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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

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whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally
 
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So I ask again, can we cite a policy Gavin Newsom implemented which didn't end up killing 67,100 Californians and vaporizing billions in small business revenue?


anything at all?

You didn't ask that the first time. There is no "again". You are moving the goals posts now that you lost on Covid.

Obtuse troll is going to be obtuse.
 
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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally

That's super funny, because you're being mauled.
 

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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Yeah I remember the Hispanics Latinos really liked Reagan. And after he left the GOP went in an anti immigration rampage and California has gone Democrat ever since.

No, that wasn't Reagan. That was Pete Wilson. He effectively handed California over to the Democrats by attacking Mexicans. He didn't see the handwriting on the wall. Latinos are 40% of the entire state.

I know. Thats what I'm saying.

Reagan, a former New Deal Democrat knew the importance of coalitions.

And Hispanics being pro life Catholics should have been a natural ally for the Republican Party.

Actually the GOP had a lock on the Hispanic vote but threw it all away when their prejudices got the better of them.

What prejudice? The ones the Democrats just accuse others of so they can get votes by smearing opposition? Or do you have a specific?

Every Hispanic person I know still supports Trump.


More Latinos voted for Joe Biden, that's a simple fact.

no one hates Donnie Dump as much as the California and Arizona Mexicans lol

Well yah no wonder.

He referred to them as rapists and murderers.

Hardly a winning message.

He referred to some of the illegal as rapists and murderers....and he is RIGHT.

He didnt refer to Mexicans as a whole as that. And this has BEEN shown over and over but keeps getting repeated. Because leftists are blatant liars.
 

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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally

That's super funny, because you're being mauled.
Mauled? By someone who cannot think of a single positive policy her governor has implemented and thinks humans can just transport across countries instantaneously :LOL3: :Crazy:
 
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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Yeah I remember the Hispanics Latinos really liked Reagan. And after he left the GOP went in an anti immigration rampage and California has gone Democrat ever since.

No, that wasn't Reagan. That was Pete Wilson. He effectively handed California over to the Democrats by attacking Mexicans. He didn't see the handwriting on the wall. Latinos are 40% of the entire state.

I know. Thats what I'm saying.

Reagan, a former New Deal Democrat knew the importance of coalitions.

And Hispanics being pro life Catholics should have been a natural ally for the Republican Party.

Actually the GOP had a lock on the Hispanic vote but threw it all away when their prejudices got the better of them.

What prejudice? The ones the Democrats just accuse others of so they can get votes by smearing opposition? Or do you have a specific?

Every Hispanic person I know still supports Trump.


More Latinos voted for Joe Biden, that's a simple fact.

no one hates Donnie Dump as much as the California and Arizona Mexicans lol

Well yah no wonder.

He referred to them as rapists and murderers.

Hardly a winning message.

He referred to some of the illegal as rapists and murderers....and he is RIGHT.

He didnt refer to Mexicans as a whole as that. And this has BEEN shown over and over but keeps getting repeated. Because leftists are blatant liars.

And I assume "some" are decent or whatever words he used.

The first words were an insult to millions of Mexicans and other Latinos. Yeah, some are doing bad things. But there are some bad people in all ethnic groups, ding fucking dong.
 
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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally

That's super funny, because you're being mauled.
Mauled? By someone who cannot think of a single positive policy her governor has implemented and thinks humans can just transport across countries instantaneously :LOL3: :Crazy:


Yes, completely mauled.
 

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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally

That's super funny, because you're being mauled.
Mauled? By someone who cannot think of a single positive policy her governor has implemented and thinks humans can just transport across countries instantaneously :LOL3: :Crazy:

These are people whose egos are so huge they will destroy the whole country so they can feel "smarter" than people who know their policies are shit.

The ONLY thing they care about is feeling superior and establishing superiority. That's it. Smh.
 

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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally

That's super funny, because you're being mauled.
Mauled? By someone who cannot think of a single positive policy her governor has implemented and thinks humans can just transport across countries instantaneously :LOL3: :Crazy:


Yes, completely mauled.
Yes, like Gavin Newsom is having a totally positive impact by murdering 67,100 Americans, destroying small business and making crime legal

considering the source on this one :LOL3:
 
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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally

That's super funny, because you're being mauled.
Mauled? By someone who cannot think of a single positive policy her governor has implemented and thinks humans can just transport across countries instantaneously :LOL3: :Crazy:


Yes, completely mauled.
Yes, like Gavin Newsom is having a totally positive impact by murdering 67,100 Americans, destroying small business and making crime legal

considering the source on this one :LOL3:


Gayest argument I've seen today.
 

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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally

That's super funny, because you're being mauled.
Mauled? By someone who cannot think of a single positive policy her governor has implemented and thinks humans can just transport across countries instantaneously :LOL3: :Crazy:

These are people whose egos are so huge they will destroy the whole country so they can feel "smarter" than people who know their policies are shit.
Did you see where Oak claimed we should simply vaporize all jobs held by illegals and the very next day they will transport right back to Mexico like nothing happened?

that was hysterical
 

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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Yeah I remember the Hispanics Latinos really liked Reagan. And after he left the GOP went in an anti immigration rampage and California has gone Democrat ever since.

No, that wasn't Reagan. That was Pete Wilson. He effectively handed California over to the Democrats by attacking Mexicans. He didn't see the handwriting on the wall. Latinos are 40% of the entire state.

I know. Thats what I'm saying.

Reagan, a former New Deal Democrat knew the importance of coalitions.

And Hispanics being pro life Catholics should have been a natural ally for the Republican Party.

Actually the GOP had a lock on the Hispanic vote but threw it all away when their prejudices got the better of them.

What prejudice? The ones the Democrats just accuse others of so they can get votes by smearing opposition? Or do you have a specific?

Every Hispanic person I know still supports Trump.


More Latinos voted for Joe Biden, that's a simple fact.

no one hates Donnie Dump as much as the California and Arizona Mexicans lol

Well yah no wonder.

He referred to them as rapists and murderers.

Hardly a winning message.

He referred to some of the illegal as rapists and murderers....and he is RIGHT.

He didnt refer to Mexicans as a whole as that. And this has BEEN shown over and over but keeps getting repeated. Because leftists are blatant liars.

And I assume "some" are decent or whatever words he used.

The first words were an insult to millions of Mexicans and other Latinos. Yeah, some are doing bad things. But there are some bad people in all ethnic groups, ding fucking dong.

he did it intentionally to bring more hype to this BS

Rapists and murderers are trying to get into this country ohhhhh noes!!!! pfffft

They have no middle class in Mexico and they come here and do the jobs that none of us want.
 

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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally

That's super funny, because you're being mauled.
Mauled? By someone who cannot think of a single positive policy her governor has implemented and thinks humans can just transport across countries instantaneously :LOL3: :Crazy:


Yes, completely mauled.
Yes, like Gavin Newsom is having a totally positive impact by murdering 67,100 Americans, destroying small business and making crime legal

considering the source on this one :LOL3:


Gayest argument I've seen today.
Yeah, Gavin does look kinda Gay but that really isn't germane to the conversation and the fact that you cannot cite a single positive policy instituted by this guy
 

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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.
California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.
You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too


:LOL3:

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.
I am superior. that's just a fact dear

Don't take it personally

That's super funny, because you're being mauled.
Mauled? By someone who cannot think of a single positive policy her governor has implemented and thinks humans can just transport across countries instantaneously :LOL3: :Crazy:


Yes, completely mauled.
Yes, like Gavin Newsom is having a totally positive impact by murdering 67,100 Americans, destroying small business and making crime legal

considering the source on this one :LOL3:


Gayest argument I've seen today.

but it fits their crybaby loser rhetoric
 

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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

most of the negative outrage is based on the statewide shutdown… no one wanted LA to close… can you blame them?


No, I'm sick and tired of the lockdown too. I blame the unvaccinated though. Get your fucking jabs so we can all go back to normal. Are some people going to die? Yes, I suppose some will. But fewer will die from the jab than the virus.

That is just the truth.


Why do you blame the unvaccinated? The shot does not prevent transmission.
 
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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Yeah I remember the Hispanics Latinos really liked Reagan. And after he left the GOP went in an anti immigration rampage and California has gone Democrat ever since.

No, that wasn't Reagan. That was Pete Wilson. He effectively handed California over to the Democrats by attacking Mexicans. He didn't see the handwriting on the wall. Latinos are 40% of the entire state.

I know. Thats what I'm saying.

Reagan, a former New Deal Democrat knew the importance of coalitions.

And Hispanics being pro life Catholics should have been a natural ally for the Republican Party.

Actually the GOP had a lock on the Hispanic vote but threw it all away when their prejudices got the better of them.

What prejudice? The ones the Democrats just accuse others of so they can get votes by smearing opposition? Or do you have a specific?

Every Hispanic person I know still supports Trump.


More Latinos voted for Joe Biden, that's a simple fact.

no one hates Donnie Dump as much as the California and Arizona Mexicans lol

Well yah no wonder.

He referred to them as rapists and murderers.

Hardly a winning message.

He referred to some of the illegal as rapists and murderers....and he is RIGHT.

He didnt refer to Mexicans as a whole as that. And this has BEEN shown over and over but keeps getting repeated. Because leftists are blatant liars.

And I assume "some" are decent or whatever words he used.

The first words were an insult to millions of Mexicans and other Latinos. Yeah, some are doing bad things. But there are some bad people in all ethnic groups, ding fucking dong.

he did it intentionally to bring more hype to this BS

Rapists and murderers are trying to get into this country ohhhhh noes!!!! pfffft

They have no middle class in Mexico and they come here and do the jobs that none of us want.


Well, there is a growing middle class in Mexico because of all the jobs that went there. The people that come are the illiterate unskilled laborers. Wealthy and middle class Mexicans come to vacation, then they go back home.
 

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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

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whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

most of the negative outrage is based on the statewide shutdown… no one wanted LA to close… can you blame them?


No, I'm sick and tired of the lockdown too. I blame the unvaccinated though. Get your fucking jabs so we can all go back to normal. Are some people going to die? Yes, I suppose some will. But fewer will die from the jab than the virus.

That is just the truth.


Why do you blame the unvaccinated? The shot does not prevent transmission.

but it will prevent numerous variants from finding viable hosts

That side doesn’t want anyone telling them what to do, but they have no problem inflicting their BS ideologies on everyone else.
 

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Trumptards on suicide watch

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But if you are going to do it, make it big and splashy*
Like riding a nuke into SagFagcistern "splashy"?
 

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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Yeah I remember the Hispanics Latinos really liked Reagan. And after he left the GOP went in an anti immigration rampage and California has gone Democrat ever since.

No, that wasn't Reagan. That was Pete Wilson. He effectively handed California over to the Democrats by attacking Mexicans. He didn't see the handwriting on the wall. Latinos are 40% of the entire state.

I know. Thats what I'm saying.

Reagan, a former New Deal Democrat knew the importance of coalitions.

And Hispanics being pro life Catholics should have been a natural ally for the Republican Party.

Actually the GOP had a lock on the Hispanic vote but threw it all away when their prejudices got the better of them.

What prejudice? The ones the Democrats just accuse others of so they can get votes by smearing opposition? Or do you have a specific?

Every Hispanic person I know still supports Trump.


More Latinos voted for Joe Biden, that's a simple fact.

no one hates Donnie Dump as much as the California and Arizona Mexicans lol

Well yah no wonder.

He referred to them as rapists and murderers.

Hardly a winning message.

He referred to some of the illegal as rapists and murderers....and he is RIGHT.

He didnt refer to Mexicans as a whole as that. And this has BEEN shown over and over but keeps getting repeated. Because leftists are blatant liars.

And I assume "some" are decent or whatever words he used.

The first words were an insult to millions of Mexicans and other Latinos. Yeah, some are doing bad things. But there are some bad people in all ethnic groups, ding fucking dong.

he did it intentionally to bring more hype to this BS

Rapists and murderers are trying to get into this country ohhhhh noes!!!! pfffft

They have no middle class in Mexico and they come here and do the jobs that none of us want.


Well, there is a growing middle class in Mexico because of all the jobs that went there. The people that come are the illiterate unskilled laborers. Wealthy and middle class Mexicans come to vacation, then they go back home.

we are literally sending them warning labels so their products fit our liability guidelines and can be sold here *face palms*
 
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Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?


Covid-19
Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment :ThumbsUp1:

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

most of the negative outrage is based on the statewide shutdown… no one wanted LA to close… can you blame them?


No, I'm sick and tired of the lockdown too. I blame the unvaccinated though. Get your fucking jabs so we can all go back to normal. Are some people going to die? Yes, I suppose some will. But fewer will die from the jab than the virus.

That is just the truth.


Why do you blame the unvaccinated? The shot does not prevent transmission.


It REDUCES a lot of transmission. The number of people that need to be hospitalized is reduced as well. See, the reason there was a lockdown to begin with is so that people don't get VERY sick and need to be hospitalized. We don't have enough room to handle very sick people in hospitals.

If people get the shot, things can return to normal sooner rather than later.
 

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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.
Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.
Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.
Well, if that were the entirety, the GOP doesnt run things in Cali whatsoever now so democRATs should have been able to fix the problem long ago.

Illegal immigration policy falls under federal jurisdiction, not the states or territories. K street will not allow for the sanctioning of employers.
LMFAO! You disingenuine lying gutter slut. Is that why cali has all those sanctuary cities? Is that why you people screamed "RAYCIS" at the top of your lungs over immigration reform? PWN3D!
 
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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.
Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.
Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.
Well, if that were the entirety, the GOP doesnt run things in Cali whatsoever now so democRATs should have been able to fix the problem long ago.

Illegal immigration policy falls under federal jurisdiction, not the states or territories. K street will not allow for the sanctioning of employers.
LMFAO! You disingenuine lying gutter slut. Is that why cali has all those sanctuary cities? Is that why you people screamed "RAYCIS" at the top of your lungs over immigration reform? PWN3D!


For your meltdown:

shutterstock_487326058-1920w.jpg
 

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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.
Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.
Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.
Well, if that were the entirety, the GOP doesnt run things in Cali whatsoever now so democRATs should have been able to fix the problem long ago.

Illegal immigration policy falls under federal jurisdiction, not the states or territories. K street will not allow for the sanctioning of employers.
LMFAO! You disingenuine lying gutter slut. Is that why cali has all those sanctuary cities? Is that why you people screamed "RAYCIS" at the top of your lungs over immigration reform? PWN3D!


For your meltdown:

shutterstock_487326058-1920w.jpg

he is still recovering from getting dragged in that other thread… they sent in the rescue WHAH-ambulance lol
 
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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.
Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.
Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.
Well, if that were the entirety, the GOP doesnt run things in Cali whatsoever now so democRATs should have been able to fix the problem long ago.

Illegal immigration policy falls under federal jurisdiction, not the states or territories. K street will not allow for the sanctioning of employers.
LMFAO! You disingenuine lying gutter slut. Is that why cali has all those sanctuary cities? Is that why you people screamed "RAYCIS" at the top of your lungs over immigration reform? PWN3D!


For your meltdown:

shutterstock_487326058-1920w.jpg

he is still recovering from getting dragged in that other thread… they sent in the rescue WHAH-ambulance lol


They do get so upset.
 

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I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.
Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.
Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.
Well, if that were the entirety, the GOP doesnt run things in Cali whatsoever now so democRATs should have been able to fix the problem long ago.

Illegal immigration policy falls under federal jurisdiction, not the states or territories. K street will not allow for the sanctioning of employers.
LMFAO! You disingenuine lying gutter slut. Is that why cali has all those sanctuary cities? Is that why you people screamed "RAYCIS" at the top of your lungs over immigration reform? PWN3D!


For your meltdown:

shutterstock_487326058-1920w.jpg

he is still recovering from getting dragged in that other thread… they sent in the rescue WHAH-ambulance lol


They do get so upset.
you mean like you get "irritated" ? lmao

Tell us moar about that
 

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