Donald Trump Allies Threaten California Officials With Prison

[Lily]

The operating principle I suss out from that is that anchor babies are anchors no longer. Birth tourism denied. If the parents aren't citizens, the baby isn't one, either, born here or not.

I could be wrong on that, but that's the principle I see coming down the line. No more hopping the border to pop out a papoose so you can stay.

Mexicans come here to work and provide for their families...period!

Stfu up with your raciat anchor baby narratives

 

[Lily]

I don't hate anyone. But laws are laws. If we have to follow 'em, so do you. And if you don't have to follow 'em, neither do we. It's not racist to hold everybody to the same laws. It IS racist to use race to excuse anybody from following the law.

That's what fairness looks like.

Grow up.

 

[Jack]

As I understand it, Homan is going for a 'they all go' approach, so families with anchor babies will be ejected in toto.

Right. Lots of ICE people are going to be very surprised when that fails miserably. "Just give us 85 billion and we'll be all set"

Let's not even talk about "illegals with guns" with nothing to lose and no state assistance. I doubt seriously ICE people are going to risk their lives and careers over this.

 

[Courier 6]

Mexicans cone here to work and provide for their families...period!

Stfu up with your raciat anchor baby narratives

And if they had to stay home, they'd probably have a revolution and burn their corruptocrats to ash, and the drug cartels right along with them. Then Mexico would be a country where they could work and provide for their families in, instead of a country they want to flee from.

Our lax immigrations policies aren't doing anybody a kindness.

 

[Lily]

And if they had to stay home, they'd probably have a revolution and burn their corruptocrats to ash, and the drug cartels right along with them. Then Mexico would be a country where they could work and provide for their families in, instead of a country they want to flee from.

Don't look now, but Mexico has largely become a country where they stay home...it all happened while you've sat on your ginormous miserable ass hating on them.

 

[Courier 6]

Don't look now, but Mexico has largely become a country where they stay home...it all happened while you've sat on your ginormous miserable ass hating on them.

I told you before, this isn't about hate. This is about fairness. Everyone has to follow the law, ethnic or national affiliation notwithstanding.

 

[Lily]

I told you before, this isn't about hate. This is about fairness. Everyone has to follow the law, ethnic or national affiliation notwithstanding.

No, clearly not everyone has to follow the laws. Some people have the Supreme Court manipulate the law for theie own ends.

Wake the fuck up

 

[Courier 6]

No, clearly not everyone has to follow the laws. Some people have the Supreme Court manipulate the law for theie own ends.

Wake the fuck up

Now who's promoting hate-based conspiracy theories.

 

[Lily]

Now who's promoting hate-based conspiracy theories.

That's fact, not hate.

If you think that this country is about "fairness" you just might be the stupidest person at BF.

 

[The New Holliday]

I hope yous peepul will be drinking heavily tonight.
. Yous seem a little tight, but not in a good way.

 

[Courier 6]

That's fact, not hate.

If you think that this country is about "fairness" you just might be the stupidest person at BF.

No; but maybe the most principled.

 

[Lily]

No; but maybe the most principled.

Wow, quite full of yourself.

I'm the most moral human EVAH...quite a flex.

 

[Courier 6]

Wow, quite full of yourself.

I'm the most moral human EVAH...quite a flex.

It isn't a flex, and oughtn't be one. Everyone should be moral.

 

[Lily]

It isn't a flex, and oughtn't be one. Everyone should be moral.

That you think you define morality is a hoot.

 

[Jack]

I hope yous peepul will be drinking heavily tonight.
. Yous seem a little tight, but not in a good way.

I haven't started drinking quite yet, but I've got some wedding cake bud and some amazing hash along with a nice bottle of Legacy and a fifth of gin.

Should be all set.

 

[The New Holliday]

The problem stems from the Obama Administration stomping all over Arizona for SB1070. That administration set precedent by refusing States' Rights on the issue, which means that the Trump administration can do the same thing.

Wasn't/isn't the law that the Federal Government regulates immigration, Mr Lawful?

 

[Courier 6]

Wasn't/isn't the law that the Federal Government regulates immigration, Mr Lawful?

Precisely my point. If Arizona isn't allowed to enforce immigration law, then Chicago and California aren't allowed to defy immigration law.

You can't have it both ways.

 

[Joe]

Here's a video about Latinos who voted for Trump not fully understanding the implications or consequences of their choice @Lily



They voted with their pocketbooks and now pay with their souls

 

[Lily]

Precisely my point. If Arizona isn't allowed to enforce immigration law, then Chicago and California aren't allowed to defy immigration law.

You can't have it both ways.

How is not doing someone else's job a problem for the law?

 

[The New Holliday]

Precisely my point. If Arizona isn't allowed to enforce immigration law, then Chicago and California aren't allowed to defy immigration law.

You can't have it both ways.

Okay, so can we throw out your morality argument?
. Saudi Arabia executes people for criticizing the Prince.
Iran imprisons people for violating dress code morality.

Moral and law are not necessarily synonyms or agreed upon by all. Yes...No?

 

[Courier 6]

How is not doing someone else's job a problem for the law?

I'm not suggesting that local cops have to do ICE's job. But these "resist" princes are talking about local cops obstructing ICE. That's a different thing.

 

[Jack]

I'm not suggesting that local cops have to do ICE's job. But these "resist" princes are talking about local cops obstructing ICE. That's a different thing.

yeah well that's who they're talking about arresting if they don't "help". That's not obstruction at all.

 

[Courier 6]

Okay, so can we throw out your morality argument?

No, we can't.

. Saudi Arabia executes people for criticizing the Prince.
Iran imprisons people for violating dress code morality.

So are you suddenly throwing out 'moral relativism' now?

Moral and law are not necessarily synonyms or agreed upon by all. Yes...No?

Law and Law absolutely are the same thing, though. And using 'race' as a factor to excuse lawbreaking is... guess what...

Racist.

 

[Courier 6]

yeah well that's who they're talking about arresting if they don't "help". That's not obstruction at all.

If a local law enforcement body apprehends an illegal alien, ICE puts a detainer on that individual, then the local law enforcement body releases that individual despite the detainer, then yes, that's obstruction.

 

[The New Holliday]

No, we can't.

So are you suddenly throwing out 'moral relativism' now?

Law and Law absolutely are the same thing, though. And using 'race' as a factor to excuse lawbreaking is... guess what...

Racist.

I just say in support of Lily's point...then it's YOU who decides what is moral and what not?

..and, being honest, have you never broken a law because you didn't agree with it, and felt morally justified in doing so?

Oh, btw - I'm not making an argument that we should have open borders or shouldn't enforce immigration laws.
I'm just asking that you make a consistent argument based of principle.
I'll leave the open border shit to the radical conservatives like Libertarians.

 

[Jack]

If a local law enforcement body apprehends an illegal alien, ICE puts a detainer on that individual, then the local law enforcement body releases that individual despite the detainer, then yes, that's obstruction.

However in "sanctuary cities" local law enforcement doesn't "apprehend illegal aliens" remember?

 

[Lily]

I'm not suggesting that local cops have to do ICE's job. But these "resist" princes are talking about local cops obstructing ICE. That's a different thing.

Who is stopping the federal government?

 

[The New Holliday]

Who is stopping the federal government?

The people who pay their campaign funds etc.?...I just added the "?" there for funzies.

P: You know - I mean the Deep State. Elon Musk et al.

 

[Courier 6]

However in "sanctuary cities" local law enforcement doesn't "apprehend illegal aliens" remember?

Who is stopping the federal government?

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[Lily]

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I skimmed the article...everything that were resisting with is about teaching people to assert their rights.