Olklahoma - 'The Other South' of US Civil War few have known or heard about

[Joe]

...since it was not part of the United States during the American Civil War, not many people know about or aware of the State's history or prehistory.

Contrary to common assumption, Olklahoma wasn't truly 'neutral territory' during that turbulent period in American History.




It was actually quite involved in the American Civil War, tho it was Indian Tribes which controlled it and was known as the 'Indian Territory'

Native Tribes chose sides and fought one another.

Like Southern Whites, the Natives themselves were also Slave owners who owned Black Slaves.

So...there were pockets of wealthy Native tribes and chiefs who also upheld the Institution of Slavery in their Territory.

 

[Joe]

Olklahoma was also one of the most segregated and racist states in America right into the Civil Rights era:

 

[Joe]

 

[Lokmar]

Maybe if niggers decided to act like they live in A.D. instead of B.C., they wouldnt get shot.

 

[Joe]

Maybe if niggers decided to act like they live in A.D. instead of B.C., they wouldnt get shot.

You'd probably really like it in Olklahoma.

One US Serviceman told me he got accepted into the U of Oklahoma for ROTC & told me the reason he was goin' was,

'There aint no fags in Oklahoma, Joe!"

I thought that was so goddam funny!

So...I think it'd be yer kinda place.....Lokmeer!

 

[Dove]

"Like Southern Whites, the Natives themselves were also Slave owners who owned Black Slaves."

Oh boy. That might hurt some feels lol.

 

[Dove]

Maybe if niggers decided to act like they live in A.D. instead of B.C., they wouldnt get shot.

It's really, really sad to me how mainstream "black culture" influenced poor minorities for the absolute worst.

And yes, I'm pretty firm that rap and media really influenced a lot of the gang violence and using/beating women that goes on in low income black communities.

Its fucked up and sad. But at least middle/upper class white youths are entertained. That's the important thing.

I know I sound very conservative right now lol.

 

[LotusBud]

But then again, Native Americans and Blacks in Oklahoma also helped each other:

Attorney and author Hannibal Johnson says more black towns in Oklahoma's Indian Territory survived into the present day because most were formed by freedmen, former slaves who'd benefited from their relationship with the powerful native tribes who received access to land during the early 20th century allotment process.

"In some of the tribes, for example the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, there was a system of land ownership called 'usufructuary,' meaning that you were entitled to live on and use the land that you needed, basically, although you did not have clear title to the land," Johnson said. "So a lot of people of African descent living among, or affiliated in some way with the Five Civilized Tribes, gained access to land. And around that land they built these towns."

Johnson also said tension developed between people of African descent with Native American connections and those who had migrated from the Deep South to escape political oppression. He described the differences as petty personality squabbles mainly over attitudes.

"Those people with Native American ancestry thought that the people coming from the Deep South were too servile because they had been conditioned to act at the behest of the white man," Johnson said.

Johnson also said the proximity of towns like Boley, Clearview, Taft and Grayson to the headquarters of the various Indian Nations offered a high level of degree and support that allowed them to survive into the present day.

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[SHAMPAIN]

But then again, Native Americans and Blacks in Oklahoma also helped each other:

Attorney and author Hannibal Johnson says more black towns in Oklahoma's Indian Territory survived into the present day because most were formed by freedmen, former slaves who'd benefited from their relationship with the powerful native tribes who received access to land during the early 20th century allotment process.

"In some of the tribes, for example the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, there was a system of land ownership called 'usufructuary,' meaning that you were entitled to live on and use the land that you needed, basically, although you did not have clear title to the land," Johnson said. "So a lot of people of African descent living among, or affiliated in some way with the Five Civilized Tribes, gained access to land. And around that land they built these towns."

Johnson also said tension developed between people of African descent with Native American connections and those who had migrated from the Deep South to escape political oppression. He described the differences as petty personality squabbles mainly over attitudes.

"Those people with Native American ancestry thought that the people coming from the Deep South were too servile because they had been conditioned to act at the behest of the white man," Johnson said.

Johnson also said the proximity of towns like Boley, Clearview, Taft and Grayson to the headquarters of the various Indian Nations offered a high level of degree and support that allowed them to survive into the present day.

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Why do you always larp for every race except your own? I don't think you're very well tbh...

 

[Joe]

But then again, Native Americans and Blacks in Oklahoma also helped each other:

Attorney and author Hannibal Johnson says more black towns in Oklahoma's Indian Territory survived into the present day because most were formed by freedmen, former slaves who'd benefited from their relationship with the powerful native tribes who received access to land during the early 20th century allotment process.

"In some of the tribes, for example the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, there was a system of land ownership called 'usufructuary,' meaning that you were entitled to live on and use the land that you needed, basically, although you did not have clear title to the land," Johnson said. "So a lot of people of African descent living among, or affiliated in some way with the Five Civilized Tribes, gained access to land. And around that land they built these towns."

Johnson also said tension developed between people of African descent with Native American connections and those who had migrated from the Deep South to escape political oppression. He described the differences as petty personality squabbles mainly over attitudes.

"Those people with Native American ancestry thought that the people coming from the Deep South were too servile because they had been conditioned to act at the behest of the white man," Johnson said.

Johnson also said the proximity of towns like Boley, Clearview, Taft and Grayson to the headquarters of the various Indian Nations offered a high level of degree and support that allowed them to survive into the present day.

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Possibly some other reasons Oklahoma did well after the Civil war, is it wasn't a state, was a separte country, so it didn't get destroyed physically or financially by the War. It was akin to being like Switzerland dring World War I or II maybe?

So, it was able to prosper because it entered statehood after the Civil War.

 

[Lokmar]

"Like Southern Whites, the Natives themselves were also Slave owners who owned Black Slaves."

Oh boy. That might hurt some feels lol.

Yea, remember when jigs were fighting ti be injuns!

 

[Dove]

But then again, Native Americans and Blacks in Oklahoma also helped each other:

So did black and white people in the south.

Point?

 

[Biggie Smiles]

But then again, Native Americans and Blacks in Oklahoma also helped each other:

So did black and white people in the south.

Point?

the only point is the one at the top of her wicked witch hat

 

[Lokmar]

But then again, Native Americans and Blacks in Oklahoma also helped each other:

Attorney and author Hannibal Johnson says more black towns in Oklahoma's Indian Territory survived into the present day because most were formed by freedmen, former slaves who'd benefited from their relationship with the powerful native tribes who received access to land during the early 20th century allotment process.

"In some of the tribes, for example the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, there was a system of land ownership called 'usufructuary,' meaning that you were entitled to live on and use the land that you needed, basically, although you did not have clear title to the land," Johnson said. "So a lot of people of African descent living among, or affiliated in some way with the Five Civilized Tribes, gained access to land. And around that land they built these towns."

Johnson also said tension developed between people of African descent with Native American connections and those who had migrated from the Deep South to escape political oppression. He described the differences as petty personality squabbles mainly over attitudes.

"Those people with Native American ancestry thought that the people coming from the Deep South were too servile because they had been conditioned to act at the behest of the white man," Johnson said.

Johnson also said the proximity of towns like Boley, Clearview, Taft and Grayson to the headquarters of the various Indian Nations offered a high level of degree and support that allowed them to survive into the present day.

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Fukin slavery apologist!