I may be 47 but I look, act, and move like I'm 32....

[Breakfall]

LOL pretty sure that large Lily is the serial bed shitter around here.

Good morning Shitler! Jump on the bandwagon squirt!

 

[Dove]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!

You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again?

Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!

When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol

Yeah, it's about you. Your ongoing alcohol problem and how you fucked up your kids.

And instead of working on your life, you sit your ass on a forum projecting your issues on strangers

Its either that or you are a predator.

You ain't shit, Break. Your barley coated mewlings mean nothing to me. I think you need to go to rehab, use those resources to get some therapy and start mending your relationships.

 

[Breakfall]

I mean…everyone is just

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!

You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again?

Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!

When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol

Yeah, it's about you. Your ongoing alcohol problem and how you fucked up your kids.

And instead of working on your life, you sit your ass on a forum projecting your issues on strangers

Its either that or you are a predator.

You ain't shit, Break. Your barley coated mewlings mean nothing to me. I think you need to go to rehab, use those resources to get some therapy and start mending your relationships.

Did you shit the bed yet you drug addict?How many lives have you destroyed? I bet you pushed your other druggies across the edge. How does that sit with you knowing you killed your friends you drug-whore?

 

[Adam Hitler]

LOL pretty sure that large Lily is the serial bed shitter around here.

Good morning Shitler! Jump on the bandwagon squirt!

Watch my pizza video you drunken old twat Lol.

 

[Breakfall]

LOL pretty sure that large Lily is the serial bed shitter around here.

Good morning Shitler! Jump on the bandwagon squirt!

Watch my pizza video you drunken old twat Lol.

Hahahahaa…I’ll try. Had too much sleep last night and it’s very early. Big day of surfing tomorrow (today). Zero alcohol.

 

[Dove]

I mean…everyone is just

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!

You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again?

Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!

When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol

Yeah, it's about you. Your ongoing alcohol problem and how you fucked up your kids.

And instead of working on your life, you sit your ass on a forum projecting your issues on strangers

Its either that or you are a predator.

You ain't shit, Break. Your barley coated mewlings mean nothing to me. I think you need to go to rehab, use those resources to get some therapy and start mending your relationships.

Did you shit the bed yet you drug addict?How many lives have you destroyed? I bet you pushed your other druggies across the edge. How does that sit with you knowing you killed your friends you drug-whore?

So Break drinks to the point of bed shitting and knows he screwed up his kids.

And now instead of taking responsibility for himself, he gets drunk and spews his issues at people on forums, blathers vile garbage and adds a laughy after it in an effort to pretend he isnt crying and angry.

Nice!

Rehab. You scared of letting go of alcohol?

 

[Breakfall]

I mean…everyone is just

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!

You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again?

Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!

When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol

Yeah, it's about you. Your ongoing alcohol problem and how you fucked up your kids.

And instead of working on your life, you sit your ass on a forum projecting your issues on strangers

Its either that or you are a predator.

You ain't shit, Break. Your barley coated mewlings mean nothing to me. I think you need to go to rehab, use those resources to get some therapy and start mending your relationships.

Did you shit the bed yet you drug addict?How many lives have you destroyed? I bet you pushed your other druggies across the edge. How does that sit with you knowing you killed your friends you drug-whore?

So Break drinks to the point of bed shitting and knows he screwed up his kids.

And now instead of taking responsibility for himself, he gets drunk and spews his issues at people on forums, blathers vile garbage and adds a laughy after it in an effort to pretend he isnt crying and angry.

Nice!

Rehab. You scared of letting go of alcohol?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….I don’t read dork!

 

[Dove]

I mean…everyone is just

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!

You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again?

Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!

When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol

Yeah, it's about you. Your ongoing alcohol problem and how you fucked up your kids.

And instead of working on your life, you sit your ass on a forum projecting your issues on strangers

Its either that or you are a predator.

You ain't shit, Break. Your barley coated mewlings mean nothing to me. I think you need to go to rehab, use those resources to get some therapy and start mending your relationships.

Did you shit the bed yet you drug addict?How many lives have you destroyed? I bet you pushed your other druggies across the edge. How does that sit with you knowing you killed your friends you drug-whore?

So Break drinks to the point of bed shitting and knows he screwed up his kids.

And now instead of taking responsibility for himself, he gets drunk and spews his issues at people on forums, blathers vile garbage and adds a laughy after it in an effort to pretend he isnt crying and angry.

Nice!

Rehab. You scared of letting go of alcohol?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….I don’t read dork!

And yet it's the only thing you are interested in. You arent posting about anything else.

You are so gut hooked you think it's the "big and dove" show even though there are so many other topics.

Js.

 

[Breakfall]

I mean…everyone is just

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!

You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again?

Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!

When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol

Yeah, it's about you. Your ongoing alcohol problem and how you fucked up your kids.

And instead of working on your life, you sit your ass on a forum projecting your issues on strangers

Its either that or you are a predator.

You ain't shit, Break. Your barley coated mewlings mean nothing to me. I think you need to go to rehab, use those resources to get some therapy and start mending your relationships.

Did you shit the bed yet you drug addict?How many lives have you destroyed? I bet you pushed your other druggies across the edge. How does that sit with you knowing you killed your friends you drug-whore?

So Break drinks to the point of bed shitting and knows he screwed up his kids.

And now instead of taking responsibility for himself, he gets drunk and spews his issues at people on forums, blathers vile garbage and adds a laughy after it in an effort to pretend he isnt crying and angry.

Nice!

Rehab. You scared of letting go of alcohol?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….I don’t read dork!

And yet it's the only thing you are interested in. You arent posting about anything else.

You are so gut hooked you think it's the "big and dove" show even though there are so many other topics.

Js.

Shhhhhhhhhh….I can’t read your tedium any longer. Get back to your family ffs!

 

[Dove]

I mean…everyone is just

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!

You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again?

Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!

When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol

Yeah, it's about you. Your ongoing alcohol problem and how you fucked up your kids.

And instead of working on your life, you sit your ass on a forum projecting your issues on strangers

Its either that or you are a predator.

You ain't shit, Break. Your barley coated mewlings mean nothing to me. I think you need to go to rehab, use those resources to get some therapy and start mending your relationships.

Did you shit the bed yet you drug addict?How many lives have you destroyed? I bet you pushed your other druggies across the edge. How does that sit with you knowing you killed your friends you drug-whore?

So Break drinks to the point of bed shitting and knows he screwed up his kids.

And now instead of taking responsibility for himself, he gets drunk and spews his issues at people on forums, blathers vile garbage and adds a laughy after it in an effort to pretend he isnt crying and angry.

Nice!

Rehab. You scared of letting go of alcohol?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….I don’t read dork!

And yet it's the only thing you are interested in. You arent posting about anything else.

You are so gut hooked you think it's the "big and dove" show even though there are so many other topics.

Js.

Shhhhhhhhhh….I can’t read your tedium any longer. Get back to your family ffs!

Break cant read my "tedium" but he keeps responding to my posts even in other parts of the forum.

And now here he is again demanding I go pick up everyone in my family and "get back to them" because I'm supposed to constantly give them nonstop attention. I shouldnt ever allow them to ever do anything that doesnt involve endless interaction with me.

My husband should quit his job so I can pay constant attention to him as well.

Cant even let them sleep. I'm supposed to dig them out of bed, give them meth so they arent tired and force them to bake cakes at 1am.

Because drunk ass Break says so.

 

[Breakfall]

I mean…everyone is just

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!

You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again?

Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!

When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol

Yeah, it's about you. Your ongoing alcohol problem and how you fucked up your kids.

And instead of working on your life, you sit your ass on a forum projecting your issues on strangers

Its either that or you are a predator.

You ain't shit, Break. Your barley coated mewlings mean nothing to me. I think you need to go to rehab, use those resources to get some therapy and start mending your relationships.

Did you shit the bed yet you drug addict?How many lives have you destroyed? I bet you pushed your other druggies across the edge. How does that sit with you knowing you killed your friends you drug-whore?

So Break drinks to the point of bed shitting and knows he screwed up his kids.

And now instead of taking responsibility for himself, he gets drunk and spews his issues at people on forums, blathers vile garbage and adds a laughy after it in an effort to pretend he isnt crying and angry.

Nice!

Rehab. You scared of letting go of alcohol?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….I don’t read dork!

And yet it's the only thing you are interested in. You arent posting about anything else.

You are so gut hooked you think it's the "big and dove" show even though there are so many other topics.

Js.

Shhhhhhhhhh….I can’t read your tedium any longer. Get back to your family ffs!

Break cant read my "tedium" but he keeps responding to my posts even in other parts of the forum.

And now here he is again demanding I go pick up everyone in my family and "get back to them" because I'm supposed to constantly give them nonstop attention. I shouldnt ever allow them to ever do anything that doesnt involve endless interaction with me.

My husband should quit his job so I can pay constant attention to him as well.

Because drunk ass Break says so.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….I can’t read your repetition any longer. Honesty you’re a stuck record. Say no to drugs…they’ll fuck up your life and all those around you. Recovery never stops! Track on…but don’t leave tracks. DRUGS….NOOOOOOOOO! Your kittehs need you, you fool.

 

[Dove]

I mean…everyone is just

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!

You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again?

Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!

When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol

Yeah, it's about you. Your ongoing alcohol problem and how you fucked up your kids.

And instead of working on your life, you sit your ass on a forum projecting your issues on strangers

Its either that or you are a predator.

You ain't shit, Break. Your barley coated mewlings mean nothing to me. I think you need to go to rehab, use those resources to get some therapy and start mending your relationships.

Did you shit the bed yet you drug addict?How many lives have you destroyed? I bet you pushed your other druggies across the edge. How does that sit with you knowing you killed your friends you drug-whore?

So Break drinks to the point of bed shitting and knows he screwed up his kids.

And now instead of taking responsibility for himself, he gets drunk and spews his issues at people on forums, blathers vile garbage and adds a laughy after it in an effort to pretend he isnt crying and angry.

Nice!

Rehab. You scared of letting go of alcohol?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….I don’t read dork!

And yet it's the only thing you are interested in. You arent posting about anything else.

You are so gut hooked you think it's the "big and dove" show even though there are so many other topics.

Js.

Shhhhhhhhhh….I can’t read your tedium any longer. Get back to your family ffs!

Break cant read my "tedium" but he keeps responding to my posts even in other parts of the forum.

And now here he is again demanding I go pick up everyone in my family and "get back to them" because I'm supposed to constantly give them nonstop attention. I shouldnt ever allow them to ever do anything that doesnt involve endless interaction with me.

My husband should quit his job so I can pay constant attention to him as well.

Because drunk ass Break says so.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….I can’t read your repetition any longer. Honesty you’re a stuck record. Say no to drugs…they’ll fuck up your life and all those around you. Recovery never stops! Track on…but don’t leave tracks. DRUGS….NOOOOOOOOO! Your kittehs need you, you fool.

And again this dumb ass "cant read" my "repition" but instead of just putting me on ignore like a sober and rational person would do he is basically spamming saying the same stupid shit over and over.

What an idiot lol

 

[Biggie Smiles]

LOL pretty sure that large Lily is the serial bed shitter around here.

Good morning Shitler! Jump on the bandwagon squirt!

Watch my pizza video you drunken old twat Lol.

Hahahahaa…I’ll try. Had too much sleep last night and it’s very early. Big day of surfing tomorrow (today). Zero alcohol.

Will you be raping any children or sniffing panties this time around you sickening degenerate ?

 

[Dove]

So we just ate dinner. Facetimed with husband and now I'm sitting on the couch while 16 and 5 year old do dishes.

About to fold some laundry.

Fucking exciting, isnt it? A rollercoaster for sure!

Is it okay my kids do chores or is that child abuse? Because I recall once talking about how I grounded one of my children for their room being trashed and that was abuse.

Should i get off the innerweb and go poke them in the back while they do dishes? Poke them and go "love you love you love you" so they can stop going through hell? Should I stop them from doing dishes and we can bake cakes? Just never clean again because it means there will be at least 30 minutes of no interaction?

What should I do? Isnt there a drunken panty sniffer to tell me what I should DO?!

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Pedofall is gonna read all that and start feeling naughty naughty

 

[Dove]

Pedofall is gonna read all that and start feeling naughty naughty

He is here to help make sure my kids literally never have another private or quiet moment again.

I'm thinking tonight....I'll pump them up with no dose and force them to make home made pasta all night with ME. I don't ever wanna be a shitty parent again!

The little one might cry a lot but she will thank me one day!!

 

[Dove]

Okay so now my 5 year old wants to play minecraft with her sister and .... without even THINKING about what a people on a forum think about that, I said .......yes.

Totally thoughtless of me. I'm shitty parent though so of course I forgot to consult a random drunk on the internet who is the savoir of my family. He knows best for my kids! I sure dont! Nor does that "guy I'm fucking now" who is on two of the birth certificates!

I'm gonna go unplug the PS4 and make them sit across from me until I figure out a non shitty parent activity and will keep my exclusive attention focused directly on them without any breaks or anything. I'll try not to blink as I stare at them.

 

[Joe]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.

You may not believe it Dovey...but a Lotta guys don't wanna get too involved with women & aren't looking for a long term commitment or relationship.

You also believe all women are gold diggers, trying to trap men with kids. Sit this one out, Joe.

Man who wants to control women deny them access to birth control abortion wants them to stay at home tells her when they ought to have sex is thought of as cruel backwards and oppressive because he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

....and yet...

Man who wants woman to have freedom to choose birth control, abortion, her partners, whether she wants to have short long term relationships with men, sex on 1st dates is thought of as devious AND oppressive because in reality he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

Which leads me ta conclude @Dove, @The Countess & @Gallium. ...

That Whichever way ya spin it..

.....a Man jes caint win!

 

[Dove]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.

You may not believe it Dovey...but a Lotta guys don't wanna get too involved with women & aren't looking for a long term commitment or relationship.

You also believe all women are gold diggers, trying to trap men with kids. Sit this one out, Joe.

Man who wants to control women deny them access to birth control abortion wants them to stay at home tells her when they ought to have sex is thought of as cruel backwards and oppressive because he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

....and yet...

Man who wants woman to have freedom to choose birth control, abortion, her partners, whether she wants to have short long term relationships with men, sex on 1st dates is thought of as devious because in reality he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

Which leads me ta conclude @Dove, @The Countess & @Gallium. ...

That Whichever way ya spin it..

.....a Man jes caint win!

Joe when men become coercive with reproduction and they try to control a woman....its to make her get an abortion.

And you still have missed my point about sex on the first date. And I dont know how. Because I've said very bluntly that if you are looking for a long term relationship it's best to not start having sex too soon because you get to emotionally invested too soon and you over look warning signs and red flags and can very easily end up in an abusive relationship.

Why is this hard to understand? Why do you keep misreading this?

 

[X]

This thread tho'

 

[Frood]

 

[Breakfall]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.

You may not believe it Dovey...but a Lotta guys don't wanna get too involved with women & aren't looking for a long term commitment or relationship.

You also believe all women are gold diggers, trying to trap men with kids. Sit this one out, Joe.

Man who wants to control women deny them access to birth control abortion wants them to stay at home tells her when they ought to have sex is thought of as cruel backwards and oppressive because he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

....and yet...

Man who wants woman to have freedom to choose birth control, abortion, her partners, whether she wants to have short long term relationships with men, sex on 1st dates is thought of as devious AND oppressive because in reality he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

Which leads me ta conclude @Dove, @The Countess & @Gallium. ...

That Whichever way ya spin it..

.....a Man jes caint win!

Joe…I don’t know why you have included me in this, because I have been the least controlling person in any relationship. In fact the only chick that accused me of being controlling is onto her 5th husband.

I’m a lovable chap with an infectious personality. Viva womanhood…

 

[Joe]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.

You may not believe it Dovey...but a Lotta guys don't wanna get too involved with women & aren't looking for a long term commitment or relationship.

You also believe all women are gold diggers, trying to trap men with kids. Sit this one out, Joe.

Man who wants to control women deny them access to birth control abortion wants them to stay at home tells her when they ought to have sex is thought of as cruel backwards and oppressive because he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

....and yet...

Man who wants woman to have freedom to choose birth control, abortion, her partners, whether she wants to have short long term relationships with men, sex on 1st dates is thought of as devious AND oppressive because in reality he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

Which leads me ta conclude @Dove, @The Countess & @Gallium. ...

That Whichever way ya spin it..

.....a Man jes caint win!

Joe…I don’t know why you have included me in this, because I have been the least controlling person in any relationship. In fact the only chick that accused me of being controlling is onto her 5th husband.

I’m a lovable chap with an infectious personality. Viva womanhood…

I think I gotta be more ruthless & cunning in my exchanges in this thread like you @Gallium.

I kin see if that if a guy is too soft wid da womanz they'll end up devouring im.

I gather that a guy can never really find a meeting point or middle ground with em.

 

[Frood]

Me, @Blazor , @The Prowler , @deport_liberals , @Oerdin, @Bastard Factory , @Lokmar , @Biggie Smiles , @realgrimm , and a few others don't seem to have issues with the wimminz folk...

We must of had Alpha mums and dads....

 

[The Prowler]

Sometimes I wonder if Liar @Joe understands English.

 

[Joe]

Sometimes I wonder if Liar @Joe understands English.

Hey ya Gaslighter how goes it?

Just ta let ya know it's wet rainy, cold & miserable on the West Coast right now.

...and that is not a lie!




Hope that satisfies your need for schadenfreude @The Prowler!

 

[Biggie Smiles]

He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.

Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.

Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"

I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!

Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.

You may not believe it Dovey...but a Lotta guys don't wanna get too involved with women & aren't looking for a long term commitment or relationship.

You also believe all women are gold diggers, trying to trap men with kids. Sit this one out, Joe.

Man who wants to control women deny them access to birth control abortion wants them to stay at home tells her when they ought to have sex is thought of as cruel backwards and oppressive because he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

....and yet...

Man who wants woman to have freedom to choose birth control, abortion, her partners, whether she wants to have short long term relationships with men, sex on 1st dates is thought of as devious AND oppressive because in reality he is pushing a male domination agenda on them.

Which leads me ta conclude @Dove, @The Countess & @Gallium. ...

That Whichever way ya spin it..

.....a Man jes caint win!

Joe…I don’t know why you have included me in this, because I have been the least controlling person in any relationship. In fact the only chick that accused me of being controlling is onto her 5th husband.

I’m a lovable chap with an infectious personality. Viva womanhood…

THe sniffing little girl panties and these vivid depictions of sex with children isn't a good look for you tho

just sayin

 

[Dove]

Sometimes I wonder if Liar @Joe understands English.

I think he skims posts and just assumes what is being said.

 

[The Countess]

Me, @Blazor , @The Prowler , @deport_liberals , @Oerdin, @Bastard Factory , @Lokmar , @Biggie Smiles , @realgrimm , and a few others don't seem to have issues with the wimminz folk...

We must of had Alpha mums and dads....

The Prowler??? All he does is attack women and children. Hello?

 

[The Countess]

None of the kid stuff is gonna stop till ALL OF YOU stop. One does it, then some comes along and does it nastier. Never ending cycle