All kidding aside, this Condo Collapse is a horrible tragedy.

[Levon]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

Any public statements of surprise from the mayor or the governor or even the president, about this catastrophe are just gaslighting, or maybe worse, indications of dumbfuckery.

You realize you don't have to drive pilons down to bed rock, right? The geologist or civil engineer can legally declare that firm competitent ground has been reached based upon the hammer blow count it takes to drive the pilon 1 mm. All the civils I have worked with want to be extra cautious doing that though so even though the law requires say five consecutive counts exceeding the engineer's specification we would usually demand 10 consecutive counts just to be extra sure. None of our projects have failed in the last 20 years so I guess we have done well.

I'd imagine, not being an engineer myself, that "firm competent ground" might stop being available once you reach the water table. What can you tell us about the water table in south Florida, or the entire Gulf Coast for that matter?

 

[Admin.]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

Any public statements of surprise from the mayor or the governor or even the president, about this catastrophe are just gaslighting, or maybe worse, indications of dumbfuckery.

You realize you don't have to drive pilons down to bed rock, right? The geologist or civil engineer can legally declare that firm competitent ground has been reached based upon the hammer blow count it takes to drive the pilon 1 mm. All the civils I have worked with want to be extra cautious doing that though so even though the law requires say five consecutive counts exceeding the engineer's specification we would usually demand 10 consecutive counts just to be extra sure. None of our projects have failed in the last 20 years so I guess we have done well.

I'd imagine, not being an engineer myself, that "firm competent ground" might stop being available once you reach the water table. What can you tell us about the water table in south Florida, or the entire Gulf Coast for that matter?

Having flown the length of FLA in a Helo more than once, I don't think there is a spot along the entire eastern coastline that is more then maybe 75' or so above sea level. fwiw

 

[The Countess]

Meh, better than none I guess.

I knew you’d jump on that one lol. I heard they’re angry cuz The Governor won’t allow the Israeli army to come help search for survivors.

 

[Dove]

That recently 'suicided' guy in the Spanish jail cell supposedly had an apartment in there which has of course been destroyed....

No idea if the allegation is true or not and I'm not in the mood to bother chasing up the posts on pol which made the claim, so take it as you will.

You talking about McAfee?



Yep.

 

[Dove]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

Any public statements of surprise from the mayor or the governor or even the president, about this catastrophe are just gaslighting, or maybe worse, indications of dumbfuckery.

You realize you don't have to drive pilons down to bed rock, right? The geologist or civil engineer can legally declare that firm competitent ground has been reached based upon the hammer blow count it takes to drive the pilon 1 mm. All the civils I have worked with want to be extra cautious doing that though so even though the law requires say five consecutive counts exceeding the engineer's specification we would usually demand 10 consecutive counts just to be extra sure. None of our projects have failed in the last 20 years so I guess we have done well.

I'd imagine, not being an engineer myself, that "firm competent ground" might stop being available once you reach the water table. What can you tell us about the water table in south Florida, or the entire Gulf Coast for that matter?

I spent 7 years of my life total on the Gulf Coast and I've always wondered.....why the fuck do people continually rebuild right on the coast?

I moved to Biloxi 6 months after Katrina. The damage all along the coast and into NOLA was breathtaking. NOLA 9th ward was trashed due to the levee.....but the rebuilding started on the GC immediately.

Like......go inland, ffs. They know it's a gamble.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Hopefully there was a Democrat convention taking place in there at the time.

It was Miami so I’m pretty sure it was filled with leftists

 

[Joe]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

Any public statements of surprise from the mayor or the governor or even the president, about this catastrophe are just gaslighting, or maybe worse, indications of dumbfuckery.

You realize you don't have to drive pilons down to bed rock, right? The geologist or civil engineer can legally declare that firm competitent ground has been reached based upon the hammer blow count it takes to drive the pilon 1 mm. All the civils I have worked with want to be extra cautious doing that though so even though the law requires say five consecutive counts exceeding the engineer's specification we would usually demand 10 consecutive counts just to be extra sure. None of our projects have failed in the last 20 years so I guess we have done well.

I'd imagine, not being an engineer myself, that "firm competent ground" might stop being available once you reach the water table. What can you tell us about the water table in south Florida, or the entire Gulf Coast for that matter?

I spent 7 years of my life total on the Gulf Coast and I've always wondered.....why the fuck do people continually rebuild right on the coast?

I moved to Biloxi 6 months after Katrina. The damage all along the coast and into NOLA was breathtaking. NOLA 9th ward was trashed due to the levee.....but the rebuilding started on the GC immediately.

Like......go inland, ffs. They know it's a gamble.

Money. Desire for profits. Greed obviously.

Same reason they build houses on the sides of hills in Southern California which get burnt down and others are rebuilt in their place.

 

[LotusBud]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

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[Dove]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

Any public statements of surprise from the mayor or the governor or even the president, about this catastrophe are just gaslighting, or maybe worse, indications of dumbfuckery.

You realize you don't have to drive pilons down to bed rock, right? The geologist or civil engineer can legally declare that firm competitent ground has been reached based upon the hammer blow count it takes to drive the pilon 1 mm. All the civils I have worked with want to be extra cautious doing that though so even though the law requires say five consecutive counts exceeding the engineer's specification we would usually demand 10 consecutive counts just to be extra sure. None of our projects have failed in the last 20 years so I guess we have done well.

I'd imagine, not being an engineer myself, that "firm competent ground" might stop being available once you reach the water table. What can you tell us about the water table in south Florida, or the entire Gulf Coast for that matter?

I spent 7 years of my life total on the Gulf Coast and I've always wondered.....why the fuck do people continually rebuild right on the coast?

I moved to Biloxi 6 months after Katrina. The damage all along the coast and into NOLA was breathtaking. NOLA 9th ward was trashed due to the levee.....but the rebuilding started on the GC immediately.

Like......go inland, ffs. They know it's a gamble.

Money. Desire for profits. Greed obviously.

Same reason they build houses on the sides of hills in Southern California which get burnt down and others are built in their place.

I know. It just kinda blows my mind.

 

[Frood]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

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Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

 

[Big Sexy]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

I will wait to hear more after an investigation but often stuff that holds up for 40 years was well done but that the geologic or water conditions changed over 40 years. I.E. one explanation could be ground water levels went up or down thus changing some of the facts assumed to exist when the Civil engineer made his calculations back in 1981. Another issue might have been salt water intrusion and how that salt water effected the chosen pilon design; I.E. did it start corrosion?

Then there are possible maintenance issue or defective materials used, etc... There are many possibilities. About the only thing we know for sure is as far back as the 1990's the building was tilting due to uneven subsidence.

Obviously it's because democrats dont run Florida. Come on, man.

You get political in every thread?

 

[Frood]

Come on man!

 

[Dove]

What a fucking retard. Trying to jack a thread with this stupid shit again under a different name lmaooo.

 

[Admin.]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

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Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

 

[Admin.]

my mind.

LOL, you just said "My mind"!

 

[Frood]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

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Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

 

[Admin.]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

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Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

 

[SHAMPAIN]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

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Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

 

[Admin.]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

Are you tickle torturing yourself?

 

[SHAMPAIN]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

Are you tickle torturing yourself?

2 million supposed deaths compared to 10 million cancer deaths... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

 

[Joe]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

Are you tickle torturing yourself?

2 million supposed deaths compared to 10 million cancer deaths... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

I got the vaccine a couple of days ago, Shampain.
Oddly, I feel worse than before I got it.
Actually, I respect the choices of those who decide not to vaccinate.
Vaccinations has its own downsides and carries its own set of risks.

I decided to take that risk thinking that the alternative oc catching COVID is worse than the discomfort of getting the vaccine.
Hope it works.

However, I notice while I don't feel sick, there are some lingering side effects from the vaccine.
And that was just after 1 dose.

So I hope they go away soon and aren't permanent fixutre

 

[Joe]

.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

Are you tickle torturing yourself?

2 million supposed deaths compared to 10 million cancer deaths... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

I got the vaccine a couple of days ago, Shampain.
Oddly, I feel worse than before I got it.
Actually, I respect the choices of those who decide not to vaccinate.
Vaccinations has its own downsides and carries its own set of risks.

I decided to take that risk thinking that the alternative oc catching COVID is worse than the discomfort of getting the vaccine.
Hope it works.

However, I notice while I don't feel sick, there are some lingering side effects from the vaccine.
And that was just after 1 dose.

So I hope they go away soon and aren't permanent fixutre

I really don't blame anybody who gets the vaccine, the amount of scare mongering that goes on it's up to the individual... I pretended to get mine on here but nobody took the bait, I thought about going but I'll wait and see how things go in the long run but most of my family are vaxxed... The thing that bothers me most is, well there's two things really, Firstly, there hasn't been the usual testing done on the safety of these shots compared to all others and secondly the companies that make them having been given legal protection so they cannot be sued if things go wrong... TWO MAJOR RED FLAGS FOR ME =(

 

[Admin.]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

Are you tickle torturing yourself?

2 million supposed deaths compared to 10 million cancer deaths... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

I got the vaccine a couple of days ago, Shampain.
Oddly, I feel worse than before I got it.
Actually, I respect the choices of those who decide not to vaccinate.
Vaccinations has its own downsides and carries its own set of risks.

I decided to take that risk thinking that the alternative oc catching COVID is worse than the discomfort of getting the vaccine.
Hope it works.

However, I notice while I don't feel sick, there are some lingering side effects from the vaccine.
And that was just after 1 dose.

So I hope they go away soon and aren't permanent fixutre

I really don't blame anybody who gets the vaccine, the amount of scare mongering that goes on it's up to the individual... I pretended to get mine on here but nobody took the bait, I thought about going but I'll wait and see how things go in the long run but most of my family are vaxxed... The thing that bothers me most is, well there's two things really, Firstly, there hasn't been the usual testing done on the safety of these shots compared to all others and secondly the companies that make them having been given legal protection so they cannot be sued if things go wrong... TWO MAJOR RED FLAGS FOR ME =(

Vaya con dios mi amiga.

 

[Frood]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

Are you tickle torturing yourself?

2 million supposed deaths compared to 10 million cancer deaths... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

I got the vaccine a couple of days ago, Shampain.
Oddly, I feel worse than before I got it.
Actually, I respect the choices of those who decide not to vaccinate.
Vaccinations has its own downsides and carries its own set of risks.

I decided to take that risk thinking that the alternative oc catching COVID is worse than the discomfort of getting the vaccine.
Hope it works.

However, I notice while I don't feel sick, there are some lingering side effects from the vaccine.
And that was just after 1 dose.

So I hope they go away soon and aren't permanent fixutre

I really don't blame anybody who gets the vaccine, the amount of scare mongering that goes on it's up to the individual... I pretended to get mine on here but nobody took the bait, I thought about going but I'll wait and see how things go in the long run but most of my family are vaxxed... The thing that bothers me most is, well there's two things really, Firstly, there hasn't been the usual testing done on the safety of these shots compared to all others and secondly the companies that make them having been given legal protection so they cannot be sued if things go wrong... TWO MAJOR RED FLAGS FOR ME =(

Vaya con dios mi amiga.

You might want to dig your grave and the graves for your fellow killshot'd family and friends while the ground is soft...

 

[Admin.]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

Are you tickle torturing yourself?

2 million supposed deaths compared to 10 million cancer deaths... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

I got the vaccine a couple of days ago, Shampain.
Oddly, I feel worse than before I got it.
Actually, I respect the choices of those who decide not to vaccinate.
Vaccinations has its own downsides and carries its own set of risks.

I decided to take that risk thinking that the alternative oc catching COVID is worse than the discomfort of getting the vaccine.
Hope it works.

However, I notice while I don't feel sick, there are some lingering side effects from the vaccine.
And that was just after 1 dose.

So I hope they go away soon and aren't permanent fixutre

I really don't blame anybody who gets the vaccine, the amount of scare mongering that goes on it's up to the individual... I pretended to get mine on here but nobody took the bait, I thought about going but I'll wait and see how things go in the long run but most of my family are vaxxed... The thing that bothers me most is, well there's two things really, Firstly, there hasn't been the usual testing done on the safety of these shots compared to all others and secondly the companies that make them having been given legal protection so they cannot be sued if things go wrong... TWO MAJOR RED FLAGS FOR ME =(

Vaya con dios mi amiga.

You might want to dig your grave and the graves for your fellow killshot'd family and friends while the ground is soft...

I literally live on the very rim of Conus, just hoping and praying that the Cascadia Subduction Zone releases this planet of human bondage, while i am still around to enjoy it. Tsunami take me away!

 

[Frood]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

according to an interview I heard on BBC this morning, this building has an identical twin one block over, same developer, same contractor, same plans same material, the residents are not comfortable.

I'd be outta there so fast, with a lawsuit filed soon after.

It will depend upon what the state laws say. In California builder liability is capped at 20 years and in some cases just 10 years. I don't know anything about the laws in Florida but it may be hard to prove liability 40 years later. Now, if someone bought after the subsidence issue was found in the 1990's but the seller didn't disclose that to the buyers that might be an issue.

Well, they're suing the condo association.

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Yet millions can't sue the Covid jab manufacturers...

wut

Indemnity...

Seems a rather petulant response to an international "PAN-DEMIC"

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

Are you tickle torturing yourself?

2 million supposed deaths compared to 10 million cancer deaths... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEADLY!

I got the vaccine a couple of days ago, Shampain.
Oddly, I feel worse than before I got it.
Actually, I respect the choices of those who decide not to vaccinate.
Vaccinations has its own downsides and carries its own set of risks.

I decided to take that risk thinking that the alternative oc catching COVID is worse than the discomfort of getting the vaccine.
Hope it works.

However, I notice while I don't feel sick, there are some lingering side effects from the vaccine.
And that was just after 1 dose.

So I hope they go away soon and aren't permanent fixutre

I really don't blame anybody who gets the vaccine, the amount of scare mongering that goes on it's up to the individual... I pretended to get mine on here but nobody took the bait, I thought about going but I'll wait and see how things go in the long run but most of my family are vaxxed... The thing that bothers me most is, well there's two things really, Firstly, there hasn't been the usual testing done on the safety of these shots compared to all others and secondly the companies that make them having been given legal protection so they cannot be sued if things go wrong... TWO MAJOR RED FLAGS FOR ME =(

Vaya con dios mi amiga.

You might want to dig your grave and the graves for your fellow killshot'd family and friends while the ground is soft...

I literally live on the very rim of Conus, just hoping and praying that the Cascadia Subduction Zone releases this planet of human bondage, while i am still around to enjoy it. Tsunami take me away!

You'll be dead from the jab in 12-24 months, or sooner. You'll have to get tsunami'd in your next reincarnation (as a Humpback whale shart)...

 

[Joe]

That recently 'suicided' guy in the Spanish jail cell supposedly had an apartment in there which has of course been destroyed....

No idea if the allegation is true or not and I'm not in the mood to bother chasing up the posts on pol which made the claim, so take it as you will.

You talking about McAfee?



Yep.

There's always Elites who control or want to control the population.

In any country. We have them in Canada too.

At times Democracy seems like such a sham.

Like in my city of Vancouver, the majority voted against a $10 billion subway plan because they thought it was a waste of taxpayer dollars, but the Elites decided to go ahead with it anyways. And they scrapped an alternate plan which would have cost 1/10th of that.

They have a mind of their own, do whatever the want.

Even if they go against the wishes of the people.

Like the man sez in the video, they're not accountable to anyone.

Power hungry greedy money whores.

 

[Oerdin]

All posturing by politicians aside, it's been well-known for decades that you can't load Florida soil with that kind of weight since there's no bedrock under it. And it's also been noted by some engineers and other interested parties that this building was in trouble, years ago.

I wonder how many other Florida buildings are in similar situation.

Must be a lot of them.

If they don't reinforce them all soon, there could be many more of these disasters coming.

I will wait to hear more after an investigation but often stuff that holds up for 40 years was well done but that the geologic or water conditions changed over 40 years. I.E. one explanation could be ground water levels went up or down thus changing some of the facts assumed to exist when the Civil engineer made his calculations back in 1981. Another issue might have been salt water intrusion and how that salt water effected the chosen pilon design; I.E. did it start corrosion?

Then there are possible maintenance issue or defective materials used, etc... There are many possibilities. About the only thing we know for sure is as far back as the 1990's the building was tilting due to uneven subsidence.

Obviously it's because democrats dont run Florida. Come on, man.

I think this story has less to do with which party runs a state than a widespread problem which will have ramifications for the building industry and standards in the United States.

However, Florida will feel the brunt of it that they've been too lax on building inspections and standards for too long.

To that note we have the information from a 2018 structural assessment.

""The failed waterproofing is causing major structural damage to the concrete structural slab below these areas," the report reads. "Failure to replace the waterproofing in the near future will cause the extent of the concrete deterioration to expand exponentially.""

That assessment done by a licensed engineering team identitied two main problems. 1) Water damage to the structural supports caused by a leaking swimming pool, old leaking water and sewer pipes with in the building, as well as water damage seeping into the concrete and steel subfloor from the outside balconies. 2) Subsidence which seems to be effecting the entire area though in an unequal and non uniform manner. That would hint at either a geologic or hydrologic origin to the subsidence issue which may or may not be compounded by engineering choices for structural foundations dating back to 1981.

So two big hints but no clear answers as yet.

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[Oerdin]

The biggest issue seems to be failed waterproofing for the structural slabs.