I'm Sorry But I Just Don't Get It

[Alticus]

From what I understand Iran is funding these terrorists attacking Israel and causing trouble. Why aren't they being attacked and dealt with? I know that the US and Israel can't like nuke Iran into next year, but it seems that Iran is freely doing whatever they want. Isn't there some way to sanction them and take away their money or a targeted attack on their critical government buildings? Y'know, cut off the head and burn the stump so it doesn't grow back type thing?

 

[Admin.]

 

[LotusBud]

From what I understand Iran is funding these terrorists attacking Israel and causing trouble. Why aren't they being attacked and dealt with? I know that the US and Israel can't like nuke Iran into next year, but it seems that Iran is freely doing whatever they want. Isn't there some way to sanction them and take away their money or a targeted attack on their critical government buildings? Y'know, cut off the head and burn the stump so it doesn't grow back type thing?

Maybe we should do that to Israel first. They're the ones occupying territory illegal, killing people right and left, and getting billions upon billions of dollars of aid from the US with no restrictions on how many people they kill with that aid.

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

Leave the sandbox to the rats. Pull all aid and all business entanglements from all parties in the region, go back to being energy-independent, and let the region sort itself out.

Then nuke it from orbit.

Then gather up all the diaspora of those countries and send them to that glass parking lot.

And nuke it again.

 

[Lily]

From what I understand Iran is funding these terrorists attacking Israel and causing trouble. Why aren't they being attacked and dealt with? I know that the US and Israel can't like nuke Iran into next year, but it seems that Iran is freely doing whatever they want. Isn't there some way to sanction them and take away their money or a targeted attack on their critical government buildings? Y'know, cut off the head and burn the stump so it doesn't grow back type thing?

We have sanctioned them, severely. It only hurts the Iranian people. The problem Iran has with us, and other Middle Eastern countries as well, is that we've intervened in their countries for decades, the US starting after WW2...but before then it was the British partitioning land according to British interests after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, along with US participation in that as well.

Setting up Israel on land Palestinians have been living on for many hundreds of years just added fuel to the fire. Supporting Hezbollah is how they push back on Israeli encroachment into taking more and more land from Muslims.
They perceive the West as a threat to them.

 

[The Scoundrel]

Fuckin blowing motherfuckers dicks off by exploding their pagers was the funniest act of war I've ever seen.

I've stopped putting my phone in my pants pocket.

 

[Fantom]

Isn't there some way to sanction them

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targeted attack on their critical government buildings? Y'know, cut off the head and burn the stump so it doesn't grow back type thing?

This is how power vacuums open and might lead to the destabilization of the middle east as a whole.

 

[Garraty_47]

weaponizing sanctions --> BRICS/etc. --> de-dollarization --> USA loses its economic leverage --> more global militarism and domestic austerity --> rampant population unrest --> escalating authoritarianism



Yeah, let's keep doing THAT!

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

You don't stop a dogfight by punishing just one dog. And nobody can fill a power vacuum when there's nothing left to wield power over.

 

[Fantom]

weaponizing sanctions

The entire purpose of Sanctions is for them to be weapons. Specifically they hinder a nation's growth in the long run.

USA loses its economic leverage

USA is too big to fail at this point. Might not be #1 economic power forever, but it will be top 5 if not top 3 for the foreseeable future (large agricultural base, largely energy independent, huge tech sector, highly competitive domestic economy and huge international corporstions, etc.)

more global militarism

US can't finance anymore and now China and Russia are significant enough rivals to prevent this, nothing like 91-2016.

BRICS/etc.

BRICS nation's have nothing in common except for their interest in having a reserve currency that surpasses the dollar in it's international purchasing power. The nation's in BRICS either don't have an economy big enough to do this (South Africa, Russia, Brazil, India), blew their chance (China, Russia) or won't have a chance to do this for a very long time (Brazil, India).

escalating authoritarianism

All I have to say about this is good luck having it happen in a liberalised western democracy in the information age. Not impossible though.

 

[Garraty_47]

Sanctions are supposed to be a way to isolate/punish rogue nations (like "Israel"), not as war-by-another-means against any nation who disobeys the USA or merely looks at us funny. THAT'S weaponization. Freezing or seizing assets just because we don't like a nation's government is theft. Starving and/or depriving a nation's civilian populace in the hope it'll foment regime change just because we don't like their government is a fucking war crime, a crime against humanity.

The USA/NATO are this timeline's supervillains and it's past time the international community stopped them from terrorizing and exploiting the rest of the planet.

As for the remainder of your assertions...
...get better "news" sources.
You're being fed a lot of 100% Grade A star-spangled bullshit and unless you want to pay me to de-program you I don't have the time or inclination to undertake a project of that magnitude.

 

[X]

Do you like wake up and think how can I bore the masses moar than yesterday ? ffs you’re a professional

 

[Lily]

Do you like wake up and think how can I bore the masses moar than yesterday ? ffs you’re a professional

He told @Blandscape that he was done discussing politics and war.

So much for that lie.

 

[Larry Loungelizard]

Sanctions are supposed to be a way to isolate/punish rogue nations (like "Israel"), not as war-by-another-means against any nation who disobeys the USA or merely looks at us funny. THAT'S weaponization. Freezing or seizing assets just because we don't like a nation's government is theft. Starving and/or depriving a nation's civilian populace in the hope it'll foment regime change just because we don't like their government is a fucking war crime, a crime against humanity.

The USA/NATO are this timeline's supervillains and it's past time the international community stopped them from terrorizing and exploiting the rest of the planet.

As for the remainder of your assertions...
...get better "news" sources.
You're being fed a lot of 100% Grade A star-spangled bullshit and unless you want to pay me to de-program you I don't have the time or inclination to undertake a project of that magnitude.

TL, DR.

 

[Blandscape]

From what I understand Iran is funding these terrorists attacking Israel and causing trouble. Why aren't they being attacked and dealt with? I know that the US and Israel can't like nuke Iran into next year, but it seems that Iran is freely doing whatever they want. Isn't there some way to sanction them and take away their money or a targeted attack on their critical government buildings? Y'know, cut off the head and burn the stump so it doesn't grow back type thing?

Oh ffs Alt.

Stop fucking embarrassing me fur liking ye!

 

[Blandscape]

As a nice guy who owns a drinks cabinet.

 

[Alticus]

Oh ffs Alt.

Stop fucking embarrassing me fur liking ye!

I'm telling you my friend politics is not my bag. That's why I posting such threads. lol

 

[Seamajor]

I believe this situation will exist for another thousand years. Like the drug crisis in Merica.

 

[Blandscape]

I believe this situation will exist for another thousand years. Like the drug crisis in Merica.

Or a third Reich.

 

[Seamajor]

Some things will never change.
War in the Middle East.
Mericas love for hard drugs
Immigration and the desperate need for a work force.

I could go on but it tends to piss others off.

 

[Garraty_47]

People who say "I don't care about politics" are essentially sitting in the middle of a burning room and saying "Meh, I don't really care about fire."

By the time you realize you damn well should it may be too late.

 

[Fantom]

Sanctions are supposed to be a way to isolate/punish rogue nations

Sanctions aren't "supposed" to be anything. They are used for whatever purpose the issuers see fit. As I previously said the purpose for most sanctions is to hinder the growth of another nation so that their economy is, in the future, outmatched by others and can no longer compete in international trade.

Freezing or seizing assets just because we don't like a nation's government is theft. Starving and/or depriving a nation's civilian populace in the hope it'll foment regime change just because we don't like their government is a fucking war crime, a crime against humanity.

The USA/NATO are this timeline's supervillains and it's past time the international community stopped them from terrorizing and exploiting the rest of the planet.

You ever read The Prince?

States act in order to secure themselves. Any nation in the position of the USA/ EU would do the same. Hence why the UK, French, Ottomans, Mughals, Persians, Qing, Abbasids, etc. all expanded their borders and formed empires. That is how a state becomes secure.

 

[RANCIDMILKO ™ ®©]

Ahhh fuck this I can't come up with anything better than "Fuck this insane asylum"

Nothing makes sense, it never did

This world is a badly written drama and most of the cast are non-paid actors

 

[Fantom]

THAT'S weaponization.

What did you think the main use case for sanctions was?

 

[Admin.]

Things are more like they are now, than they have ever been.

 

[RANCIDMILKO ™ ®©]

Things are more like they are now, than they have ever been.

Things are what they are because if they had to be somewhat different they'd be something else.

 

[Garraty_47]

What did you think the main use case for sanctions was?

Scroll up and read it again.

This time for comprehension.

 

[Larry Loungelizard]

People who say "I don't care about politics" are essentially sitting in the middle of a burning room and saying "Meh, I don't really care about fire."

By the time you realize you damn well should it may be too late.

Ok, for the record, I would care way more about politics if every election cycle had better choices than choosing either an idiot or a moron. I don't expect rocket scientists to be available, but, HOLY CRAP, the options in the past couple of decades have been nothing but WHAT THE ACTUAL SHIT?!?!?

 

[LotusBud]

Fuckin blowing motherfuckers dicks off by exploding their pagers was the funniest act of war I've ever seen.

I've stopped putting my phone in my pants pocket.

Yeah. War is a real laugh riot. Particularly when there's a lot of collateral damage -- especially involving children.