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Violence, including radicalized Islam, needs to end.

Who do we blame for the casual everyday violence in America?

What is anyone doing to stop it?
We have laws, law enforcement, and education, and we should be moving toward the creation of a society where people's basic human needs are satisfied...gainful employement, material security etc.

Why do people always want to whataboutize when islam and it's inherent violence kills people in accordance with its philosophy of intolerance?
 

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Blaming the Muslim community as a whole, it would seem.
Who, jack, said all muslims? I said islam...which from its origins is a disease and really nothing not to be expected to come to prominence in this current age of Kali Yuga. Don't defend islam. If you care about muslims, particularly the women who are it's victims, help them break away from it.
 

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Who, jack, said all muslims? I said islam...which from its origins is a disease and rreally nothing not to be expected to come to prominence in this current age of Kali Yuga. Don't defend islam. If you care about muslims, particularly the women who are it's victims, help them break away from it.

Isn't everyone that follows Islam the problem as you define it, then?
 

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Who, jack, said all muslims? I said islam...which from its origins is a disease and rreally nothing not to be expected to come to prominence in this current age of Kali Yuga. Don't defend islam. If you care about muslims, particularly the women who are it's victims, help them break away from it.
The guy was an American citizen. That makes him a domestic terrorist.

Islam may exist in America, but hate crimes perpetrated under that guise are treated just like any other act of domestic terror.

It's the same thing as the guy in Charlottesville who drove through the crowd and killed that woman. He wasn't "Muslim" He was an American citizen.

Same shit, different day. hate isn't confined to a segment that makes us comfortable to identify and be angry about.
 

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"deprecate" is the obvious choice
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The guy was an American citizen. That makes him a domestic terrorist.

Islam may exist in America, but hate crimes perpetrated under that guise are treated just like any other act of domestic terror.

It's the same thing as the guy in Charlottesville who drove through the croud and killed that woman.
So what that he was a Amercitizen? He's an islamist. How are you not seeing that?
..and the Charlottesville guy - he too is a radical conservative.
Have you never read words I writ to the effect that conservatism is the problem and that islam and MAGA are the same shit, different pile?
 

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So what that he was a Amercitizen? He's an islamist. How are you not seeing that?
..and the Charlottesville guy - he too is a radical conservative.
Have you never read words I writ to the effect that conservatism is the problem and that islam and MAGA are the same shit, different pile?
No, this conversation is the first time.
 

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That makes no sense if YOU, and you do, define Islam as the core problem.

Your logic falls apart.

Is this guy worse than the guy in Las Vegas that killed dozens a few years back because of his religion?
LoLz - my logic never falls apart. islam/radical conservatism IS the core problem.
Study its history. Take a real look at it's history of murder and conquest, of forcing itself upon other people.
...and do that w/o whataboutizing.
 

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I'm guessing that at 3:30 AM New Year's Day, things were winding down and security was lax. This dick drove around whatever barriers were in place and plowed right into the crowd. Then came out shooting at cops. He had IEDs planted around and in the truck. Cops shot him dead. Kudos to those cops. They did not flinch.

We just had New Year here in Shitty City. They place garbage trucks full of sand at choke points so that no one can sneak a vehicle through. Cops check everyone with metal detectors and X-ray machines. Uniformed and undercover cops are everywhere, all hands on deck. We had no issues at all. A gunfight happened in the Bronx and wags commented, 'only one?'.

When Syria fell we bombed a bunch of ISIS outposts to prevent them from taking advantage of the vacuum. While this was probably a smart idea, maybe we should have been ready for repercussions?