Doveys advice column

[Biggie Smiles]

My kids just breezed through here (they are out riding bikes and running around because it's beautiful outside today) and I asked if they want me to work or be home.

Squish yelled "A JOB?! This IS your job! You dont need any other job! Grandma would die!" (That last one killed me lol) And the big one laughed and agreed.

So yep its settled.

I really cannot imagine anyone wanting to not be home with their family.

To each is in my mind. If a woman wants a career because that is what stimulates her and fulfills her that's her right and likewise if a woman loves the idea of a traditional center of the home position that's great too. It's all a matter of what is conducive to her well being and the well being of those whom her decisions directly impact ie any children she brings into the world and her spouse.

I don't agree with either side of the coin condemning the other which I primarily see coming out of the leftist scum who place ultimate value on self entitlement and personal gratification at any cost. THOSE people really suck

 

[Dove]

To each is in my mind. If a woman wants a career because that is what stimulates her and fulfills her that's her right and likewise if a woman loves the idea of a traditional center of the home position that's great too. It's all a matter of what is conducive to her well being and the well being of those whom her decisions directly impact ie any children she brings into the world and her spouse.

I don't agree with either side of the coin condemning the other which I primarily see coming out of the leftist scum who place ultimate value on self entitlement and personal gratification at any cost. THOSE people really suck

Yep.

All the time we see messaging that women staying home and taking care of her family is bad and "domestic slavery" or "subservient". We see modern shitlib feminist people constantly shitting on tradition and women who just are happy being wives and mothers.

And the very minute women come out saying they were miserable chasing careers or talking about the benefits of being at home.....the "other side" starts spewing and claiming we shouldnt judge, we should respect others choices, blah blah and then they start trashing and shit talking.

What the fuck are they so defensive about? Today traditional families are the counter culture.

Making women feel like they HAVE to work to be happy or be "whole" people is a scam ran by the ones who benefit from everyone slaving at a job.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Yep.

All the time we see messaging that women staying home and taking care of her family is bad and "domestic slavery" or "subservient". We see modern shitlib feminist people constantly shitting on tradition and women who just are happy being wives and mothers.

And the very minute women come out saying they were miserable chasing careers or talking about the benefits of being at home.....the "other side" starts spewing and claiming we shouldnt judge, we should respect others choices, blah blah and then they start trashing and shit talking.

What the fuck are they so defensive about? Today traditional families are the counter culture.

Making women feel like they HAVE to work to be happy or be "whole" people is a scam ran by the ones who benefit from everyone slaving at a job.

Feminists are the biggest enemies of womanhood.

We are seeing that clearly now after decades of screeching about some grave injustice which wasn’t a fraction as bad as they proclaimed here they are standing down when a real assault on women is being perpetrated by men

 

[Blazor]

Everything Good has become Bad. Everything Bad has become Good

 

[Biggie Smiles]

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For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

sounds a lot like some of the people we have around here

 

[Dove]

Someone pointed out how all the female pop stars all sing about being some strong independent type. You dont need a man. You are the boss bitch. Men are the enemy. We are like men. Blah blah

And all the female artists doing that are all married.

Beyonce....with all her fake empowerment anthems....stayed with a cheating Jay Z.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Someone pointed out how all the female pop stars all sing about being some strong independent type. You dont need a man. You are the boss bitch. Men are the enemy. We are like men. Blah blah

And all the female artists doing that are all married.

Beyonce....with all her fake empowerment anthems....stayed with a cheating Jay Z.

You realize that the same "boss bitch" that comes around here popping that bullshit cashed quite a few alimony checks from the man she didn't need. Took his pension too

hypocrisy at it's finest

I've always said they pop that independence bullshit right up until they are cashing a man's check at the nearest bank and within 30 seconds afterwards they're right back up on that high horse acting like the signature on that check was their own.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

The simple truth is this.

NO ONE is truly independent in our modern age. if you're buying groceries off a store shelf, cashing a check signed by an officer of a company or even the state you are dependent. period. That rah rah girl power bullshit is exactly that. Bullshit.

the closest thing to independence is living off the Grid, off the land and completely alone without any interaction with others.

And even then you remain dependent on sunlight, plant life, animal life and water -- all of which did not come into existence by sheer coincidence.

 

[Dove]

You realize that the same "boss bitch" that comes around here popping that bullshit cashed quite a few alimony checks from the man she didn't need. Took his pension too

hypocrisy at it's finest

I've always said the pop that independence bullshit right up until they are cashing a man's check at the nearest bank and within 30 seconds afterwards they're right back up on that high horse acting like the signature on that check was their own.

They say it's about choice but they shame and belittle women who DO "need a man" because they want to be wives and mothers.

They seriously act like taking care of your husband and kids makes you beneath them.

I get up in the morning and I cook breakfast and some asshole woman called me a legal prostitute.

Notice also the attitude of some people here, that I'm a sort of bum and that I use someone elses money (my husbands). Its such a warped mentality. And we wonder why divorce rates are high.

And then like you said .....when women like this divorce they applaud taking the mans money because they somehow "earned" it.

Things like alimony and spousal support exist to protect women who stayed home raising their family and the HUSBAND either abuses her, cheats or abandones his family.

Its not there for women who always worked and have their own stash. Both people need to look after their mutual childs needs.

No fault divorce has been toxic for society. It should be harder to get married AND harder to divorce. IMO.

 

[Dove]

The simple truth is this.

NO ONE is truly independent in our modern age. if you're buying groceries off a store shelf, cashing a check signed by an officer of a company or even the state you are dependent. period. That rah rah girl power bullshit is exactly that. Bullshit.

the closest thing to independence is living off the Grid, off the land and completely alone without any interaction with others.

And even then you remain dependent on sunlight, plant life, animal life and water -- all of which did not come into existence by sheer coincidence.

We would never survive without men.

The whole misandrist messaging that men are all horrible and useless and unneeded is so toxic and it's so wrong. AND it's bad for women.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

They say it's about choice but they shame and belittle women who DO "need a man" because they want to be wives and mothers.

They seriously act like taking care of your husband and kids makes you beneath them.

I get up in the morning and I cook breakfast and some asshole woman called me a legal prostitute.

Notice also the attitude of some people here, that I'm a sort of bum and that I use someone elses money (my husbands). Its such a warped mentality. And we wonder why divorce rates are high.

And then like you said .....when women like this divorce they applaud taking the mans money because they somehow "earned" it.

Things like alimony and spousal support exist to protect women who stayed home raising their family and the HUSBAND either abuses her, cheats or abandones his family.

Its not there for women who always worked and have their own stash. Both people need to look after their mutual childs needs.

No fault divorce has been toxic for society. It should be harder to get married AND harder to divorce. IMO.

Same women who say all that will be the same women who trample the people in front of them under their hoofs should they find themselves on a sinking ship with a shortage of life boats. All of the sudden that equality bullshit will go right out the window and it will be back to good ole fashioned "women and children first" until they've comfortably sat their most delicious woman I’ve ever laid my eyes on! ass in a life boat and secured their own safety

In a free society I do not believe the government should have any say whatsoever in the why's hows and when a couple wants to divorce. Some differences are truly irreconcilable. The only thing the government should provide is a fair distribution of assets based solely on individual contribution. Alimony is warranted in circumstances where a woman has spent a lifetime working her ass off to ensure a healthy home but NOT in circumstances where the woman did NOTHING no matter how long she was married to the dude.

And THAT is where the system fails. They actually provide an incentive for the non monied spouse to dissolve the marriage rather than a cause for pause

I personally knew both men and women who stood to gain far more financially by leaving their spouse than by staying and that is exactly what they ended up doing.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

We would never survive without men.

The whole misandrist messaging that men are all horrible and useless and unneeded is so toxic and it's so wrong. AND it's bad for women.

And likewise men would not survive without women. We were created as compliments to each other.

Even men who say otherwise don't believe such silliness deep down, they're just saying they don't need the Modern toxic feminist cunt. and frankly. they are right.

Meghan Markle being a prime example

But put them in a room with a good looking old fashioned girl with brains and moral value and watch how fast all that rhetoric goes out the fucking window

 

[Dove]

Same women who say all that will be the same women who trample the people in front of them under their hoofs should they find themselves on a sinking ship with a shortage of life boats. All of the sudden that equality bullshit will go right out the window and it will be back to good ole fashioned "women and children first" until they've comfortably sat their most delicious woman I’ve ever laid my eyes on! ass in a life boat and secured their own safety

In a free society I do not believe the government should have any say whatsoever in the why's hows and when a couple wants to divorce. Some differences are truly irreconcilable. The only thing the government should provide is a fair distribution of assets based solely on individual contribution. Alimony is warranted in circumstances where a woman has spent a lifetime working her ass off to ensure a healthy home but NOT in circumstances where the woman did NOTHING no matter how long she was married to the dude.

And THAT is where the system fails. They actually provide an incentive for the non monied spouse to dissolve the marriage rather than a cause for pause

I personally knew both men and women who stood to gain far more financially by leaving their spouse than by staying and that is exactly what they ended up doing.

I would gain financially from divorce.

My husband would be fucked though.

That's kinda why I think it should made harder to legally marry and divorce. Or the government should stay out of it all togther.

What should be incentivized is marraige and staying married. All these kids with divorced parents....most of them arent doing as well as their peers with two parent homes. (I'm not talking about the exceptions. ..I'm talking about the rule).

 

[Biggie Smiles]

I would gain financially from divorce.

My husband would be fucked though.

That's kinda why I think it should made harder to legally marry and divorce. Or the government should stay out of it all togther.

What should be incentivized is marraige and staying married. All these kids with divorced parents....most of them arent doing as well as their peers with two parent homes. (I'm not talking about the exceptions. ..I'm talking about the rule).

While I agree to an extent and trust me as a financially well off male I have every vested interest in agreeing with you entirely JUSTICE demands I see the other side of the spectrum.

A woman's efforts in the home and success a man enjoyed as a result of her contributions cannot be discounted during the dissolution of a marriage. She cannot spend 20 years as a homemaker with nothing but homemaker to place on her resume when she is reintroduced (sometimes abruptly) into the workforce. That is not fair. There needs to be a reasonable and just parachute for her (or him). Regardless of who initiated the divorce and irrespective of the reason. no matter how offensive to the conscience that reason may be. And yes, even if she cheated on him she's entitled to something. Perhaps a penalty where 20% if taken off the top for such an immoral violation but not a complete withholding of well earned and deserved support for her efforts.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

The saddest part about these so called independent women who believe they are above the traditional housewife is this:

As an assistant to a successful business man, contributing daily to the makings of his success and making 100K a year in the process such a woman will be proud of her accomplishment. This, despite she has no personal right to anything he attains and can be dismissed at any time and for any reason.

But to contribute to the success of the man she claims to love and who loves her back she will be appalled at the idea of assisting his success despite being blessed to enjoy the fruits of their combined labors TOGETHER. Because her mind is contaminated with ideas which are not grounded in reality

and that is what is so truly sad about what our culture has devolved into.

 

[Seamajor]

Dove is there a diet, supplements, exercise, etc, for a short chubby male that can’t get out his rut? Asking for a friend

 

[Dove]

Lol. My mothers first ex husband became a millionaire.

She stayed with him for 5 years and he was a big penny pincher and spent A LOT of time working on the business he was starting.

My mother was the total fuck up here and left because he put boundaries on her spending and didnt give her the attention I guess she wanted. And she trashed him for being broke (he wasnt broke....shes just irresponsible. Now that I have her? I've had to limit her ridiculous spending a few times and she gets mad...cant help it) and a bum and all that.

Well a few years after they divorced his business took off and made him wealthy.

He was awesome too. He thought that I should have been with them because parents are responsible for their children. He taught me how to shoot everything. And clean them and handle them and everything.

But she really bashed him as a broke wacko and she ended up with egg on her face here. He died and left his wife everything LOL. Mom got her alcoholic mattress salesman and I find this hilarious. It was awful for me but at this point I find it funny.

And this woman wanted to get married to be financially supported but she never cooked. Never cleaned. Made it clear she hated sex. Was never ever happy. Claims her (now dead) second ex husband financially abused her because he cut off her access to the bank account. He did that because she spends money like a fucking retard.

Now I'm the one financially abusing her because I don't let her spend with no limits.

 

[Joe]

Embrace tradition.

Fuck yes....its making a come back

Being a stay at home wife/mother is vastly better than having to work and slaving for strange men who would fire you and not give a fuck what happens to you or your kids. Slave for the man who would literally die for you.

Thats probably why there was this mass resignation during the pandemic eh @Dove?

People were so fed up with being stepped on by unscrupulius emplyers. So it appeared for a while that the whole society had rebelled against the old norms.



I think many people are still fed up with their employers & not just women eh.

 

[The Prowler]

@Joe That is not at all what Dovey was talking about.

 

[Seamajor]

Lol. My mothers first ex husband became a millionaire.

She stayed with him for 5 years and he was a big penny pincher and spent A LOT of time working on the business he was starting.

My mother was the total fuck up here and left because he put boundaries on her spending and didnt give her the attention I guess she wanted. And she trashed him for being broke (he wasnt broke....shes just irresponsible. Now that I have her? I've had to limit her ridiculous spending a few times and she gets mad...cant help it) and a bum and all that.

Well a few years after they divorced his business took off and made him wealthy.

He was awesome too. He thought that I should have been with them because parents are responsible for their children. He taught me how to shoot everything. And clean them and handle them and everything.

But she really bashed him as a broke wacko and she ended up with egg on her face here. He died and left his wife everything LOL. Mom got her alcoholic mattress salesman and I find this hilarious. It was awful for me but at this point I find it funny.

And this woman wanted to get married to be financially supported but she never cooked. Never cleaned. Made it clear she hated sex. Was never ever happy. Claims her (now dead) second ex husband financially abused her because he cut off her access to the bank account. He did that because she spends money like a fucking retard.

Now I'm the one financially abusing her because I don't let her spend with no limits.

I was hoping you could answer my question.

 

[Dove]

I was hoping you could answer my question.

You know I have a weird and irrational fear of midgets?

That's all I'm gonna say on that lol.

 

[Seamajor]

You know I have a weird and irrational fear of midgets?

That's all I'm gonna say on that lol.

They are a tad scary. Just thought you’d have some advice on the subject

 

[Dove]

Thats probably why there was this mass resignation during the pandemic eh @Dove?

People were so fed up with being stepped on by unscrupulius emplyers. So it appeared for a while that the whole society had rebelled against the old norms.



I think many people are still fed up with their employers & not just women eh.

A whole other convo Joe.

I DO agree with many of them and I think the Gen Z people doing it are ....like millennials....getting unfairly judged.

This is what the older generations have told them to do if they dont like their pay or their employers are awful.

What I oppose is government involvement and coercion. If the workers wanna fight this way for better pay and benefits? Welp employers gotta step up. Or not and lose workers. It's how capitalism works lol.

Not gonna get mad at youngsters for doing capitalism.

I know people on the right are shitting on people for this and saying "they dont wanna work".....that's not true. This is a slap back at employers who expect their workers to go above and beyond while the employer DOESNT go above and beyond in return. If the employee has a problem or a death or emergency....its by the letter in their contract. But the employer wants more then what the worker agreed to in the contract. If the employee only gets what is in the contract why should they give more than what's in the contract?

So the whole "sorry this isnt work hours" or "sorry, if you want me to do this....I expect compensation" and such is really just boundaries. MY generation twitches and cringes because we were the "work hard and give 200 percent and you'll do well" (gen x). But I personally agree with the quiet quitting. I think its positive and healthy and they are in the right.

 

[Dove]

They are a tad scary. Just thought you’d have some advice on the subject

I do. But it depends on location and health issues and all that.

Liquid vit D and long walks/runs in the morning and slowly add more. Drink lots of waters.

Sounds simple but that's really all it takes. Supplements are pricey and very gimmicky so do a lot of reading on any of them. Every year there is some new trendy "super food". Tried and true Vit D all the way.

 

[Seamajor]

I do. But it depends on location and health issues and all that.

Liquid vit D and long walks/runs in the morning and slowly add more. Drink lots of waters.

Sounds simple but that's really all it takes. Supplements are pricey and very gimmicky so do a lot of reading on any of them. Every year there is some new trendy "super food". Tried and true Vit D all the way.

Thanks Dove. I spend 3 or 4 hours everyday exercising. Not strenuous but constant. Walking, mostly bike riding, and surfing. These are things I can do without any pain or suffering, because I do them every day. I eat regular food but stay away from beef. Drinking enough water in the tropics is always a challenge. I must drink a gallon everyday, and it’s never enough. I drink about a quart before breakfast. Fresh fruit is another positive for one’s diet.

 

[Dove]

Thanks Dove. I spend 3 or 4 hours everyday exercising. Not strenuous but constant. Walking, mostly bike riding, and surfing. These are things I can do without any pain or suffering, because I do them every day. I eat regular food but stay away from beef. Drinking enough water in the tropics is always a challenge. I must drink a gallon everyday, and it’s never enough. I drink about a quart before breakfast. Fresh fruit is another positive for one’s diet.

Yeah I struggle with water. I'm supposed to drink my own body weight in water everyday....and i dont lol.

For a while i was filling a glass gallon jug (plastic is nasty and shit leaks into the water from the plastic...always use glass) with berkey water and trying to drink the whole thing daily. I always fail. I get seasonal depression (not as bad as I used to now that I have kids and I take lots of vit D) in the winter and I dont drink enough water. So my family all harps on me over it because of my kidney problems. Bleh. It's hard lol.

You know what helps? Infusing water. I like infusing it with lemon and cucumber slices and mint sprigs....or lemon and orange slices. Lemon and strawberry. Ginger. You can use anything. It makes it more fun so you'll likely drink more. I keep a klean Kantene filled at all times next to me. I'll sometimes carry that around all day and not finish lol.

 

[X]

@Joe That is not at all what Dovey was talking about.

are you the police ??

 

[Seamajor]

Yeah I struggle with water. I'm supposed to drink my own body weight in water everyday....and i dont lol.

For a while i was filling a glass gallon jug (plastic is nasty and shit leaks into the water from the plastic...always use glass) with berkey water and trying to drink the whole thing daily. I always fail. I get seasonal depression (not as bad as I used to now that I have kids and I take lots of vit D) in the winter and I dont drink enough water. So my family all harps on me over it because of my kidney problems. Bleh. It's hard lol.

You know what helps? Infusing water. I like infusing it with lemon and cucumber slices and mint sprigs....or lemon and orange slices. Lemon and strawberry. Ginger. You can use anything. It makes it more fun so you'll likely drink more. I keep a klean Kantene filled at all times next to me. I'll sometimes carry that around all day and not finish lol.

Awesome idea. I see that done in a few restaurants here. My neighbor swears by Electrolit. It’s an energy drink with electrolytes. So far, I stick with water. I buy bottled water in 5 gallon bottles. Doesn’t last long in the dry season.

 

[Dove]

Awesome idea. I see that done in a few restaurants here. My neighbor swears by Electrolit. It’s an energy drink with electrolytes. So far, I stick with water. I buy bottled water in 5 gallon bottles. Doesn’t last long in the dry season.

Water is always better. Those electrolit energy drinks are a gimmick. Things like Gatorade are good if you are dehydrated and getting an IV of fluids.

 

[Seamajor]

I believe youre 100% right. Gimmicks