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This is somewhat off-topic but not completely as it may impact PC gamers too:



Many older PCs may not run the newer games without this OS upgrade - or they may only half work.

Any thoughts about this EOL support?
 

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Remember Bill Gates? The same dude who likes to play world savior, defender of the environment, champion of ecosystems and whatnot?

It's his company that released this aberration called Windows 11, which is turning tens of millions of decent computers into e-waste

Not the first time he's done it either.

Vista was the same crap, an overloaded, bloated, graphic-intensive OS that made a lot of PCs obsolete back in 2007
 

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Remember Bill Gates? The same dude who likes to play world savior, defender of the environment, champion of ecosystems and whatnot?

It's his company that released this aberration called Windows 11, which is turning tens of millions of decent computers into e-waste

Not the first time he's done it either.

Vista was the same crap, an overloaded, bloated, graphic-intensive OS that made a lot of PCs obsolete back in 2007
Bill retired from Microsoft in 2008, he owns less than 1% of its stock. You can hate Microsoft and you can hate Bill but it's not Bill's Playhouse anymore and hasn't been for quite some time.

Vista was Steve Ballmer's screw up,
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Remember Bill Gates? The same dude who likes to play world savior, defender of the environment, champion of ecosystems and whatnot?

It's his company that released this aberration called Windows 11, which is turning tens of millions of decent computers into e-waste

Not the first time he's done it either.

Vista was the same crap, an overloaded, bloated, graphic-intensive OS that made a lot of PCs obsolete back in 2007
I bought a computer recently that can accommodate Windows 11 @RANCIDMILKO ™ ®© so I'll try it out.

Same time I get that itchy feeling Windows 11 won't be around long. That soon after within a year Windows 12 or its equivalent will be announced.

Theres something about Windows 11 which seems very fleeting wont last long. So on that regard it will probably resemble Windows Vista.
 

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Bill retired from Microsoft in 2008, he owns less than 1% of its stock. You can hate Microsoft and you can hate Bill but it's not Bill's Playhouse anymore and hasn't been for quite some time.

Yeah, I guess it's silly to tie MS and Gates these days. But apparently he was ok with the new OS, even though almost all of the IT community is irked at the requirements to get it running.

Vista was Steve Ballmer's screw up,
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They can add W11 to that list
 

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This is somewhat off-topic but not completely as it may impact PC gamers too:



Many older PCs may not run the newer games without this OS upgrade - or they may only half work.

Any thoughts about this EOL support?


I haven't seen games that requires W11 specifically, but it shouldn't be long now

Right now, it's the new games that require native Ray Tracing GPUs that are pissing people off
 
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I'm not that fortunate. But for someone who likes the kind of gaming Linux doesn't do -- specifically, multiplayer online gaming -- I'd suggest splitting that activity off to a gaming console.
 

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Adoption rate of Windows 11 has been slow...



So that may help explain why support is being dropped for 10 so it will force people to upgrade to 11

How sad is that? Discovering that your userbase is so unenthusiastic about your latest OS that the only way to get them to use it is to sunset the OS they prefer.

If there's a slimier way to force userbase migration (outside of overtly sabotaging their preferred system) I find myself hard-pressed to conceive of it.
 

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Adoption rate of Windows 11 has been slow...



So that may help explain why support is being dropped for 10 so it will force people to upgrade to 11

.. Thanks, Joe. Thanks for remining me of what I dred every day...I know I have to buy a new computer because these dooshiz are obsoleting mine...not that anything is wrong with it.
You know, it's a tool is all, like a screwdriver. Do I have to replace a screwdriver every 8-12 years? Fuck no.
They come with a lifetime guarantee and don't cost hundreds of dollars....and they don't have fits and malfunction or require updates. I have fishing reels that never gave me a day of trouble for 40 years, but these fucking computers...soooo sophisticated and high tech. Yeah right, man. WHERE'S MY LIFETIME GUARANTEE?

FUCK YOU, MICROSOFT !!!
 

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Theres something about Windows 11 which seems very fleeting wont last long. So on that regard it will probably resemble Windows Vista.
11 is more like xp.
 

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I bought a computer recently that can accommodate Windows 11 @RANCIDMILKO ™ ®© so I'll try it out.

Same time I get that itchy feeling Windows 11 won't be around long. That soon after within a year Windows 12 or its equivalent will be announced.

Theres something about Windows 11 which seems very fleeting wont last long. So on that regard it will probably resemble Windows Vista.

Windows 12 is already on the works, it might be called something else, but the thing is, it's gonna be more of a "service" and as cloud-based as possible
 
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.. Thanks, Joe. Thanks for remining me of what I dred every day...I know I have to buy a new computer because these dooshiz are obsoleting mine...not that anything is wrong with it.

FUCK YOU, MICROSOFT !!!
Sorry @The New Holliday

I was just trying to find a way to keep using Windows 10. Guess I'll upgrade to winsows 11 but will try to keep a copy of 10 running on another partition.

Anyway I looked into it. But it says a person needs access to a Microsoft 365 or Azure account to access an ESU (Extended Security Update) program to keep on receiving updates for windows 10. And the to make it even more complicated, it can't be from a personal account.

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Then it's possible to continue getting security updates for another 3 years.

In some other link, they said the price ranges from FREE to $30/year or $61/per year.

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I was really confused by the wording in that article.

For some reason, I was lucky enough to acquire a 365 account in the past so I can do it.

But I'm not sure how anyone else can get access to it as Microsoft seems to discourage existing users from staying with 10.
 
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Here's what Microsoft says about the cost and availability of the windows 10 updates:

How much does ESU cost?

Extended Security Updates for organizations and businesses on Windows 10 can be purchased today through the Microsoft Volume Licensing Program, at $61 USD per device for Year One. For more information, see
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. The price doubles every consecutive year, for a maximum of three years. ESU is available at no additional cost for Windows 10 virtual machines in the following services:

Additionally, Windows 10 endpoints connecting to Windows 365 Cloud PCs will be entitled to the ESU for up to three years, with an active Windows 365 subscription license. For more information about Windows 365, see
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For individuals or Windows 10 Home customers, Extended Security Updates for Windows 10 will be available for purchase at $30 for one year.

Is there a minimum license purchase requirement for Windows 10 ESU?

The minimum license purchase requirements for Windows 10 ESU is one license.
 

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Here's what Microsoft says about the cost and availability of the windows 10 updates:

How much does ESU cost?

Extended Security Updates for organizations and businesses on Windows 10 can be purchased today through the Microsoft Volume Licensing Program, at $61 USD per device for Year One. For more information, see
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. The price doubles every consecutive year, for a maximum of three years. ESU is available at no additional cost for Windows 10 virtual machines in the following services:

Additionally, Windows 10 endpoints connecting to Windows 365 Cloud PCs will be entitled to the ESU for up to three years, with an active Windows 365 subscription license. For more information about Windows 365, see
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For individuals or Windows 10 Home customers, Extended Security Updates for Windows 10 will be available for purchase at $30 for one year.

Is there a minimum license purchase requirement for Windows 10 ESU?

The minimum license purchase requirements for Windows 10 ESU is one license.
That was very helpful, Joe.
 
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That was very helpful, Joe.
Like yourself, I have to find ways to keep my existing computer up and running to without buying a new system.

I gotta Mac, but Apple will also discontinue support for many of their older models.

So maybe after that I'll just switch to Linux & Windows when the Apple OS partition becomes becomes obsolete.

Ultimately, Linux is the best end game option for older End of Life PC's.

One silver lining is that more mainstream software apps are starting to appear for Linux.

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And of course there are many more FREE apps.

Many games & apps are now made for Mac OS X, Windows AND Linux.

Try STEAM. I think they offer multi platform.for Games and other apps.

For Wintel PCs many try to get a dual boot with Windows and Linux on it.
 
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Try STEAM. I think they offer multi platform.for Games and other apps.
Steam also offers the Proton translation layer, which can enable Windows-native games on Linux. The sticking point is online multiplayer titles, for which the devs refuse to support Linux due to their anti-cheat schema not functioning on it.

For Windows apps, there's a package called Bottles, which does much the same thing.
 
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Steam also offers the Proton translation layer, which can enable Windows-native games on Linux. The sticking point is online multiplayer titles, for which the devs refuse to support Linux due to their anti-cheat schema not functioning on it.

For Windows apps, there's a package called Bottles, which does much the same thing.
I confess, I'm not that sophisticated or computer literate.

But thanks for the information.

I just wanna find a way to keep using the old computer & the old software on it too without having to buy more stuff or upgrade. If I can keep using the current system for at least another 5 years? Maybe even 10? That'd be a good way to stretch the dollar.
 

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I confess, I'm not that sophisticated or computer literate.

But thanks for the information.

I just wanna find a way to keep using the old computer & the old software on it too without having to buy more stuff or upgrade. If I can keep using the current system for at least another 5 years? Maybe even 10? That'd be a good way to stretch the dollar.
Say, @Joe , do you know if one goes to Linux if files from a Windows OS computer can be imported?...
...or if Linux can read Windows files on the same computer?
I have read not. Any tricks?

Now I'm reading maybe yes.
"disable auto mounting". Why am I thinking Paris Hilton?
 

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Say, @Joe , do you know if one goes to Linux if files from a Windows OS computer can be imported?...
...or if Linux can read Windows files on the same computer?
I have read not. Any tricks?

Now I'm reading maybe yes.
"disable auto mounting". Why am I thinking Paris Hilton?
Linux distros can read Windows filesystems such as NTFS. Windows, on the other hand, can't read Linux filesystems such as BTRFS, Ext4, etc.
 
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Say, @Joe , do you know if one goes to Linux if files from a Windows OS computer can be imported?...
...or if Linux can read Windows files on the same computer?
I have read not. Any tricks?
I guess you have to experiment @The New Holliday .

There's an increasing number of software apps that are multiplatform for Mac, Windows AND Linux.

So they should have common file formats that will open up on another operating system.

Some FREE multiplatform apps include Blender, Open Office, Krita. Of course there are many others that are tri OS. Have to get a list.

If I were a heavy Windows user, I'd probably get a dual boot on my PC so I could use Windows & Linux interchangeably & exchange files back and forth. And then have a software app on Windows and the same one on Linux. Such as Open Office which is essentially a FREE version of MS Office. It's not perfect but it's one of the better alternatives to it.

My experience is that sometimes files created on a Mac open up seamlessly in Windows but other times they don't. or vice versa. The same is probably true trying to open them up in Linux.

Often times there are these separate software converter apps that massage the files so they can be opened up in another program or OS. That reduces the incompatibilities of the exchanged files so the other OS can read or translate them better.
 

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I guess you have to experiment @The New Holliday .

There's an increasing number of software apps that are multiplatform for Mac, Windows AND Linux.

So they should have common file formats that will open up on another operating system.

Some FREE multiplatform apps include Blender, Open Office, Krita. Of course there are many others that are tri OS. Have to get a list.

If I were a heavy Windows user, I'd probably get a dual boot on my PC so I could use Windows & Linux interchangeably & exchange files back and forth. And then have a software app on Windows and the same one on Linux. Such as Open Office which is essentially a FREE version of MS Office. It's not perfect but it's one of the better alternatives to it.

My experience is that sometimes files created on a Mac open up seamlessly in Windows but other times they don't. or vice versa. The same is probably true trying to open them up in Linux.

Often times there are these separate software converter apps that massage the files so they can be opened up in another program or OS. That reduces the incompatibilities of the exchanged files so the other OS can read or translate them better.
Yeah, I use Open Office for my docs, and otherwise I'm just thinking of picture files.