I may be 47 but I look, act, and move like I'm 32....

[Dove]

It always is at midnight and 1am too.

"Hur der.....go play with your kids and bake a cake" and its fucking 1 am.

Drunken pervert wackjob.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Glad I exposes that sick fucking PLEASE ASS BOX ME! for what he is

No shit.

My husband would tear this guys throat out and shit down it JUST for being way too invested in our daughters.

The first few times it was silly but at this point it's getting disturbing.

Yep. Glad I exposed the real him

Notice the vivid detail he goes into?

Oh stop it….just stop it! You fingered Squish!

You you jerk off to these imaginary scenarios you think of involving children?

You you you you jerk off to Squish! Ptooey! Sick!

Pedofall says wha?

Jesus….calm down youyouyou two! Bahahahahahaaaaa

Bro -- how often do you fantasize about these naughty things with Dovey's kid?

Pretty much every night he logs on. He starts in about my kids.

It's like midnight and 1 am and Break starts with his "where are your children! Go spend time with your kids!" hoping I'm gonna start dropping info about them.

Butter you up and before you know it he's cooking up a scheme to have you mailing her panties to him

for purely scientific purposes of course

 

[Biggie Smiles]

It always is at midnight and 1am too.

"Hur der.....go play with your kids and bake a cake" and its fucking 1 am.

Drunken pervert wackjob.

His daugther probably did stay up all night in fear of that fucking door knob turning in her room

 

[Dove]

It always is at midnight and 1am too.

"Hur der.....go play with your kids and bake a cake" and its fucking 1 am.

Drunken pervert wackjob.

His daugther probably did stay up all night in fear of that fucking door knob turning in her room

Kinda reminds me of back at CO when the stupid fuckers used to accuse me of neglecting my kids for the internet.

On a weekday. During school hours.

Only this is dumber and more sinister.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Notice all the clues he provided on this alleged "11 year old troll"

so basically there are people around these parts that know of his sickening fetish involving children for 11 years

oh boy and seamajor thought he got it bad?

I'm most certainly just starting to get warmed up on this clown

fo sure

 

[Biggie Smiles]

It always is at midnight and 1am too.

"Hur der.....go play with your kids and bake a cake" and its fucking 1 am.

Drunken pervert wackjob.

His daugther probably did stay up all night in fear of that fucking door knob turning in her room

Kinda reminds me of back at CO when the stupid fuckers used to accuse me of neglecting my kids for the internet.

On a weekday. During school hours.

Only this is dumber and more sinister.

I bet his kid didn't sleep for 96 hours a pop whenever he wasn't passed out drunk

 

[Dove]

It always is at midnight and 1am too.

"Hur der.....go play with your kids and bake a cake" and its fucking 1 am.

Drunken pervert wackjob.

His daugther probably did stay up all night in fear of that fucking door knob turning in her room

Kinda reminds me of back at CO when the stupid fuckers used to accuse me of neglecting my kids for the internet.

On a weekday. During school hours.

Only this is dumber and more sinister.

I bet his kid didn't sleep for 96 hours a pop whenever he wasn't passed out drunk

Would you?

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Nope

 

[Biggie Smiles]

the level of vivid detail he went into regarding Dove's daughter tho

he's thought about it many times

and that right there tells you everything you need to know.

and Pig supports that

but will be the first to cry that her family is being attacked

 

[Joe]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that. That used to be the stuff of B movie comedies back in the 1970s & 80s.

 

[Dove]

the level of vivid detail he went into regarding Dove's daughter tho

he's thought about it many times

and that right there tells you everything you need to know.

and Pig supports that

but will be the first to cry that her family is being attacked

He is just gross. And a drunk.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

the level of vivid detail he went into regarding Dove's daughter tho

he's thought about it many times

and that right there tells you everything you need to know.

and Pig supports that

but will be the first to cry that her family is being attacked

He is just gross. And a drunk.

and a pedophile obviously

 

[Dove]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

 

[Joe]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

 

[Breakfall]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that. That used to be the stuff of B movie comedies back in the 1970s & 80s.

You have so much patience Joe. I truly wouldn’t be bothered with the skank. She’s had so much cock in her!

 

[Joe]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that. That used to be the stuff of B movie comedies back in the 1970s & 80s.

You have so much patience Joe. I truly wouldn’t be bothered with the skank. She’s had so much cock in her!

And clearly you wish you had been one of the lucky ones. ;d

 

[Breakfall]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that. That used to be the stuff of B movie comedies back in the 1970s & 80s.

You have so much patience Joe. I truly wouldn’t be bothered with the skank. She’s had so much cock in her!

And clearly you wish you had been one of the lucky ones. ;d

Fuck off man!

 

[Adam Hitler]

Rape face

 

[X]

 

[X]

Rape face

you wearin a MAD FACE BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

BTW did a raccoon rape yoo ?? since when do raccoon s rape people ffs idiot much ??

 

[Dove]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

 

[Seamajor]

Notice all the clues he provided on this alleged "11 year old troll"

so basically there are people around these parts that know of his sickening fetish involving children for 11 years

oh boy and seamajor thought he got it bad?

I'm most certainly just starting to get warmed up on this clown

fo sure

Did maw tell ya that? Did she kick your ass out at the same time? Loser Dwarf

 

[Seamajor]

Notice all the clues he provided on this alleged "11 year old troll"

so basically there are people around these parts that know of his sickening fetish involving children for 11 years

oh boy and seamajor thought he got it bad?

I'm most certainly just starting to get warmed up on this clown

fo sure

I can tell the dwarf is at the end of his rope. When can I post your photo Stubby. The laugh of the century.

 

[Joe]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

 

[Dove]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.

 

[Joe]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.

You may not believe it Dovey...but a Lotta guys don't wanna get too involved with women & aren't looking for a long term commitment or relationship.

 

[Seamajor]

Thank you Joe

 

[The Countess]

Did I just read baby girls nickname in all of this? Why is this child getting personally dragged in this?

Breaky, we’ve known each other for a long time. You’ve always DEFENDED against that type of filth. Who is in your ear, cuz this ain’t you.

 

[The Countess]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.

You may not believe it Dovey...but a Lotta guys don't wanna get too involved with women & aren't looking for a long term commitment or relationship.

You also believe all women are gold diggers, trying to trap men with kids. Sit this one out, Joe.

 

[Dove]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.

You may not believe it Dovey...but a Lotta guys don't wanna get too involved with women & aren't looking for a long term commitment or relationship.

And what does that have to do with what I have been saying?

If they do not want to get serious.....how would waiting for sex matter? I've been saying repeatedly that if YOU WANT a long term commitment, waiting to have sex is BEST. To get to know that person and decide if they are long term material without creating a chemical bond with that person that will cloud your judgement.

You didnt read my posts. You skimmed and added in and changed my point entirely.

And you just gave an example of what I'm talking about. Let's say you are looking for a long term relationship and you start talking to someone who just wants to fuck. But you dont wanna JUST fuck. You want more. And this person is future faking you so they can get into your pants and USE you for sex.

What's the best way to protect yourself from being used for sex when you are seeking a committed relationship? WAITING.