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Did I just read baby girls nickname in all of this? Why is this child getting personally dragged in this?

Breaky, we’ve known each other for a long time. You’ve always DEFENDED against that type of filth. Who is in your ear, cuz this ain’t you.

Yes he is bringing up my Squish and being vile. Trashing my family constantly.

He is just a shitty drunk, is all.
 
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Notice all the clues he provided on this alleged "11 year old troll"

so basically there are people around these parts that know of his sickening fetish involving children for 11 years

oh boy and seamajor thought he got it bad?

I'm most certainly just starting to get warmed up on this clown

fo sure

Did maw tell ya that? Did she kick your ass out at the same time? Loser Dwarf


Notice all the clues he provided on this alleged "11 year old troll"

so basically there are people around these parts that know of his sickening fetish involving children for 11 years

oh boy and seamajor thought he got it bad?

I'm most certainly just starting to get warmed up on this clown

fo sure


I can tell the dwarf is at the end of his rope. When can I post your photo Stubby. The laugh of the century.

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!

Dwarf, Dwarf, Dwarf!!!

Snarf! Snarf! Snarf!
 

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Not always, although it occur, especially if you’ve got a few dollars, or Colones
He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.


Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.


Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"


I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.


I dunno Dovey. ..I think you make a mountain out of a molehill.

For such a tiny woman you have a large imagination.

Here's another tribute/version to the 1 night stand




.....better n the original!


Well Joe if you understood what I was saying.....we wouldnt be miscommunicating.

I mean.....who said anything about one night stands? How do you turn what I said into a thing about one night stands?

Joe.....did you even read what I said? Be honest.


You may not believe it Dovey...but a Lotta guys don't wanna get too involved with women & aren't looking for a long term commitment or relationship.



You also believe all women are gold diggers, trying to trap men with kids. Sit this one out, Joe.


Many are. Especially if you’ve got some $$$$$. Certainly not all.
 

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Notice all the clues he provided on this alleged "11 year old troll"

so basically there are people around these parts that know of his sickening fetish involving children for 11 years

oh boy and seamajor thought he got it bad?

I'm most certainly just starting to get warmed up on this clown

fo sure

Did maw tell ya that? Did she kick your ass out at the same time? Loser Dwarf


Notice all the clues he provided on this alleged "11 year old troll"

so basically there are people around these parts that know of his sickening fetish involving children for 11 years

oh boy and seamajor thought he got it bad?

I'm most certainly just starting to get warmed up on this clown

fo sure


I can tell the dwarf is at the end of his rope. When can I post your photo Stubby. The laugh of the century.

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!

Dwarf, Dwarf, Dwarf!!!

Snarf! Snarf! Snarf!

DD and Frank
 

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Not every woman is trying to trap men for money. This is a constant thing with Joe. Him and all his unhappy friends stuck with kids in an unhappy marriage. Joe is always lending them money :facepalm:
 

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FYI quick role call of the Dovey residence.....since its 10:23am on a Sunday.

We cooked and had breakfast and my 16 year old took my 5 year old with her to go babysitting for the next 7 hours because one of the kids she babysits is Squishes age and they love eachother.

My adult daughter is back at her girlfriend house where she mostly stays to finish her senior year without changing districts. Yesterday though she was here and she drove me around to errands and we all went out to lunch(she loves to drive).

Mom is sleeping. Husband working. And im baking apple bread and doing laundry.

Does this give me permission to be online or not? Are my children doomed because my exclusive attention isnt focused directly on them every second of every day even at 1am when Break demands I drag my family out of bed and bake cakes lest i be a "shitty parent" :LOL3:
 

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Did I just read baby girls nickname in all of this? Why is this child getting personally dragged in this?

Breaky, we’ve known each other for a long time. You’ve always DEFENDED against that type of filth. Who is in your ear, cuz this ain’t you.

Yes he is bringing up my Squish and being vile. Trashing my family constantly.

He is just a shitty drunk, is all.


I feel like I know her personally, so this really bothers me. She’s so precious, with her angel looking self.
 

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Did I just read baby girls nickname in all of this? Why is this child getting personally dragged in this?

Breaky, we’ve known each other for a long time. You’ve always DEFENDED against that type of filth. Who is in your ear, cuz this ain’t you.

Yes he is bringing up my Squish and being vile. Trashing my family constantly.

He is just a shitty drunk, is all.


I feel like I know her personally, so this really bothers me. She’s so precious, with her angel looking self.

My family is already being led and cared for by a much better.....and sober man.

Not sure what a random alcoholic from a troll board thinks he should be entitled to offer us besides LuLz and possible trauma but he keeps blathering about my children "going through hell" and how he needs to "say what needs to be said".

It's a compulsion and I'm starting to suspect a sinister and perverted motive.

And we know who is in his ear **coughPlanetOinkcough** he is using that narrative.
 
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Not every woman is trying to trap men for money. This is a constant thing with Joe. Him and all his unhappy friends stuck with kids in an unhappy marriage. Joe is always lending them money :facepalm:

They should have held off on the sex than so they were more likely to respond to the red flags.

That's just another point in my column right there lol
 

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Did I just read baby girls nickname in all of this? Why is this child getting personally dragged in this?

Breaky, we’ve known each other for a long time. You’ve always DEFENDED against that type of filth. Who is in your ear, cuz this ain’t you.
Oak. Obviously
 

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The vivid detail of pedofall’s fantasies were sickening

is that the kind of shit he and the cow discuss on the phone while they’re getting each other off?

disgusting
 

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Did I just read baby girls nickname in all of this? Why is this child getting personally dragged in this?

Breaky, we’ve known each other for a long time. You’ve always DEFENDED against that type of filth. Who is in your ear, cuz this ain’t you.

Yes he is bringing up my Squish and being vile. Trashing my family constantly.

He is just a shitty drunk, is all.


I feel like I know her personally, so this really bothers me. She’s so precious, with her angel looking self.

My family is already being led and cared for by a much better.....and sober man.

Not sure what a random alcoholic from a troll board thinks he should be entitled to offer us besides LuLz and possible trauma but he keeps blathering about my children "going through hell" and how he needs to "say what needs to be said".

It's a compulsion and I'm starting to suspect a sinister and perverted motive.

And we know who is in his ear **coughPlanetOinkcough** he is using that narrative.


Your hub is a very good guy. Don’t even discuss them here anymore. Not when you have folks twisting it into something so vile.
 

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Did I just read baby girls nickname in all of this? Why is this child getting personally dragged in this?

Breaky, we’ve known each other for a long time. You’ve always DEFENDED against that type of filth. Who is in your ear, cuz this ain’t you.

Yes he is bringing up my Squish and being vile. Trashing my family constantly.

He is just a shitty drunk, is all.


I feel like I know her personally, so this really bothers me. She’s so precious, with her angel looking self.

My family is already being led and cared for by a much better.....and sober man.

Not sure what a random alcoholic from a troll board thinks he should be entitled to offer us besides LuLz and possible trauma but he keeps blathering about my children "going through hell" and how he needs to "say what needs to be said".

It's a compulsion and I'm starting to suspect a sinister and perverted motive.

And we know who is in his ear **coughPlanetOinkcough** he is using that narrative.


Your hub is a very good guy. Don’t even discuss them here anymore. Not when you have folks twisting it into something so vile.

I mean.....I put two on ignore because they are disgusting trying to use my family to attack me. This guy is just a vile alcoholic.

I really pity people who do this kind of thing. What it really is is a play by play of themselves.

I dont even have to discuss them for these drunks to bring them up. Break has been up in politcal and general threads going off topic to whine about me posting about my "personal life" and how no one wants to read about my "personal life", and by "personal life" he isnt talking about what I actually post about (the car. The cats. The pipes. Squish coming home sick....that kinda stuff) he is thread jacking squealing about how tired he is of me posting about Poofer and Big......when I dont even post about them. I actually directly asked Break WHAT I have said that makes him think my "personal life" is all this blather he spews. No answer, of course.

Did you see when he started telling Big that Big should go KILL Poofer? Like kill him DEAD? All over posts on a forum?

Then he starts telling me to go bake cakes with my kids at 2am on school nights and that I'm a shit mom for letting them sleep when I should be slowly killing them with constant and unwavering attention.

No rest for my family. Break wants me to literally never do anything ever that doesnt involve me staring at them. No friends. No nights at Babas. No free play. No games. No more walks with sisters. No sleep. No private showers. Constant. Direct. Attention. If I'm not on top of them 24/7 I'm a shitty parent.

I let my 16 year old baby sit for a neighbor so there are hours of neglect on my behalf where I should be forcing her to stay home so I can give her constant attention. I let her take her little sister with her so she could play with the other little girl. I hope CPS doesnt find out that there have been several hours today where my kids were existing with out my eye ball glued to them.

And yes.....I am the queen of sarcasm lol
 

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He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.
People are tired of reading your long-winded and inaccurate tripe. Just go spend some quality time with your kids instead of hanging out here with your cuck ex boyfriend. You’re a shitty parent! God bless you xxx
:GiggleBitch:

Firstly, they can use the ignore feature.

Secondly, there you go again obsessing over private lives.

Break do you think you have credibility discussing my parenting?

A strange man on the internet who constantly brings up minor children is probably a pervert.

And hey.....my kids still talk to me and none of them use drugs or date abusers. So....not sure you have the nessesary cred to call someone doing a better job than you a "shitty parent".

Sober up and fix your broken relationship with your daughter.....anytime you find yourself thinking about other peoples kids? Stop yourself and mind your own.

Js.
Dove…you’re a recovering drug addict and your children have been through hell and back. You’re not the full quid. If you spent as much time with your family as you did on online forums, maybe your parenting wouldn’t be so questionable. Grow up and be there for them instead of hanging out with your cuck ex lover Biggie the paedophile. It’s not rocket science….

...maybe like 'Lady Madonna ' @Gallium?

 

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He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.


Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.


Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"


I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!
:LOL3:
 

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He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.


Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.


Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"


I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!
:LOL3:


You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.
 

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He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.
People are tired of reading your long-winded and inaccurate tripe. Just go spend some quality time with your kids instead of hanging out here with your cuck ex boyfriend. You’re a shitty parent! God bless you xxx
:GiggleBitch:

Firstly, they can use the ignore feature.

Secondly, there you go again obsessing over private lives.

Break do you think you have credibility discussing my parenting?

A strange man on the internet who constantly brings up minor children is probably a pervert.

And hey.....my kids still talk to me and none of them use drugs or date abusers. So....not sure you have the nessesary cred to call someone doing a better job than you a "shitty parent".

Sober up and fix your broken relationship with your daughter.....anytime you find yourself thinking about other peoples kids? Stop yourself and mind your own.

Js.
Dove…you’re a recovering drug addict and your children have been through hell and back. You’re not the full quid. If you spent as much time with your family as you did on online forums, maybe your parenting wouldn’t be so questionable. Grow up and be there for them instead of hanging out with your cuck ex lover Biggie the paedophile. It’s not rocket science….

...maybe like 'Lady Madonna ' @Gallium?


You’ve got to be kidding! Lol
 

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He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.


Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.


Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"


I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!
:LOL3:


You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again? :GiggleBitch:
 

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He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.


Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.


Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"


I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!
:LOL3:


You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again? :GiggleBitch:


Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.
 

Breakfall

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He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.


Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.


Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"


I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!
:LOL3:


You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again? :GiggleBitch:


Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!:Sucky Sucky:
 

Dove

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He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.


Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.


Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"


I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!
:LOL3:


You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again? :GiggleBitch:


Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!:Sucky Sucky:


When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

I hope wet brain isnt setting in.
 

Breakfall

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He is insecure (as noted by how often he feels the need to reference his education or how he is physically attractive or where he has been in the world in discussions).

....if you don't mind me saying this. ...I think you're loaded with insecurities yourself @Dove.

Your response about having sex on a first date with your current husband reached this odd crescendo of self defensiveNess.

And I wasn't upset so much as puzzled as to why you responded like that.

Cripes nobody is asking you to provide a ratonal as to why you chose to have sex on a first date. Plus I found it contradictory that if you did it why you disapprove of others doing it. Personally I don't give a hoot about your actions or others in that regard.

In addition nobody demands that you or any other woman/girl be forced or pressured into having sex with a stranger. I don't condone it but don't condemn it either. And you can wait til the 2nd date, 3rd date or hey...never. that what sexual freedom is about. Giving the woman the ability to set her boundaries and make da rules.

Maybe what irks you about this issue is there is no right or wrong good or bad either. This is a problem I find among conservatives. They see everything as a black and white issue and nothing in between.

I also find North American Anglo culture in Canada and the States to be very uptight where sexual mores are concerned.

I think you should put effort into understanding what people are saying.

Perhaps go back and actually read what I'm saying. Because you are way far off base. I actually think it's your insecurities causing you to misread me entirely.

I mean you are so defensive you dont even understand what's being said and you think I'm admonishing people for doing something I did. Total nonsense.

Address what I'm actually saying. Not what you are assuming I'm saying.

I guess @Dove y when i 'm getting tired of our stifling politically correct North American culture which is laced with hysteria, double standards & false morality which pushes this guilt trip on men & women alike. A culture & an overzealous morality gone mad.

Here's an example:




A young woman engaged in what she thought was a consensual encounter with an underage male & she got nailed hard and is noW on a sex offenders list as a 'predator'. Essentially it was just a fling.

I mean good fucking grief. We used ta snicker at this sorta thing with 0 fucks given. Now sex has become a crime.

The kid shoulda been elated to have sex with a beautiful young girl like that.


Yeah but this isnt even the topic.

You have no idea what I was saying. I'm talking about personal decisions and what's best if you want to foster a healthy long term relationship and you are going off about mortality and shame and admonishment.

You are talking about something else. I'm not talki g about shame or morals. Im talking about healthy individual boundaries and how to protect yourself from toxic relationships. You are off on something else.


Yet @Dove I wonder why you went off you went off on your strange rant/tangent.

You: "I had sex with my current husband on our first date before we were married."

Me: "Oh I don't care. Totally approve. 0 fucks given."

You: "But but.....yadadayada...I don't recommend this practice even tho I Did it! It can lead to this ! Or to that! The dangers of it! Omigod..Yadadayada..."

...and so you fill up a page or 2 rationalizing your own behaviour while discouraging others from doing it.

Me: "WTF? What is this woman going on about? I thought we were merely talking casual sex on a first date. Did I miss something? Hello?"


I didnt go off on a rant at all. I was talking about our first date anniversary that's coming up and how my husband suggested we relive it.

You isolated the part about having sex on a first date and how you approve of the practice. And living together and such.

I simply disagreed and went into why you should put off having sex if you are wanting a long term commitment because sex will interfere with your ability to make good judgements.

I wasnt ranting, or admonishing, or giving any double standards. In fact I know from experience what I'm saying. I would NEVER have gotten married to my daughters father had I waited and gotten to know him more. I looked over and excused all kinds of red flags. It was too serious too fast. A lot of people will tell you they saw the red flags but gaslit themselves ....and I'm sure it's because they were having sex and forming that chemical bond. I fell into the same trap so many others fall into. I'm not preaching or berating.

I'm not talking about culture or attitudes about sex either. I talking about making personal decisions that are in your own best interest so you can have the best outcomes......if you just want to get laid, sure go get laid. Its definately not hard. But if you want to build a long term relationship it's worth waiting.

You seem to be reading all this judgement into my posts that isnt there.

Jesus….shut the fuck up for once in your shitty life. Go take care of your numerous fucking cats at least!
:LOL3:


You should go to rehab, Break. Clearly you are trying to numb out your own life with alcohol and projection.

Shut up you drug-addled skank. Did you shit the bed again? :GiggleBitch:


Again?

So you drink to the point of shitting your bed? Gross.

REHAB.

Eeeeeeeeeew….skank!:Sucky Sucky:


When you get the "goal card" from a sponsor.....one of your sober goals should be sharpening your wit.

Then you could actually lay some burns instead of the constant meltdowns and cry fests.

I mean......I've been called much worse by better people.

Do you think you are insulting me?

Excuse me skank…..your words bounce! This is about bad parenting, drugs and e-lovers. Oh you silly whore. Lololol