So How's the "Disclosure" Going UFO Fans?

[Holliday 3000]

I have none.

I always appreciate an honest answer the most. ++

 

[Frood]

I always appreciate an honest answer the most. ++

You didn't quote all I said.

 

[Everlast]

NOPE. Only time I wanted to believe in them was when I was a wee lad watching the original STAR TREK series. I'd often go out on the porch I don't know 8-9 years old stare at the stars for hours wondering what was out there.
Over 40 years later not a fucking thing. Fuck staring into space, just live my best life. Enjoy it all online and real life while I can. Life is so much better that way.
If shit changes when I am dead my kids grandkids will no doubt get a kick outta it all.

 

[Holliday 3000]

NOPE. Only time I wanted to believe in them was when I was a wee lad watching the original STAR TREK series. I'd often go out on the porch I don't know 8-9 years old stare at the stars for hours wondering what was out there.
Over 40 years later not a fucking thing. Fuck staring into space, just live my best life. Enjoy it all online and real life while I can. Life is so much better that way.
If shit changes when I am dead my kids grandkids will no doubt get a kick outta it all.

"Watch the skies, everywhere! Keep looking. Keep watching the skies!"

 

[Garraty_47]

So please, tell me on what actual tangible evidence you believe or desire to believe that beings from other planets/galaxies have travelled to Earth in space craft.

I don't know for a fact they have, but all things considered I think it's highly likely.

There's no lack of circumstantial evidence going all the way back to hieroglyphs and cave paintings that entities apparently not from one of the local tribes, if you know what I mean, have visited Earth civilizations before. There's also no lack of anecdotal evidence that these visitations continue to occur.

The fact that they don't leave behind much (or anything, if you prefer) in the way of physical evidence could be the same simple reason campers and researchers take all their crap back out with them when they return from visiting pristine natural areas. It's The Prime Directive, innit.

As for how they got here at all, that's a ridiculous question.

If we already knew how to do that we'd be doing that, not hypothesizing about whether or not it could be done.

There's too much we don't know yet for us to even know what we don't know.

You might as well be asking a neanderthal how long it would take him to fly to the moon. He wouldn't consider things like rockets or radiation or vacuum; he'd be wondering just how hard he would need to flap his arms.

 

[Holliday 3000]

I don't know for a fact they have, but all things considered I think it's highly likely.

There's no lack of circumstantial evidence going all the way back to hieroglyphs and cave paintings that entities apparently not from one of the local tribes, if you know what I mean, have visited Earth civilizations before. There's also no lack of anecdotal evidence that these visitations continue to occur.

The fact that they don't leave behind much (or anything, if you prefer) in the way of physical evidence could be the same simple reason campers and researchers take all their crap back out with them when they return from visiting pristine natural areas. It's The Prime Directive, innit.

As for how they got here at all, that's a ridiculous question.

If we already knew how to do that we'd be doing that, not hypothesizing about whether or not it could be done.

There's too much we don't know yet for us to even know what we don't know.

You might as well be asking a neanderthal how long it would take him to fly to the moon. He wouldn't consider things like rockets or radiation or vacuum; he'd be wondering just how hard he would need to flap his arms.

So nothing then. thousands of years of "visitations" and zero tangible evidence of beings in spacecraft, just some misinterpretation of text and rock art. Otay.
Oh, and apparently the lack of evidence is itself evidence. LoLz

 

[Garraty_47]

So nothing then. thousands of years of "visitations" and zero tangible evidence of beings in spacecraft, just some misinterpretation of text and rock art. Otay.
Oh, and apparently the lack of evidence is itself evidence. LoLz

Interpret what I actually poasted however you need to support your preconceived notions and conclusions.

That's how it works, right? Right.

You don't want a discussion... you only want opportunities to use blanket generalities, logical fallacies, and manipulative syntax to reinforce your predetermined argument(s). You, sir, are a pretentious twat bag. You're a bag of twats.

There's a bag full of twats here, and you're one of them.

Enjoy talking to yourself if that makes you feel clever and something tells me it's one of the few things that can.

Sayonara!

 

[Holliday 3000]

Interpret what I actually poasted however you need to support your preconceived notions and conclusions.

That's how it works, right? Right.

You don't want a discussion... you only want opportunities to use blanket generalities, logical fallacies, and manipulative syntax to reinforce your predetermined argument(s). You, sir, are a pretentious twat bag. You're a bag of twats.

There's a bag full of twats here, and you're one of them.

Enjoy talking to yourself if that makes you feel clever and something tells me it's one of the few things that can.

Sayonara!

...and to think I didn't vote for you as Nastiest Poster. Pashaw !

You see, I haven't preconceived notions. I read all of the Von Daniken books as a teen, I've reviewed all of the so called proof in ancient text (but in proper context), and find it all lacking as proof of anything under discussion. I still watch the silly shows on the tel for yuks, and wonder how dumb one has to be to find their conclusions plausible. Yes, one indeed must WANT to believe to actually believe it.

PS: I don't know if I like you anymore. You speak such harsh words.

 

[Seamajor]

Interpret what I actually poasted however you need to support your preconceived notions and conclusions.

That's how it works, right? Right.

You don't want a discussion... you only want opportunities to use blanket generalities, logical fallacies, and manipulative syntax to reinforce your predetermined argument(s). You, sir, are a pretentious twat bag. You're a bag of twats.

There's a bag full of twats here, and you're one of them.

Enjoy talking to yourself if that makes you feel clever and something tells me it's one of the few things that can.

Sayonara!

Clearing your throat would be the way to start

 

[Holliday 3000]

Clearing your throat would be the way to start

He'll be okay, just needs another cup of joe and a smoke. Lad's got to wake up then he won't be so ornery.



...and a piece of pie...

 

[Reggie_Essent]

... You, sir, are a pretentious twat bag. You're a bag of twats.

There's a bag full of twats here, and you're one of them.

You're just figuring that out about Holliday? I thought you'd be a bit quicker on that.

 

[Garraty_47]

You're just figuring that out about Holliday? I thought you'd be a bit quicker on that.

This was the first time he's engaged in such unserious and bad faith "debate" with me; I am at heart a kind and optimistic person, possibly to a fault I'll be the first to admit.

I don't reject people easily or reflexively for merely disagreeing with me. Hell, if I did that I'd never speak to or willingly associate with most of the people on this planet.

I'm hopeful this was an aberration, maybe a topic which Holly has somehow become irrational about. If so it'll be easy enough to avoid similar discussions while peacefully interacting with him on other subjects.

I reckon only time will tell.

 

[Holliday 3000]

Completely random and irrelevant musical interlude:

 

[Holliday 3000]

Highly relevant and specifically targeted musical interlude:

 

[Garraty_47]

 

[Reggie_Essent]

This was the first time he's engaged in such unserious and bad faith "debate" with me; I am at heart a kind and optimistic person, possibly to a fault I'll be the first to admit.

I don't reject people easily or reflexively for merely disagreeing with me. Hell, if I did that I'd never speak to or willingly associate with most of the people on this planet.

I'm hopeful this was an aberration, maybe a topic which Holly has somehow become irrational about. If so it'll be easy enough to avoid similar discussions while peacefully interacting with him on other subjects.

I reckon only time will tell.

I think Holliday may be an alien and may just poo poo the idea of aliens to keep his cover. He certainly doesn't think or communicate like an actual human.

 

[Garraty_47]

I think Holliday may be an alien and may just poo poo the idea of aliens to keep his cover. He certainly doesn't think or communicate like an actual human.

That explanation does seem to make his behavior more rational at least.

By golly you might be onto something there.

So...
...where do you think he's actually from? One of the known galaxies, a celestial neighborhood we don't even know about yet, or something more exotic like an alternate dimension?

 

[Reggie_Essent]

That explanation does seem to make his behavior more rational at least.

By golly you might be onto something there.

So...
...where do you think he's actually from? One of the known galaxies, a celestial neighborhood we don't even know about yet, or something more exotic like an alternate dimension?

I think he came from a polluted planet in the Pleiades. That would explain why he feels so at home in New Jersey.

 

[Garraty_47]

I think he came from a polluted planet in the Pleiades. That would explain why he feels so at home in New Jersey.

I'll bet it's called something like Sân-Nâp Bîn and it's where the Sisters dispose of their used pads.

Not sure exactly what that says about his attraction to Fred but it's probably not very nice.

 

[Seamajor]

I think he came from a polluted planet in the Pleiades. That would explain why he feels so at home in New Jersey.

The Pleiades is in and around Mt. Shasta. Where the giant people roam

 

[Holliday 3000]

 

[Frood]

Holliday tried to pull a fast one in selectively quoting me earlier, got called out for it, then he went silent....

 

[Holliday 3000]

Holliday tried to pull a fast one in selectively quoting me earlier, got called out for it, then he went silent....

People in the know know'd I was out grocery shopping.

Oh and PS: For the information of the general public, I did have another cup of coffee and are about to have a piece of pie.

 

[Garraty_47]

 

[Holliday 3000]

They also eat purple people.

 

[Garraty_47]

 

[Holliday 3000]

akay akay, so there is some confusion here, and I will take responsibility for it.
I may not have phrased the original, or reiterated question clearly enough.

I am fully open to the idea that alien beings have flown to Earth from far off places,
just present your irrefutable evidence.
That's all I'm asking. Convince me.

Now in previous iterations of discussion on this and related topics I have presented a number of studies on the psychology of the conspiracy theorist, though it seems pretty plain and straight forward to any objective person...but let's not muddy the thread with that now. 'kay?

 

[Holliday 3000]

 

[Garraty_47]

One for the road...

 

[Garraty_47]

JINX!!