Why is it the GOP that is keeping the impeachment discussion alive?

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You, pal, are not a god. You do not know the first thing about my thinking. You are obtuse, judgmental, and basically stupid. No pronouncements you make about me are correct.

You don't even understand your own thinking...
 

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*cough*Obamacare*cough*

Originated from The Heritage Foundation and was essentially a scaled-up version of the program that Mittens Romney initiated in his state. It was great for Big Insurance but did fuckall to fix 'Murica's health "care" system.

The only thing it's an example of is Obummer's corporatism.
 

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Originated from The Heritage Foundation and was essentially a scaled-up version of the program that Mittens Romney initiated in his state. It was great for Big Insurance but did fuckall to fix 'Murica's health "care" system.

The only thing it's an example of is Obummer's corporatism.


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I don't like the Heritage Foundation so this is not a defence of it.... simply the background.
 

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Nope. The government doesn't fund shit; taxpayers do.

Taxes don't fund anything in a fiat monetary system. Congress creates dollars through appropriations and taxes delete money from circulation; taxes exist primarily to ensure a steady demand for dollars (needed to pay taxes) and thus prop up the currency's valuation.

Taxes have been weaponized like everything else in a predatory capitalist system and part of that weaponization is the Big Lie that any/everything is "taxpayer funded". That's only an excuse *not* to spend money on programs to benefit citizens instead of transferring wealth to oligarchs and the military industrial complex.

There's always a blank check for more war or to bail out wall street but programs to improve the lives of citizens are constantly stonewalled with the ol' "how ya gonna pay for that?" bullshit. An exhausted scared and desperate populace is easier to control and less likely to revolt.
 

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So weird coming from a nobody insignificant ass like yourself

If you listen very carefully, you should be able to hear the head nurse announce tapioca pudding, Jello cups, and Rusk wafers being served in the Sun Room....
 

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Tell me again that I'm a broke 2 packs per day (20 counts) chain smoker but can afford 85 bucks AUD for a 40 pack of smokes.

Your mind is very mushy, mate.
 

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No it’s not DD. Your life is mush and beyond. You are an addicted smoker who will die from it as did your mother father and grand parent. Even a fool would wake up to the issue.
 

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No it’s not DD. Your life is mush and beyond. You are an addicted smoker who will die from it as did your mother father and grand parent. Even a fool would wake up to the issue.

Proof of any of your claims? Hmmm?
 

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Taxes don't fund anything in a fiat monetary system. Congress creates dollars through appropriations and taxes delete money from circulation; taxes exist primarily to ensure a steady demand for dollars (needed to pay taxes) and thus prop up the currency's valuation.

Taxes have been weaponized like everything else in a predatory capitalist system and part of that weaponization is the Big Lie that any/everything is "taxpayer funded". That's only an excuse *not* to spend money on programs to benefit citizens instead of transferring wealth to oligarchs and the military industrial complex.

There's always a blank check for more war or to bail out wall street but programs to improve the lives of citizens are constantly stonewalled with the ol' "how ya gonna pay for that?" bullshit. An exhausted scared and desperate populace is easier to control and less likely to revolt.
The point was dispelling the myth that the government 'pays for' anything from the value of its own labor, as if Congress creatures are out digging ditches and laying bricks to earn a buck, then spending their own earnings.
 

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But proof? Any proof?
All smokers end up the same. Like you. I remember a post you made referring to mom and dad stopping to buy smokes and you kids getting candy cigs and bubble gum. The rest is history DD. Remember? i bet you’ve got one between your fingers right now. Right?
 

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All smokers end up the same. Like you. I remember a post you made referring to mom and dad stopping to buy smokes and you kids getting candy cigs and bubble gum. The rest is history DD. Remember? i bet you’ve got one between your fingers right now. Right?

Another made up story?
 

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The point was dispelling the myth that the government 'pays for' anything from the value of its own labor, as if Congress creatures are out digging ditches and laying bricks to earn a buck, then spending their own earnings.
Who ever claimed that the government's labor value paid for anything? You are the King of Making Assumptions. Incorrect assumptions.
 

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LoLz, dooood - He's is/was a corporate conservative which is why I never voted for him. :LOL3:
. You kill me though...you so funny sometimes.
Obamacare was a gift to insurers. He must have thought it was better to cover more Americans with insurance since there weren't Democrats courageous enough to pass Universal Healthcare.

They are a feckless lot abd care about their careers more than the people by miles.
 
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Obamacare was a gift to insurers. He must have thought it was better to cover more Americans with insurance since there weren't Democrats courageous enough to pass Universal Healthcare.

They are a feckless lot abd care about their careers more than the people by miles.
That is the whole point of insurance, shared risk. The bigger the pool of insured the bigger the war chest is to pay for catastrophic losses.
 

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That is the whole point of insurance, shared risk. The bigger the pool of insured the bigger the war chest is to pay for catastrophic losses.
I know that Admin. The problem is that it still didn't cover all Americans, and it's a patchwork system...with lots of gaps.

It's mediocre at best. There should be a Medicare for all option for Americans. And the wealthy can do what the fuck they already do, pay fee for service to doctors of their choosing.

Obamacare is a boon for everyone but the average American...physicians, hospitals, and insurers.
 

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Obamacare was a gift to insurers. He must have thought it was better to cover more Americans with insurance since there weren't Democrats courageous enough to pass Universal Healthcare.

They are a feckless lot abd care about their careers more than the people by miles.

Obummer never cared about 'Muricans which should have been obvious to all when he let CitiGroup choose his first cabinet for him. After that the "Affordable Care Act" (during negotiations the first element to fall off the table was a public option... the very thing he promised during his campaign) as well as his reactions to events like Occupy Wall Street and the Standing Rock protest weren't surprising at all.