Where Do You See The World In 20 Years?

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Well communism worked in some places and was diabolical in other places.... but they only want communism for the little people. THE ELITES WILL still practice state capitalism like CCP so if LOTUS thinks that is the answer she needs to visit a communist country and live there.... Cuba is nice.... China is not.

Where has communism worked?

Cubans dont even have gas most of the time and the poverty they live in is miserable. They were recently revolting. The Cubans I personally know who came to Florida from Cuba HATE communism....they came here to get away from that...socailism/communism

People bail on Cuba all the time to enjoy the opportunities and liberties we have here



 

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I wouldnt want to live in Cuba. And I really dont want to see my country become a larger more dangerous version of it.
 
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Dove Communism is Christianty without God....

And it doesn't work because the leaders aren't communists, they are despots....

those people who fled Cuba are not better off in the USA. Cuba is beautiul.

see if you can look up Cuba in a documentary....I have seen 2 different ones.... I would love to go to Cuba.... And Chile and Peru.. And even Mexico but I am realistic living in the wrong time. There are too many drug related crimes in our times and getting caught in cross fires is highly probable.

death toll in Turkey is 2600 and climbing.
 

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So all the people who believe this ^^^ should kill themselves, right?

Humans are "invasive species" and need to mostly die off. Right. Are you listening to yourself?

Humans who hate humanity and believe this are violating their own values everyday they suck air. I've noticed (and I'm not the only one) that people with this belief system you have are preaching for OTHER humans to die.

I'm not sure what this has to do with the widespread nonsensical delusion that the elites want everyone to be Christian's so they can be "controlled"(since the baseline of Christianity means they cant be....and no where on earth are genuine Christains controllable, even when belief gets you executed) but my big question to everyone who hates humans and thinks we are akin to a virus is......why are you still alive then?

@Dove I wasn't suggesting that people die off. But that 2nd coming of a messiah who will instantly wash away our problems seems a tad unrealistic. More like...it is what it is....it'd be impossible to go back to pristine world of Adam & Eve.
 

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@Dove I wasn't suggesting that people die off. But that 2nd coming of a messiah who will instantly wash away our problems seems a tad unrealistic. More like...it is what it is....it'd be impossible to go back to pristine world of Adam & Eve.


It isn't impossible.... It is going to happen. But don't worry so much. Enjoy the day....

And how is that little barking mutt of your friend going?.... Is it still trouble?
 

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Dove Communism is Christianty without God....

And it doesn't work because the leaders aren't communists, they are despots....

those people who fled Cuba are not better off in the USA. Cuba is beautiul.

see if you can look up Cuba in a documentary....I have seen 2 different ones.... I would love to go to Cuba.... And Chile and Peru.. And even Mexico but I am realistic living in the wrong time. There are too many drug related crimes in our times and getting caught in cross fires is highly probable.

death toll in Turkey is 2600 and climbing.
I actually agree. Communism is Christianity without God. Same with socialism.

Morally speaking and in theory both should be very healthy forms of governance. But reality shows otherwise in the hands of man
 

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I actually agree. Communism is Christianity without God. Same with socialism.

Morally speaking and in theory both should be very healthy forms of governance. But reality shows otherwise in the hands of man

So Lotus and indeed Lily haven't reasoned that yet.... They believe in an ideal.

Just ask them questions.

We can all recognize and point out the problems but it's not good enough. We need workable answers.
 

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@Dove I wasn't suggesting that people die off. But that 2nd coming of a messiah who will instantly wash away our problems seems a tad unrealistic. More like...it is what it is....it'd be impossible to go back to pristine world of Adam & Eve.

About as unrealistic as the fact we all exist? God will destroying this world and making it new. Abolishing sin and death.

How is that unrealistic?
 

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Dove Communism is Christianty without God....

And it doesn't work because the leaders aren't communists, they are despots....

those people who fled Cuba are not better off in the USA. Cuba is beautiul.

see if you can look up Cuba in a documentary....I have seen 2 different ones.... I would love to go to Cuba.... And Chile and Peru.. And even Mexico but I am realistic living in the wrong time. There are too many drug related crimes in our times and getting caught in cross fires is highly probable.

death toll in Turkey is 2600 and climbing.

Communism the inverse of the kingdom of Christ and it replaces God with government. It just causes massive suffering and death.

A lot of Cubans who came here to get away from Cuba definately feel they are doing much better....I've met some. They are very glad to be here. I lived down in Southern FL for a few years, every Cuban I met that fled Cuba is much happier in the US.
 

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So Lotus and indeed Lily haven't reasoned that yet.... They believe in an ideal.

Just ask them questions.

We can all recognize and point out the problems but it's not good enough. We need workable answers.

It seems it much easier for the people who think they want it to demonize those who dont. And asking questions makes them angry.

That's the major reason civil discourse is dead. They are angry and have painted everyone outside their "party" as the root of all the evil in the world. Even as they tolerate evil from their own "party".
 

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How do you even begin to talk to people who call those riots "blow back"?

"Blow back".....against innocent people who didnt do a thing to them. Not any "blow back" against the politcains and leaders who are responsible for the conditions.

"Blow back" against 8 year old Secoriea Turner. Against regular ass people just trying to live their lives.

It's like bombing pre schools to protest child abuse.

But that's marxism. It's always dishonest and a mindfuck and uses violence and hatred and attacks our rights. Its started here the same way its started everywhere else where it was a devastating failure forcing people under authoritarianism, oppressing them and causing massive death.

We didnt quite learn this lesson and I guess those of us who dont wanna see or live that are just stupid, ignorant bad guys.
 

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"Blow back".....against innocent people who didnt do a thing to them. Not any "blow back" against the politcains and leaders who are responsible for the conditions.
And let us not forget the SINGLE time there was blow back against the politicians we haven't seen an end to the weeping and wailing from these idiots
 

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I actually agree. Communism is Christianity without God. Same with socialism.

Morally speaking and in theory both should be very healthy forms of governance. But reality shows otherwise in the hands of man
....well in that case, so is unbridled capitalism @Biggie Smiles.

Actually neither communisn, capitalism & fascism have anything to do with God other than man deciding that he was or would play God.

These ideologies are all derived from Social Darwinism. Survival of the Fittest. Autocratic rulers in communism/fascism = greedy ceo's/elites masquerading around as democratic. They are all the same and quite obviously this mentality of grabbing everything for themselves is destroying the planet.

Reasoning is since there is no God & Nature is no longer sacred man can play God under the guise of these ideologies and wreck the planet, wipe out nations and destroy cultures as he pleases.

That is the essence of social darwinism. I dont know why everyone thought Charles Darwin was such as swell guy and the destructive ideologies he spawned were so wonderful. No wonder the CEOs, Elites & dictators adore Darwin so much because he validated their excesses.

All of those ideologies have blood on their hands thanks in large part to Charles Darwin.
 

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In the year 2043 ...
We won't be allowed to be free ...
And you are going to see ...
Sex will have no chemistry ...
All the trees will have died ...
And our brains will be fried ...

Do You Agree ... !!?!! ... :OhGawd:
 

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In X(not the poster here)amount of minutes I will be shitting for the first time in 6 and a half days. Pray that asshole makes it through this.
 

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Well the hope is either I am painlessly dead or living in the new system where all the bad people are cactus and the righteous are enjoying the resurrection of dead relatives..

Otherwise we've all been duped and been good for no reason.

The earth will return to being a paradise.

The trees will grow and the rivers will run clean.... and the air will be perfumed by fruits and blossoms and everyone will be energetic and ready to build the homes of their dreams.

Thy Kingdom Come!
A new system where all religions are outlawed, a downtrend in the human population rates by way of infertility programs, and a global communal effort towards the conservation of all flora and fauna on this planet.

Praise the Goddess,
Awomen.
 

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Let's just face it...

Choppers in SF doing urban warfare drills the other day.....



Just a taste of what's inevitably coming to the West.
 

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Let's just face it...

Choppers in SF doing urban warfare drills the other day.....



Just a taste of what's inevitably coming to the West.


I’m happy to pick the Golden State over any other
 

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I’m happy to pick the Golden State over any other
You ought to take your gold and silver out of the safety deposit box and hide it in an underground safe with a trusted family member on their private property @Seamajor. In hard times the government or banks go after whatever they can find.

Even in Canada the banks can withold items from the boxholders.
 

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You ought to take your gold out of the safety deposit box and hide it underground with a trusted family member @Seamajor. In hard times the government or banks go after whatever they can find.

Even in Canada the banks can withold items from the boxholders.

I adore my precious metals. Gonna treat myself to 2 new 1 Oz gold coins I’ve been eying.
 

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I adore my precious metals. Gonna treat myself to 2 new 1 Oz gold coins I’ve been eying.
Yeah but i wouldnt store them in a bank's safety deposit box.

If youre a person of means who owns property you should store it in a safe there.

Banks now are like the fox which guards the henhouse.

Just a bit of advice thats all.
 
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....well in that case, so is unbridled capitalism @Biggie Smiles.

Actually neither communisn, capitalism & fascism have anything to do with God other than man deciding that he was or would play God.

These ideologies are all derived from Social Darwinism. Survival of the Fittest. Autocratic rulers in communism/fascism = greedy ceo's/elites masquerading around as democratic. They are all the same and quite obviously this mentality of grabbing everything for themselves is destroying the planet.

Reasoning is since there is no God & Nature is no longer sacred man can play God under the guise of these ideologies and wreck the planet, wipe out nations and destroy cultures as he pleases.

That is the essence of social darwinism. I dont know why everyone thought Charles Darwin was such as swell guy and the destructive ideologies he spawned were so wonderful. No wonder the CEOs, Elites & dictators adore Darwin so much because he validated their excesses.

All of those ideologies have blood on their hands thanks in large part to Charles Darwin.

Capitalism isnt an ideology, Joe. It's the default trade humans always engage in.

I'll give you some eggs from my chickens if you give me some milk from your cow.

I'll mow your grass if you give me some seeds.

Its every black market. Every form of free trade. There is no ideology. Its the natural state.

Turning human beings into state property will help you see what you gave up if you think communism is just another way of doing things. This attitude shows people have been free and prosperous so long they dont realize how good they have it.
 

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I'll put forth a more substantive dialogue when I have a bit more time @Dove . Gotta run soon. Off ta work.
 

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Yeah but i wouldnt store them in a bank's safety deposit box.

If youre a person of means who owns property you should store it in a safe there.

Banks now are like the fox which guards the henhouse.

Just a bit of advice thats all.

I bank with a small local bank at home. I know the manager very well. Not worried. Are you into metals Joe?
 

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I’m eying 2 of these. Gold is up about $5. today. Previous metals will be more meaningful when things start falling apart.
 

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....well in that case, so is unbridled capitalism @Biggie Smiles.

Actually neither communisn, capitalism & fascism have anything to do with God other than man deciding that he was or would play God.

These ideologies are all derived from Social Darwinism. Survival of the Fittest. Autocratic rulers in communism/fascism = greedy ceo's/elites masquerading around as democratic. They are all the same and quite obviously this mentality of grabbing everything for themselves is destroying the planet.

Reasoning is since there is no God & Nature is no longer sacred man can play God under the guise of these ideologies and wreck the planet, wipe out nations and destroy cultures as he pleases.

That is the essence of social darwinism. I dont know why everyone thought Charles Darwin was such as swell guy and the destructive ideologies he spawned were so wonderful. No wonder the CEOs, Elites & dictators adore Darwin so much because he validated their excesses.

All of those ideologies have blood on their hands thanks in large part to Charles Darwin.

Darwin was also taken out of context and that is used today. He certainly believed in God and apparently said so in his book page c. 96... around there somewhere.

Social Darwinism? I have never heard the expression so now I have just learned something new, although I know what survival of the fittest means, I think it isn't really true. I personally think it's survival of the smartest....the are plenty of sickly people who survive because they are smart.

Without even exploring it I get it. COMMUNISM is about total equality... if one is poor, we are all poor... if one is rich, we all share in the wealth... that was the THEORY behind communism.

Socialism is about a blend of both communism and capitalism...for some reason Americans think socialism is the same as communism. It isn't.

I can only go by how Australia was run previously... it was good when the Government owned all the amenities plus Qantas and we had a thriving privately owned business industry....

Everything has turned to shit thanks to covid 19 I guess. There is no cure except perhaps time righting the situation.

We still get to eat... most of us have a roof over our heads.... for now the boogy man is still tied.