Severe affordable housing crisis in the US

[Joe]

Your preferred method of choice is called gaslighting @The Prowler. You are a gaslighter Prowler.

...but not a terribly clever or subtle one....but some schmoe with too much time on his hands who lives in the frozen armpit of Canada.

You accused both @LotusBud (@Lily too?) & myself of lying but we refuted one of your points. Hence you lost an argument.

You a genius? Hardly.

More like a nasty gaslighting troll @The Prowler.

Hahaha!!!

Such a generic, meaningless response, Liar @Joe.

You said this:

Anyone who accuses others of being a Liar is always a Liar irl Prowler.

And I refuted stupid statement that with an example.

Telling a lie, makes a person a liar, Liar @Joe.

Pointing out that a liar is a liar does not make someone a liar, Liar @Joe.

Calling this "gaslighting" is yet another example of your dishonesty, Liar @Joe.

Gee Thanks @The Prowler.

I knew I could always count on you to come through for in a pinch.

 

[The Prowler]

Such a generic, meaningless response, Liar @Joe.

This seems to be applicable to many of Liar @Joe's posts.

Hahahahaha!!!!!

 

[Joe]

Such a generic, meaningless response, Liar @Joe.

This seems to be applicable to many of Liar @Joe's posts.

Hahahahaha!!!!!

Trouble is...when you accuse so many of being a 'Liar' your attacks lose their sting @The Prowler.

Take a time out and do a risk assessment when choosing your next target Prowler.

Remember, you can only bite one ankle at a time Prowler.

You have too much pent-up aggression...like an Angry Dog.

 

[The Prowler]

Liar @Joe is begging for mercy.

 

[Frood]

In the 50 largest U.S. metro areas, median rent rose an astounding 19.3% from December 2020 to December 2021, according to a

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of properties with two or fewer bedrooms. And nowhere was the jump bigger than in the Miami metro area, where the median rent exploded to $2,850, 49.8% higher than the previous year.

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I agree.

Many landlords (but certainly by no means all) are taking advantage of tenants, this situation and milking it for all its worth.

The governments should step in introduce rent controls & flood the market with low cost housing to drive rents and the cost of real estate down @LotusBud.

Rent control always results in fewer units being built while public housing has been a failure every where it has been tried. NYC has been building public housing since the 1930's yet everyone wants a free apartment so the wait list is almost 20 years long. In 90 years of trying they never once were able to keep up with demand because it just induces more demand.

Do you want the market to actually start working, like how it did from 1950 to about 1980? Tell politicians to stop blocking development. In California it is routine how politicians virtually always block all developments unless they first pay big bribes to those same politicians (as "campaign donations") and then triple prices to pay outrageous rates to union bosses. That is how it works and it is the biggest reason low cost housing can't be built.

Might work better in Canada or some small socialist state like in Scandinavia. We had something called the Canada Housing Mortgage Corporation (CHMC) which built apartments years ago.

But I can see yer point.

USA has 10x the amt of people than Canada.

California has more people than Canada.

So the demand & competition for housing is 10x worse in the States. I seem to remember now. And that was 30 yrs ago. Demand is high due to economis of scale.

There's always somebody to compete with you at something in America. A job housing business competitor whatever.

US economy population is the size of the EU.

The US should probaby be four or five countries. It's too big and too stupid to be one country.

US should probably head in that direction rather than tear each other apart.

A couple of administrative zones, 2 Supreme Courts paying for some common services like National Defense & border control to keep the riff raff out.

More along the lines of an EU.

Canada already has a 2 state solution.

Quebec & the rest of us.

I think it would need to be at the very least 3, though, because of the huge political divides and the geographic ones as well. An EU-style central body would make sense. It's just too much at this point. No civil war required. Just a peaceful splitting apart, and let Washington be that place where the countries' reps gather to make common legislation and divvy up resources.

Only the right can't exist without the tax base that the left and blue states provide.

You moron.

 

[Frood]

I really liked living in FL. I definately got "winter sick". That's what they call it when you miss the seasons. Here in Michigan we get all 4 seasons. In Florida....its just hot, and hotter lol. I wasnt so much "home sick" but I really missed autumn. It's my favorite season. The whole flow of the seasons is what I missed.

Yeah, we would not live in Florida during autumn. We get a similar autumn to you and it is my wife's favourite season. The best time for long hikes with the dog.

A Florida home would be just to get away during the cold months. But it really is all up in the air. Before we do anything, we need to spend some time in the different areas and make sure we like it. There are small towns all around us that we know we like, so there is a good chance that we will just stick close to where we are for our main house. There is no rush to leave our current house. No matter what, the Florida house would just be for the winter...maybe the tail end of autumn or beginning of spring.

If love the smells, colours, and weather of a Michigan autumn.

It can't be beat....the whole excitement and general atmosphere....

 

[Biggie Smiles]

In the 50 largest U.S. metro areas, median rent rose an astounding 19.3% from December 2020 to December 2021, according to a

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of properties with two or fewer bedrooms. And nowhere was the jump bigger than in the Miami metro area, where the median rent exploded to $2,850, 49.8% higher than the previous year.

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I agree.

Many landlords (but certainly by no means all) are taking advantage of tenants, this situation and milking it for all its worth.

The governments should step in introduce rent controls & flood the market with low cost housing to drive rents and the cost of real estate down @LotusBud.

Rent control always results in fewer units being built while public housing has been a failure every where it has been tried. NYC has been building public housing since the 1930's yet everyone wants a free apartment so the wait list is almost 20 years long. In 90 years of trying they never once were able to keep up with demand because it just induces more demand.

Do you want the market to actually start working, like how it did from 1950 to about 1980? Tell politicians to stop blocking development. In California it is routine how politicians virtually always block all developments unless they first pay big bribes to those same politicians (as "campaign donations") and then triple prices to pay outrageous rates to union bosses. That is how it works and it is the biggest reason low cost housing can't be built.

Might work better in Canada or some small socialist state like in Scandinavia. We had something called the Canada Housing Mortgage Corporation (CHMC) which built apartments years ago.

But I can see yer point.

USA has 10x the amt of people than Canada.

California has more people than Canada.

So the demand & competition for housing is 10x worse in the States. I seem to remember now. And that was 30 yrs ago. Demand is high due to economis of scale.

There's always somebody to compete with you at something in America. A job housing business competitor whatever.

US economy population is the size of the EU.

The US should probaby be four or five countries. It's too big and too stupid to be one country.

US should probably head in that direction rather than tear each other apart.

A couple of administrative zones, 2 Supreme Courts paying for some common services like National Defense & border control to keep the riff raff out.

More along the lines of an EU.

Canada already has a 2 state solution.

Quebec & the rest of us.

I think it would need to be at the very least 3, though, because of the huge political divides and the geographic ones as well. An EU-style central body would make sense. It's just too much at this point. No civil war required. Just a peaceful splitting apart, and let Washington be that place where the countries' reps gather to make common legislation and divvy up resources.

Only the right can't exist without the tax base that the left and blue states provide.

You moron.

The stupidity is astounding isn't it?

 

[Frood]

In the 50 largest U.S. metro areas, median rent rose an astounding 19.3% from December 2020 to December 2021, according to a

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of properties with two or fewer bedrooms. And nowhere was the jump bigger than in the Miami metro area, where the median rent exploded to $2,850, 49.8% higher than the previous year.

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I agree.

Many landlords (but certainly by no means all) are taking advantage of tenants, this situation and milking it for all its worth.

The governments should step in introduce rent controls & flood the market with low cost housing to drive rents and the cost of real estate down @LotusBud.

Rent control always results in fewer units being built while public housing has been a failure every where it has been tried. NYC has been building public housing since the 1930's yet everyone wants a free apartment so the wait list is almost 20 years long. In 90 years of trying they never once were able to keep up with demand because it just induces more demand.

Do you want the market to actually start working, like how it did from 1950 to about 1980? Tell politicians to stop blocking development. In California it is routine how politicians virtually always block all developments unless they first pay big bribes to those same politicians (as "campaign donations") and then triple prices to pay outrageous rates to union bosses. That is how it works and it is the biggest reason low cost housing can't be built.

Might work better in Canada or some small socialist state like in Scandinavia. We had something called the Canada Housing Mortgage Corporation (CHMC) which built apartments years ago.

But I can see yer point.

USA has 10x the amt of people than Canada.

California has more people than Canada.

So the demand & competition for housing is 10x worse in the States. I seem to remember now. And that was 30 yrs ago. Demand is high due to economis of scale.

There's always somebody to compete with you at something in America. A job housing business competitor whatever.

US economy population is the size of the EU.

The US should probaby be four or five countries. It's too big and too stupid to be one country.

US should probably head in that direction rather than tear each other apart.

A couple of administrative zones, 2 Supreme Courts paying for some common services like National Defense & border control to keep the riff raff out.

More along the lines of an EU.

Canada already has a 2 state solution.

Quebec & the rest of us.

I think it would need to be at the very least 3, though, because of the huge political divides and the geographic ones as well. An EU-style central body would make sense. It's just too much at this point. No civil war required. Just a peaceful splitting apart, and let Washington be that place where the countries' reps gather to make common legislation and divvy up resources.

Only the right can't exist without the tax base that the left and blue states provide.

You moron.

The stupidity is astounding isn't it?

It's absolutely bizarre what these big taxing/regulating and even bigger spending libtards think happens in blue and red states.

I say starve the grubby fuckers out.... no commodities.... no food..... no diverted waters....

Let them eat tax receipts!

 

[LotusBud]

In the 50 largest U.S. metro areas, median rent rose an astounding 19.3% from December 2020 to December 2021, according to a

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of properties with two or fewer bedrooms. And nowhere was the jump bigger than in the Miami metro area, where the median rent exploded to $2,850, 49.8% higher than the previous year.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

I agree.

Many landlords (but certainly by no means all) are taking advantage of tenants, this situation and milking it for all its worth.

The governments should step in introduce rent controls & flood the market with low cost housing to drive rents and the cost of real estate down @LotusBud.

Rent control always results in fewer units being built while public housing has been a failure every where it has been tried. NYC has been building public housing since the 1930's yet everyone wants a free apartment so the wait list is almost 20 years long. In 90 years of trying they never once were able to keep up with demand because it just induces more demand.

Do you want the market to actually start working, like how it did from 1950 to about 1980? Tell politicians to stop blocking development. In California it is routine how politicians virtually always block all developments unless they first pay big bribes to those same politicians (as "campaign donations") and then triple prices to pay outrageous rates to union bosses. That is how it works and it is the biggest reason low cost housing can't be built.

Might work better in Canada or some small socialist state like in Scandinavia. We had something called the Canada Housing Mortgage Corporation (CHMC) which built apartments years ago.

But I can see yer point.

USA has 10x the amt of people than Canada.

California has more people than Canada.

So the demand & competition for housing is 10x worse in the States. I seem to remember now. And that was 30 yrs ago. Demand is high due to economis of scale.

There's always somebody to compete with you at something in America. A job housing business competitor whatever.

US economy population is the size of the EU.

The US should probaby be four or five countries. It's too big and too stupid to be one country.

US should probably head in that direction rather than tear each other apart.

A couple of administrative zones, 2 Supreme Courts paying for some common services like National Defense & border control to keep the riff raff out.

More along the lines of an EU.

Canada already has a 2 state solution.

Quebec & the rest of us.

I think it would need to be at the very least 3, though, because of the huge political divides and the geographic ones as well. An EU-style central body would make sense. It's just too much at this point. No civil war required. Just a peaceful splitting apart, and let Washington be that place where the countries' reps gather to make common legislation and divvy up resources.

Only the right can't exist without the tax base that the left and blue states provide.

They would definitely suffer. It would serve them right. Give them their guns and Bibles and anti-choice laws, and let's see how they do on their own.

 

[Dove]

I really liked living in FL. I definately got "winter sick". That's what they call it when you miss the seasons. Here in Michigan we get all 4 seasons. In Florida....its just hot, and hotter lol. I wasnt so much "home sick" but I really missed autumn. It's my favorite season. The whole flow of the seasons is what I missed.

Yeah, we would not live in Florida during autumn. We get a similar autumn to you and it is my wife's favourite season. The best time for long hikes with the dog.

A Florida home would be just to get away during the cold months. But it really is all up in the air. Before we do anything, we need to spend some time in the different areas and make sure we like it. There are small towns all around us that we know we like, so there is a good chance that we will just stick close to where we are for our main house. There is no rush to leave our current house. No matter what, the Florida house would just be for the winter...maybe the tail end of autumn or beginning of spring.

If love the smells, colours, and weather of a Michigan autumn.

It can't be beat....the whole excitement and general atmosphere....

Amen.

 

[Dove]

In the 50 largest U.S. metro areas, median rent rose an astounding 19.3% from December 2020 to December 2021, according to a

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

of properties with two or fewer bedrooms. And nowhere was the jump bigger than in the Miami metro area, where the median rent exploded to $2,850, 49.8% higher than the previous year.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

I agree.

Many landlords (but certainly by no means all) are taking advantage of tenants, this situation and milking it for all its worth.

The governments should step in introduce rent controls & flood the market with low cost housing to drive rents and the cost of real estate down @LotusBud.

Rent control always results in fewer units being built while public housing has been a failure every where it has been tried. NYC has been building public housing since the 1930's yet everyone wants a free apartment so the wait list is almost 20 years long. In 90 years of trying they never once were able to keep up with demand because it just induces more demand.

Do you want the market to actually start working, like how it did from 1950 to about 1980? Tell politicians to stop blocking development. In California it is routine how politicians virtually always block all developments unless they first pay big bribes to those same politicians (as "campaign donations") and then triple prices to pay outrageous rates to union bosses. That is how it works and it is the biggest reason low cost housing can't be built.

Might work better in Canada or some small socialist state like in Scandinavia. We had something called the Canada Housing Mortgage Corporation (CHMC) which built apartments years ago.

But I can see yer point.

USA has 10x the amt of people than Canada.

California has more people than Canada.

So the demand & competition for housing is 10x worse in the States. I seem to remember now. And that was 30 yrs ago. Demand is high due to economis of scale.

There's always somebody to compete with you at something in America. A job housing business competitor whatever.

US economy population is the size of the EU.

The US should probaby be four or five countries. It's too big and too stupid to be one country.

US should probably head in that direction rather than tear each other apart.

A couple of administrative zones, 2 Supreme Courts paying for some common services like National Defense & border control to keep the riff raff out.

More along the lines of an EU.

Canada already has a 2 state solution.

Quebec & the rest of us.

I think it would need to be at the very least 3, though, because of the huge political divides and the geographic ones as well. An EU-style central body would make sense. It's just too much at this point. No civil war required. Just a peaceful splitting apart, and let Washington be that place where the countries' reps gather to make common legislation and divvy up resources.

Only the right can't exist without the tax base that the left and blue states provide.

They would definitely suffer. It would serve them right. Give them their guns and Bibles and anti-choice laws, and let's see how they do on their own.

"Anti choice" is a propaganda term.

Taking away the "choice" to kill a living human being isnt "anti choice". Make any choice you want that doesnt involve merciless killing of a helpless human being.

The entire abortion narrative is marketed garbage. I wish you would see that. It's all 100 percent about making money at the expense of human life by exploiting the fears and insecurities of women. And the abuse of women.

And considering the foundational racism involved....I mean this is just one of the many reasons why woke people do not get taken seriously.

Admin will claim the electoral college was formed to protect slavery(which is false and doesnt even make sense).....but he supports Planned Parenthood, which was literally founded in a spirit of racism. Black women were even forcibly sterilized. It was meant to get rid of the "undesirables"(black people) and to this day.....you see them in every inner city.

Go to majority white upper scale neighborhoods? You see fertility clinics.

Go to a majority black inner city? You see abortion clinics.

And its MARKETTED as "womens rights" or "choice". Its really neither. Most women getting abortions will tell you "I dont really have a choice". Choice is a very loaded word and its misused for abortion propaganda all the time.

I dont have the "choice" to kill my born kids right? By abortion logic that means I'm being forced to be a mother. This is how absurd abortion arguments are.