past to vilify him over?

Well this is very obvious to objective people, Admin.

There is no excuse for you to not understand the differences.

Kyle was armed at a RIOT. Was being attacked and chased and was clear he was running for the police. He was not standing there shooting random people like Ethan Crumbley was.

This is what makes you guys so dumb you are a threat to the country. You people will fight against our human and constitutional rights for your dumb partisan delusions thinking this wont actually do damage.

How fucking dare you compare violent rioters destroying communities to innocent high school kids who were just at school. That right there shows again you are DUMB and you DONT UNDERSTAND basic common sense issues.