Does potentially viable life outside the womb really begin at 6 weeks?

[Joe]

If a fetus cannot realistically survive outside a mother's womb after six weeks of pregnancy, should this be defined as a 'human life'? Or 8 weeks? 12 weeks? Or even 16 weeks?

This is where I'm starting to question the validity of pro lifer/ anti abortionists assumptions.

Anyways just a thought

 

[The Prowler]

Some people here could not survive outside of their mother's basement at 35 years old.

Should they be defined as "human life"?

 

[Joe]

Some people here could not survive outside of their mother's basement at 35 years old.

Should they be defined as "human life"?

Given that youre an Incel, precisely what is your disability @The Prowler?

Since you're a gaslighting sociopath.

 

[Lily]

No, there is no viable life outside of the womb at 6 weeks.

 

[The Prowler]

I knew Senile @Joe would take the "living in his mother's basement at 35" comment personally.

Hahaha!!!!

 

[LotusBud]

If a fetus cannot realistically survive outside a mother's womb after six weeks of pregnancy, should this be defined as a 'human life'? Or 8 weeks? 12 weeks? Or even 16 weeks?

This is where I'm starting to question the validity of pro lifer/ anti abortionists assumptions.

Anyways just a thought

Of course it's not viable. This is where the whole question lies. Anti-choicers insist on calling fetuses "babies." But they are not babies. They are cells fully dependent on the mother.

 

[The Prowler]

The question asked:

should this be defined as a 'human life'?

The non-answers to the question asked:

No, there is no viable life outside of the womb at 6 weeks.

Of course it's not viable.

It says something when people are unable to face questions directly and honestly.

 

[Dove]

If a fetus cannot realistically survive outside a mother's womb after six weeks of pregnancy, should this be defined as a 'human life'? Or 8 weeks? 12 weeks? Or even 16 weeks?

This is where I'm starting to question the validity of pro lifer/ anti abortionists assumptions.

Anyways just a thought

It's a scientific fact that is it a living human. How is this even an argument in 2022?

You guys constantly conflate your philosophical concepts of "life" and personhood with biological scientific facts. I dont see how that's different from legislating your religious beliefs. Imposing your religious beliefs.

When conception occurs and a woman is pregnant, it HAS to be a human. That's what reproduction is. You cannot get pregnant and reproduce anything besides another human. And this human meets the scientific criteria for life. If it's not alive? That's called a miscarriage.

And if you truly supported choice, you would value the basic scientific facts and you would support those facts being made known to any woman seeking an abortion. And you would also want these clinics to be held to the same safety standards as any other medical facility. And you would also support the woman being made aware of and given ALL the resources and options available to her. That includes pro life out reaches.

You wouldn't want other people's philosophical beliefs forced down women's throats so they are making decisions NOT based on facts but your BELIEFS.

You can reject science all you want and rely on philosophy to ruminate "what even is life?" but the facts should be given and known and embraced. Otherwise all you are doing is manipulating and imposing ideas that are not rooted in reality.

 

[Dove]

If a fetus cannot realistically survive outside a mother's womb after six weeks of pregnancy, should this be defined as a 'human life'? Or 8 weeks? 12 weeks? Or even 16 weeks?

This is where I'm starting to question the validity of pro lifer/ anti abortionists assumptions.

Anyways just a thought

Of course it's not viable. This is where the whole question lies. Anti-choicers insist on calling fetuses "babies." But they are not babies. They are cells fully dependent on the mother.

You don't get to tell women that the human beings in the fetal stage of human development in utero are not their babies.

And "baby" isn't even a scientific term. And a "fetus" is a scientific term for a stage of development.....its not a thing separate from species.

 

[Blurt]

@Dove wrote: "You wouldn't want other people's philosophical beliefs forced down women's throats so they are making decisions NOT based on facts but your BELIEFS."

Here's a novel thought, Dovey: How about we let a woman make decisions based on her OWN beliefs, not yours?

Or is that too much freedom?

 

[Joe]

@Dove wrote: "You wouldn't want other people's philosophical beliefs forced down women's throats so they are making decisions NOT based on facts but your BELIEFS."

Here's a novel thought, Dovey: How about we let a woman make decisions based on her OWN beliefs, not yours?

Or is that too much freedom?

@Dove is an example of an American Right Wing Feminist @Blurt.

While there are certainly Left Wing feminists, there are Right wing ones too, apparently.

 

[Lily]

@Dove wrote: "You wouldn't want other people's philosophical beliefs forced down women's throats so they are making decisions NOT based on facts but your BELIEFS."

Here's a novel thought, Dovey: How about we let a woman make decisions based on her OWN beliefs, not yours?

Or is that too much freedom?

Yes, it's too much freedom for women to handle responsibly. Misogyny 101

 

[Lily]

@Dove wrote: "You wouldn't want other people's philosophical beliefs forced down women's throats so they are making decisions NOT based on facts but your BELIEFS."

Here's a novel thought, Dovey: How about we let a woman make decisions based on her OWN beliefs, not yours?

Or is that too much freedom?

@Dove is an example of an American Right Wing Feminist @Blurt.

While there are certainly Left Wing feminists, there are Right wing ones too, apparently.

A true feminist respects the decisions other women make; whether it be having an abortion because she chooses it, being a traditional stay at home mother, or running a corporation.

That's an actual feminist.

 

[Blurt]

That ^ being said, I don't believe "actual" things are much of a concern to Dovey.

What's in her autocratic head seems to matter more to her than reality.

 

[Lily]

That ^ being said, I don't believe "actual" things are much of a concern to Dovey.

What's in her autocratic head seems to matter more to her than reality.

She's the decider for all women. It's true.

 

[Joe]

...and yet not all feminists consider themselves liberal or Left wing @Lily.

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Sarah Palin would consider herself as a feminist and so would Lauren Boebert. Whether you agree with them or not they see themselves asserting their own brand of feminism within a Right Wing mindset.

There isn't a universal feminism anymore like 50 years ago. Just like the Catholic Church doesn't speak for all Christians anymore and split into many denominations

 

[The Prowler]

A woman saying that another woman should not murder an innocent person has nothing to do with feminism.

 

[DDT]

If a fetus cannot realistically survive outside a mother's womb after six weeks of pregnancy, should this be defined as a 'human life'? Or 8 weeks? 12 weeks? Or even 16 weeks?

This is where I'm starting to question the validity of pro lifer/ anti abortionists assumptions.

Anyways just a thought

Nobody knows, Joeski. Killing a pregnant mother brings two murder charges in some States, but the conditions vary for a double murder charge. Federally the US views any fetus as a being, and will charge you with killing two people, but I don't know... Nobody knows.

 

[Joe]

A woman saying that another woman should not murder an innocent person has nothing to do with feminism.

Eg - Sarah Palin promotes a 'conservative feminism' which is pro life/ anti abortion & pro gun.

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But she isn't left wing @The Prowler.

And while many Leftist women believe she isn't entitled to call herself a feminist, a somewhat liberal publication said that Palin should be able to.

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[Joe]

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[The Prowler]

Supporting or not supporting murder is a moral choice, not a political choice.

 

[Blurt]

Quiet, you wimminz!

There are manz speaking now.

 

[The Prowler]

Quiet, you wimminz!

There are manz speaking now.

SJWs: "Men can get pregnant!!"

You weirdos need to get your shit together.

 

[Lily]

A woman saying that another woman should not murder an innocent person has nothing to do with feminism.

Eg - Sarah Palin promotes a 'conservative feminism' which is pro life/ anti abortion & pro gun.

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But she isn't left wing @The Prowler.

And while many Leftist women believe she isn't entitled to call herself a feminist, a somewhat liberal publication said that Palin should be able to.

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I don't see her as a feminist, but if you do it matters little to me.

 

[LotusBud]

@Dove wrote: "You wouldn't want other people's philosophical beliefs forced down women's throats so they are making decisions NOT based on facts but your BELIEFS."

Here's a novel thought, Dovey: How about we let a woman make decisions based on her OWN beliefs, not yours?

Or is that too much freedom?

I think it's a very scary thought for people who are narrow thinkers.