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You claim to have won. Yet, here you are.

I hate no one - that is nothing but projection on your part.
You truly lost the argument when you attempted to defend Kamala's outrageous lies the other day. It saddens me to think that Kamala Harris is one of your Leftist Betters, who babble bullshit hills that you're willing to die on in internet debates, but there it is.

The hatred I speak of is the hatred that is inherent in the Leftist ideology you espouse and the political party you owe fidelity to. Both sow only division for crass political advantage. You, personally, might not hold the hate so near and dear to your heart as your Betters seem to, but that's where you've hitched your wagon. You are free to do so.
 

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You truly lost the argument when you attempted to defend Kamala's outrageous lies the other day. It saddens me to think that Kamala Harris is one of your Leftist Betters, who babble bullshit hills that you're willing to die on in internet debates, but there it is.

The hatred I speak of is the hatred that is inherent in the Leftist ideology you espouse and the political party you owe fidelity to. Both sow only division for crass political advantage. You, personally, might not hold the hate so near and dear to your heart as your Betters seem to, but that's where you've hitched your wagon. You are free to do so.

Dude, I'm not defending KH. I don't so much as like that woman.

I am pushing back this idea that knowing our whole history is a bad thing for our children.
 

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Dude, I'm not defending KH. I don't so much as like that woman.

I am pushing back this idea that knowing our whole history is a bad thing for our children.

And if you had taken the time to even skim the 241 pages of the curriculum, which is readily available online and no I'm giving you a link, you would have realized by now that you've been defending the empty, baseless rhetoric and lies of the Biden Administration, which you've been parroting and cheerleading like a clapping seal for the past few days.

And the whole of history is available to any inquisitive child without regard to what's listed in any curriculum. That's how I learned it and probably you too.
 

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And if you had taken the time to even skim the 241 pages of the curriculum, which is readily available online and no I'm giving you a link, you would have realized by now that you've been defending the empty, baseless rhetoric and lies of the Biden Administration, which you've been parroting and cheerleading like a clapping seal for the past few days.

And the whole of history is available to any inquisitive child without regard to what's listed in any curriculum. That's how I learned it and probably you too.

I've already determined that anyone that implies that being owned by another human being came with benefits is laughable.

You don't have to like it, too bad.
 

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What they did not do, is get on ships, cross oceans, to kidnap people and take them to another continent

You know they would have if they could have.

Paddling a canoe across the ocean is kinda impossible, though. They were just not technologically progressive enough...
 

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You know they would have if they could have.

Paddling a canoe across the ocean is kinda impossible, though. They were just not technologically progressive enough...

You make statements with no evidence, all the time. No, I don't know that would have. Many cultures/races didn't.

They didn't need ships to meet their needs for resources. Mesoamericans were great civilization(s) because they were a breadbasket, much like the Middle East was.

How about we deal with actualities and not speculation?

As for paddling "canoes", the Polynesians did it.
 
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I wonder how many Memorials to their former Ante-Bellum Masters Tom and his family have made since the war?
 

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You make statements with no evidence, all the time.

There are things that can be deduced.

Since the indian tribes in North America did not write things down, other than crude paintings, we are left to speculate to some degree.

We know some tribes conquered other tribes to increase their territory. It only makes sense that they would have spread it further across the ocean if they were able. Especially if they knew there were people across the ocean planning to do the same.

You objected to something I said earlier. You asked for evidence. I wanted to provide evidence through deduction, but you ignored my question.

When you give a whole bunch of people an excuse to fail, many will take you up on it.

This is what the CRT does to many black people. It gives them a free pass to fail, so they fail, without having to take any personal responsibility.
Please provide evidence for this allegation. The second part of your post.
Do you agree or disagree with this statement:

"When you give a whole bunch of people an excuse to fail, many will take you up on it."

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Yes, you wanted "evidence".

And yes, a Google search was not going to find direct evidence in the form of some study or some statement by someone you trust.

So I was going to have to formulate an argument.

And yes, when I formulate an argument, sometimes I need to take it step-by-step and get agreement, or disagreement, along the way so I know the exact point that is contentious.

I mean, if you just want to discuss things that can be discovered by a simple Google search, that is fine.

But some conversation requires knowledge of human behaviour, some "common sense" level of speculation, and even sometimes critical thinking.
 

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I was just pointing out a bit of hyperbole in Sowell's statement.


Seriously, channel your former life as an enslaved negro. Nothing else makes sense for your racial obsession.

You know, I have channeled a former life myself. I have vivid memories of riding in a heavy battle chariot with the Hittite cohorts at the Battle of Kadesh and driving my bronze spearhead into the back of the skull of a tiny little fleeing Egyptian pansy.

I remember it like it was yesterday.
 

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They all came from the North and worked their way south. If you're not aware, many North American tribes from the Southwest speak Uto-Aztecan languages, like many indigenous people in Mexico.

Do I deny warfare among Native American tribes? Nope. I don't anything that occurred among the indigenous tribes.

What they did not do, is get on ships, cross oceans, to kidnap people and take them to another continent to do what?
Avoid work.

Yeah and if some Native American Indians advanced faster to build ships & explore europe and settle there to avoid persecution of their fellow humans here like why the europeans left there to settle here then maybe we wouldn't be complaining about white people colonizing & conquering because it would be red privilege then.

No matter where people started, some will migrate other places. You seem to be hung up on the line about a benefit of slavery. From one state. Of where you probably don't even live. Maybe it will get taken out? Why all the fuss?

This is what I mean in my other thread about leftists losing their shit like every single little thing is the biggest deal in history. Some lady tweeted that it took 20 minutes into the movie Oppenheimer before a woman speaks. Jesus fuck who cares?

My word the only thing that will happen by worrying yourself over such mundane shit is having a heart attack.

I get that Biden needs ammo against DeSantis but how many times can you keep calling the other side racist? Apparently it's the bullshit gift that democrats keep on giving.

What did you get me this xmas? Ohh, I'm a racist again? Wow. So new. I don't think my old racist label wore off yet but thanks you idea lacking putz! Great debate!
 

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Yeah and if some Native American Indians advanced faster to build ships & explore europe and settle there to avoid persecution of their fellow humans here like why the europeans left there to settle here then maybe we wouldn't be complaining about white people colonizing & conquering because it would be red privilege then.

No matter where people started, some will migrate other places. You seem to be hung up on the line about a benefit of slavery. From one state. Of where you probably don't even live. Maybe it will get taken out? Why all the fuss?

This is what I mean in my other thread about leftists losing their shit like every single little thing is the biggest deal in history. Some lady tweeted that it took 20 minutes into the movie Oppenheimer before a woman speaks. Jesus fuck who cares?

My word the only thing that will happen by worrying yourself over such mundane shit is having a heart attack.

I get that Biden needs ammo against DeSantis but how many times can you keep calling the other side racist? Apparently it's the bullshit gift that democrats keep on giving.

What did you get me this xmas? Ohh, I'm a racist again? Wow. So new. I don't think my old racist label wore off yet but thanks you idea lacking putz! Great debate!

The reason I "lose my shit" is because history should accurate or why bother at all.
 

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I was just pointing out a bit of hyperbole in Sowell's statement.

Except it was not a quote from Thomas Sowell.

Do not even try to claim you knew it was some else's words when you read Murdock's post. If you did, you would have known it was a quote of Allen West, not Thomas Sowell.

Holy fuck.

Obviously she's playing you for the sap, you're not going to let her get away with that are you?

I think you might want to sit this one out, Mr. "They All Look The Same So I Thought It Was Sowell".

@Murdy has not posted in this thread since I pointed out her plagiarism.
 

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Except it was not a quote from Thomas Sowell.

Do not even try to claim you knew it was some else's words when you read Murdock's post. If you did, you would have known it was a quote of Allen West, not Thomas Sowell.

Holy fuck.



I think you might want to sit this one out, Mr. "They All Look The Same So I Thought It Was Sowell".

@Murdy has not posted in this thread since I pointed out her plagiarism.
Why are you splitting hairs over which one of them actually said it, it's a cherry picking comment.
 

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Holy SHit! @The Prowler has called out the overt racism of the Leftist filth that inhabit this forum!

Quick! Someone someone hand me another beer to wash the foul crapitude of Leftist corruption from my mouth.
 

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Holy SHit! @The Prowler has called out the overt racism of the Leftist filth that inhabit this forum!

Quick! Someone someone hand me another beer to wash the foul crapitude of Leftist corruption from my mouth.
Are you trying to best Biggie Littledick with your rabid illogic? You're doing a great job, pal!
 

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Except it was not a quote from Thomas Sowell.

Do not even try to claim you knew it was some else's words when you read Murdock's post. If you did, you would have known it was a quote of Allen West, not Thomas Sowell.

Holy fuck.



I think you might want to sit this one out, Mr. "They All Look The Same So I Thought It Was Sowell".

@Murdy has not posted in this thread since I pointed out her plagiarism.

Allen, Sowell, whomever, right?

If a black person is liberal then they are above reproach by white liberals. If a blacl person doesn't toe the line then whoaaaa, they are suddenly fucking uncle tom tokens, but in calling them that, the liberals never seem to see their own as racist? Fucking amazing lack of logic. This is why touch feely horseshit can never be the norm. It is blind to common sense.

I will tell you this. If I was black and a cop killed my kid, no fucking way would the likes of a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, et al, EVER speak at my kid's funeral because neither mother fucker ever cared to know my kid before so don't bother now. Fuck off. I myself can make up better shit in rememberance of my loved & lost than I ever want to hear uttered from your gobsmacked hyper charged pus hole. You fucks.

Just more losers chasing dollar signs. Liberals hate capitalism but fail to notice when their own are just hoarding money whiile pretending to care about our dead kids.

FUCK OFF.
 

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Allen, Sowell, whomever, right?

If a black person is liberal then they are above reproach by white liberals. If a blacl person doesn't toe the line then whoaaaa, they are suddenly fucking uncle tom tokens, but in calling them that, the liberals never seem to see their own as racist? Fucking amazing lack of logic. This is why touch feely horseshit can never be the norm. It is blind to common sense.

I will tell you this. If I was black and a cop killed my kid, no fucking way would the likes of a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, et al, EVER speak at my kid's funeral because neither mother fucker ever cared to know my kid before so don't bother now. Fuck off. I myself can make up better shit in rememberance of my loved & lost than I ever want to hear uttered from your gobsmacked hyper charged pus hole. You fucks.

Just more losers chasing dollar signs. Liberals hate capitalism but fail to notice when their own are just hoarding money whiile pretending to care about our dead kids.

FUCK OFF.

Some liberals may hate capitalism, but the vast majority don't. I do not. But I look at the facts. Prior to the "capitalist revolution" if you will, 90% of humans lived in abject poverty.

That has been decreased to 10% (these are global figures). I don't deny reality.

However, I do despise unregulated and unfettered capitalism.
 

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The reason I "lose my shit" is because history should accurate or why bother at all.
Yeah, blacks sold blacks in Africa and sold blacks to whites. Better? Or we not covering that? I can pick and choose too. It's called being nitpicky. It's not really a stupendous win.
 

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Yeah, blacks sold blacks in Africa and sold blacks to whites. Better? Or we not covering that? I can pick and choose too. It's called being nitpicky. It's not really a stupendous win.

Of course it's part of the historical record. Do you know that blacks in Africa have acknowledged their role in the slave trade? Do you know they don't pretend it didn't happen. They aren't saying that it wasn't so bad and that wow, how lucky are those that descended from slaves, yo?


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Of course it's part of the historical record. Do you know that blacks in Africa have acknowledged their role in the slave trade? Do you know they don't pretend it didn't happen. They aren't saying that it wasn't so bad and that wow, how lucky are those that descended from slaves, yo?


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"This is still a country divided between the families of the enslaved and the slave traders," said Olabiyi Babalola Joseph Yai, a professor of history and linguistics who taught for years at the University of Florida and worked for UNESCO in Paris before returning to his native Benin. "But the elite don't want to talk about what happened here."

The caste system in India divides people. Pretty much like the 1619 project. So while I don't think there was a benefit to slavery, if we do a 180 and go 1619 project and teach kids that our system is inherently racist, the only "fact" is that people will be divided.

On the one hand we should not ignore history because slavery existed, but on the other hand we should not say our system is racist and whites are inherently racist and blacks are inherently lessor in the strata of society because omfg the fucking personal liberties some asshole took with their opinions to make this shit up defies the fact that without our individual freedoms, they wouldn't have the individual freedom to MALE UP THIS SHIT.

It's like they took puzzle pieces from the edge and jammed them into the middle and said it doesn't work. Um, no. You fucked up. YUO don't work. You aren't woke or factual or a social justice warrior. You are an upstart, look at me whining for spotlight attention whore craving bitch while fucking up a country as much as you claim Trump does because making people hate each other is pretty much not fucking cool you twat dangle.
Lily, not you a twat dangle but the 1619 originator(s) is/are twatdangle(s).

For them to say the system is inherently racist would be like me saying we should teach kids that if europeans never settled America and formed the United States, then the Nazis would win and no Jew would exist today.

THAT'S NOT FACTS. THAT IS ONE OPINION FROM ONE PERSON.