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Those women here supporting male fantasy won't be doing so much supporting if a female relative of theirs is molested in a toilet block... Or will they? If they are narcissists then it is possible they'll never see your / our point of view on the trans issue Dove.

And for the record I do NOT subscribe to so called genuine gender disforia. It is what the mental health nurse said in my opening post, a fantasy..... and in some people it's fausse or faux.

When I get on my PC .... I'll have other things to say. Stay tuned.

I tend to think of actual gender dysphoria. ....the actual trans people who suffer intense distress due to this dysphoria....in the same sort of disordered thinking as anorexics.

Anorexics have body dysphoria as well. So dysphoric disorders are a real thing. These people DESERVE real treatment. Transitioning doesnt cure their dysphoria and actual trans people have said they still battle dysphoria even after transing.

It not only harms women and girls and children. This queer theory ideology harms actual dysphoric people by trying to normalize their dysphoria. It's like trying to normalize severe anxiety or eating disorders.

The cult doesnt give a shit though because every single person who is touched by the trans cult who commits suicide is a tool for emotional blackmail now.

When they talk about the violence against trans people? NONE of it occurs in America. It's always another country like brazil and its eithet trans on trans violence OR it's because they are into prostitution and their trans status had nothing to do with it. It was violence that happens to prostitutes in general.

But they weild that and suicides like a weapon to force their religious beliefs on society through legislation that strips women and girls of protections and rights.

It's so fucked. So very fucked. And now women have to fight.....once again...against hateful males who want us dead for standing up to them.

They actively fight against any treatment options outside of affirmation...even when the one suffering wants that. So we cant have any REAL progress. They just want to rip down reality and force us all to live like this.
 
My son was anorexic Dove. He was 6' and 20 kg (44lbs) underweight. You can't cure them. They die eventually. It is very rare someone breaks out of it and cures themself..

I agree about the suicide being an emotional blackmail tool.

We have to fight authorities. They are the ones who allow trans into womens sports, ablutions, beauty pageants and whatever.

People keep asking what makes you a woman. I can't understand why people can't answer that. It is very simple... a person born with a pair of ovary and 500 eggs. That is a woman.

I am not on my PC yet... I might go to it now... I have got too much to do.
 
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OK I am on my PC now with my proper keyboard as I hope I can do justice to my story. I had 2 stories but unfortunately, I took so long to get here I forgot the 2nd story.

In 1950s when my mother-in-law was doing her nursing training she was told to go wash a little old woman in the ward. So off she went to attend this very old lady and when she got the genital area there was a penis and testicles. It absolutely shocked my MIL because no one warned her that the little old lady was really a man.

She always talked about it. It obviously traumatized Edith... I know nothing more than what I have written...

I can't remember what else I was going to write.

About the sex education. I think they should get it. I also think the parents should instill their moral values.

I was told NOTHING about sex... Nothing. When I first bleed, mum showed me a pad and told me to wear it and in those days they never had sticky backs And that was it!~.... eventually I used tampons. But I used to suffer. I never told anyone I was in pain and never thought to take pain killers... I used sit in a freezing art class suffering pain, modeling clay (which I hated) and nothing about 2nd year high school was great.

I think if I had a proper education about sex when I was say 12, a lot of pain could have been prevented.

So really it comes down to what is age appropriate when teaching kids about sex. When is the right time to talk about an uncomfortable subject between adults and children?
 
My son was anorexic Dove. He was 6' and 20 kg (44lbs) underweight. You can't cure them. They die eventually. It is very rare someone breaks out of it and cures themself..

I agree about the suicide being an emotional blackmail tool.

We have to fight authorities. They are the ones who allow trans into womens sports, ablutions, beauty pageants and whatever.

People keep asking what makes you a woman. I can't understand why people can't answer that. It is very simple... a person born with a pair of ovary and 500 eggs. That is a woman.

I am not on my PC yet... I might go to it now... I have got too much to do.

Well no things like that cannot be "cured", they get managed with therapy and ongoing therapy. I've known some anorexics who have done very well with therapy. One of them was so bad in high school she ended up hospitalized with a feeding tube. She did inpatient mental health for 6 months. Ever since (with ongoing therapy) shes done very well. Is married with 3 children.

So it's not hopeless and the longer we do this "affirm" bullshit where the only thing anyone can do or offer is sex change and affirming and altering the fucking fabric of reality we all live in and removing the rights and protections of women and girls to accommodate this....the father away we are from actually helping people in distress

We are seeing SO much more harm done on so many levels.
 
They can't even be managed. My son used to go to the nut house at 60 kgs (he should have been 80 kgm) he dropped down to 55 kilos. He would drop 5 kilos in hospital.

They do FUCK ALL in "management," Dovey. I met ONE lady online back 19 years ago called Timekeeper..

She cured her daughter of anorexia by extreme tough love. She kicked her out on the street and told her unless she started eating she was divorcing her as a daughter, she would no longer be her mother... and that worked in her case.

I think if they put a camp in the wilderness (like our deserts) and stuck the little brats there, they'd be cured soon enough. Away from what civilization has become. It's too late for my son but it might work for others...

See, back in the old days if you told someone you were suicidal you would be given an rope and told to, "go off and hang yourself then".. there would be no nandy pandy stuff. You would get a boot up the arse and told to piss off.
 
OK I am on my PC now with my proper keyboard as I hope I can do justice to my story. I had 2 stories but unfortunately, I took so long to get here I forgot the 2nd story.

In 1950s when my mother-in-law was doing her nursing training she was told to go wash a little old woman in the ward. So off she went to attend this very old lady and when she got the genital area there was a penis and testicles. It absolutely shocked my MIL because no one warned her that the little old lady was really a man.

She always talked about it. It obviously traumatized Edith... I know nothing more than what I have written...

I can't remember what else I was going to write.

About the sex education. I think they should get it. I also think the parents should instill their moral values.

I was told NOTHING about sex... Nothing. When I first bleed, mum showed me a pad and told me to wear it and in those days they never had sticky backs And that was it!~.... eventually I used tampons. But I used to suffer. I never told anyone I was in pain and never thought to take pain killers... I used sit in a freezing art class suffering pain, modeling clay (which I hated) and nothing about 2nd year high school was great.

I think if I had a proper education about sex when I was say 12, a lot of pain could have been prevented.

So really it comes down to what is age appropriate when teaching kids about sex. When is the right time to talk about an uncomfortable subject between adults and children?

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Here we do a few days in the 5th grade where they separate boys and girls and teach about puberty, safe sex and some STIs.

I would like to see an ongoing health class that teaches kids about the body and health that eventually covers sexual health as they get older. Just evidence based facts.

Not this graphic sexuality and identity shit that is repulsive and humiliating for little ones.

I get that there are people who were not taught about sex. And that sucks. BUT, right now that cannot be the states job while they are busy forcing politcs into the classroom and introducing children to material like queer theory long before they can think critically. Teaching children its okay to hide things from parents is another huge problem. That's putting kids in harms way.

I agree there should be an ongoing health class that teaches kids about the body and health. Right now that's out of the question. Not while school districts are pandering to a politcal cult.

The ONLY agenda should be the basic education of kids. Not politcal ideologies and beliefs about gender that are offensive and harmful.

We need to change the schools and get activists out. Get back to educating. And get a health curriculum that covers sexual health that is evidence based and even taught by a nurse. No partisan bullshit or agendas. People have lost SO MUCH trust in the schools with very good reason and it doesnt look like the well being of families matters to many districts.

I educated my own daughters on sex and I keep an open line of communication with them. They are more educated than many of their peers and value their bodies. They dont jump around to different boyfriends (or girlfriends) and they take care of themselves. My 17 year old just isnt ready and broke up with her boyfriend of nearly two years because he was starting to become impatient. And shes getting over it and said shes very glad she DIDNT do it. They are also willfully modest. They dress nicely and comfortably and they arent showing off their bodies.....that's not even something I made a point to teach them. It just fell into the "dont worry about what other people think, do what you feel comfortable doing" and they just dont cave into that socail pressure to wear clothes that show their bodies off. They never saw me doing that either.

I do draw the line on bikinis for little girls. I mean WTF? Some of those bikinis for little girls Squishes age are disgusting in how small they are. So I never bought them bikinis, they never asked for them either. 16 is when my oldest got one (and it was tasteful and cute) and my 17 year old has a tankini she wears a cover over.

They dont hate or feel uncomfortable in their bodies ....much the opposite. They just dont feel comfortable with super tight or revealing clothes.

They know what sex is, they know all the facts, we openly discuss it, and as a result they make good decisions and have self respect.

The schools today are a terrible place for young girls to "learn" about sex. Some districts are pushing "pleasure based sex ed".....there are sexually vulgar books in school libraries...including elementary. And when I say "vulgar", Cascur you would VOMIT.

I mean look at this.....this is from a book called "Gender Queer". Its like a graphic novel about a girl who is a trans boy. It goes into descriptions of her putting rolled socks in her pants and masturbating by rubbing the sock against herself and imagining getting a blow job. While driving a car. Just look here is a page

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So tell me where girls get together and ask about tasting their "vagina slime"? Who has done that? And then discussed it? This is NOT what girls talk about. This is a MALE FANTASY about what girls talk about.

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Grooming kids with the gender queer ideology

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Yeah perfectly normal and fine for a young girl to hate her female body because she wants to be a boy. Asides from the perverted sexual garbage....the messaging in this book is intensely toxic. Encouraging self hatred and desire to be someone else. Which young girls already struggle with due to puberty and body changes.

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"If parents get mad at these materials, its because trans and "non binary" people EXIST". Yeah because that's what people are upset over, right? We are mad that trans and "non binary" people EXIST. We just dont want them to EXIST.

It's not because they are a forceful and toxic cult that's confusing youth and promoting them going on puberty blockers like Lupron that will render them sterile. That will cause them to lose months or years of puberty....a VERY critical growth period that everyone NEEDS to go through. It's not that they LIE about the puberty blockers and say it "pauses" puberty. It doesnt pause puberty. Every kid has a window on time for critical growth and development. This is bone, brain, organ development and growth. You cannot "pause" that. If the kids loses a year of a puberty its GONE. It's not just the sex organs that develop and grow...its everything.

They become life long medic patients.

Jazz Jennings was put on these meds. Told all his life he is a girl. Went through all this on camera for a reality show. This BOY was confused and exploited and his body is destroyed. Because of puberty blockers....his penis never grew. It was a child penis. So when he turned 16 the disgusting adults got him a penis inversion. And because it didnt grow and develope .....there wasnt enough penis and he suffered several complications. He will never have children and he will never have an orgasm. He lost sexual function. This poor kid is a medical experiment.

In one show they took him to a "past life regression" hypnosis person so he could be hypnotized and recall his past life. To find out why he binge eats. While he was under whatever stupid woogie boogie hypnosis shit....in his "past life".....he said he was a gay boy and he was alone and his family didnt accept him as a gay boy. Which is probably EXACTLY what he is really going through. He was just a gay boy. Not a hetro GIRL.

This is one of the worst most dangerous layers to the trans cult because gay youth, boys and lesbians are being confused because they dont really fit in with gender stereotypes. And they are finding out they are same sex attracted. So they believe they are TRANS....that they were born in the wrong body.

And they are rushed right into gender clinics and put on hormones and given surgeries way too young. So many young lesbians getting mastectomies.

No one is fucking mad that trans people exist. Everyone KNOWS they exist. We have known that for a long time. The issue is now they are making WOMEN and GIRLS not exist. These people cannot just exist as transwomen. They need to erase the definition of woman to mean absolutely nothing. Now a woman is whatever a person says she is.

And this has impacted laws in place to protect us, domestic violence acts, our a sex based protections in public.....and we are back to the days before women had any public accommodations. Women used to hold their pee, avoid going out on their periods, not work because they didnt have their own private sex segregated spaces. Our shelters for women now accommodate mentally Ill MEN, predatory men....fetishists.

But these cultists constantly hammer this total and utter bullshit that essentially says if WE exist as women and it means "adult human female".....than transwomen CANT exist and of we dont hand over our language to describe ourselves and our civil rights we are mad that they exist and denying their exist and we want DEATH. All these mentally disturbed men are gonna go die and mass suicides will happen.

We are mad at the cult doctrine being used and the harmful impact this has on women and girls.

You know.....that teen girl who was anally raped in the school bathroom by a boy in a skirt is a fair sacrifice to these people because we really need to make sure men get validated. Even at the cost of our daughters and our dignity. Women are being TOLD we must accept this.

But you see how they gaslight and manipulate?

This book isnt even the worst. They have "This book is Gay". Go sample that one, Cas. It goes into how to give hand jobs and blow jobs and how to find people to fuck online and how dating sites work. All kinds of shit middle schoolers dont need to read or worry about. Its not evidence based health info. It's just pervert shit they dont need and arent even asking for. Before they can even consent to sex they are being exposed to shit like this.

They have a book called Push by an author Sapphire. It's a book geared towards adults and it has graphic descriptions of her recalling her sexual abuse at age 7 at the hands of her parents. How she had to give oral sex to her mother and what the smell was like and how she had orgasms while her father fucked her.

WHY is this shit in school libraries?!

Yeah the schools can shut down for I fucking care. They are unfit. They are not safe physically and mentally and theyve become state political indoctrination centers. On top of this, they want to spin history to demonize our founders and colonizers and brainwash kids to be full of racial hatred.

Let me know if you wanna see this. There are school board meetings, I have links to curriculums listed on the DOE sites and materials they are giving children that are political and sexual starting from grade 2. Its demented.
 
They can't even be managed. My son used to go to the nut house at 60 kgs (he should have been 80 kgm) he dropped down to 55 kilos. He would drop 5 kilos in hospital.

They do FUCK ALL in "management," Dovey. I met ONE lady online back 19 years ago called Timekeeper..

She cured her daughter of anorexia by extreme tough love. She kicked her out on the street and told her unless she started eating she was divorcing her as a daughter, she would no longer be her mother... and that worked in her case.

I think if they put a camp in the wilderness (like our deserts) and stuck the little brats there, they'd be cured soon enough. Away from what civilization has become. It's too late for my son but it might work for others...

See, back in the old days if you told someone you were suicidal you would be given an rope and told to, "go off and hang yourself then".. there would be no nandy pandy stuff. You would get a boot up the arse and told to piss off.

I understand not everyone recovers from these mental issues but there are people who do. I know them.

The point is adults in a free country should have options. No one should be forced to stay in a state of gender dysphoria is they dont want to. If adults want to transition, cool. They pay for it. If adults who are dysphoric want to try therapy to NOT transition and cope with the dysphoria....they should have that option.

And children and minors should NEVER be deemed "trans" or be transitioned on any level. Sure they can have their friends go alone but adults in their life should know better. It needs to be made illegal for minors to receive ANY medical transition anything.
 
I understand not everyone recovers from these mental issues but there are people who do. I know them.

The point is adults in a free country should have options. No one should be forced to stay in a state of gender dysphoria is they dont want to. If adults want to transition, cool. They pay for it. If adults who are dysphoric want to try therapy to NOT transition and cope with the dysphoria....they should have that option.

And children and minors should NEVER be deemed "trans" or be transitioned on any level. Sure they can have their friends go alone but adults in their life should know better. It needs to be made illegal for minors to receive ANY medical transition anything.

I only know one and now you have told me about another one.

One of our famous Olympic swimmers, Lisa Curry's 32 year old daughter died a couple of years back. They couldn't fix her.


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I can't read that, it's too blurry but I get the idea from your post.

That is like 18+ plus X rated. I wonder if they're teaching that at our schools... Now I'm going to ask my niece when I see her!~

Yep that shit is seeping into Australia's schools as well.
 
I only know one and now you have told me about another one.

One of our famous Olympic swimmers, Lisa Curry's 32 year old daughter died a couple of years back. They couldn't fix her.


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Sad. :(

Some recover .... some do not.

Anorexics have pro anna/anorexia fetish sites that people yell to be shut down because anorexia is so dangerous and unhealthy.

But they support giving minors sex change hormones and procedures and if that kid ends up regretting it and goes and speaks on it(so others wont make that mistake....its not at all reversible).....they really get bullied.

History is not going to look favorably upon this movement.
 
Ooo, just reposting... and found this juicy gossip about a Ukrainian refugee...

"Meanwhile though, some of those Ukrainian women refugees have been making themselves very unwelcome to the hosts who have taken them in. Their behaviour is surprising seeing as they should be counting themselves fortunate that there are kind people who are prepared to open their homes to them. The latest story is of the Ukrainian who accused her English host of slavery because she asked her to wash up her dishes and glasses. Then the woman asked her host to drive her to an appointment which the host could not do because she was busy working from home. The woman just stormed out and slammed the door on her - then accused her of slavery. The poor host who did nothing wrong, could have lost her job working in mental health. That's gratitude for you. They actually expected to be waited on hand and foot. "
 
Ooo, just reposting... and found this juicy gossip about a Ukrainian refugee...

"Meanwhile though, some of those Ukrainian women refugees have been making themselves very unwelcome to the hosts who have taken them in. Their behaviour is surprising seeing as they should be counting themselves fortunate that there are kind people who are prepared to open their homes to them. The latest story is of the Ukrainian who accused her English host of slavery because she asked her to wash up her dishes and glasses. Then the woman asked her host to drive her to an appointment which the host could not do because she was busy working from home. The woman just stormed out and slammed the door on her - then accused her of slavery. The poor host who did nothing wrong, could have lost her job working in mental health. That's gratitude for you. They actually expected to be waited on hand and foot. "

Sounds like my mother LOL
 
Sad. :(

Some recover .... some do not.

Anorexics have pro anna/anorexia fetish sites that people yell to be shut down because anorexia is so dangerous and unhealthy.

But they support giving minors sex change hormones and procedures and if that kid ends up regretting it and goes and speaks on it(so others wont make that mistake....its not at all reversible).....they really get bullied.

History is not going to look favorably upon this movement.


If a pack of wolves devoured the cult, I wouldn't shed a tear, that's for sure!~
 
In fact it would be the cause of much celebration.

Yes, I like that idea!~

I agree.

I never hated any of these people before and now that they are attacking our protections and rights and I see people ignoring the abuse and rape of women and girls, now I DO hate them.

I shouldnt have to be afraid my daughters will get attacked in female spaces or my lesbian daughter will be shamed and punished for not wanting anything to do with male genitals.
 
Hey guys! Cats dont exist! And I can prove it!

Do cats have 4 legs? Yeah? But there are some cats that DONT!

Do cats like tuna? SOME dont!

Boom. Cats arent real. If something doesnt perfectly fit into a fucking stereotype ....then it isnt real!

 
Hey guys! Cats dont exist! And I can prove it!

Do cats have 4 legs? Yeah? But there are some cats that DONT!

Do cats like tuna? SOME dont!

Boom. Cats arent real. If something doesnt perfectly fit into a fucking stereotype ....then it isnt real!



send this one to my desert camp where there are no mirrors.... And no pots of make-up.
 
Violence born out of manufactured fear and hatred is a real thing, The attack on the Pelosi's was not just some random act, nor was the firebombing of this donut shop




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Stay classy hate addicts, destroy a small businesses for hate.
 
The woman who supported state sanctioned riots.....who blamed the mother when BLM thugs shot and murdered her 8 year old little girl.....because she made a wrong fucking turn and according to Oak she "shouldnt have been there"(because when violent rioters occupy a block, they are entitled to murder innocent people)

Who called a terrorist attack on a parade and the murder of innocent kids "karma"......because again she thinks her "party" is entitled to violence...

Is accusing other people of "hate" simply because they oppose her political party and clearly argue against the shit that party supports.

Do you want to see hate, Oak? Because there are endless posts and tweets from trans rights activists and autogynophiles talking about how lesbians who wont fuck transwoman are transphobes and she be raped and murdered. How "terfs"(that's every single woman who is concerned for the safety of women and girls) should be punched. Shot. Beaten. Et.

The pure hatred of the trans movement makes incels look friendly.

You dont ever seem to see the white hot hatred spewing out of your own "team" here even as they fire bomb entire communities and put 70 year old men in the hospital with busted faces. Or when they run over an 18 year old kid and murder him because he was a "Republican extremist". Or punch children over politcs. Or when the scum racist president you elected stands up with a dark and red back ground like some sci fi dark lord with military behind him spewing an actual war time speech where he calls half the country extremists and tells Americans to hate their own neighbors. That the opposing party is a "clear and present danger".

Yeah you don't seem to see any of that hatred. And you are so full of hate yourself that you not only find all of that justifiable but you blame it on the targets because they have the audacity to advocate for themselves and families in a way that isnt yours.

All exactly correct. No, she will not learn one bit from the examples and facts you posted but I commend you for giving it the old college try.
 
Violence born out of manufactured fear and hatred is a real thing, The attack on the Pelosi's was not just some random act, nor was the firebombing of this donut shop




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You think the only reason people are mad at perverts being sexual in front of children is because Tucker condemned it?

So no one had a problem with this until Tucker did? Is that what you are saying?

No one cares anymore, Admin. You guys foam at the fucking mouth like rabid dogs at everyone who opposes you.

You can stay in your hateful and narrow minded little world. Its past talking, isn't it? Or do you think the death of civil discourse means people will just roll over on everything?

To this very day, my abusive ex husband tells people I'm the mean one because I didnt tolerate his abuse and cheating. That's you people. Crying and calling people "hate addicts" because they are not appeasing the insane and unreasonable demands you nazis demand.

Any reason why you care about this fire bombing but not the hundreds leftard mobs committed against completely innocent people who did nothing?
 
They dont live in reality.


They don't believe real stats but we can all be victims of news reports and given false reports too. I think we are all manipulated actually. Thank God I have been around a long time, long enough to unspin the cult. I remember lotus jumping in when I told people a few facts about homosexual predators.

what concerns me is you tend to over-react ( I'm no innocent either in that department ).

They wind you up.... Like I said before, just state what you believe.

Lily stated why she thinks it is no big deal but from what I can see she lacks foresight on the trans issue and those people in female spaces.

It isn't a major problem she thinks. On this issue she is wrong.

Men like Admin have no daughters to look out for so whatever he says in this thread is spam.

Ignore it.

lily should help the female cause on this issue but she would have to actually stand up to her male lefty e-friends . I think she would rather die than do that.
 
And yet, Peterson has steadily veered away from the center and adopted positions which appear to support the alt-Right.

He used to be much more moderate and common-sense, but since his nervous breakdown, he's gone a bit nutty and off to some Right Wing Fringe. ie - he appears to be sympathetic and supports Vladmir Putin who has murdered thousands of innocent people in the Ukraine War. The conflict has also led to the mass rape of Ukrainian women and girls. The War has also killed little children. Are you off your rocker, Jordan Peterson?

Sorry...I used to like the guy but not so much anymore.

He's not all there. Perhaps, he needs to see Dr. Gabor Mate, another Canadian.