April is Confederate History Month!

[Holliday Unchained]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

 

[Holliday Unchained]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

I'm all for it.
Let me help you, moron.
My three favorite European historical figures are John III Sobieski, Vlad Dracula, and Charles Martel.

I'll waist no more posts on a dope like you.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

I'm all for it.
Let me help you, moron.
My three favorite European historical figures are John III Sobieski, Vlad Dracula, and Charles Martel.

I'll waist no more posts on a dope like you.

OWNED

 

[Holliday Unchained]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

I'm all for it.
Let me help you, moron.
My three favorite European historical figures are John III Sobieski, Vlad Dracula, and Charles Martel.

I'll waist no more posts on a dope like you.

OWNED

You certainly are.

 

[Joe]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

Actually you have an interesting point.

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent.

But this is never pointed out.

Europe isn't a melting point like North America.

Hence, it tends to be more culturally rigid and hostile to outsiders who try to tamper with or re-arrange the existing social/cultural order.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

Actually you have an interesting point.

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent.

But this is never pointed out.

Europe isn't a melting point like North America.

Hence, it tends to be more culturally rigid and hostile to outsiders who try to tamper with or re-arrange the existing social/cultural order.

It's all down to Europeans though, created everything worthy of note... Take my country of only 5million, TV, PHONE,PENICILLIN use, FOOTBALL, GOLF, KILTS. INTERNET and whiskey to name a few... Can I cry cultural appropriation when someone of non Euro decent uses any of that or does it just apply to white kids wearing Moana costumes etc

 

[Joe]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

Actually you have an interesting point.

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent.

But this is never pointed out.

Europe isn't a melting point like North America.

Hence, it tends to be more culturally rigid and hostile to outsiders who try to tamper with or re-arrange the existing social/cultural order.

It's all down to Europeans though, created everything worthy of note... Take my country of only 5million, TV, PHONE,PENICILLIN use, FOOTBALL, GOLF, KILTS. INTERNET and whiskey to name a few... Can I cry cultural appropriation when someone of non Euro decent uses any of that or does it just apply to white kids wearing Moana costumes etc

My Favorite Hollywood Cultural Appropriation Scene...




...non Scots performing as them with fake accents

Perhaps a few historical inaccuracies evident as well. (?)

 

[LotusBud]

Anyways...the CSA is jes history now.

Instead of getting worked up about it,
People should git over it and see it as some historical context

I was thinkin this thread should be about the Good & the Bad aspects about it.

Teh Confederacy gets so much flack about its slave holding past, and yet these civilizations we call 'Great' had significantly more of it goin' on and likely a lot more depraved than the Confederacy.

ie - Ancient Egypt, Rome and Ancient Greece just some examples.

For better wor worse, this thread should be about what it was like to live back then.

That is probably true about ancient civilizations, but the fallout from savery, including Jim Crow and other kinds of systemic racism, seriously affected people who are still alive now and have directly shaped the society we live in now.

 

[Holliday Unchained]

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent

Maybe because since people deny the term native to American Injins whose history stretches back some 15K years and because, at least according to many, the modern Euros only goes back about 7K, there having been people who they displaced. At least that's one version of history. Then again, I wasn't there any more than you were.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent

Maybe because since people deny the term native to American Injins whose history stretches back some 15K years and because, at least according to many, the modern Euros only goes back about 7K, there having been people who they displaced. At least that's one version of history. Then again, I wasn't there any more than you were.

So where the fuck did we come from you fuckin idiot? The black mans arse? Do you identify as a cave beast from the caucus mountains, birthed by aliens? GTFO off our internet and go bang sticks with the dindus ffs...

 

[SHAMPAIN]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

Actually you have an interesting point.

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent.

But this is never pointed out.

Europe isn't a melting point like North America.

Hence, it tends to be more culturally rigid and hostile to outsiders who try to tamper with or re-arrange the existing social/cultural order.

It's all down to Europeans though, created everything worthy of note... Take my country of only 5million, TV, PHONE,PENICILLIN use, FOOTBALL, GOLF, KILTS. INTERNET and whiskey to name a few... Can I cry cultural appropriation when someone of non Euro decent uses any of that or does it just apply to white kids wearing Moana costumes etc

My Favorite Hollywood Cultural Appropriation Scene...




...non Scots performing as them with fake accents

Perhaps a few historical inaccuracies evident as well. (?)

I could get there in two hours, beautiful place and world class fishing if you know where to go, it's salt water and gigantic skate are to be had...

 

[Joe]

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent

Maybe because since people deny the term native to American Injins whose history stretches back some 15K years and because, at least according to many, the modern Euros only goes back about 7K, there having been people who they displaced. At least that's one version of history. Then again, I wasn't there any more than you were.

And yet it was not as peaceful a life as it's made out to be.

The Natives of the Americas fought, killed & enslaved each other.

The Oldest skeleton ever found in the USA revealed that he had a spear through his hip.

He might've been murdered or died from an injury sustained in battle.

Maybe bled to death?

 

[Holliday Unchained]

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent

Maybe because since people deny the term native to American Injins whose history stretches back some 15K years and because, at least according to many, the modern Euros only goes back about 7K, there having been people who they displaced. At least that's one version of history. Then again, I wasn't there any more than you were.

And yet it was as peaceful a life as it's made out to be.

The Natives of the Americas fought, killed & enslaved each other.

The Oldest skeleton ever found in the USA revealed that he had a spear through his hip.

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He might've been murdered or died from an injury sustained in battle.

Maybe bled to death?

. I'm aware of that, Joe,
. and also most assuredly anything of value anyone else here is
and much much more.
. Keep digging like an authentic archeologist
you may unearth something really interesting one day.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

Anyhoo it's Saturday night, I'm gonna stick to watching horse videos and chilling...

One thing my ex hasn't succeeded in plucking from me...

 

[LotusBud]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

Actually you have an interesting point.

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent.

But this is never pointed out.

Europe isn't a melting point like North America.

Hence, it tends to be more culturally rigid and hostile to outsiders who try to tamper with or re-arrange the existing social/cultural order.

It's all down to Europeans though, created everything worthy of note... Take my country of only 5million, TV, PHONE,PENICILLIN use, FOOTBALL, GOLF, KILTS. INTERNET and whiskey to name a few... Can I cry cultural appropriation when someone of non Euro decent uses any of that or does it just apply to white kids wearing Moana costumes etc

My Favorite Hollywood Cultural Appropriation Scene...




...non Scots performing as them with fake accents

Perhaps a few historical inaccuracies evident as well. (?)

I could get there in two hours, beautiful place and world class fishing if you know where to go, it's salt water and gigantic skate are to be had...

I've been there. It's really absolutely fucking gorgeous up there.

 

[LotusBud]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

Actually you have an interesting point.

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent.

But this is never pointed out.

Europe isn't a melting point like North America.

Hence, it tends to be more culturally rigid and hostile to outsiders who try to tamper with or re-arrange the existing social/cultural order.

Northern Europe, maybe. Portugal is very relaxed about multiculturalism, and we have a very low crime rate. Go figure.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

Actually you have an interesting point.

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent.

But this is never pointed out.

Europe isn't a melting point like North America.

Hence, it tends to be more culturally rigid and hostile to outsiders who try to tamper with or re-arrange the existing social/cultural order.

It's all down to Europeans though, created everything worthy of note... Take my country of only 5million, TV, PHONE,PENICILLIN use, FOOTBALL, GOLF, KILTS. INTERNET and whiskey to name a few... Can I cry cultural appropriation when someone of non Euro decent uses any of that or does it just apply to white kids wearing Moana costumes etc

My Favorite Hollywood Cultural Appropriation Scene...




...non Scots performing as them with fake accents

Perhaps a few historical inaccuracies evident as well. (?)

I could get there in two hours, beautiful place and world class fishing if you know where to go, it's salt water and gigantic skate are to be had...

I've been there. It's really absolutely fucking gorgeous up there.

Yeah It has an atmosphere that goes deep... It's good for the soul...

 

[Holliday Unchained]

So where the fuck did we come from

I think it's obvious that modern Euros sprang out of the ground upon which they stand, full formed,
and without previous history.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

One of my fave roads

 

[LotusBud]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

Actually you have an interesting point.

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent.

But this is never pointed out.

Europe isn't a melting point like North America.

Hence, it tends to be more culturally rigid and hostile to outsiders who try to tamper with or re-arrange the existing social/cultural order.

It's all down to Europeans though, created everything worthy of note... Take my country of only 5million, TV, PHONE,PENICILLIN use, FOOTBALL, GOLF, KILTS. INTERNET and whiskey to name a few... Can I cry cultural appropriation when someone of non Euro decent uses any of that or does it just apply to white kids wearing Moana costumes etc

My Favorite Hollywood Cultural Appropriation Scene...




...non Scots performing as them with fake accents

Perhaps a few historical inaccuracies evident as well. (?)

I could get there in two hours, beautiful place and world class fishing if you know where to go, it's salt water and gigantic skate are to be had...

I've been there. It's really absolutely fucking gorgeous up there.

Yeah It has an atmosphere that goes deep... It's good for the soul...

It really is incredibly stunning. I was only there once, and always swore I'd go back. We drove from Edinburgh up to Drumnadrochit and over to Isle of Skye. When Covid backs off, maybe I'll make it again.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

It's become one of those taboo things in the States I guess.

Sort of like how you Canucks abuse the native people.
Now there's a campaign for you to get on the bandwagon of, Joseph.

There's no native people in North America, anyway you don't argur for the native in Europe do you hollighey...

Don't I, SHAMWOW! ?
Maybe you can ask any of my long time board associates how wrong you are....again.

So I'm meant to know every post you've ever made anywhere on the internet? I only know what I see and no, never ever have I seen you do that... The first nations peoples who you wrongly describe as indigenous built nothing and were savages, I think a lot of them and agree they deserve everything they already have... So what about the Europeans having the same luxury in THIER homelands, what's your feelings?

Actually you have an interesting point.

Europeans are the indigenous peoples of their own continent.

But this is never pointed out.

Europe isn't a melting point like North America.

Hence, it tends to be more culturally rigid and hostile to outsiders who try to tamper with or re-arrange the existing social/cultural order.

It's all down to Europeans though, created everything worthy of note... Take my country of only 5million, TV, PHONE,PENICILLIN use, FOOTBALL, GOLF, KILTS. INTERNET and whiskey to name a few... Can I cry cultural appropriation when someone of non Euro decent uses any of that or does it just apply to white kids wearing Moana costumes etc

My Favorite Hollywood Cultural Appropriation Scene...




...non Scots performing as them with fake accents

Perhaps a few historical inaccuracies evident as well. (?)

I could get there in two hours, beautiful place and world class fishing if you know where to go, it's salt water and gigantic skate are to be had...

I've been there. It's really absolutely fucking gorgeous up there.

Yeah It has an atmosphere that goes deep... It's good for the soul...

It really is incredibly stunning. I was only there once, and always swore I'd go back. We drove from Edinburgh up to Drumnadrochit and over to Isle of Skye. When Covid backs off, maybe I'll make it again.

If you're planning it, I could point you to a few little places that tourists always miss, the best wee stopping points...

 

[Joe]

I'd like to go see Hadrian's Wall

I'm surprised that it actually still exists.

 

[Holliday Unchained]

I'd like to go see Hadrian's Wall

I'm surprised that it actually still exists.

Is that the one that runs all the way to Turkey, or is that the China wall?
Just kidding,
but you know who knows all about that Roman stuff? Deportz. He's quit scholarly in that field.
You should talk to him about it.

 

[Joe]

....back on topic.

Here's one about if the Confederacy Won the Civil War:




...Blazor's Dream cometh true...on YouTube!

 

[Joe]

Captain Confederacy .....

....vs. Captain America

...who would win?

 

[Holliday Unchained]

Captain Confederacy .....

....vs. Captain America

...who would win?

We already know who won, Joseph.
That's what accounts for all the swamp tears south of the Mason Dixon.

 

[Joe]

I've often found Confederate era antiques to be intriguing due to their scarcity & highly elusive collectibility.

There simply isn't much of it around. Not much was made/produced, a good deal must have gotten destroyed during the War or upheaval.

This CSA era uniform went for a cool $85,000 USD:

 

[Joe]

A Colorful South Carolina Dummer's Boy Outfit:

...must be expensive. def Museum Quality. Maybe Succubus would want one for her Kids. ;-)

 

[Joe]

Anyways...the CSA is jes history now.

Instead of getting worked up about it,
People should git over it and see it as some historical context

I was thinkin this thread should be about the Good & the Bad aspects about it.

Teh Confederacy gets so much flack about its slave holding past, and yet these civilizations we call 'Great' had significantly more of it goin' on and likely a lot more depraved than the Confederacy.

ie - Ancient Egypt, Rome and Ancient Greece just some examples.

For better wor worse, this thread should be about what it was like to live back then.

That is probably true about ancient civilizations, but the fallout from savery, including Jim Crow and other kinds of systemic racism, seriously affected people who are still alive now and have directly shaped the society we live in now.

See...I didn't grow up in the States so I didn't see that so much when I was there.

I was there more as a tourist/temporary worker so I wasn't really affected by the negative influences that much.
People were mostly friendly to me. So maybe that's why I just see Confederate symbols as historical artifacts for amusement. Same as an antique or comic book. I just see Confederate Uniforms as costumes not instruments of violence.
They have no symbolic basis of oppression nor ideological affiliation for me because it doesn't have the same connotation.

But I did notice some tension between Blacks and Whites. There seemed to be this invisible Color Bar for all races.
A lot more violence, knives and guns for sure.
And I met so many men who'd been to prison.
It was so common to meet ex-cons that you basically accepted it as a part of daily existence living there.

USA is def a much higher pressure society than Canada. Seems more stressful.
Didn't think the quality of the food was as good there. I got ulcers while living in the States.

But maybe that was more due to stress than illness.
I visited Mexico once, so maybe I got sick there.

Not sure.