Is anyone following the Gabby Petito saga?

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I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.
 

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It’s a difficult one when it comes to your daughter’s relationships.

Yeah, I know it would be a lot of work...building love and trust for years and years...and then it would still be a balancing act of not going so far that you are overbearing and they want to rebel against you.

I think teaching your children to value "kindness" in people will go a long way.
 

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It’s a difficult one when it comes to your daughter’s relationships.

Yeah, I know it would be a lot of work...building love and trust for years and years...and then it would still be a balancing act of not going so far that you are overbearing and they want to rebel against you.

I think teaching your children to value "kindness" in people will go a long way.
My daughter is a 23 year old vegan hippie...valuing kindness...is a pain in the arse!
 

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Tyson isn’t in his prime.

No, but he looked pretty good in that recent exhibition fight against Roy Jones Jr.

He can still handle himself.

I would kick his ass, though.
Agreed...

I think people, like @Omnipotent (and she’s a front bum) for example, don’t realise what fighters are about. Rules make boxing a sport. Rules make certain fighters in their prime look invisible.
 

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It's interesting how the rapist label sticks to some people and not others, most people have forgotten all about Tyson being a rapist and just remember him for his boxing.

He isn't a rapist.

My bad, I thought that was the reason for his jail sentence.
They defend him because he's black.

He is one of the planet's heavy weight champions of the boxing world. I bet you would shit your underoos in his very presence... wtf has his skin colour got to do with anything?

If a person is guilty of rape, they should be flogged within an inch of their life... if they rape a minor, they should be executed.

When you've read Tysons autobiography THEN you can have an opinion, until then your opinion is moot.
Blow it out your old wrinkled ass granny.
 

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This is good. 20 minutes long. If you can watch it, do so because this was aired just before the remains of the boyfriend was found.




The cops are so frustrating.

The police and her parents have no idea what narcissistic abuse looks like. He was "polite" and "quiet"? They dont want to publically say they felt weird around him.

Because they didnt like him and they had no solid reason to not like him....so they dont want to talk about it. That's how it goes. You sense something is off and it can make you think you are crazy.

So sad watching the mom look for a way to believe Gabbys death was painless and somewhere beautiful :( her last days were loaded with high stress, insecurity and emotional pain. And these sadistic abusive demons enjoy inflicting suffering on others. That poor girls last days and moments were no doubt absolutely miserable.

That little fuckers whole family is fucked up. It's not a family. It's a nest of sociopaths.

Police should have ongoing required training as more is learned about domestic abuse situations. It's amazing they talked to them both all that time and it didnt occur to them once that if one person is hysterical and the other is calm and chill.....well it's because the calm one tormented the other one into hysterics.
 

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I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.

This is all true. The problem is, a lot of sociopathic men lure women in by being nice to them. The whole love boms thing. The evil doesn't come out until later, when the woman is already in love, and possibly already completely dependent on the guy. It can be very difficult for some women to find a way out, no matter how much they've been warned. Often, they do not even get that it is not their fault, because the guy tells them everything is their fault, and they believe it. They think if they just get it together, everything will go back to how it was.
 

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Immediate Contradiction Alert!!!

I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.

This is all true. The problem is, a lot of sociopathic men lure women in by being nice to them. The whole love boms thing. The evil doesn't come out until later, when the woman is already in love, and possibly already completely dependent on the guy. It can be very difficult for some women to find a way out, no matter how much they've been warned. Often, they do not even get that it is not their fault, because the guy tells them everything is their fault, and they believe it. They think if they just get it together, everything will go back to how it was.
Cool story Lotusboop :Bored3:
 

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I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.

This is all true. The problem is, a lot of sociopathic men lure women in by being nice to them. The whole love boms thing. The evil doesn't come out until later, when the woman is already in love, and possibly already completely dependent on the guy. It can be very difficult for some women to find a way out, no matter how much they've been warned. Often, they do not even get that it is not their fault, because the guy tells them everything is their fault, and they believe it. They think if they just get it together, everything will go back to how it was.

That's what we were saying, teach them about these tactics before hand so when that love bombing starts they recognize it as the huge red flag it is.

My oldest actually was seeing a boy for a few months. And he started this love bombing shit. Smothering her. And picking petty fights with over stupid things when she would go study at her friends house.

All the stuff she enjoys doing as her own whole person became a threat to this little punk.

She pulled his number and dumped the shit out of him and blocked him. Cried it out for a few days, and was over it.

I was SO proud of her. She knew he was fucked up. She would come to me to explain what was happening so she could see how it sounded out loud. He really was making her kinda nutty second guessing herself.

Shes really good friends now with the girl he was mentally abusing before he met my daughter.

They start this shit young. I considered talking to his parents.....but he is the way he is for a reason and it's probably a narc nest over there lol. I'm just glad my daughter got rid of him.

The tactics people like this use need to be common knowledge. It's like we are all just figuring out about it but its been going on forever.
 

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I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.

This is all true. The problem is, a lot of sociopathic men lure women in by being nice to them. The whole love boms thing. The evil doesn't come out until later, when the woman is already in love, and possibly already completely dependent on the guy. It can be very difficult for some women to find a way out, no matter how much they've been warned. Often, they do not even get that it is not their fault, because the guy tells them everything is their fault, and they believe it. They think if they just get it together, everything will go back to how it was.

Evil isn't a trait which exclusively belongs to the male of the species you know.
 

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This is good. 20 minutes long. If you can watch it, do so because this was aired just before the remains of the boyfriend was found.




The cops are so frustrating.

The police and her parents have no idea what narcissistic abuse looks like. He was "polite" and "quiet"? They dont want to publically say they felt weird around him.

Because they didnt like him and they had no solid reason to not like him....so they dont want to talk about it. That's how it goes. You sense something is off and it can make you think you are crazy.

So sad watching the mom look for a way to believe Gabbys death was painless and somewhere beautiful :( her last days were loaded with high stress, insecurity and emotional pain. And these sadistic abusive demons enjoy inflicting suffering on others. That poor girls last days and moments were no doubt absolutely miserable.

That little fuckers whole family is fucked up. It's not a family. It's a nest of sociopaths.

Police should have ongoing required training as more is learned about domestic abuse situations. It's amazing they talked to them both all that time and it didnt occur to them once that if one person is hysterical and the other is calm and chill.....well it's because the calm one tormented the other one into hysterics.


Being strangled is fairly painless an takes only two minutes.... That is what the mother meant. Let her have her way of coping with a virtually inconsolable situation.
 

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I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.

This is all true. The problem is, a lot of sociopathic men lure women in by being nice to them. The whole love boms thing. The evil doesn't come out until later, when the woman is already in love, and possibly already completely dependent on the guy. It can be very difficult for some women to find a way out, no matter how much they've been warned. Often, they do not even get that it is not their fault, because the guy tells them everything is their fault, and they believe it. They think if they just get it together, everything will go back to how it was.

Evil isn't a trait which exclusively belongs to the male of the species you know.

Yeah keep telling yourself that if it helps you slep at night.
 

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This is good. 20 minutes long. If you can watch it, do so because this was aired just before the remains of the boyfriend was found.




The cops are so frustrating.

The police and her parents have no idea what narcissistic abuse looks like. He was "polite" and "quiet"? They dont want to publically say they felt weird around him.

Because they didnt like him and they had no solid reason to not like him....so they dont want to talk about it. That's how it goes. You sense something is off and it can make you think you are crazy.

So sad watching the mom look for a way to believe Gabbys death was painless and somewhere beautiful :( her last days were loaded with high stress, insecurity and emotional pain. And these sadistic abusive demons enjoy inflicting suffering on others. That poor girls last days and moments were no doubt absolutely miserable.

That little fuckers whole family is fucked up. It's not a family. It's a nest of sociopaths.

Police should have ongoing required training as more is learned about domestic abuse situations. It's amazing they talked to them both all that time and it didnt occur to them once that if one person is hysterical and the other is calm and chill.....well it's because the calm one tormented the other one into hysterics.


Being strangled is fairly painless an takes only two minutes.... That is what the mother meant. Let her have her way of coping with a virtually inconsolable situation.


I think desperately fighting to breathe would be horrendous and time takes on a new dimension when your life is at stake. I was broadsided in a car accident 24 years ago and I felt the time warp in my brain.

I can't imagine two entire minutes...torturous.
 

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I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.

This is all true. The problem is, a lot of sociopathic men lure women in by being nice to them. The whole love boms thing. The evil doesn't come out until later, when the woman is already in love, and possibly already completely dependent on the guy. It can be very difficult for some women to find a way out, no matter how much they've been warned. Often, they do not even get that it is not their fault, because the guy tells them everything is their fault, and they believe it. They think if they just get it together, everything will go back to how it was.

Evil isn't a trait which exclusively belongs to the male of the species you know.

Yeah keep telling yourself that if it helps you slep at night.

I think there are also evil females. Absolutely.
 

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I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.

This is all true. The problem is, a lot of sociopathic men lure women in by being nice to them. The whole love boms thing. The evil doesn't come out until later, when the woman is already in love, and possibly already completely dependent on the guy. It can be very difficult for some women to find a way out, no matter how much they've been warned. Often, they do not even get that it is not their fault, because the guy tells them everything is their fault, and they believe it. They think if they just get it together, everything will go back to how it was.

Evil isn't a trait which exclusively belongs to the male of the species you know.

Yeah keep telling yourself that if it helps you slep at night.

So you don't believe that evil women exist?
 

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This is good. 20 minutes long. If you can watch it, do so because this was aired just before the remains of the boyfriend was found.




The cops are so frustrating.

The police and her parents have no idea what narcissistic abuse looks like. He was "polite" and "quiet"? They dont want to publically say they felt weird around him.

Because they didnt like him and they had no solid reason to not like him....so they dont want to talk about it. That's how it goes. You sense something is off and it can make you think you are crazy.

So sad watching the mom look for a way to believe Gabbys death was painless and somewhere beautiful :( her last days were loaded with high stress, insecurity and emotional pain. And these sadistic abusive demons enjoy inflicting suffering on others. That poor girls last days and moments were no doubt absolutely miserable.

That little fuckers whole family is fucked up. It's not a family. It's a nest of sociopaths.

Police should have ongoing required training as more is learned about domestic abuse situations. It's amazing they talked to them both all that time and it didnt occur to them once that if one person is hysterical and the other is calm and chill.....well it's because the calm one tormented the other one into hysterics.


Being strangled is fairly painless an takes only two minutes.... That is what the mother meant. Let her have her way of coping with a virtually inconsolable situation.


I know. I just think it's sad :(
 

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I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.

This is all true. The problem is, a lot of sociopathic men lure women in by being nice to them. The whole love boms thing. The evil doesn't come out until later, when the woman is already in love, and possibly already completely dependent on the guy. It can be very difficult for some women to find a way out, no matter how much they've been warned. Often, they do not even get that it is not their fault, because the guy tells them everything is their fault, and they believe it. They think if they just get it together, everything will go back to how it was.

Evil isn't a trait which exclusively belongs to the male of the species you know.

Yeah keep telling yourself that if it helps you slep at night.

So you don't believe that evil women exist?

They do, A.

It's just that statistically women are more likely to be murdered by thier male partners.

Male violence against women is a pretty significant issue....and that's not saying every man is dangerous.

If you had daughter, you know one of your main worries would be other men.
 

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so... they found 'pieces' of his skull and IDd him that way

did he use a shotgun or did the gators pop his top like they do with turtles?
 

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I really doubt her parents could have had much influence over this. If she had a solid and good relationship with her parents... he would have been attacking it and isolating her like abusers do.

Everyone should teach thier kids about people like this so when they see the warning signs they dip. Like the over romantic love bombing and intense romantic bullshit. The very minute that shit starts is when you nope outta there.

I am only here to help.

Yeah....that was a contradiction. I worded that poorly for sure lol.

What I was trying to express was that if you teach them early on how to identify abusive behavior, and how to have and respect healthy boundaries....that will have the most influence on them. But if they are already caught up in this kind of relationship, its really difficult to get through to them.

Once they fall for that love bombing and get hooked, it's damn near impossible to reason with them. They have to decide for themselves. Like a drug addiction.

Sorry I wasnt clear on that lol.

Yeah, you gotta teach them when they are young. Before they are dating at all. Build their self esteem. And let them know about the motherfuckers who are out in the real world who will try to convince them that they are a nice person. Let them know what are some red flags. Let them know that they can always confide in you and you will always have their best interest at heart.

This is all true. The problem is, a lot of sociopathic men lure women in by being nice to them. The whole love boms thing. The evil doesn't come out until later, when the woman is already in love, and possibly already completely dependent on the guy. It can be very difficult for some women to find a way out, no matter how much they've been warned. Often, they do not even get that it is not their fault, because the guy tells them everything is their fault, and they believe it. They think if they just get it together, everything will go back to how it was.

Evil isn't a trait which exclusively belongs to the male of the species you know.

Yeah keep telling yourself that if it helps you slep at night.

So you don't believe that evil women exist?

Who are you asking? I know evil mean and women exist, but I don't believe anyone is born evil.
 

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If she was conscious while he strangled her, yes she fought and struggled to breathe.

That's just a reflex we would all experience if our throats were being crushed and our breathing being impaired.

People on vents are usually heavily sedated or even given paralytics so they dont struggle against the vent. The vent does your breathing FOR you....which is insanely uncomfortable for most people and you try to actually fight this and breathe. Even though you ARE getting air and oxygen...it feels like being crushed and unable to breathe. People WILL grab at it and fight the vent out of instinct. So they need to be very sedated and sometimes tied down(restraints).

I've heard it compared to strangling.

I mean it's not the WORST way to die.....but it's not some peaceful lovely experience either. A person being strangled too death is suffering. Even if it's just a minute....its a minute of panick, pain...and suffering.

You wouldnt strangle something to euthanize it, you know?
 

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That's just a reflex we would all experience if our throats were being crushed and our breathing being impaired.

Did they report that her throat was crushed?

If not, you people are making assumptions.

If the blood supply to the brain is cut off, that is strangulation; whether or not the trachea is constricted.

i.e. You can be strangled and still be breathing just fine.