When do the likes of Reg, and Adam et al have to answer for their opinions?

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I have fed sometimes as a bottom feeder, and sometimes as a predator on these sites for as long as they have existed. I have persisted in my opinions while being challenged daily, like a milkman at the teat of human endeavour. Never have I experienced before Trump, the inability of fellow posters to explain their own fucking opinions, with such a disregard to any malforming truth that simple truth can easily deny, or indeed persuade.

These cunts have no shame, let alone a concise argument as to why they might not concur. In post truth Trumpism, all that ever mattered is their ability to consider friction as a denominator of truth.

We are not talking merely in regard to policy, but in regard to the implementation of an embalmed necro-fascism that outstrips it’s own ability to elucidate itself, out-witting and out-with any bastion of common sense. Make America Great Again means only one thing now…make Trump great. There is already talk of carving his likeness into Mt.Rushmore, although ICI will have to up their production of orange paint to deliver the realism required on that ungrateful Granite.

I do not think there is another society on earth outside Russia, North Korea and the Heard and McDonald Islands that welcomes an 11 time bankrupt’s economic philosophy more than the morally bankrupt aforementioned posters.

They have no argument, merely propagandised talking points, they have no other point while seeking to pretend that they do, they have no respect, they have no dignity and simply find time to argue with you, while constantly reminding themselves that hate is the only reason they get out of bed in the morning.

I enjoy a Reg post, it makes me feel as if I can still contact the dead, without a ouji bored board, or having to watch Adam get confused about just how Anglo-Saxon or indeed white, he isn’t.

Blandy, you did not present any point to argue.

Do this one. I would argue that Apple investing in manufacturing in the USA is good for the USA.

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Blandy, you did not present any point to argue.

Do this one. I would argue that Apple investing in manufacturing in the USA is good for the USA.

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Apple made that announcement in February when did Trump launch his war on international trade?
 

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Apple made that announcement in February when did Trump launch his war on international trade?

Trump did not launch a war on international trade.

But he made it clear in November of 2024 that tariffs are coming. Apple decided to take action.

Other companies decided to sit on their hands. While I do not generally purchase Apple products, I have to commend their leadership for being proactive.
 

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Trump did not launch a war on international trade.

But he made it clear in November of 2024 that tariffs are coming. Apple decided to take action.

Other companies decided to sit on their hands. While I do not generally purchase Apple products, I have to commend their leadership for being proactive.
You’re wrong and also an idiot.
 
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Blandy, you did not present any point to argue.

Do this one. I would argue that Apple investing in manufacturing in the USA is good for the USA.

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That would be an excellent point if Trump had not wiped $250 billion off the value of Apple this week on the world markets. Also, like Trumps daughters business, Apple bought into globalisation, and moved manufacturing to China, where they could legally abuse their workforce, keep them on site and pay them a pittance next to US labour.

Apple will not pay to build new plants in the US. Did you know Jim, that it costs Apple $10 to make an iPhone in China, how much will it cost them in the US? And I am supposing Apple will have to pay for the new plants, twenty years after building the same infra structure in China.
 

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Talking to X is like wondering if you can get a sweet deal from an American car salesman on a brand new Japanese land cruiser, in Trumps new America.
Talking to you is like talking to someone still high from sniffing @Jack s fermented jizz circa 1954 in jimmy carters old America
 

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He has the audacity to make me miss Cookie Monster Admin!
You have the audacity to masquerade as a human being albeit with a thirst for the groin juices of the elderly
 

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You were never interested in politics, or so you kept telling us

See? You've obviously never read a word I've typed, or at least failed to understand any of them. I won't be starting all over again just to eventually end up right back here.

As long as you're only going to make it all up you don't actually need my input.

Innit.
 

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That would be an excellent point if Trump had not wiped $250 billion off the value of Apple this week on the world markets.

The stock value of Apple does not actually affect the real value of Apple.

I know this confuses a lot of people.

Just imagine that you own a factory worth $50 million that produces a product. You also own the IP worth $20 million to manufacture that product. You employ 1000 people at this factory.

The building and its contents has a dollar value. The IP has a dollar value.

Something happens that causes shareholders to act irrationally and sell a bunch of stock. This drives the stock price down.

You still own the building worth $50 million. You still own the IP worth $20 million. You still employ the 1000 people.

The stock price does not affect the real value of a company in any meaningful way, unless they are actively issuing more shares to raise capital.


Also, like Trumps daughters business, Apple bought into globalisation, and moved manufacturing to China, where they could legally abuse their workforce, keep them on site and pay them a pittance next to US labour.

So compassionate people should be celebrating that Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to USA.


Apple will not pay to build new plants in the US. Did you know Jim, that it costs Apple $10 to make an iPhone in China, how much will it cost them in the US?

I am not sure. Probably a lot less that you think.

This is when you need to do the research if you want to make a point.


And I am supposing Apple will have to pay for the new plants, twenty years after building the same infra structure in China.

Yes, they will.


The wider picture economics tends to confuse most people. Prices can go up. That is fine. The money will be staying in the USA. All of the money being spent in the USA: From raw materials to manufacturing to distributors to retail stores to retail customers.....all money going from one entity in the USA to another entity in the USA. The wealth stays in the USA.
 

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Responding to you is like talking to me, highly articulate and profoundly pertinent, right up until you try to interfere.
You try way to hard, I bet if you just asked @Jack would give you a lick of his bent carrot
 

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The stock price does not affect the real value of a company in any meaningful way, unless they are actively issuing more shares to raise capital.

Or unless they've leveraged their worth on paper (stock, etc.) to take out loans that can be affected by a major fluctuation in that estimated value. It can also negatively effect corporate balance sheet projections which can spook shareholders and if that starts a sell-off... the stock price falls even farther. Secondary indexes and trading are impacted as well which although probably not directly connected to one particular company do have market-wide impact.

Just sayin'.

So compassionate people should be celebrating that Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to USA.

"Manufacturing" or just assembly?
Unless I've missed something industries like automotive and tech may ramp up their *assembly* facilities (won't see the results for months or even years though) the individual parts are still going to come from all over the planet.

All too often a "Made in the USA" label only means it was *assembled* in the USA and in my opinion those are two completely different things.