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Considering the average amount of child support is $430 a month in the US, that isn't paying for any cosmetic surgeries. And even if a woman is getting a lot of child support, are the children living like shit, eating next to nothing and running around naked? If yes, why aren't these fathers reporting these terrible conditions to the authorities?
You're kidding right? CPS is a clusterfuck of failure and incompetence.

There are the courts and if a man can provide documentation, the children can be taken away by a judge.
ROTFLMAO.

on what planet?

listen dear, you're speaking to a single father who raised his kids since birth. If anyone here knows the ins and outs of that clusterfuck of failure it's me.

Not everything is about you and your situation. I don't think we should personalize what is happening in this country. I know there are good people that are hurt by institutions on both sides of an issue, but many, many, many more women are victimized by deadbeats.
 

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Considering the average amount of child support is $430 a month in the US, that isn't paying for any cosmetic surgeries. And even if a woman is getting a lot of child support, are the children living like shit, eating next to nothing and running around naked? If yes, why aren't these fathers reporting these terrible conditions to the authorities?
You're kidding right? CPS is a clusterfuck of failure and incompetence.

There are the courts and if a man can provide documentation, the children can be taken away by a judge.
ROTFLMAO.

on what planet?

listen dear, you're speaking to a single father who raised his kids since birth. If anyone here knows the ins and outs of that clusterfuck of failure it's me.

Not everything is about you and your situation. I don't think we should personalize what is happening in this country. I know there are good people that are hurt by institutions on both sides of an issue, but many, many, many more women are victimized by deadbeats.
Perhaps if these women made better choices in partners? I think you're bundling in losers who would never be able to take care of themselves let alone a child and/or multiple children with decent men who enter a marriage union with integrity and end up getting fucked over hard by an unrelenting, unforgiving and completely imbalanced court system

So let's isolate the groups and talk about how many men with decent paying jobs, were actually married to the mother and are honest law abiding citizens are being financially destroyed to the point of poverty & homelessness vs how many in that same group are actually victimizing their exes
 

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Some of the men that whined the most about child support were moderate or conservative men. That's why I started this thread, because of the men posting as if they're victims.
My dad was as liberal as fuck and tried to teach me to accept all people and be open minded. Didnt pay jack shit for support to my mom. So much for that theory! Meanwhile, I'm CONservative, my ex left me with the kids, and the cunt wouldnt pay her $450/mo TOTAL child support for TWO kids! Didnt pay for doctor visits or insurance deductibles either. My wife made sure they had everything tho. Paid all their insurance, paid medical bills, and took care of em like her own.
 

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A guy I worked with about 15 years ago was sent off to Iraq right after he got married. His cunt whore wife serial fucked everyone, got knocked up by some 40 something man, then moved on to bangin some scumbag nigger, had the kid, spent every dime he had coming in, drove his car into the ground, he couldnt divorce her or get his money secured because they were married and he was deployed, came back, paid child support for another dudes kid for a year or more, FINALLY got his name off the birth certificate by court order, and STILL had to pay 2 more months support until the paperwork caught up with our employer. Think that cunt suffered anything? NOPE! This is another type of person God says should be executed.
 

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Some of the men that whined the most about child support were moderate or conservative men. That's why I started this thread, because of the men posting as if they're victims.

Dear liar. Quote anyone saying what you claim. You can't because no one did.

You whined about the poor broke ass men that can't afford to pay child support. You know you did. Instead of saying he needs to do whatever possible to support the offspring he brought into this world. You're not a man. You're a weasel.

Hell, I don't have biological children but fully support two step children. I support them well and I hope you are able to do as well for your children as I do with my step children. Given your proclivities towards lying and poor reading comprehension though I have grave doubts about your abilities on that front.

Don't make assumptions about how I interact with those in my life. I haven't made any about yours. I've just said you're whining feeling sorry for men that may not deserve any sympathy.

Another lie. You made a personal attack above claiming what type of father I am when you don't know shit. I can only go on what you post her but the arrogant and clueless crap you wrote her shows you are a garbage person with a reading disability at best.
 

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I personally knew a guy making 90K a year sleeping in a church basement after spousal support and child support got done with him.

that has to change. No one is saying the kids should not be taken care of but when you have a situation where there is zero quality of life for the father for the next 18+ years then there's something very broken

Exactly. Everyone, literally everyone, agreed that children should be supported. We discussed policy changes which would make it more likely for men to be able to actually do that. Like being able to provide basic needs for themselves so that they can maintain stable emoyment and build theor careers in order to increase their earnings thus becoming better providers.

Yet the liar claimed that some how meant men shouldn't help support their children. Talk about a true liar. All because she is too lazy and too stupid to read so she thought she would just lie about other people and make up false claims about them. What a piece of garbage.

Men, like women, should do everything to support their children. Everything. No excuses. There are generations of mothers that have struggled with no support to raise their children. Stop making excuses.

Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You're too stupid to understand what other people say so you just lie and make up an imaginary position.
 

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Considering the average amount of child support is $430 a month in the US, that isn't paying for any cosmetic surgeries. And even if a woman is getting a lot of child support, are the children living like shit, eating next to nothing and running around naked? If yes, why aren't these fathers reporting these terrible conditions to the authorities?
You're kidding right? CPS is a clusterfuck of failure and incompetence.

There are the courts and if a man can provide documentation, the children can be taken away by a judge.

Almost impossible in many left wing states.
 
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Some of the men that whined the most about child support were moderate or conservative men. That's why I started this thread, because of the men posting as if they're victims.

Dear liar. Quote anyone saying what you claim. You can't because no one did.

You whined about the poor broke ass men that can't afford to pay child support. You know you did. Instead of saying he needs to do whatever possible to support the offspring he brought into this world. You're not a man. You're a weasel.

Hell, I don't have biological children but fully support two step children. I support them well and I hope you are able to do as well for your children as I do with my step children. Given your proclivities towards lying and poor reading comprehension though I have grave doubts about your abilities on that front.

Don't make assumptions about how I interact with those in my life. I haven't made any about yours. I've just said you're whining feeling sorry for men that may not deserve any sympathy.

Another lie. You made a personal attack above claiming what type of father I am when you don't know shit. I can only go on what you post her but the arrogant and clueless crap you wrote her shows you are a garbage person with a reading disability at best.

Settle down, nerd.
 
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I personally knew a guy making 90K a year sleeping in a church basement after spousal support and child support got done with him.

that has to change. No one is saying the kids should not be taken care of but when you have a situation where there is zero quality of life for the father for the next 18+ years then there's something very broken

Exactly. Everyone, literally everyone, agreed that children should be supported. We discussed policy changes which would make it more likely for men to be able to actually do that. Like being able to provide basic needs for themselves so that they can maintain stable emoyment and build theor careers in order to increase their earnings thus becoming better providers.

Yet the liar claimed that some how meant men shouldn't help support their children. Talk about a true liar. All because she is too lazy and too stupid to read so she thought she would just lie about other people and make up false claims about them. What a piece of garbage.

Men, like women, should do everything to support their children. Everything. No excuses. There are generations of mothers that have struggled with no support to raise their children. Stop making excuses.

Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You're too stupid to understand what other people say so you just lie and make up an imaginary position.

You're insecure. No one with actual intelligence thinks I'm stupid. It's something they say because they think their opinion matters.
 
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Considering the average amount of child support is $430 a month in the US, that isn't paying for any cosmetic surgeries. And even if a woman is getting a lot of child support, are the children living like shit, eating next to nothing and running around naked? If yes, why aren't these fathers reporting these terrible conditions to the authorities?
You're kidding right? CPS is a clusterfuck of failure and incompetence.

There are the courts and if a man can provide documentation, the children can be taken away by a judge.

Almost impossible in many left wing states.

I helped a man I was in a relationship with win over a real cunt. It takes work, persistence and obviously money for an attorney. We/I did all the documentation. The bitch was hateful and petty. I called her on the phone and told her personally, you win this skirmish for the sake of the children, but you will see him in court. It's not a threat, it's a promise. His time with his children increased and his support decreased. And she did it to herself for being so hateful that he moved on before she did. This was in California.
 

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Considering the average amount of child support is $430 a month in the US, that isn't paying for any cosmetic surgeries. And even if a woman is getting a lot of child support, are the children living like shit, eating next to nothing and running around naked? If yes, why aren't these fathers reporting these terrible conditions to the authorities?
You're kidding right? CPS is a clusterfuck of failure and incompetence.

There are the courts and if a man can provide documentation, the children can be taken away by a judge.

Almost impossible in many left wing states.

I helped a man I was in a relationship with win over a real cunt. It takes work, persistence and obviously money for an attorney. We/I did all the documentation. The bitch was hateful and petty. I called her on the phone and told her personally, you win this skirmish for the sake of the children, but you will see him in court. It's not a threat, it's a promise. His time with his children increased and his support decreased. And she did it to herself for being so hateful that he moved on before she did. This was in California.
I bet it was...lol.
 

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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

They have poor diets and are struggling to push shit up hill financially. The world is far, far too crowded and everyday it's a big competiton with other pushy people trying to get by.... Move to the sticks and dump social media... Join a men's shed...
 

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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?

Mostly woke-ism. Also you're a moron if you think anyone here has whined about supporting their families. I have seen you do this multiple times already where you ignore what people actually said and instead build up a fantasy of what you wish they said or wrongly imagine they might have said.

That is not a good trait.

You complain about men having to spend up to 2/3rds, uncited of course, of their income on their children. That is in the other thread about the man paying support with pennies.

I mentioned that I personally know one man who does pay 2/3rds (between child support and spousal support) forcing him into poverty and homelessness even though it was his former wife who cheated on him while he was deployed. I also pointed out that his ex didn't spend the money on his kids and instead helped her boyfriend and their two kids with it. Oh, and I pointed out that she didn't marry her current boyfriend despite them having two children together. Yes, I do believe allowing the guy to mai tain basic shelter would be a better policy as it would improve his ability to provide for his family, but, you were clearly to stupid to understand even something as basic as that.

You have very poor reading comprehension then lie and pretend people said something they never did. Lying about other people's positions is a sign of low character and low intelligence.

In a situation like that man has, he should do the shared custody thingy.
 

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Some of the men that whined the most about child support were moderate or conservative men. That's why I started this thread, because of the men posting as if they're victims.

Dear liar. Quote anyone saying what you claim. You can't because no one did.

You whined about the poor broke ass men that can't afford to pay child support. You know you did. Instead of saying he needs to do whatever possible to support the offspring he brought into this world. You're not a man. You're a weasel.

Hell, I don't have biological children but fully support two step children. I support them well and I hope you are able to do as well for your children as I do with my step children. Given your proclivities towards lying and poor reading comprehension though I have grave doubts about your abilities on that front.

Don't make assumptions about how I interact with those in my life. I haven't made any about yours. I've just said you're whining feeling sorry for men that may not deserve any sympathy.

Another lie. You made a personal attack above claiming what type of father I am when you don't know shit. I can only go on what you post her but the arrogant and clueless crap you wrote her shows you are a garbage person with a reading disability at best.
That is a telling post what sort of character you are... passive aggressive.
 

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Cultural Marxism and an orchestrated, sustained attack on the traditional family unit are to blame and the reason why everything is so fucked up nowadays. Tons of single parents where kids don't have a father, women being discouraged to be homemakers and raise a family and to instead embark on a career, men scolded for their 'toxic masculinity' and 'white privilege', the heavy promotion of LGBT and all manner of other unnatural deviances, etc etc.

Basically today, wrong is right and right is wrong and anything which supports or glorifies traditional Christian values is attacked, vilified and suppressed, while the SJW progressive garbage is put on a pedestal and touted as being the greatest thing ever.

In a nutshell, the left has been allowed to dominate for far too long and we are unfortunately now in a predicament where individuals who have been indoctrinated with far left politics within academia have progressed onto job roles in various positions of power and influence, which subsequently has created a climate where 'woke' culture is deemed as the norm and the supposed correct way to think and behave.
 

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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
You must have been alive in the 50s. The 60s started the removal of the scrotum.
Now the worst, weakest person to be is a white man as the chi-coms and rushins watch..and wait.
 

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Considering the average amount of child support is $430 a month in the US, that isn't paying for any cosmetic surgeries. And even if a woman is getting a lot of child support, are the children living like shit, eating next to nothing and running around naked? If yes, why aren't these fathers reporting these terrible conditions to the authorities?
You're kidding right? CPS is a clusterfuck of failure and incompetence.

There are the courts and if a man can provide documentation, the children can be taken away by a judge.

Almost impossible in many left wing states.

I helped a man I was in a relationship with win over a real cunt. It takes work, persistence and obviously money for an attorney. We/I did all the documentation. The bitch was hateful and petty. I called her on the phone and told her personally, you win this skirmish for the sake of the children, but you will see him in court. It's not a threat, it's a promise. His time with his children increased and his support decreased. And she did it to herself for being so hateful that he moved on before she did. This was in California.

"Cunt." Oak's favorite word for other women. Almost all other women (not just her ex-husband's ex-wife, eh @Lily ?).
 
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Cultural Marxism and an orchestrated, sustained attack on the traditional family unit are to blame and the reason why everything is so fucked up nowadays. Tons of single parents where kids don't have a father, women being discouraged to be homemakers and raise a family and to instead embark on a career, men scolded for their 'toxic masculinity' and 'white privilege', the heavy promotion of LGBT and all manner of other unnatural deviances, etc etc.

Basically today, wrong is right and right is wrong and anything which supports or glorifies traditional Christian values is attacked, vilified and suppressed, while the SJW progressive garbage is put on a pedestal and touted as being the greatest thing ever.

In a nutshell, the left has been allowed to dominate for far too long and we are unfortunately now in a predicament where individuals who have been indoctrinated with far left politics within academia have progressed onto job roles in various positions of power and influence, which subsequently has created a climate where 'woke' culture is deemed as the norm and the supposed correct way to think and behave.
Considering the average amount of child support is $430 a month in the US, that isn't paying for any cosmetic surgeries. And even if a woman is getting a lot of child support, are the children living like shit, eating next to nothing and running around naked? If yes, why aren't these fathers reporting these terrible conditions to the authorities?
You're kidding right? CPS is a clusterfuck of failure and incompetence.

There are the courts and if a man can provide documentation, the children can be taken away by a judge.

Almost impossible in many left wing states.

I helped a man I was in a relationship with win over a real cunt. It takes work, persistence and obviously money for an attorney. We/I did all the documentation. The bitch was hateful and petty. I called her on the phone and told her personally, you win this skirmish for the sake of the children, but you will see him in court. It's not a threat, it's a promise. His time with his children increased and his support decreased. And she did it to herself for being so hateful that he moved on before she did. This was in California.

"Cunt." Oak's favorite word for other women. Almost all other women.
I remember when gypsy said poark's teeth were rotting out from the filth which came from her mouth. That made me lol out loud.
 

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I personally knew a guy making 90K a year sleeping in a church basement after spousal support and child support got done with him.

that has to change. No one is saying the kids should not be taken care of but when you have a situation where there is zero quality of life for the father for the next 18+ years then there's something very broken

There are definately some fucked up situations. My cousin.....a woman.....not only lost custody because of how crafty her ex is, he was able to sue her. 12 times. I'm not even kidding.

And she got sent to anger management classes for showing normal human emotions during this FOC raping. She got treated how I've seen mostly some men get treated. And HE is the one who cheated. He started fucking the babysitter as soon as she turned 18, and got her pregnant.

I know the shit that happens to women in MY family isnt exactly a norm though lol.

MRAs are a worthy cause. The water gets muddy when you got men like MY ex whining to these other men who legitimately HAVE been fucked over.
 
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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
You must have been alive in the 50s. The 60s started the removal of the scrotum.
Now the worst, weakest person to be is a white man as the chi-coms and rushins watch..and wait.

I guess you liked the world when women had fewer choices in life, men dominated (and still do), and minorities were at the "back of the bus".

As for the Chinese and Russians, yes, they're waiting. I do believe that, but change is coming to them as well, though at a snail's pace. The Soviet Union seemed invincible, until is wasn't.
 

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Considering the average amount of child support is $430 a month in the US, that isn't paying for any cosmetic surgeries. And even if a woman is getting a lot of child support, are the children living like shit, eating next to nothing and running around naked? If yes, why aren't these fathers reporting these terrible conditions to the authorities?
You're kidding right? CPS is a clusterfuck of failure and incompetence.

There are the courts and if a man can provide documentation, the children can be taken away by a judge.
ROTFLMAO.

on what planet?

listen dear, you're speaking to a single father who raised his kids since birth. If anyone here knows the ins and outs of that clusterfuck of failure it's me.

Not everything is about you and your situation. I don't think we should personalize what is happening in this country. I know there are good people that are hurt by institutions on both sides of an issue, but many, many, many more women are victimized by deadbeats.
Perhaps if these women made better choices in partners? I think you're bundling in losers who would never be able to take care of themselves let alone a child and/or multiple children with decent men who enter a marriage union with integrity and end up getting fucked over hard by an unrelenting, unforgiving and completely imbalanced court system

So let's isolate the groups and talk about how many men with decent paying jobs, were actually married to the mother and are honest law abiding citizens are being financially destroyed to the point of poverty & homelessness vs how many in that same group are actually victimizing their exes

I mean Big.......you can say the same for men. Shouldnt they have chosen better partners. We could say that same thing to every man getting fucked over by some prick of a woman.

You know people lie and scam and fool people. You know this. No one gets together with anyone thinking "this shitty person is gonna make my life miserable I cant WAIT!" Or "yeah baby....I cant wait for our first family court session".

I think there are some who simply chose a scum bag of a woman and got completely used, played and taken to the cleaners. It does happen.

But still men will tell some of the most ghoulish lies regarding their own children as some avenue to get sympathy and admiration from whatever woman they are trying to scam.....or get respect and sympathy from other men.

I would say once the relationship is over the only victims are the kids. You got two adults who made the decisions that brought them to that place. It would be nice if we didnt even have court involvement in family matters.....and people just did what's best for their children. And it's very unfortunate that some men ARE trying to do the right thing and get fucked up in court. These courts see so many scammers and dead beats that sometimes decent men do get a raw deal. I'm not saying that never happens. But in regards to every family going through the courts.. I doubt it's a regular occurence. Perhaps my view is jaded.

A typical day in the FOC(friend of the court) doesnt see these kinds of honorable men, Big. They see men like the stupid shits I've picked. I remember my aunt going with me to my first FOC court date where custody and child support were to be decided. This man sat next to us in the lobby. Started chatting us up.

He was dressed like a total slob(and this is court ffs). He was talking about his ex dragging him there for "bullshit", and joked that "FOC" stood for "friend of the cunt". Legit sat there and said this shit to me(you know....the cunt) and my elderly Christian conservative aunt....who was holding my infant(who is about to 18 now).

Then I got called in and went to go before the judge. While I was in there, homeboy wrote his number on a sticky note and gave it to my aunt to give to me. It said "I thought you were really beautiful and would like to know you, so call me" He spelled "beautiful" wrong. He drew a smiley face.

So this guy showed up to court looking slobby. Sat next to me and slammed his ex for "dragging him" there for "bullshit"(likely nonpayment of child support), bitched about how the courts just help women "fuck over" men(yeah....I'm a woman sitting there) and called it "friend of the cunt". And then gave his number to my aunt to give to my cunty self after i was finished fucking over my ex. Sign me up for that! Amazing this woman let that gem slip through her fingers.

That's the regular calibur of man coming through the family court system lol. Its definitely not loaded up with men like you, Big. Your ex was a fucking retard. Most women I know who have gone through it wouldnt have a single shred of sympathy for her considering what most single moms have had to deal with. Women who have genuinely and completely fucked over a man who doesnt cheat, always comes home, works hard to provide, is reasonable and generous, and who puts his children as his top priority....just do not get sympathy from any of us who had to go rounds with a lying scamming loser who only cares about his dick and how he looks.

Once you see how these men lie and play victim.....its incredibly difficult to trust any man with stories like this where he really is the one getting screwed. It just is. Because all of them claim they are being "fucked over". They all have excuses. So it really dilutes the credibility. You know these men exist...but who knows which ones they are.

You wouldnt believe some of the hateful shit men who claim they were fucked over by the courts have said to and about single moms on boards for this topic. And the more these men post the more info gets dropped and you see what kind of selfish, shitty husbands they were. Completely entitled. I feel like if he has spent more time jerking off to porn and whining that his wife....who has destroyed her body birthing his children.....isnt as hot as she was 3 kids ago and how she expects him to invest his time and energy into the family he chose to have, how shes wore out and "bitchy"... then he does spending time with his own wife and family..... he is not the "good guy" he wants people to believe he is. He is just entitled. And will whine and play victim.

You may or may not realize this, but you are coming from the place and experience many single mothers are. It's a rough and sad place.
 
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It's part of the cultural marxist wave and critical theory..... it's an ideology that's been seeping in for a while now.
actions like that are pretty much programmed into a leftists DNA.
Mostly woke-ism
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On this board the libertarian and conservative men all have
Some of the men that whined the most about child support were moderate or conservative men. That's why I started this thread,

Whuuuudt? Politics on the Gen Discuss board? @Bastard Factory
 

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It's part of the cultural marxist wave and critical theory..... it's an ideology that's been seeping in for a while now.
actions like that are pretty much programmed into a leftists DNA.
Mostly woke-ism
Blm and their sea of supporters
On this board the libertarian and conservative men all have
Some of the men that whined the most about child support were moderate or conservative men. That's why I started this thread,

Whuuuudt? Politics on the Gen Discuss board? @Bastard Factory
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Hey, hey....Lily - I'm on ignore, dumbbell. You can't see my posts to react to them.

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.
 
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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.
You are all discussing political orientation. Let's see - who's whinier(?) Libmen, conservatives, libertarians, BLM. etc etc.

....You're all busted. Busted on the Gen Dis board.
 

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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
You must have been alive in the 50s. The 60s started the removal of the scrotum.
Now the worst, weakest person to be is a white man as the chi-coms and rushins watch..and wait.

I guess you liked the world when women had fewer choices in life, men dominated (and still do), and minorities were at the "back of the bus".

As for the Chinese and Russians, yes, they're waiting. I do believe that, but change is coming to them as well, though at a snail's pace. The Soviet Union seemed invincible, until is wasn't.

I would love a patriarchy if only men were the stoic, trustworthy defenders I believe God made them to be.

In that sort of order, women wouldnt have fewer choices. Just much less the need to make hard ones.

My high view of men causes me to be even more revolted by the simpy shitty ones.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.

Perhaps the discussion hit close to home.

It's because he cant address anything even slightly political without being snarky, insulting and bitter.
 
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I remember when men were stoic, strong, and had higher expectations of themselves. Those that couldn't meet those expectations often disappeared from their families, just walked away. Maybe it wasn't a good thing, but they didn't hang about whining, sniveling and feeling sorry for themselves if they had to provide support for their families.

Why is this happening and what can be done, if anything?
You must have been alive in the 50s. The 60s started the removal of the scrotum.
Now the worst, weakest person to be is a white man as the chi-coms and rushins watch..and wait.

I guess you liked the world when women had fewer choices in life, men dominated (and still do), and minorities were at the "back of the bus".

As for the Chinese and Russians, yes, they're waiting. I do believe that, but change is coming to them as well, though at a snail's pace. The Soviet Union seemed invincible, until is wasn't.

I would love a patriarchy if only men were the stoic, trustworthy defenders I believe God made them to be.

In that sort of order, women wouldnt have fewer choices. Just much less the need to make hard ones.

My high view of men causes me to be even more revolted by the simpy shitty ones.

You believe patriarchy is the natural order of things? I don't. Women are equally intellectually capable as men.
 

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Ffs.

It was context appropriate and it's not a political statement. Unless cultural marxism is now a political topic rather than a cultural one. It was a culture reference loosely "political"

But go ahead and pee in the middle of the discussion. BF will be along now to check your nappy.
You are all discussing political orientation. Let's see - who's whinier(?) Libmen, conservatives, libertarians, BLM. etc etc.

....You're all busted. Busted on the Gen Dis board.

Civilly discussing it, as well.

Good thing you showed up just in time to shit on it!