Does the United States need a New Conservative Party?

[Joe]

....instead of the Republicans?

Much has been made about the divide between moderate Democrats & Progressives.

However it seems even more stark on the Right. The current edition of the Republican party doesn't represent conservative values. Many true conservatives in the Republican party are at odds with the Trump administration over no more wars & their budget deficits/ overspending, their close association with Russia Putin & Israel.

Seems it'd make sense if the true conservatives in the Republican party left to form their own & let the Maga Right stay in the Republican party and let them go on their own tangent while the former restore some sanity on the Right

 

[Holliday 3000]

....instead of the Republicans?

I would suggest not.
. We need to move forward and leave conservatism behind.
Look at the shit show it's created and ask
if you want more of that.

PS: the Dems will still exist.
Are they really not conservative enough...maybe too much?

PPS: what we actually need is an authentically Liberal party.
Dems are already what is the new conservative party.

 

[Joe]

I would suggest not.
. We need to move forward and leave conservatism behind.
Look at the shit show it's created and ask
if you want more of that.

PS: the Dems will still exist.
Are they really not conservative enough...maybe too much?

But the media and their friends on the right insist that the democrats have gone too left while in actuality it's the Republican party which has gone too far to the right @Holliday 3000

 

[Holliday 3000]

But the media and their friends on the right insist that the democrats have gone too left while in actuality it's the Republican party which has gone too far to the right @Holliday 3000

Well, I don't know what they mean by left. When you go full corporatist, cater to special interests,
and engage in endless identity politics, then you've gone conservative.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Watching Holliday and Joe talk about politics is like watching monkeys masturbate at the zoo.

 

[Holliday 3000]

Watching Holliday and Joe talk about politics is like watching monkeys masturbate at the zoo.

...and that's why you spend so much time at the zoo...at the monkey cages?
. For the masturbation?

 

[Reggie_Essent]

...and that's why you spend so much time at the zoo...at the monkey cages?
. For the masturbation?

Did I ever tell you the story about a famous chimp they had at Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago? True story. They had this chimp at that zoo that would start fondling itself whenever a group of children was brought into the monkey house. I personally witnessed this during a field trip to the zoo when I was in grade school. They eventually had to keep the old chimp in a pen in the back until it died, but to this day is a local legend here in Chicagoland.

I think the chimp's name was Admin.

 

[Holliday 3000]

Did I ever tell you the story about a famous chimp they had at Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago? True story. They had this chimp at that zoo that would start fondling itself whenever a group of children was brought into the monkey house. I personally witnessed this during a field trip to the zoo when I was in grade school. They eventually had to keep the old chimp in a pen in the back until it died, but to this day is a local legend here in Chicagoland.

I think the chimp's name was Admin.

I'd heard of that or another similar case.
.Must have been a conservative if children
drove it into a sexual frenzy.
Maybe its name was Donald.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I'd heard of that or another similar case.
.Must have been a conservative if children
drove it into a sexual frenzy.
Maybe its name was Donald.

Are you calling our Admin. a conservative?! How could you do such a thing to your old pal?

 

[Joe]

Watching Holliday and Joe talk about politics is like watching monkeys masturbate at the zoo.

Here watch this video Reggie:



@Weeg should watch the video too!

It pretty well sums up what the good Ron Paul says about the current state of your beloved Republican Party @Reggie_Essent .

And I encourage your fellow Republicans in this forum to listen to what Mr Paul had to say Reggie

 

[Alfred E. Neutrump]

A middle of the road party would be nice. I haven't voted since 2000 because I just don't want to associate with idiots.

 

[Garraty_47]

I unfortunately believe the 'Murican populace is too brainwashed and dumbed-down to free itself from the yoke of duopoly. Just as the democrats use sheepdogs like Sanders and a few others to give lip service to progressive policies/shifts with the only result being to shepherd voters back into a uselessly corrupt party the republicans will do the same, sending their baited candidates out to make the right noises like muttering the seductive promise of re-aligning the republican party with "average americans" but in the end nothing will fundamentally change.

The major parties are where revolutionary energy goes to be nullified, murdered, and buried in an unmarked grave.

The duopoly isn't *really* oppositional to each other; both lie to and gaslight their respective constituencies in order to preserve the status quo but neither actually believes any of the shit spewing from their crusty face holes.

They both serve a continuity of agenda that has fuckall to do with what 'Muricans want or need.

Want change?
First: abandon the duopoly.
Until that's accomplished nothing else means a damn thing.

 

[The Prowler]

Want change?
First: abandon the duopoly.
Until that's accomplished nothing else means a damn thing.

You kinda need to have a plan before abandoning the duopoly.

And if you are looking for good ideas for building a better system, Joe and Holiday are only going to disappoint you. Haha!!