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The truth must not be known, eh? Knowing that he was a mentally ill career criminal might disrupt the lie about "just jogging"
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The truth must not be known, eh? Knowing that he was a mentally ill career criminal might disrupt the lie about "just jogging"
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"White Nationalist Richard Spencer Votes for Joe Biden: 'To Hell With Libertarian Ideology'"
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Ok, you found one patriot who went to far where as this thread documents hundreds if not thousands of Antifa crimes. Unlike you, I actually want the law equally enforced so what is your point? So what is your point? That Antifa's constant criminal violence incites others to respond in kind? I agree.
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Calling every single act of urban violence an antifa action only makes you and Andy Ngo look like the boy who called Wolf.
Ok, you found one patriot who went to far where as this thread documents hundreds if not thousands of Antifa crimes. Unlike you, I actually want the law equally enforced so what is your point? So what is your point? That Antifa's constant criminal violence incites others to respond in kind? I agree.
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You mean as Biden went back to the democrat status quo.
All the way back to their jim crow. ..race pimping roots.
Maybe when he realized the accusations about Trump as a racist were false and his home was with dems.
Normal people never found him "relevant".
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Calling every single act of urban violence an antifa action only makes you and Andy Ngo look like the boy who called Wolf.
Ok, you found one patriot who went to far where as this thread documents hundreds if not thousands of Antifa crimes. Unlike you, I actually want the law equally enforced so what is your point? So what is your point? That Antifa's constant criminal violence incites others to respond in kind? I agree.
That's why I mostly say "leftwing" violence.
You realize minimizing antifa shows you've lost some humanity right?
That your motives are not the well being of the country or the people?
Who does urban violence impact the most?
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You need to stop lying, aidsman. Showing people dressed in black bloc, chanting antifa slogans, while waving antifa flags, at events called for and organized on known Antifa social media accounts is clearly Antifa. I know you are stupid but you can't be this stupid, ergo, you must be lying. As usual.
Oh, and speaking of you lying, remember when you posted that bull shit piece claiming some violent black thug simply talked to some guy's girlfriend and he shot him? Yeah, you even lied and tried to pretend it was racial. In reality, the black guy was viciously beating the poor woman and trying to rob her when the boyfriend intervened and shot the thug who was violently attacking the young woman.
It was also all caught on video. You lying sack of dog shit.
Oh, and speaking of you lying, remember when you posted that bull shit piece claiming some violent black thug simply talked to some guy's girlfriend and he shot him? Yeah, you even lied and tried to pretend it was racial. In reality, the black guy was viciously beating the poor woman and trying to rob her when the boyfriend intervened and shot the thug who was violently attacking the young woman.
It was also all caught on video. You lying sack of dog shit.
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Anytime there is an incident where a white and black person have a confrontation, that's an opportunity for State TV, Ministry of Truth.....to build on that race war narrative.
But the black person has to "lose" to the white one.
They need this narrative. Biden claimed white supremacy was the "greatest threat" to our nation.
So they need all the fake racists and hate crimes they can get to keep this divisive narrative propped up and fueling as much hate as possible.
They will openly lie and distort, where it's easily shown to be lies and nothing ever happens to them. No accountability for lying to the people. And this bullshit has faithful fans. There are people who WANT this narrative. They want to see America as racist in every way. They MAKE racism. If they all disappeared....all this race shit would as well.
Its genuinely terrifying.
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These are the delicate flowers that so unfairly fall victim to those awful mean SJW's
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Nowhere was this demonstrated more quickly than in the case of the meteoric rise and equally rapid fall of Andy Ngo, the provocateur and social media personality who garnered nationwide sympathy last June, when he tweeted that he was attacked by antifascist protesters at a rally. Last week, the local newspaper the Portland Mercury that a left-wing activist going undercover as a member of Patriot Prayer, a far-right group known for promoting and engaging in violent clashes with leftist activists, had given the publication an 18-minute video that included footage of Ngo with a group of Patriot Prayer members as the members discuss an upcoming brawl, including weaponry to be used in altercations with . Ngo, who describes himself as a journalist, did not record the conversation, and does not appear to have his camera or notebook out. For part of the footage, he is seen on his phone.
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The source told the Mercury that Ngo and Patriot Prayer have an “understanding” that the group offers him protection when he covers rallies in exchange for favorable coverage. While this has not been confirmed, and Ngo strongly denies these allegations, an audio between members of the Proud Boys, released by Willamette Week seemed to confirm that such discussions between Ngo and the Proud Boys had occurred, as one man is recorded saying that Ngo was attacked on June 29th because he refused an offer of protection. “Andy Ngo was fucking told that if he wanted protection from the PBs [Proud Boys], he went in with us and he went out with us,” the man says.
When reached for comment, Ngo directed Rolling Stone to his attorney Harmeet Dhillon, who refuted the allegations made by the Portland Mercury. “There have been suggestions made by that story and others that he is part of that group or embedded in that group or took protection from that group, which is absolutely false,” she tells Rolling Stone.
Nonetheless, the footage was highly embarrassing for Ngo, who has long claimed to be an independent and objective journalist, despite many left-wing activists in Portland accusing him of antagonizing them at rallies and selectively editing his footage to malign the left. Shortly after the footage was released, Quillette, a “free thought” publication with a libertarian bent, though founder Claire Lehmann to the Daily Beast that it had anything to do with the recently surfaced Patriot Prayer footage, as did Ngo in an op-ed published by the Spectator. (When asked about this, Dhillon says, “the suggestion that the video coming out is tied with [Ngo cutting ties with Quillette] is false and defamatory.”)
But the issue wasn’t so much that Ngo had finally been “exposed” as a right-wing provocateur as opposed to a journalist. It was that he’d managed to successfully convince so many ostensibly reasonable people otherwise, despite significant evidence to the contrary — and, in so doing, did some serious damage in the process.
Ngo has a long and rich history of trolling those on the left. While getting his master’s degree in political science at Portland State, he became convinced that a “social justice frenzy” was rapidly sweeping the nation, as he told a reporter who profiled him for becoming particularly focused on what he viewed as the increasingly urgent threat of Islam. In 2017, Ngo attended an interfaith student panel and tweeted a paraphrase of a Muslim student’s comments about how non-Muslims would be treated in an Islamic state. After he posted the tweet, which used inflammatory language out of context, Ngo was fired from the campus newspaper, the Portland State Vanguard. At the time, the said the firing was not motivated by partisanship, and that Ngo was removed from his post because the tweet was a “half-truth” that “incited a reaction and implicated the student panelist,” thus putting them in imminent jeopardy. But and other national right-wing news outlets salivated over the story, painting Ngo as an innocent victim on the pyre of political correctness and liberal media bias.
It was the experience of getting fired that apparently gave Ngo his first taste of martyrdom. He started fashioning himself as a gonzo independent journalist of sorts, showing up at various far-right rallies in Portland, a city that has increasingly become a battleground of the culture wars. He developed a knack for obtaining footage of anti-fascist protesters that leaned into preconceived notions of radical leftists, making them look violent, red-faced, angry, or even just irrational, a gimmick that landed him a handful of spots as a commentator on Fox News. He also found the time to rack up a few bylines, penning an investigation into for the New York Post, which notably quoted a gay Proud Boys member as saying it was “the most welcoming organization that I have ever been a part of.”
But it wasn’t until Ngo was attacked at the June rally that he truly ascended to the ranks of right-wing media shit-stirrer. “Attacked by antifa. Bleeding. They stole my camera equipment. No police until after. waiting for ambulance . If you have evidence Of attack please help,” he tweeted, later adding that he had been diagnosed at the ER with a brain hemorrhage and that antifa had thrown quick-dry cement milkshakes at him. (This claim was later .) Footage also surfaced on Twitter of Ngo at the rally, being doused with a milkshake and silly string, and getting punched by an antifascist protester.
Almost immediately, Ngo garnered tremendous sympathy from both sides of the political aisle, even raising $195,000 from a GoFundMe set up following the altercation. GOP leader Kevin McCarthy swiftly condemned the anti-fascist protesters, saying, “The hate and violence perpetrated by Antifa must be condemned in the strongest possible way by all Americans. I pray for full and speedy recovery for journalist Andy Ngo,” while Sen. Ted Cruz rallied for antifa to be labeled a domestic terrorist threat. CNN anchor Jake Tapper retweeted an interview with Ngo condemning antifa, and Democratic candidates Andrew Yang, Rep. Eric Swalwell, and Sen. Joe Biden also weighed in to defend Ngo, with a campaign spokesperson for the former vice presidentNew York Post, “violence directed at anyone because of their political opinions is never acceptable, regardless of what those beliefs might be,” and that “Andy Ngo’s attackers should be identified and investigated.”
Immediately, he metamorphosed from being just another right-wing troll scrambling for attention to a blank slate, a canvas onto which political figures and journalists of all stripes could project their goals and desires. For those on the right, condemning the boogeyman of antifa was a no-brainer, an easy and convenient way to score points with the base; for those on the left, it was an opportunity to telegraph being fair, rational, and level-headed, while simultaneously taking a few steps away from their black-clad brethren further left. And for members of the media, the industry to which Ngo ostensibly belonged, it was an opportunity to demonstrate, in the face of constant and unrelenting allegations of liberal bias, just how unbiased they could be.
What the buttoned-up campaign spokespeople and hair-shellacked CNN anchors could not have predicted, however, was that the legitimizing of Ngo would come at a cost. Not only did Ngo become a far more prominent media presence, warranting an expansive (if critical) profile in Buzzfeed and a byline in The Spectator, the world’s , he would also become the driving force behind — as Tess Owen of Vice — the increasingly hostile “national attitudes toward the decentralized [antifa] activist movement.” The coverage of the Portland attack helped to spur Sen. Ted Cruz’s bill to designate antifa as a terrorist organization, which was in Congress in July. In the hours following the mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, which took more than 20 people’s lives, Ngo was in promoting the conspiracy theory that antifa had played a role; when that was thoroughly debunked, he helped perpetuate the theory that the man behind the Dayton, Ohio shooting was a , despite the fact that there is no evidence he was involved in local activism or organizing.
Even if Ngo himself were a fraudulent journalist, and the victim narrative he promoted was also under fraudulent pretenses, his ability to get bad ideas in front of a mainstream audience was all too real. Because above all else, the attack on Ngo — and his ability to successfully spin it into a lucrative and semi-legitimate media career — appeared to shift the narrative regarding extremist violence more toward the far right’s favor. For groups like Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, “what allegedly happened to Andy Ngo was for them in a lot of ways,” Keegan Hankes, a researcher and analyst at the Southern Poverty Law Center, previously told Rolling Stone. “It got a lot of media attention and it reinforced something the Proud Boys have pushed for years, which is the real threat is the violent left.”
The issue with this narrative is that this is verifiably not the case; though members of antifa have committed violent acts, that number is dwarfed by those committed by far-right extremists, says Hankes. That’s also the truth according to FBI director Christopher Wray, who has that white supremacists constitute “the vast majority” of domestic terrorism threats. And when considering the very real, very immediate threat of far-right radicalization, promoting the conspiracy theories of a huckster like Ngo serves as little more than a distraction.
While the Portland Mercury story could cost him whatever was left of his mainstream reputation, it certainly won’t cost him his career. In the ever-expanding right-wing media ecosystem, there is plenty of room for trolls with a knack for video-editing software and gaming Twitter to find an audience, particularly if they are telling that audience what they know they want to hear. It should, however, serve as a chastening teachable moment to those who took him seriously, if only for a short time. That way, when some other ambitious young man with slick and dangerous ideas starts quacking, we’ll all know exactly what to call him.
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green moustache
30 July, 2020
EJ Dickson you should be ashamed and retract this, especially in light of what antifa has been perpetrating in the last couple of months. Regardless of what Andy Ngo believes or how he communicates it, no person deserves to be targeted, hit with projectiles, beaten or robbed. Violence is only ok def...See more
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JJMAC
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As a woman I am genuinely disturbed at how many woman are in defence of these organizations. Too stupid unfortunately to connect the dots, know their history, and know where this leads. They were a massive part of Hitlers rise as well.
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nunya
8 September, 2020
I don't think Andy needs to manipulate anything to make Antifa look bad. They do enough of that on their own. People are finally waking up to the fact that Antifa is a disguise for a marxist revolution
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Dancehall
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I’m proud of all these comments calling out this article.
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martine
21 July, 2021
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I feel the same. You can't overlook violence.
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GoldPumpkin
30 September, 2020
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH MY FRIEND. And I'm proud of you as well.
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Erwin Schrödinger
23 August, 2020
Andy Ngo appears to be a spot-on, honest reporter of what is going on today on our city streets. It would be worderful if established newspapers such as the New York Times had as high a record for honest and accuracy.
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JJMAC
26 September, 2020
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Given how much money the New York Times takes from the CCP now to publish content disguised as news, are you really surprised? Media and journalism lost their way. The only thing that may salvage it is full and radical transparency around ownership and special interests and the same for the journali...See more
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Sergey Lutsenko
29 August, 2020
That writing is actually shame. But keep going, that just makes November surprise even more likely.
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OliveCar
29 April, 2020
Wow, this article is dishonest! 3rd paragraph implies Andy Ngo has an agreement with the PBs (then later admits that he is reported as rejecting the offer of protection from the PBs.) Here are some facts: Andy Ngo is a tiny guy, totally non-threatening physically. He's a credentialled journalist. H...See more
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pablosodahead
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Rolling Stone has done little to show for changing its spots. It has not and has not for years. Just review its history in 'journalism' . End of story.
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Tim
3 September, 2020
Well... this aged well.
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GreenAnchor
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Turns out there are outlets with even lower standards than Quillette, like Newsweek
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GoldMagnet
12 February, 2020
Did you know that he had a medically diagnosed brain hemorrhage after this?
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Ngo’s a hack
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Which he never was able to prove, and immediately jumped on a plane. Fun fact: people with traumatic brain injuries are explicitly told by doctors to not fly.
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Alex Reynard
18 July, 2020
It is absolutely disgusting that you are painting the villain as the victim and the victim as the villain. You are no better than the fashionable American intellectuals in the 1930s who defended Hitler at cocktail parties. What an embarrassment to your beginnings you've become, Rolling Stone.
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CyanSushi
9 June, 2020
Decades ago I was a house player at at Plant Studio in Sausalito and there was always a copy of Rolling Stone...always. Back then the mag was cutting edge but today they are just a pipe organ for politics. Saying the ANTIFA image has been manipulated is like saying the KKK image has been manipulat...See more
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These are the delicate flowers that so unfairly fall victim to those awful mean SJW's
"We are the Boots on the ground" Antifa Park*
Right so any regular people that try to take a stand against violent political terrorists who burn down communities are the terrorists.
Leftwing activists are ENTITLED to destroy whatever they want, hurt or kill whoever they want, and any people who go to stand up against this are the bad guys.
And there are NO right wing extremists committing violence anywhere.
Rolling Stone are blatant liars. Yanno like lying about hospitals being over run with horse paste ODs liars.
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Rolling Stone....totally trust worthy
"What Rolling Stone's botched ivermectin story tells us about misinformation"
Where is all this right wing violence? It's a ridiculously disgusting claim right now when our problem is LEFT WING violence destroying entire communities and getting people killed.
Where is your humanity?
"What Rolling Stone's botched ivermectin story tells us about misinformation"
Where is all this right wing violence? It's a ridiculously disgusting claim right now when our problem is LEFT WING violence destroying entire communities and getting people killed.
Where is your humanity?
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In 1872, Captain Jack led 52 warriors along with 100 additional women and children off of the the Klamath Reservation in Oregon. They occupying defensive positions against the US Army throughout the lava beds south of Tule Lake, CA. They had only two rifles, but ran circles around the nearly 700 troopers for months.
Who were the fascists?
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Poor ol Aunt Teefa! She's so misunderstood! She din doo nuffins!!!!
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You know Boogaloo Boys are anarchists, right? They just aren't communists.. They routinely protest and riot with Antifa and BLM. So, yes, that is definitely an example of still more anarchist violence.
You didn't mean to but you actually finally posted on topic. Even if accidentally.
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The retard thinks anarchists taking part in Amtifa/BLM riots are some how not a related group to Antifa/BLM.
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In 1872, Captain Jack led 52 warriors along with 100 additional women and children off of the the Klamath Reservation in Oregon. They occupying defensive positions against the US Army throughout the lava beds south of Tule Lake, CA. They had only two rifles, but ran circles around the nearly 700 troopers for months.
Who were the fascists?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
So what's your point? You dont approve of shit dead people did in the 1800s so now your partisan "side" is excused for thier fascism? Is that what you think?
