Why would any woman go to a male gyno

[Murdy]

mmm… I can smell the malpractice suit *sighs*

Easiest money evah. Get rich quick, if you’re not a frivolous claimant *gigglesnortz*

...seems to be all the rage these days.

There was a recent case in Canada where a woman got $373,000 or about $300,000 US dollars in damages:

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The woman, who is not identified in the court ruling, booked and paid for a massage online with We Massage on Oct. 28, 2015.
'Basic Instinct' director disputes Sharon Stone's version of infamous scene

Following a criminal trial, Martin Contreras-Ramirez, the woman’s masseur, was convicted of sexually assaulting her. In July 2017, he was sentenced to 12 months in jail.

The victim then filed her civil lawsuit in B.C. Supreme Court.

The criminal trial heard that she wanted a massage to address a shoulder injury and made inquiries as to the legitimacy of the massage service when she realized that the massage would take place in Contreras-Ramirez’s residence.

She removed all of her clothing save her underwear during the massage and got on the table on her back, covering herself with a sheet. After she had fallen asleep during the massage, she woke up to find the masseur rubbing her right breast and digitally penetrating her vagina.

The victim yelled profanities at him, got dressed quickly and left the house and got into her car, locking herself in and calling police.

When police arrived, they found her visibly upset, with one of the officers describing her as being hysterical.

“The plaintiff was a confident and outgoing woman before the assault, often out to dinners with friends, movies, parties, weekend road trips, and hosted gatherings at her house,” B.C. Supreme Court Justice Robert Punnett said in his ruling on the civil suit. “After the assault, she changed. Initially, she suffered from considerable shame and guilt, stayed home, avoided contact with others, slept and suffered a loss of appetite.”

At the time of the attack, she was employed as a military public affairs officer. But she has lost her career, having been told she will be medically released from the Canadian Armed Forces this summer.

“The plaintiff deposes that from the time she was 15 she wanted to join the Canadian Armed Forces and directed her efforts to that goal,” said the judge. “As that career has been brought to an end, she struggles with her identity and her prospects.”

...I wonder how much of it is real damage or just hysteria from plaintiffs trying to get the most out of these settlements.

If a woman is sexually assaulted, the trauma is real, period. The only real question is whether she lied about the assault. Judging from personal experience, there is a shit ton of sexual predators out there, so the odds are that the woman is telling the truth, even though here and there you'll find a sadistic or money-hungry liar. My personal experience is the reason I would never, ever go to a male gyno. Not saying that most are predators, but there is always one lurking somewhere nearby. ALWAYS.

I practiced tort law for 18 years before I switched practice areas. Most of the women who made accusations against a medical provider suffered from numerous mental health issues and none of the claims were ever brought to economic fruition. Doctors are required to have staff present for exams of this nature and for good reason. I’m not saying that there aren’t bad doctors who do this… but they are gambling with their license to practice. I’m saying it’s minimal in comparison to the psychotic delusions of the opportunistic.

Well, in the cases I know about, the men have been accused by literally dozens of women. I don't believe that many women are making this shit up about one man. I really don't. Doctors are supposed to have staff present, but in my experience, they very often don't.

It’s your responsibility as the patient to ask for staff to be present if they don’t provide that. It’s your legal right. It’s mind boggling that people don’t know this.

 

[LotusBud]

mmm… I can smell the malpractice suit *sighs*

Easiest money evah. Get rich quick, if you’re not a frivolous claimant *gigglesnortz*

...seems to be all the rage these days.

There was a recent case in Canada where a woman got $373,000 or about $300,000 US dollars in damages:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

The woman, who is not identified in the court ruling, booked and paid for a massage online with We Massage on Oct. 28, 2015.
'Basic Instinct' director disputes Sharon Stone's version of infamous scene

Following a criminal trial, Martin Contreras-Ramirez, the woman’s masseur, was convicted of sexually assaulting her. In July 2017, he was sentenced to 12 months in jail.

The victim then filed her civil lawsuit in B.C. Supreme Court.

The criminal trial heard that she wanted a massage to address a shoulder injury and made inquiries as to the legitimacy of the massage service when she realized that the massage would take place in Contreras-Ramirez’s residence.

She removed all of her clothing save her underwear during the massage and got on the table on her back, covering herself with a sheet. After she had fallen asleep during the massage, she woke up to find the masseur rubbing her right breast and digitally penetrating her vagina.

The victim yelled profanities at him, got dressed quickly and left the house and got into her car, locking herself in and calling police.

When police arrived, they found her visibly upset, with one of the officers describing her as being hysterical.

“The plaintiff was a confident and outgoing woman before the assault, often out to dinners with friends, movies, parties, weekend road trips, and hosted gatherings at her house,” B.C. Supreme Court Justice Robert Punnett said in his ruling on the civil suit. “After the assault, she changed. Initially, she suffered from considerable shame and guilt, stayed home, avoided contact with others, slept and suffered a loss of appetite.”

At the time of the attack, she was employed as a military public affairs officer. But she has lost her career, having been told she will be medically released from the Canadian Armed Forces this summer.

“The plaintiff deposes that from the time she was 15 she wanted to join the Canadian Armed Forces and directed her efforts to that goal,” said the judge. “As that career has been brought to an end, she struggles with her identity and her prospects.”

...I wonder how much of it is real damage or just hysteria from plaintiffs trying to get the most out of these settlements.

If a woman is sexually assaulted, the trauma is real, period. The only real question is whether she lied about the assault. Judging from personal experience, there is a shit ton of sexual predators out there, so the odds are that the woman is telling the truth, even though here and there you'll find a sadistic or money-hungry liar. My personal experience is the reason I would never, ever go to a male gyno. Not saying that most are predators, but there is always one lurking somewhere nearby. ALWAYS.

I practiced tort law for 18 years before I switched practice areas. Most of the women who made accusations against a medical provider suffered from numerous mental health issues and none of the claims were ever brought to economic fruition. Doctors are required to have staff present for exams of this nature and for good reason. I’m not saying that there aren’t bad doctors who do this… but they are gambling with their license to practice. I’m saying it’s minimal in comparison to the psychotic delusions of the opportunistic.

Well, in the cases I know about, the men have been accused by literally dozens of women. I don't believe that many women are making this shit up about one man. I really don't. Doctors are supposed to have staff present, but in my experience, they very often don't.

It’s your responsibility as the patient to ask for staff to be present if they don’t provide that. It’s your legal right. It’s mind boggling that people don’t know this.

Well, I don't think it's all that mind boggling. Most people think of doctors as authority figures who have their shit under control. That's a fact. A lot of people never, ever challenge a doctor.

Anyway, I have met enough predatory men in my life to have decided never to go to a male gynocologist. I don't know why anyone would. It's not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.

 

[Joe]

I hate predatory men with a passion. See, there's a difference. Just like there's a difference between a black person who is a scumbag and one who isn't. I don't paint with the broad brush of the bigot.

...and what are 'predatory men'?

Looking at a woman? Talking to them?

I've had experiences where I've been in a store talking to a sales clerk, and them some Work bitch comes over and interferes with our conversation thinking I'm up to no good.

Incidentally that sales clerk, a pretty, petite Latina woman with a big most delicious woman I’ve ever laid my eyes on! wedding band on her finger, didn't seem to feel uncomfortable or threatened by me. She seemed totally comfortable at engaging in sales talk about the store products.

Experiences I've had with such ultra-vigilant women is they're often men haters and they think we're all predators.

My own impression of such women is they're out to destroy men, in order to protect their own turf so they can get theirs.

If you hate predatory men, I hate Woke Women/feminazis just as much.

 

[Murdy]

mmm… I can smell the malpractice suit *sighs*

Easiest money evah. Get rich quick, if you’re not a frivolous claimant *gigglesnortz*

...seems to be all the rage these days.

There was a recent case in Canada where a woman got $373,000 or about $300,000 US dollars in damages:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

The woman, who is not identified in the court ruling, booked and paid for a massage online with We Massage on Oct. 28, 2015.
'Basic Instinct' director disputes Sharon Stone's version of infamous scene

Following a criminal trial, Martin Contreras-Ramirez, the woman’s masseur, was convicted of sexually assaulting her. In July 2017, he was sentenced to 12 months in jail.

The victim then filed her civil lawsuit in B.C. Supreme Court.

The criminal trial heard that she wanted a massage to address a shoulder injury and made inquiries as to the legitimacy of the massage service when she realized that the massage would take place in Contreras-Ramirez’s residence.

She removed all of her clothing save her underwear during the massage and got on the table on her back, covering herself with a sheet. After she had fallen asleep during the massage, she woke up to find the masseur rubbing her right breast and digitally penetrating her vagina.

The victim yelled profanities at him, got dressed quickly and left the house and got into her car, locking herself in and calling police.

When police arrived, they found her visibly upset, with one of the officers describing her as being hysterical.

“The plaintiff was a confident and outgoing woman before the assault, often out to dinners with friends, movies, parties, weekend road trips, and hosted gatherings at her house,” B.C. Supreme Court Justice Robert Punnett said in his ruling on the civil suit. “After the assault, she changed. Initially, she suffered from considerable shame and guilt, stayed home, avoided contact with others, slept and suffered a loss of appetite.”

At the time of the attack, she was employed as a military public affairs officer. But she has lost her career, having been told she will be medically released from the Canadian Armed Forces this summer.

“The plaintiff deposes that from the time she was 15 she wanted to join the Canadian Armed Forces and directed her efforts to that goal,” said the judge. “As that career has been brought to an end, she struggles with her identity and her prospects.”

...I wonder how much of it is real damage or just hysteria from plaintiffs trying to get the most out of these settlements.

If a woman is sexually assaulted, the trauma is real, period. The only real question is whether she lied about the assault. Judging from personal experience, there is a shit ton of sexual predators out there, so the odds are that the woman is telling the truth, even though here and there you'll find a sadistic or money-hungry liar. My personal experience is the reason I would never, ever go to a male gyno. Not saying that most are predators, but there is always one lurking somewhere nearby. ALWAYS.

I practiced tort law for 18 years before I switched practice areas. Most of the women who made accusations against a medical provider suffered from numerous mental health issues and none of the claims were ever brought to economic fruition. Doctors are required to have staff present for exams of this nature and for good reason. I’m not saying that there aren’t bad doctors who do this… but they are gambling with their license to practice. I’m saying it’s minimal in comparison to the psychotic delusions of the opportunistic.

Well, in the cases I know about, the men have been accused by literally dozens of women. I don't believe that many women are making this shit up about one man. I really don't. Doctors are supposed to have staff present, but in my experience, they very often don't.

It’s your responsibility as the patient to ask for staff to be present if they don’t provide that. It’s your legal right. It’s mind boggling that people don’t know this.

Well, I don't think it's all that mind boggling. Most people think of doctors as authority figures who have their shit under control. That's a fact. A lot of people never, ever challenge a doctor.

Anyway, I have met enough predatory men in my life to have decided never to go to a male gynocologist. I don't know why anyone would. It's not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.

I have never had an issue. I also don’t have victim mentality and carry myself like a strong, educated female would…. so I’m not a target of predators.

But I believe it’s your choice to see whatever gyno makes you feel comfortable. The same can be said with therapists and specialists alike.

 

[LotusBud]

I hate predatory men with a passion. See, there's a difference. Just like there's a difference between a black person who is a scumbag and one who isn't. I don't paint with the broad brush of the bigot.

...and what are 'predatory men'?

Looking at a woman? Talking to them?

I've had experiences where I've been in a store talking to a sales clerk in a store, and them some Work bitch comes over and interferes with our conversation thinking I'm up to no good.

Incidentally that sales clerk, a pretty, petite Latina woman with a big most delicious woman I’ve ever laid my eyes on! wedding band on her finger, didn't seem to feel uncomfortable or threatened by me. She seemed totally comfortable at engaging in sales talk about the store products.

Experiences I've had with such ultra-vigilant women is they're often men haters and they think we're all predators.

My own impression of such women is they're out to destroy men, in order to protect their own turf so they can get theirs.

If you hate predatory men, I hate Woke Women/feminazis just as much.

Joe, women do that to protect each other BECAUSE there are so many predatory men out there. You have to stop dismissing this. It's a real thing. Just because you've never done it doesn't mean other men haven't. Women who worry about being assaulted aren't feminazis. That's a very offensive accusation.

I have had my breast grabbed, my crotch grabbed, and a tongue jammed down my throat by complete strangers in broad daylight. I had a man accost me on the street and then scream and call me a bitch because I didn't agree to go out with him, when I had never seen him in my life before. I had a man pull my breast out of my shirt and carress it when I was 20 and on a job interview for a regular fucking job. I made the horrible mistake of walking into the office alone with him. I was trsuting then. I had a guy push me up against a wall, stick his tongue down my thorat and press his body against mine. I had never seen him before. Having a doctor fondle your breasts and stick his finger up your vagina when there is no reason for it to be there is assault! Try to understand why women are wary. It's exhausting to deal with that kind of invasion, or the potential for it, all the time.

 

[LotusBud]

mmm… I can smell the malpractice suit *sighs*

Easiest money evah. Get rich quick, if you’re not a frivolous claimant *gigglesnortz*

...seems to be all the rage these days.

There was a recent case in Canada where a woman got $373,000 or about $300,000 US dollars in damages:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

The woman, who is not identified in the court ruling, booked and paid for a massage online with We Massage on Oct. 28, 2015.
'Basic Instinct' director disputes Sharon Stone's version of infamous scene

Following a criminal trial, Martin Contreras-Ramirez, the woman’s masseur, was convicted of sexually assaulting her. In July 2017, he was sentenced to 12 months in jail.

The victim then filed her civil lawsuit in B.C. Supreme Court.

The criminal trial heard that she wanted a massage to address a shoulder injury and made inquiries as to the legitimacy of the massage service when she realized that the massage would take place in Contreras-Ramirez’s residence.

She removed all of her clothing save her underwear during the massage and got on the table on her back, covering herself with a sheet. After she had fallen asleep during the massage, she woke up to find the masseur rubbing her right breast and digitally penetrating her vagina.

The victim yelled profanities at him, got dressed quickly and left the house and got into her car, locking herself in and calling police.

When police arrived, they found her visibly upset, with one of the officers describing her as being hysterical.

“The plaintiff was a confident and outgoing woman before the assault, often out to dinners with friends, movies, parties, weekend road trips, and hosted gatherings at her house,” B.C. Supreme Court Justice Robert Punnett said in his ruling on the civil suit. “After the assault, she changed. Initially, she suffered from considerable shame and guilt, stayed home, avoided contact with others, slept and suffered a loss of appetite.”

At the time of the attack, she was employed as a military public affairs officer. But she has lost her career, having been told she will be medically released from the Canadian Armed Forces this summer.

“The plaintiff deposes that from the time she was 15 she wanted to join the Canadian Armed Forces and directed her efforts to that goal,” said the judge. “As that career has been brought to an end, she struggles with her identity and her prospects.”

...I wonder how much of it is real damage or just hysteria from plaintiffs trying to get the most out of these settlements.

If a woman is sexually assaulted, the trauma is real, period. The only real question is whether she lied about the assault. Judging from personal experience, there is a shit ton of sexual predators out there, so the odds are that the woman is telling the truth, even though here and there you'll find a sadistic or money-hungry liar. My personal experience is the reason I would never, ever go to a male gyno. Not saying that most are predators, but there is always one lurking somewhere nearby. ALWAYS.

I practiced tort law for 18 years before I switched practice areas. Most of the women who made accusations against a medical provider suffered from numerous mental health issues and none of the claims were ever brought to economic fruition. Doctors are required to have staff present for exams of this nature and for good reason. I’m not saying that there aren’t bad doctors who do this… but they are gambling with their license to practice. I’m saying it’s minimal in comparison to the psychotic delusions of the opportunistic.

Well, in the cases I know about, the men have been accused by literally dozens of women. I don't believe that many women are making this shit up about one man. I really don't. Doctors are supposed to have staff present, but in my experience, they very often don't.

It’s your responsibility as the patient to ask for staff to be present if they don’t provide that. It’s your legal right. It’s mind boggling that people don’t know this.

Well, I don't think it's all that mind boggling. Most people think of doctors as authority figures who have their shit under control. That's a fact. A lot of people never, ever challenge a doctor.

Anyway, I have met enough predatory men in my life to have decided never to go to a male gynocologist. I don't know why anyone would. It's not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.

I have never had an issue. I also don’t have victim mentality and carry myself like a strong, educated female would…. so I’m not a target of predators.

But I believe it’s your choice to see whatever gyno makes you feel comfortable. The same can be said with therapists and specialists alike.

You don't have to have victim mentality to be assaulted. I would say you are lucky, and your luck doesn't make other women liars.

 

[LotusBud]

I hate predatory men with a passion. See, there's a difference. Just like there's a difference between a black person who is a scumbag and one who isn't. I don't paint with the broad brush of the bigot.

...and what are 'predatory men'?

Looking at a woman? Talking to them?

I've had experiences where I've been in a store talking to a sales clerk in a store, and them some Work bitch comes over and interferes with our conversation thinking I'm up to no good.

Incidentally that sales clerk, a pretty, petite Latina woman with a big most delicious woman I’ve ever laid my eyes on! wedding band on her finger, didn't seem to feel uncomfortable or threatened by me. She seemed totally comfortable at engaging in sales talk about the store products.

Experiences I've had with such ultra-vigilant women is they're often men haters and they think we're all predators.

My own impression of such women is they're out to destroy men, in order to protect their own turf so they can get theirs.

If you hate predatory men, I hate Woke Women/feminazis just as much.

Not all women who have been assaulted are like that woman, and I wouldn't judge all women by one experience you had, just like I don't judge all men by the dozen men I've been assaulted by. Like I said, I don't hate men, but I am clear that I need to be careful. Most women are clear about this once they've been assaulted one time.

 

[Murdy]

I hate predatory men with a passion. See, there's a difference. Just like there's a difference between a black person who is a scumbag and one who isn't. I don't paint with the broad brush of the bigot.

...and what are 'predatory men'?

Looking at a woman? Talking to them?

I've had experiences where I've been in a store talking to a sales clerk in a store, and them some Work bitch comes over and interferes with our conversation thinking I'm up to no good.

Incidentally that sales clerk, a pretty, petite Latina woman with a big most delicious woman I’ve ever laid my eyes on! wedding band on her finger, didn't seem to feel uncomfortable or threatened by me. She seemed totally comfortable at engaging in sales talk about the store products.

Experiences I've had with such ultra-vigilant women is they're often men haters and they think we're all predators.

My own impression of such women is they're out to destroy men, in order to protect their own turf so they can get theirs.

If you hate predatory men, I hate Woke Women/feminazis just as much.

Not all women who have been assaulted are like that woman, and I wouldn't judge all women by one experience you had, just like I don't judge all men by the dozen men I've been assaulted by. Like I said, I don't hate men, but I am clear that I need to be careful. Most women are clear about this once they've been assaulted one time.

But you have judged them… you refuse to go to a male gyno based on your dealings with some predatory men.

Women are also predatory, so there is that.

 

[LotusBud]

I hate predatory men with a passion. See, there's a difference. Just like there's a difference between a black person who is a scumbag and one who isn't. I don't paint with the broad brush of the bigot.

...and what are 'predatory men'?

Looking at a woman? Talking to them?

I've had experiences where I've been in a store talking to a sales clerk in a store, and them some Work bitch comes over and interferes with our conversation thinking I'm up to no good.

Incidentally that sales clerk, a pretty, petite Latina woman with a big most delicious woman I’ve ever laid my eyes on! wedding band on her finger, didn't seem to feel uncomfortable or threatened by me. She seemed totally comfortable at engaging in sales talk about the store products.

Experiences I've had with such ultra-vigilant women is they're often men haters and they think we're all predators.

My own impression of such women is they're out to destroy men, in order to protect their own turf so they can get theirs.

If you hate predatory men, I hate Woke Women/feminazis just as much.

Not all women who have been assaulted are like that woman, and I wouldn't judge all women by one experience you had, just like I don't judge all men by the dozen men I've been assaulted by. Like I said, I don't hate men, but I am clear that I need to be careful. Most women are clear about this once they've been assaulted one time.

But you have judged them… you refuse to go to a male gyno based on your dealings with some predatory men.

Women are also predatory, so there is that.

Yeah. Because I don't want to take the risk. Why should I when there are female gynos everywhere? I really like my docs.

Of course women can be predatory. I never said they can't. But I never had one assault me, and plenty of men have, so I prefer to trust my gut.

 

[Murdy]

mmm… I can smell the malpractice suit *sighs*

Easiest money evah. Get rich quick, if you’re not a frivolous claimant *gigglesnortz*

...seems to be all the rage these days.

There was a recent case in Canada where a woman got $373,000 or about $300,000 US dollars in damages:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

The woman, who is not identified in the court ruling, booked and paid for a massage online with We Massage on Oct. 28, 2015.
'Basic Instinct' director disputes Sharon Stone's version of infamous scene

Following a criminal trial, Martin Contreras-Ramirez, the woman’s masseur, was convicted of sexually assaulting her. In July 2017, he was sentenced to 12 months in jail.

The victim then filed her civil lawsuit in B.C. Supreme Court.

The criminal trial heard that she wanted a massage to address a shoulder injury and made inquiries as to the legitimacy of the massage service when she realized that the massage would take place in Contreras-Ramirez’s residence.

She removed all of her clothing save her underwear during the massage and got on the table on her back, covering herself with a sheet. After she had fallen asleep during the massage, she woke up to find the masseur rubbing her right breast and digitally penetrating her vagina.

The victim yelled profanities at him, got dressed quickly and left the house and got into her car, locking herself in and calling police.

When police arrived, they found her visibly upset, with one of the officers describing her as being hysterical.

“The plaintiff was a confident and outgoing woman before the assault, often out to dinners with friends, movies, parties, weekend road trips, and hosted gatherings at her house,” B.C. Supreme Court Justice Robert Punnett said in his ruling on the civil suit. “After the assault, she changed. Initially, she suffered from considerable shame and guilt, stayed home, avoided contact with others, slept and suffered a loss of appetite.”

At the time of the attack, she was employed as a military public affairs officer. But she has lost her career, having been told she will be medically released from the Canadian Armed Forces this summer.

“The plaintiff deposes that from the time she was 15 she wanted to join the Canadian Armed Forces and directed her efforts to that goal,” said the judge. “As that career has been brought to an end, she struggles with her identity and her prospects.”

...I wonder how much of it is real damage or just hysteria from plaintiffs trying to get the most out of these settlements.

If a woman is sexually assaulted, the trauma is real, period. The only real question is whether she lied about the assault. Judging from personal experience, there is a shit ton of sexual predators out there, so the odds are that the woman is telling the truth, even though here and there you'll find a sadistic or money-hungry liar. My personal experience is the reason I would never, ever go to a male gyno. Not saying that most are predators, but there is always one lurking somewhere nearby. ALWAYS.

I practiced tort law for 18 years before I switched practice areas. Most of the women who made accusations against a medical provider suffered from numerous mental health issues and none of the claims were ever brought to economic fruition. Doctors are required to have staff present for exams of this nature and for good reason. I’m not saying that there aren’t bad doctors who do this… but they are gambling with their license to practice. I’m saying it’s minimal in comparison to the psychotic delusions of the opportunistic.

Well, in the cases I know about, the men have been accused by literally dozens of women. I don't believe that many women are making this shit up about one man. I really don't. Doctors are supposed to have staff present, but in my experience, they very often don't.

It’s your responsibility as the patient to ask for staff to be present if they don’t provide that. It’s your legal right. It’s mind boggling that people don’t know this.

Well, I don't think it's all that mind boggling. Most people think of doctors as authority figures who have their shit under control. That's a fact. A lot of people never, ever challenge a doctor.

Anyway, I have met enough predatory men in my life to have decided never to go to a male gynocologist. I don't know why anyone would. It's not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.

I have never had an issue. I also don’t have victim mentality and carry myself like a strong, educated female would…. so I’m not a target of predators.

But I believe it’s your choice to see whatever gyno makes you feel comfortable. The same can be said with therapists and specialists alike.

You don't have to have victim mentality to be assaulted. I would say you are lucky, and your luck doesn't make other women liars.

That’s absolutely NOT true. I’ve taken assault and rape preventative self-defense classes for years and that’s the first thing you’re taught is how to carry yourself and walk down the street so that you’re not targeted by these types of people.

 

[Dove]

Pointing out male violence against women is not an attack on all men.

It's not saying women never lie.

It's just fucking saying that men ARE a risk. This is a fact. Its addressing and assessing risk based on what we know happens statistically. And anecdotally even.

Men beat, murder, traffick and rape women. And children. Look at crime stats.

No one is saying ALL men.

I stick with female gynos.....because I dont know what a strange man is gonna do, but i DO know if he does something? I'll be smeared as psychologically unstable or an opportunist or both. So....this whole thing can be avoided by avoiding male gynos.

Good men should be executing these perverts rather than putting them in womens prisons fyi...that would be nice.

 

[Murdy]

In the interim, doctors are held to a higher duty of care than the average rapist and if anyone was actually assaulted… there would have been a trial and settlement/award for compensatory damages.

 

[Frood]

All this sexism around.... sigh....

 

[Joe]

My suggestion to Lotusbud and Dove - if you value your safety as a woman, then don't use Uber or Lyft ridesharing services. Or send your daughters off in them. Their drivers in many cities may not have been properly vetted, nor given stringent criminal record/sexual predator checks.

Civic Governments everywhere dumbed down the regulations so that a flood of unqulaified, improperly screened drivers could enter their market to put money into city coffers. The ride sharing companies greased the palms of the politcians.

Allowing Uber/Lyft in was all about money vs. public safety.

Money won.

Just thought I'd let you know.

 

[Frood]

Progressive women are more dangerous than any male out there...

These women are mentally imbalanced and their dildo holsters smell like rancid cream and party plan essential oils left on the dashboard for a few weeks.

 

[Murdy]

All this sexism around.... sigh....

The result of extraordinarily stressful events that have shattered their sense of of security. It’s a trauma response as the emotional and psychological damage shifts to PTSD. They clearly have not healed from their ordeals.

 

[TheHaze]

When ever this subject would come up my wife would say why would a male Doc want to be a
gyno in the 1st place!

 

[Murdy]

Progressive women are more dangerous than any male out there...

These women are mentally imbalanced and their dildo holsters smell like rancid cream and party plan essential oils left on the dashboard for a few weeks.

^^^ thread derail alert… where are your ethics!?!??

 

[Adam Hitler]

I canNOT imagine a worse job than being a gyno for cranky old hens.
jayzuz kayrist! Kill me now!

Or giving prostate examinations?

*Shudders*

 

[Dove]

mmm… I can smell the malpractice suit *sighs*

Easiest money evah. Get rich quick, if you’re not a frivolous claimant *gigglesnortz*

...seems to be all the rage these days.

There was a recent case in Canada where a woman got $373,000 or about $300,000 US dollars in damages:

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The woman, who is not identified in the court ruling, booked and paid for a massage online with We Massage on Oct. 28, 2015.
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Following a criminal trial, Martin Contreras-Ramirez, the woman’s masseur, was convicted of sexually assaulting her. In July 2017, he was sentenced to 12 months in jail.

The victim then filed her civil lawsuit in B.C. Supreme Court.

The criminal trial heard that she wanted a massage to address a shoulder injury and made inquiries as to the legitimacy of the massage service when she realized that the massage would take place in Contreras-Ramirez’s residence.

She removed all of her clothing save her underwear during the massage and got on the table on her back, covering herself with a sheet. After she had fallen asleep during the massage, she woke up to find the masseur rubbing her right breast and digitally penetrating her vagina.

The victim yelled profanities at him, got dressed quickly and left the house and got into her car, locking herself in and calling police.

When police arrived, they found her visibly upset, with one of the officers describing her as being hysterical.

“The plaintiff was a confident and outgoing woman before the assault, often out to dinners with friends, movies, parties, weekend road trips, and hosted gatherings at her house,” B.C. Supreme Court Justice Robert Punnett said in his ruling on the civil suit. “After the assault, she changed. Initially, she suffered from considerable shame and guilt, stayed home, avoided contact with others, slept and suffered a loss of appetite.”

At the time of the attack, she was employed as a military public affairs officer. But she has lost her career, having been told she will be medically released from the Canadian Armed Forces this summer.

“The plaintiff deposes that from the time she was 15 she wanted to join the Canadian Armed Forces and directed her efforts to that goal,” said the judge. “As that career has been brought to an end, she struggles with her identity and her prospects.”

...I wonder how much of it is real damage or just hysteria from plaintiffs trying to get the most out of these settlements.

If a woman is sexually assaulted, the trauma is real, period. The only real question is whether she lied about the assault. Judging from personal experience, there is a shit ton of sexual predators out there, so the odds are that the woman is telling the truth, even though here and there you'll find a sadistic or money-hungry liar. My personal experience is the reason I would never, ever go to a male gyno. Not saying that most are predators, but there is always one lurking somewhere nearby. ALWAYS.

I practiced tort law for 18 years before I switched practice areas. Most of the women who made accusations against a medical provider suffered from numerous mental health issues and none of the claims were ever brought to economic fruition. Doctors are required to have staff present for exams of this nature and for good reason. I’m not saying that there aren’t bad doctors who do this… but they are gambling with their license to practice. I’m saying it’s minimal in comparison to the psychotic delusions of the opportunistic.

Well, in the cases I know about, the men have been accused by literally dozens of women. I don't believe that many women are making this shit up about one man. I really don't. Doctors are supposed to have staff present, but in my experience, they very often don't.

It’s your responsibility as the patient to ask for staff to be present if they don’t provide that. It’s your legal right. It’s mind boggling that people don’t know this.

Well, I don't think it's all that mind boggling. Most people think of doctors as authority figures who have their shit under control. That's a fact. A lot of people never, ever challenge a doctor.

Anyway, I have met enough predatory men in my life to have decided never to go to a male gynocologist. I don't know why anyone would. It's not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.

I have never had an issue. I also don’t have victim mentality and carry myself like a strong, educated female would…. so I’m not a target of predators.

But I believe it’s your choice to see whatever gyno makes you feel comfortable. The same can be said with therapists and specialists alike.

You don't have to have victim mentality to be assaulted. I would say you are lucky, and your luck doesn't make other women liars.

Rape and sexual assault is illegal and the reality is it is up to the individual adult to not break the law. You break the law and violate the rights of another? The ONLY one responsible is the law breaker. It's not illegal to be weak, or timid, or even uneducated and being ANY of those does NOT entitle a fucking man....or anyone....to abuse or assault that person. This is not hard. Children are all 3 of those. As well as helpless. They are trusting. Are people entitled to abuse them? NO.

You are right on this one.

I'll just leave this one here and we can ponder how many more victims this man had who no one listened to because they lacked resources to go after him. Because power dynamics are a myth I guess.

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Every single one of these shit bag doctors who use their practice to access victims and get away with it just makes women rightfully weary and mistrusting of all of them. We all think we carry ourselves well until that bluff is called(and it IS a bluff) by someone stronger with more resources. You take an educated strong female and pit her against an educated strong man? Women will ALWAYS have to fight harder. Not because of good men.....because of shit men. In fact I'm willing to state women with mental illness are specifically targeted for abuse BECAUSE their mental illness can be weaponized as it always is with predators when they chose targets.

AGAIN....this is not a slam on GOOD and decent men. It's a slam on dick swinging subhuman moids and how they hide under the mask of good and decent men. I had a male OB with my second child and he was fantastic. I just would prefer a female because if it does go bad.....its VERY bad. It's not just a bad day bad. It can be life altering bad.

And to be clear, predatory women who lie about being assaulted and its proven it was a lie should have to face prison time. Or least pay compensation to her male victim. Its especailly heinous as liars make it harder for actual abuse survivors.

But let's not with the carry yourself shit. Predatory men dont give a fuck how educated and strong you are. They care about opportunity. If you get caught off guard like most all women do? You need way more than education. Better fight for our RIGHT to arm ourselves and have our sex based rights legally honored. Get these perverted autogynophilia fetishists out of our spaces and prisons.

"Well damn, I'm impressed with how this woman carries herself. I think I'll let this mighty gem go and go get a lesser, more timid woman who is below this paragon of womanhood I'm leaving alone" ~ Things Ted Bundy never said.

We all know the law. If someone chooses to break that law and harm another person via sexual assault? That responsibility is only on the one who chose to assault. It's not up to US to make sure we crack some shit bag code to adjust how we carry ourselves so some predator wont break the law.

And when doctors are sex abusers they can get away with it for gross amounts of time.

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[Dove]

I canNOT imagine a worse job than being a gyno for cranky old hens.
jayzuz kayrist! Kill me now!

Or giving prostate examinations?

*Shudders*

Read my links. Even men have been abused by doctors.

Not as often....but it happens. Or at least as far as we know not as often.....men tend to be more hesitant reporting abuse.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Agreed, I'm positive that a male fag doc sneaked in during one of my medical exams and had a peak at my meAT!

 

[Murdy]

The level of paranoia in this thread is disturbing. Perhaps we should go back to the practice of pointing to a ceramic doll to show the doctor where it hurts? *rolls eyes*

 

[LotusBud]

mmm… I can smell the malpractice suit *sighs*

Easiest money evah. Get rich quick, if you’re not a frivolous claimant *gigglesnortz*

...seems to be all the rage these days.

There was a recent case in Canada where a woman got $373,000 or about $300,000 US dollars in damages:

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The woman, who is not identified in the court ruling, booked and paid for a massage online with We Massage on Oct. 28, 2015.
'Basic Instinct' director disputes Sharon Stone's version of infamous scene

Following a criminal trial, Martin Contreras-Ramirez, the woman’s masseur, was convicted of sexually assaulting her. In July 2017, he was sentenced to 12 months in jail.

The victim then filed her civil lawsuit in B.C. Supreme Court.

The criminal trial heard that she wanted a massage to address a shoulder injury and made inquiries as to the legitimacy of the massage service when she realized that the massage would take place in Contreras-Ramirez’s residence.

She removed all of her clothing save her underwear during the massage and got on the table on her back, covering herself with a sheet. After she had fallen asleep during the massage, she woke up to find the masseur rubbing her right breast and digitally penetrating her vagina.

The victim yelled profanities at him, got dressed quickly and left the house and got into her car, locking herself in and calling police.

When police arrived, they found her visibly upset, with one of the officers describing her as being hysterical.

“The plaintiff was a confident and outgoing woman before the assault, often out to dinners with friends, movies, parties, weekend road trips, and hosted gatherings at her house,” B.C. Supreme Court Justice Robert Punnett said in his ruling on the civil suit. “After the assault, she changed. Initially, she suffered from considerable shame and guilt, stayed home, avoided contact with others, slept and suffered a loss of appetite.”

At the time of the attack, she was employed as a military public affairs officer. But she has lost her career, having been told she will be medically released from the Canadian Armed Forces this summer.

“The plaintiff deposes that from the time she was 15 she wanted to join the Canadian Armed Forces and directed her efforts to that goal,” said the judge. “As that career has been brought to an end, she struggles with her identity and her prospects.”

...I wonder how much of it is real damage or just hysteria from plaintiffs trying to get the most out of these settlements.

If a woman is sexually assaulted, the trauma is real, period. The only real question is whether she lied about the assault. Judging from personal experience, there is a shit ton of sexual predators out there, so the odds are that the woman is telling the truth, even though here and there you'll find a sadistic or money-hungry liar. My personal experience is the reason I would never, ever go to a male gyno. Not saying that most are predators, but there is always one lurking somewhere nearby. ALWAYS.

I practiced tort law for 18 years before I switched practice areas. Most of the women who made accusations against a medical provider suffered from numerous mental health issues and none of the claims were ever brought to economic fruition. Doctors are required to have staff present for exams of this nature and for good reason. I’m not saying that there aren’t bad doctors who do this… but they are gambling with their license to practice. I’m saying it’s minimal in comparison to the psychotic delusions of the opportunistic.

Well, in the cases I know about, the men have been accused by literally dozens of women. I don't believe that many women are making this shit up about one man. I really don't. Doctors are supposed to have staff present, but in my experience, they very often don't.

It’s your responsibility as the patient to ask for staff to be present if they don’t provide that. It’s your legal right. It’s mind boggling that people don’t know this.

Well, I don't think it's all that mind boggling. Most people think of doctors as authority figures who have their shit under control. That's a fact. A lot of people never, ever challenge a doctor.

Anyway, I have met enough predatory men in my life to have decided never to go to a male gynocologist. I don't know why anyone would. It's not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.

I have never had an issue. I also don’t have victim mentality and carry myself like a strong, educated female would…. so I’m not a target of predators.

But I believe it’s your choice to see whatever gyno makes you feel comfortable. The same can be said with therapists and specialists alike.

You don't have to have victim mentality to be assaulted. I would say you are lucky, and your luck doesn't make other women liars.

That’s absolutely NOT true. I’ve taken assault and rape preventative self-defense classes for years and that’s the first thing you’re taught is how to carry yourself and walk down the street so that you’re not targeted by these types of people.

That's good you did that, and I'm sure it made a difference. But you can't begin to tell me that no woman who carries herself with assurance has ever been assaulted.

Some men take that kind of thing as a challenge. I had a boyfriend who was 6'7" and I can't tell you how many guys tried to start fights with him to see if they could take him just because he was bigger than them.

When ever this subject would come up my wife would say why would a male Doc want to be a
gyno in the 1st place!

I agree. What a weird choice. As Mark Twain once said, it must make the doc incapable of appreciating a woman's beauty.

 

[LotusBud]

I canNOT imagine a worse job than being a gyno for cranky old hens.
jayzuz kayrist! Kill me now!

Or giving prostate examinations?

*Shudders*

Read my links. Even men have been abused by doctors.

Not as often....but it happens. Or at least as far as we know not as often.....men tend to be more hesitant reporting abuse.

There was a doc in a hospital in LA, an anesthesiologist, who was convicted of raping hundreds of unconscious women. OBVIOUSLY there was evidence against him. How would an unconscious woman even know? The hospital aactually informed the women.

 

[Dove]

I canNOT imagine a worse job than being a gyno for cranky old hens.
jayzuz kayrist! Kill me now!

Or giving prostate examinations?

*Shudders*

Read my links. Even men have been abused by doctors.

Not as often....but it happens. Or at least as far as we know not as often.....men tend to be more hesitant reporting abuse.

There was a doc in a hospital in LA, an anesthesiologist, who was convicted of raping hundreds of unconscious women. OBVIOUSLY there was evidence against him. How would an unconscious woman even know? The hospital aactually informed the women.

I cannot tell you how many times this has crossed my mind. I dont know if it's because I'm a survivor or if I would think about this anyway......but I've had a lot of procedures for kidney stones so I've been put under MANY times.

And I've definately wondered how my doctors really act when I'm the most vulnerable. You hear about all kinds of ghoulish behavior of medical staff with sedated patients.

 

[Phester0boyle]

I canNOT imagine a worse job than being a gyno for cranky old hens.
jayzuz kayrist! Kill me now!

Or giving prostate examinations?

*Shudders*

That reminds of the time…. Uh… never mind.

 

[Murdy]

I’ve delivered 2 full term babies that are both in college now and had one miscarriage. My gyno has never put me under.

@LotusBud ~ my point remains that licensed professionals will monitor themselves accordingly… or a malpractice suit is inevitable.

 

[LotusBud]

I’ve delivered 2 full term babies that are both in college now and had one miscarriage. My gyno has never put me under.

@LotusBud ~ my point remains that licensed professionals will monitor themselves accordingly… or a malpractice suit is inevitable.

I get it. But why be a victim and then wait for the lawsuit after 30, 40 women have been assaulted. I'm glad you had a good gyno. I loved my female gyno, so there was no reason to go to a man.

People get put under for things other than births. I got put under for a D&C after a miscarriage, and I swear the anesthesiologist was very sketchy.

 

[Murdy]

I’ve delivered 2 full term babies that are both in college now and had one miscarriage. My gyno has never put me under.

@LotusBud ~ my point remains that licensed professionals will monitor themselves accordingly… or a malpractice suit is inevitable.

I get it. But why be a victim and then wait for the lawsuit after 30, 40 women have been assaulted. I'm glad you had a good gyno. I loved my female gyno, so there was no reason to go to a man.

People get put under for things other than births. I got put under for a DNC after a miscarriage, and I swear the anesthesiologist was very sketchy.

And I don’t doubt that you have been assaulted or that you have a general concern about your safety with respect to your medical care.

I also wonder how many of this doctor accusers have drug seeking behavior burned into their medical records for eternity… just sayin.